How does Mudiay project now that he's in Denver?

[coolhandsteve]

It's almost like he's been forgotten, people talking about these other prospects.

Also what the Nuggets gonna do with Lawson/Faried? I think that has an impact on Mudiay as well.

[NugzFan]

I assume year one will be rough. He's only 19. Gonna be a lot of mistakes and a lot of learning.

Lawson should be on the block.

[midatlantic09]

Until he gets a jumper, I project him as mediocre.

[NugzFan]

Until he gets a jumper, I project him as mediocre.


He's got a lot of time to develop one.

[hateraid]

Until he gets a jumper, I project him as mediocre.

That whole notion is a myth. He does have one. Mostly mid range. His 3-point is respectable. He's just such a good finisher he doesn't need to rely on his shot.
His stats were I believe 49%, 32% 3pt, 52% TS. He hit at least one 3 a game his whole time in China.
By NBA standards that's a shooter. It's better than Westbrook's numbers and he's considered a good shooter.

[Pointguard]

I think he's got a very good shot as rookie of the year. They run and play to his strengths.

[chips93]

That whole notion is a myth. He does have one. Mostly mid range. His 3-point is respectable. He's just such a good finisher he doesn't need to rely on his shot.
His stats were I believe 49%, 32% 3pt, 52% TS. He hit at least one 3 a game his whole time in China.
By NBA standards that's a shooter. It's better than Westbrook's numbers and he's considered a good shooter.

Westbrook forces some really tough looks, and still shoots decent percentages, that's why he's still considered a good shooter. Degree of difficulty matters.

I haven't seen any of his games l, just highlights, but that 52% from the line scares me

By all accounts he's a good pick and roll player, but there isn't much shooting around him in denver, or a great pick and roll partner.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

Time for Knicks to get in and get Lawson off Denver's hand.

They have cap space and can probably take back some salary from Denver as well.

[GOBB]

Mudiay is a streaky shooter right now but I wouldn't label him as someone who has no jumper. That would be MCW. And I like Mudiay upside, if he has a great work ethic he can improve upon his shooting to really become a floor spacer.

I want to see his athleticism in the NBA tho. He seemed slower in China than HS All American game. Wish Sixers had a way to land him. Oh well

[NugzFan]

Time for Knicks to get in and get Lawson off Denver's hand.

They have cap space and can probably take back some salary from Denver as well.


The Knicks have nothing to offer

[el gringos]

The Knicks have nothing to offer
Nor would they want Lawson. Nugs will be able to find a taker for Lawson, but they should've done it 2-3 years ago at a better value.


I think you are severely limiting mudiay' ceiling if you play him at the 2 w Lawson

[SwishSquared]

The Knicks have nothing to offerOn surface I agree, but I wouldn't mind packaging Lawson + another vet(s) (who's unlikely to be there long-term) to land Porzingis or something. Knicks just signed Derrick Williams and expect him to be contribute this year. I think you can strike a deal with them.

That whole notion is a myth. He does have one. Mostly mid range. His 3-point is respectable. He's just such a good finisher he doesn't need to rely on his shot.
His stats were I believe 49%, 32% 3pt, 52% TS. He hit at least one 3 a game his whole time in China.
By NBA standards that's a shooter. It's better than Westbrook's numbers and he's considered a good shooter.He took only like 38 threes in China, so that sample size is really small. He can shoot, like Gobb said, more in mid range, but his mechanics are somewhat inconsistent (from what I read/heard from those who watched his CBA games live). The fact he's shot in the low 60s or worse on FTs the past 3 years is kinda discouraging in projecting his jumpshot.

I think he'll be really good overall but it may take a couple years for his J to be consistent enough for defenses to not dare him to shoot it.

[midatlantic09]

He's got a lot of time to develop one.

That almost never happens...

If you're a PG who hasn't figured out how to shoot by now, chances are you'll never be a decent shooter. Mudiay's had over 5 years to figure out how to shoot so get ready for 38-39% shooting and many 5-14 nights.

[LA_Showtime]

He's got potential to be an all-star but playing in Denver isn't an ideal situation, simply because that locker room and franchise is a mess. If he gets the proper coaching, plays in the right system, and is surrounded by veterans who can show him the ropes, I think he's got a chance to be special... but given Denver's current situation I could see him being a bust.

[NugzFan]

Nor would they want Lawson. Nugs will be able to find a taker for Lawson, but they should've done it 2-3 years ago at a better value.


I think you are severely limiting mudiay' ceiling if you play him at the 2 w Lawson

At this point the Knicks would be happy to take Lawson but it may be in Denver's best interest to not trade him there.

And why would we have traded Lawson 2-3 years ago? There was no reason to at that time.

[NugzFan]

On surface I agree, but I wouldn't mind packaging Lawson + another vet(s) (who's unlikely to be there long-term) to land Porzingis or something. Knicks just signed Derrick Williams and expect him to be contribute this year. I think you can strike a deal with them.

