The Future Of The Nba After TV Mega Deal Has Expired Looks Real Real Bad

[Bless Mathews]

People don't realize how the events that have happened over the past 30 years to get the association to where it is today and the money it will get with mega deal.

10 years from now, when mega deal is up, who is going to be the one, ones that make the league grow?

The past 30 years we had perfect events to make it grow exponentially every 10 years. Before magic and bird, the league wasn't doing that well, struggling.

We had polarizing players, players that were god like and even non hardcore fans knew who they were. And rivalries. Besides goat players, nothing brings in fans like that.

The players had a one in a lifetime feel to them. You were never gonna see a 6'9" point guard like magic ever. A white guy dominating a now black dominated sport. A true goat with the flair and funk on and off the court with his shoes and marketing. The most dominant big man ever. The two "next mj's".

They all hit it on the head and kept driving ratings and growth every year.


80's

Magic and bird came into the league at same time.

To historic rivals.

Rivalry of lakers vs celtics alone added to nationwide excitement. Everyone watched. Even regular season games. Bird and magic lived up to their hype, becoming top 10 all time players and renewed one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

Ratings thru the roof.

90's

Mj. Single handledly took the game to another level. His on the court funk, never seen before. Unmatched winning. Unmatched marketing. Took the league to another planet.

00's

Shaq and the two "next mj's"

Shaq came in with so much hype and lived up to it. Killed it. Dominated. Did things never before seen. Great personality. Good for marketing.

Kobe and bron. Came into the league out of high school. Soooooo much hype. Exceeded the hype. Won rangs. Kept driving ratings thru the roof.


So, in 10 years, when the TV mega deal is up, who and what is going to keep the league GROWING ?

With free agency and collusion , rivalries are out the window.

What players are POLARIZING and grab the attention of the non serious fan?

Anthony Davis in the next 5-10 years will be the best player in league. But he is dry as saltines. The first thing people say about him after his basketball skills is that he has one eyebrow.

Steph curry?

10 years from now, bron will be retired. Duncan done. Kobe will be hanging on playing 6 minutes a game for the raptors. (Haha)

Over the next 10 years , star players will be demanding easily 20-30 million a year. Starters 10/15 a year because of all the TV revenue.

Who is going to ELEVATE the game like the past 30 years? Above and beyond so that TV companies would want to drop even more billions after this deal is done.

I forecast some bad bad things when these huge huge contracts are still in place when this new deal ends and teams won't get that TV money to cover them.

Unless who, Joel Embid , Karl Anthony towns and the likes turn into personalities the public will like Along with record setting performances to drive even higher ratings?

Watch.

[Rose'sACL]

Davis is really talented and durant is more talented than prime kobe.
Only health can stop durant from being at least top 15 all time if not higher.

[christian1923]

Deangelo Russel

[theoneneo]

Davis is really talented and durant is more talented than prime kobe.
Only health can stop durant from being at least top 15 all time if not higher.

Except no :no: Durant is great, but what makes him more talented than Prime Kobe?

Prime Lebron maybe. But not Prime Kobe. Good try tho.

A Cavs Vs Okc finals matchup would be goat tho, like multiple finals matchups each trading victories and such.

[Foster5k]

League will be fine. NFL has more to worry about with concussions and such. Will people even care about the MLB in 10 years? The NBA is growing and will continue to attract the greatest athletes on the planet. Nothing to fear. :D

[Rose'sACL]

Except no :no: Durant is great, but what makes him more talented than Prime Kobe?

Prime Lebron maybe. But not Prime Kobe. Good try tho.

A Cavs Vs Okc finals matchup would be goat tho, like multiple finals matchups each trading victories and such.
Lebron and Durant have had better seasons than prime Kobe.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Is this dude really asking us to make predictions 10 years into the future about a multi billion dollar business?

[theoneneo]

Lebron and Durant have had better seasons than prime Kobe.

Lol eh, not really. Bron has benefited from playing in the weak east which inflates his stats. I'd give Durant's mvp season over Prime Kobe tho.

Lebron ain't up there with them Gods tho.

Under 30% from outside the paint lmao :roll:

It goes

Jordan


Kobe
Durant(has a good chance to over take Kobe with 4-5 rings)



















Lebron(playing in the weak east, teaming up with a former Fmvp winner and 3rd greatest sg of all time, along with a 20 & 10 big man to get rings) :no:

[Bless Mathews]

Lebron and Durant have had better seasons than prime Kobe.


