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3ball
07-04-2015, 07:22 PM
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Regular Season:

Tristan: 10.1 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 0.7 blk
Grant:.. 11.2 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.0 blk


Playoffs:

Tristan:. 9.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.2 blk
Grant:. 11.2 ppg,.. 8.6 rpg, 1.0 blk


Tristan with significantly more rebounds in playoffs... More blocks too...

Both players are simple play-finishers around the rim, so the scoring is wash...

It's razor-thin close... Either way, MJ 3-peats with Tristan the same way he did with Grant.
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ArbitraryWater
07-04-2015, 07:23 PM
you already did a version of this thread.. mods

LAZERUSS
07-04-2015, 07:25 PM
Grant BY FAR and away.

Thompson without Lebron...24-58 and 33-49.

Grant without MJ... 55-27 and then 60-22.

Next...

Uncle Drew
07-04-2015, 07:26 PM
Grant was an All-Star and an All-Defensive player. :biggums:

This guy is pathetic.

LAZERUSS
07-04-2015, 07:26 PM
BTW, when are you going to stop with these incessant "anti-Lebron" posts.

And please...quit bashing MJ's supporting casts, which were, BY FAR, the best in the league in the 90's (and against a watered-down NBA, too.)

LAZERUSS
07-04-2015, 07:27 PM
Grant was an All-Star and an All-Defensive. :biggums:

This guy is pathetic.

And Grant was proven winner...something that Thompson has proven so far, that he is clearly not.

G0ATbe
07-04-2015, 07:32 PM
Grant was an All-Star and an All-Defensive player. :biggums:

This guy is pathetic.
That just further goes to show how weak of an era the 90s were.

3ball
07-04-2015, 07:37 PM
Grant was an All-Star and an All-Defensive player. :biggums:

This guy is pathetic.
Thru 4 seasons (like Tristan this year), Horace was a nobody with zero accolades and worse stats..

Tristan's 10/8 career averages are better than Horace after 4 seasons - heck, they already match Horace's career 11/8 averages.

In his entire 17-year career, Horace was an all-star for 1 season (after he left the Bulls) and was a 2nd Team defender in 1993.. That's all he got in 17 seasons of work.. :oldlol:

livinglegend
07-04-2015, 07:52 PM
Thompson was Lebron's 2nd option and Grant was Jordan's 3rd option.




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warriorfan
07-04-2015, 08:04 PM
you already did a version of this thread.. mods

https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/you-cant-handle-the-truth.gif

3ball
07-04-2015, 08:25 PM
Thompson was Lebron's 2nd option and Grant was Jordan's 3rd option.




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Actually, Thompson was the 4th option - here are the playoff averages:

Smith: 13/5
Mosgov: 11/7/2
Thompson: 10/11


Btw, Mosgov averaged 14/8/2 in the Finals, on 50% FG.

This is FAR superior to Pippen's 15 ppg on 34% FG in 1996 Finals, or his 15 PPG on 41% in the 1998 Finals.

Bankaii
07-04-2015, 09:22 PM
Actually, Thompson was the 4th option - here are the playoff averages:

Smith: 13/5
Mosgov: 11/7/2
Thompson: 10/11


Btw, Mosgov averaged 14/8/2 in the Finals, on 50% FG.

This is FAR superior to Pippen's 15 ppg on 34% FG in 1996 Finals, or his 15 PPG on 41% in the 1998 Finals.
Lol dude how stupid are you. Mozgov is a center, 90 percent of his shots are dunks/layups. Pippen is a perimeter player. And why'd you so conveniently leave off JR shooting 31%? Or Pippen's 8 reb and 3 assists in 1996? Or his 7reb, 5ast, 2 steals? Or you know his defense, the best aspect of his game?

I'd tell you to stop posting bullshit but it's actually fun taking a shit on you.

KyrieTheFuture
07-04-2015, 09:28 PM
Is 3ball actually worse than the Kobe and LeBron fanboys?

SouBeachTalents
07-04-2015, 09:29 PM
LeBron went 2/6 yet OP is melting down worse than anybody else on the board. Dude's making literally multiple threads about LeBron a day. It's beyond rent free at this point, it's legitimately an uncontrollable obsession

livinglegend
07-04-2015, 09:44 PM
Actually, Thompson was the 4th option - here are the playoff averages:

Smith: 13/5
Mosgov: 11/7/2
Thompson: 10/11


Btw, Mosgov averaged 14/8/2 in the Finals, on 50% FG.