The nuggets have to be careful to not help the Knicks out too much because we have their pick next year

I think there will be better deals to be made with other teams once the free agency madness is over the picture is more clear as to who needs a pg. maybe Dallas or Indiana?

[NugzFan]

That almost never happens...

If you're a PG who hasn't figured out how to shoot by now, chances are you'll never be a decent shooter. Mudiay's had over 5 years to figure out how to shoot so get ready for 38-39% shooting and many 5-14 nights.

He's 19. Not 29.

I expect sub 40% shooting as a rookie but it will rise as he gets older.

[NugzFan]

He's got potential to be an all-star but playing in Denver isn't an ideal situation, simply because that locker room and franchise is a mess. If he gets the proper coaching, plays in the right system, and is surrounded by veterans who can show him the ropes, I think he's got a chance to be special... but given Denver's current situation I could see him being a bust.

Once Lawson is traded, what's the problem?

Solid coach who gets a long with players. No "bad apples" in our locker room. Lots of veterans. Stable franchise/owner.

We don't know what our system will be since Malone is brand new but the environment is very conducive for mudiay to blossom. It'll be his team very soon.

[IGOTGAME]

Mudiay is a streaky shooter right now but I wouldn't label him as someone who has no jumper. That would be MCW. And I like Mudiay upside, if he has a great work ethic he can improve upon his shooting to really become a floor spacer.

I want to see his athleticism in the NBA tho. He seemed slower in China than HS All American game. Wish Sixers had a way to land him. Oh well

His form is broken...he is never gonna be a floor spacer unless he fixes it. Just not consistent

[longtime lurker]

He'll be a top 5 rookie next year. 4 player draft and the Nuggets get 1 of the top 4. Teams like the Knicks and Kings will regret passing on him.

[ralph_i_el]

If he's the athlete we've been told he is, he's going to wear some defenders out in that high altitude atmosphere. Denver teams are always best when they push the pace, and he's the guy to do it.

Just like with John Wall, it seems like Mudiay's development will depend on his shot developing

[NugzFan]

His form is broken...he is never gonna be a floor spacer unless he fixes it. Just not consistent

He's 19.

It can be fixed.

[GIF REACTION]

He's a decent talent but he's on a shit team. Would be smart to bolt as soon as he can from that dumpster.

[Blingster]

He's 19.

It can be fixed.

It's not a broken shot.

Does it need work? yes.

Will it get better? you bet!

[NugzFan]

He's a decent talent but he's on a shit team. Would be smart to bolt as soon as he can from that dumpster.


He should go to the Kings

Oh wait, he already refused.

Keep trolling. I know it masks the pain of being a Kings fan. :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

It's not a broken shot.

Does it need work? yes.

Will it get better? you bet!


:cheers:

[AirTupac]

This kid stunk it up in the CBA. Prepare for bust time.

[NugzFan]

This kid stunk it up in the CBA. Prepare for bust time.


What were his stats in the cba? How bad were they? I thought they were pretty decent iirc

[GOBB]

His form is broken...he is never gonna be a floor spacer unless he fixes it. Just not consistent

I thought he changed it?

[LA_Showtime]

Once Lawson is traded, what's the problem?

Solid coach who gets a long with players. No "bad apples" in our locker room. Lots of veterans. Stable franchise/owner.

We don't know what our system will be since Malone is brand new but the environment is very conducive for mudiay to blossom. It'll be his team very soon.

I was going off last season when the players openly revolted against Brian Shaw. That type of environment leads me to think it's not the best situation for a guy like Mudiay, who needs more than just time to develop properly.

[NugzFan]

I was going off last season when the players openly revolted against Brian Shaw. That type of environment leads me to think it's not the best situation for a guy like Mudiay, who needs more than just time to develop properly.


That was almost all due to shaw. And he's gone.

No problems left in our lockerroom once Lawson is traded.

[Fallen Angel]

I'm still waiting on the Ty Lawson trade to happen.

I'd assume Sacramento has thrown themselves out the race with trading their key assets to Philadelphia for a salary dumb as well as the signing of Rondo.

Rockets still have assets to trade, and with Llull deciding not to join Houston, you'd think we'd be gunning to better our PG depth.

But, I think if the Nuggets were smart... They'd wait a year to trade Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried to the New York Knicks and drain them of their remaining assets. Phil Jackson would look at the shooting and passing ability of Ty Lawson and say to himself, that's our PG and he's a trade away. Phil Jackson would look at the rebounding, motor, and defensive versatility of Kenneth Faried and say to himself, that's our Dennis Rodman and he's a trade away. The Nuggets would treat this opportunity like they had with shipping Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups to teh Knicks a couple years ago and they'd just be rolling in assets. Knicks fans are always in this win now mode, and would mask any future repercussions with instant success.

[NugzFan]

Sounds like we will wait for a good Lawson trade to arise. No need to rush it.

I could see Lawson to the Knicks at the deadline depending on how the teams are doing.