It's not about having better seasons than whoever.


It's about marketability.


And living up to the hype that THE AVERAGE fan has ALREADY heard.

I did a poll the other day. Asked random sports fans this.

What sport does lebron James play for?

Everyone got that right.

What sport does Peyton manning play?

Everyone got that right.

What sport does steph curry play?

NO ONE got that right.

The reigning mvp, and just won finals. And of the 5 people I asked. NO ONE got it right.


That's what I mean.


That's what drives ratings, which therefore makes TV companies want to pay big money which allows players to get record contracts.

The league has to GROW like never before to make that money back.

Who gonna do it?

Who's gonna be the one, ones that make the average sports fan watch? Because they are the ones that ultimately determine how much money the league gets, the owners get and the players get. And if the TV companies and teams can't make profit, everyone is screwed.

[talkingconch]

It's not about having better seasons than whoever.


It's about marketability.


And living up to the hype that THE AVERAGE fan has ALREADY heard.

I did a poll the other day. Asked random sports fans this.

What sport does lebron James play for?

Everyone got that right.

What sport does Peyton manning play?

Everyone got that right.

What sport does steph curry play?

NO ONE got that right.

The reigning mvp, and just won finals. And of the 5 people I asked. NO ONE got it right.


That's what I mean.


That's what drives ratings, which therefore makes TV companies want to pay big money which allows players to get record contracts.

The league has to GROW like never before to make that money back.

Who gonna do it?

Who's gonna be the one, ones that make the average sports fan watch? Because they are the ones that ultimately determine how much money the league gets, the owners get and the players get. And if the TV companies and teams can't make profit, everyone is screwed.

guys like durant are marketable and i see davis and curry also will become household names

[theoneneo]

It's pretty simple OP. The league will build a New Star. Wiggins, Parker, Russel, Embiid, Davis, etc someone will be thrust-ed into super stardom.

[Fallen Angel]

OP is retarded.

[FLDFSU]

:wtf: did I just read?

[FreezingTsmoove]

OP stfu. There is already a bigger stronger Lebron coming into the L next year. Ben Simmons from LSU. Also I am pretty sure Wiggins can become the next FroBe. He has a strong work ethic and has an exciting team built around him

DeAngelo only needs to become a Top 16 PG and he will get amazing hype built around him

Jabari Parker has a great defensive team built next to him

76ers have great bigs

Trust me the future is bright

[Bless Mathews]

It's pretty simple OP. The league will build a New Star. Wiggins, Parker, Russel, Embiid, Davis, etc someone will be thrust-ed into super stardom.


Yea I know.

But enough to be household names and stories behind it like bird and magic , Jordan, Shaq Kobe and bron?

And as a business, the league has to GROW just to maintain those numbers. And grow exponentially to get more after this deal.

I just don't see it in PROPORTIONED to how much money TV companies, teams have to make to cover what they are going to pay players the next 10 years.

[Bless Mathews]

:wtf: did I just read?


Truth hittin you over the head.

[KyrieTheFuture]

How about growing overseas? That doesn't count? Just cause you're friends with a bunch of retards doesn't mean ball is on the decline. This finals was the highest ratings since Jordan

[Bless Mathews]

How about growing overseas? That doesn't count? Just cause you're friends with a bunch of retards doesn't mean ball is on the decline. This finals was the highest ratings since Jordan
It's not on decline.

It has to grow though to cover all the money.

Period.

We got lucky the past 30 years.

Sure fire players/teams that made NBA grow exponentially.

Always someone to pass the torch.


Bird and magic to Jordan. Jordan to Kobe Shaq and bron.

For the AMOUNT OF MONEY advertisers, TV companies and teams WILL HAVE TO MAKE to cover all the HUUUGGGEEEE contracts coming, to be PROFITABLE, the ratings have to be TRIPLE the best ever.

:facepalm

In 10 years what Kobe, bron, bird magic Shaq will carry the league to NEW HEIGHTS.

ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS WERE HOUSEHOLD NAMES BEFORE THEY PLAYED A GAME IN THE NBA.

Maybe not Jordan, but he became goat.

The amount of money the league has to make to grow depends on triple TV ratings.

Just wait. It's gonna get bad.

[Nash]

the game will be fine and better.
Honestly, the NBA completely dominates the future which is social media which is very important and something that has given the game an even broader fanbase and an edge towards other sports.

also like it or not but the lebron free agency of 2010 brought a lot hype to the league. after that summer everybody started talking bball.