This is FAR superior to Pippen's 15 ppg on 34% FG in 1996 Finals, or his 15 PPG on 41% in the 1998 Finals.

Grant ( Jordan 3rd option) >>>>>>> Smith ( Lebron 2nd option)




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jlip
07-04-2015, 11:23 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357166

LAZERUSS
07-05-2015, 12:17 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357166

Damn...

:applause: :applause: :applause:

That should put to rest these "anti-Grant" topics.

Again, the man was the second best player on an MJ-less Bulls team that went 55-27 (and no doubt would have done better had both he and Pippen not missed 23 combined games)...and then helped take Shaq's 50-32 Magic to a 60-22 record the very next year...and then, as your post reiterates, was the best player in the the '95 ECSF's, when destroyed MJ's Bulls.

And once again, his IMPACT went beyond the pure numbers. Just take a look at both his regular season, and his post-season OTrg's with the Bulls from '91 thru '95, and then with the Magic after that.

WAY Better player than Bosh ever was.

diamenz
07-05-2015, 12:46 PM
Is 3ball actually worse than the Kobe and LeBron fanboys?

they're all bad. it just gets worse though as you go from jordan to kobe to lebron because of age.

LAZERUSS
07-05-2015, 01:29 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357166


The best player in the '95 ECSF's, without question.

Absolutely DOMINATED the Bulls.

Nash
07-05-2015, 01:46 PM
i don't get it, is OP trying to tell us how JR Smith is better 2nd option than Pippen?

LAZERUSS
07-05-2015, 01:52 PM
i don't get it, is OP trying to tell us how JR Smith is better 2nd option than Pippen?

Basically claiming that the cast of clowns that Lebron had in this year's Finals, in which he miraculously and single-handedly carried to two wins against a 67-15 Warrior team (and two losses in the closing seconds in two more) were better than the "rag-tag" group of losers that Mj had in the 90's. You know...the same "losers" who went 55-27 and nearly won a title withOUT him?

Of course, the same Cavs roster, with a healthy Kyrie, and Thompson...back-to-back records of 24-58 and 33-49..withOUT Lebron.

97 bulls
07-05-2015, 02:11 PM
Thompson may be on his way to being a Horace Grant type player, but hes no where near him yet.

Alos, take into consideration who Grant had to battle for those rebounds. As opposed to Thompson. Grant was going against Ewing, Olajuwan, Robinson, Webber, Barkley, Malone, Daughtery, Rodman, Mutombo, Oakley, Mourning. And im sure im missing a few

3ball
07-05-2015, 02:13 PM
How can you only focus on Pippen's 15 ppg on 34% FG in 1996 Finals, and ignore his 8 reb and 3 assists?


Pippen's 8 reb and 3 assists < Mosgov's 8 reb and 2 blocks.

Remember, Mosgov averaged 14/8/2... on 50%.... not 34%... He did this with a big man, rim-protecting defensive presence, which is > perimeter defender.

No question that Mosgov was a better 2nd option in 2015 Finals than Pippen was in 1996... 14/8/2 on 50% is better than 15/8/3 on 34%.. :confusedshrug:

3ball
07-05-2015, 02:23 PM
Horace had his career-best series in 1995 playoffs


That's all Horace did... His 18/11 playoffs series was his career-best in his long, 17-year career... Every player has a career-best.

For example, Tristan Thompson's career playoff averages are 10/11, which is already better than Grant's 11/9 career playoff average.

So Tristan will have a career-best series one day like all players do, and it will probably look pretty similar to Horace's career best.





Horace Grant was a WAY Better player than Bosh ever was.


If this is true, than you're saying a 1-time all-star in the 90's is better than a today's 10-time all-star.. That demonstrates the superiority of the 90's era.

Even though I agree that the 90's was the superior era, I still can't say a 1-time all-star and 11/8 career player from the 90's is better than today's 10-time all-star and 19/9 career player.

dankok8
07-05-2015, 02:49 PM
There is such a thing as defense... Grant >> Thompson.