[FLDFSU]

Truth hittin you over the head.

Because I don't poll five of my friends and use the results as a basis of predicting what will happen to/in a league as complex as the NBA in ten years...

You could be right (I doubt it) but you could very well be right.

However, your premise rest on the reasoning skills of a hamster.

[KyrieTheFuture]

It's not on decline.

It has to grow though to cover all the money.

Period.

We got lucky the past 30 years.

Sure fire players/teams that made NBA grow exponentially.

Always someone to pass the torch.


Bird and magic to Jordan. Jordan to Kobe Shaq and bron.

For the AMOUNT OF MONEY advertisers, TV companies and teams WILL HAVE TO MAKE to cover all the HUUUGGGEEEE contracts coming, to be PROFITABLE, the ratings have to be TRIPLE the best ever.

:facepalm

In 10 years what Kobe, bron, bird magic Shaq will carry the league to NEW HEIGHTS.

ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS WERE HOUSEHOLD NAMES BEFORE THEY PLAYED A GAME IN THE NBA.

Maybe not Jordan, but he became goat.

The amount of money the league has to make to grow depends on triple TV ratings.

Just wait. It's gonna get bad.
I thought this whole thread was dumb, but this takes the ****ing cake and the brownies.

[FLDFSU]

And beyond that, how could you possibly say that Durant/Westbrook do not form the greatest duo in NBA history? Or that Leonard/Aldridge do not go on to win multiple championships? Or that Harden/Dwight do not go on to battle Curry/Thompson for years to come generating publicity and the next great NBA rivalry?

How do you know that Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis don't battle for the next 7 years over NBA MVPs? Or that Atlanta and the Heat and the Cavs and the Celtics and the Bulls bring about exciting and competitive Eastern conference playoff basketball?

Since we are predicting ten years down the line, how do we know that Philly, NYC, and LAL won't draft franchise players and compete in trans-national Finals?

[Bless Mathews]

I thought this whole thread was dumb, but this takes the ****ing cake and the brownies.


What are you 19 bruh?


Magic and bird played in a SUPER HYPED national championship game.


Shaq was everywhere. On Roy Firestone show. National televised games at lsu. To see this freak of nature.

Kobe and bron were super super super hyped high school players boaf gonna be the next Jordan.

Everyone knew who they were before they played a game.

Jordan hit game winning shot in championship game.


Are you serious? Are you that dumb? Or that young? ALL OF THEM WERE HOUSEHOULD NAMES BEFORE THEY EVEN PLAYED ONE GAME IN THE LEAGUE.

:facepalm :facepalm

[Bless Mathews]

And beyond that, how could you possibly say that Durant/Westbrook do not form the greatest duo in NBA history? Or that Leonard/Aldridge do not go on to win multiple championships? Or that Harden/Dwight do not go on to battle Curry/Thompson for years to come generating publicity and the next great NBA rivalry?

How do you know that Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis don't battle for the next 7 years over NBA MVPs? Or that Atlanta and the Heat and the Cavs and the Celtics and the Bulls bring about exciting and competitive Eastern conference playoff basketball?

Since we are predicting ten years down the line, how do we know that Philly, NYC, and LAL won't draft franchise players and compete in trans-national Finals?

Aight. I guess yall are just missing it completely.

You need MORE THAN JUST GOOD BASKETBALL to get where the NBA has gotten.

You need polarizing, marketable, once a generation type players.

And THREE TIMES MORE TO COVER WHAT EVERYONE IS SPENDING TO JUST GET THEIR MONEY BACK.

yea. It'd be just fine if this record TV deal , three times the previous one wasn't in place.

It has to make A LOT OF MONEY. A LOT AND LOT OF MONEY.


Smh.

[KyrieTheFuture]

What are you 19 bruh?


Magic and bird played in a SUPER HYPED national championship game.


Shaq was everywhere. On Roy Firestone show. National televised games at lsu. To see this freak of nature.

Kobe and bron were super super super hyped high school players boaf gonna be the next Jordan.

Everyone knew who they were before they played a game.

Jordan hit game winning shot in championship game.


Are you serious? Are you that dumb? Or that young? ALL OF THEM WERE HOUSEHOULD NAMES BEFORE THEY EVEN PLAYED ONE GAME IN THE LEAGUE.

:facepalm :facepalm
FOR BASKETBALL FANS. If you didn't watch basketball, you did not know them. You act like things are any different now vs then. If you don't give a **** about ball you don't give a **** whether it was 1970-2020

[Bless Mathews]

FOR BASKETBALL FANS. If you didn't watch basketball, you did not know them. You act like things are any different now vs then. If you don't give a **** about ball you don't give a **** whether it was 1970-2020


:facepalm

THE AVERAGE SPORTS FAN DEFINITELY KNEW WHO THEY WERE.


Not just hoop fans. HOUSEHOULD names bruh. Before even playing one game.


Major TV news stations doing pieces on bron and Kobe when they were in high school.

After reporting about a mass killing or whatever, "and next the story of a 17 year old from Akron Ohio trying to be the next Jordan "


THATS FUCCIN HOUSEHOULD shit

:facepalm

[KyrieTheFuture]

Alright bro I'm glad you think you're smarter than every major broadcaster's finance department

[sportsfan76]

I don't think I will be watching the NBA in 10 years because all or most of these players will be gone

Lebron
Kobe
CP3
Curry
DRose
Durant
Westbrook
Harden
Tony parker

[MrC1991]

:facepalm

THE AVERAGE SPORTS FAN DEFINITELY KNEW WHO THEY WERE.


Not just hoop fans. HOUSEHOULD names bruh. Before even playing one game.


Major TV news stations doing pieces on bron and Kobe when they were in high school.

After reporting about a mass killing or whatever, "and next the story of a 17 year old from Akron Ohio trying to be the next Jordan " :facepalm

I see the point you're trying to make and you could be correct (I don't think you will be) but you could be, but if you haven't noticed every generation has had a player or two that completely captures the NBA and to less of a extent the world by storm. History repeats itself and the NBA is no different
some player wether its Durant, Davis, Curry, Griffin, Harden or some kid sitting on a college roster now (Just a hypothetical btw) comes into the game and garners the attention and media alot of greats from the past generations did. Someone is going to stake their claim for best of this generation and arguably into the top 10 of all time lists. Even if talent is at a all time low someone is going to be considered head and shoulders above the rest of the best of that generation. So don't worry the NBA will be fine as long as the NBA hell even basketball in general can keep pulling young people to play the game and practice their craft the naturally talented or gifted in the game will find a way to show how good they really are. Full disclaimer its the 4th I'm pretty drunk and this is a little long winded feel free to argue what you dont agree with.

[CarlosBoozer]

We just had the most talented draft in recent years,I'm pretty sure there will be tons of fresh faces, superstars and a new age of the NBA to rise soon!

[Bosnian Sajo]

Stop it :oldlol:

Maybe your old ass wont be watching it anymore, but the next generation will be. And the one after that. And the one after that....and after that.

And you asked who will carry the league? Dude, there are new players being brought up every single day, are you kidding me? This is sports, there is a never ending wave of talent hitting the league every year. Who tf was Anthony Davis 10 years ago? Who was D'angelo Russell just 4 years ago, did anyone even hear any hype about him coming out of highschool? There will always be a successor, don't you worry, hunny.

This isn't any ordinary business, atm it is fail proof. The league won't be dying down anytime soon, it will just continue to grow. Before, it was much harder for people around the world to watch the league, but now that the whole ****ing world is connected via technology and internet, the audience is bigger than EVER before and will continue to keep growing.

For instance, my father who grew up and lived for 30 years in Bosnia used to tell me how they would rarely ever get NBA games on tv and he would only be able to watch highlights, it wasn't until he came to America that he was able to fully start following the league. Now? Most sports channels show the main games, and if you have international league pass, you can watch it all.

Baseball - mostly American audience
Football - American audience, no one else really watched football
Basketball - global audience, on another level. Best league in the world BY FAR is the American league

Dumb OP, you didn't really think this one through.

[Bless Mathews]

I see the point you're trying to make and you could be correct (I don't think you will be) but you could be, but if you haven't noticed every generation has had a player or two that completely captures the NBA and to less of a extent the world by storm. History repeats itself and the NBA is no different
some player wether its Durant, Davis, Curry, Griffin, Harden or some kid sitting on a college roster now (Just a hypothetical btw) comes into the game and garners the attention and media alot of greats from the past generations did. Someone is going to stake their claim for best of this generation and arguably into the top 10 of all time lists. Even if talent is at a all time low someone is going to be considered head and shoulders above the rest of the best of that generation. So don't worry the NBA will be fine as long as the NBA hell even basketball in general can keep pulling young people to play the game and practice their craft the naturally talented or gifted in the game will find a way to show how good they really are. Full disclaimer its the 4th I'm pretty drunk and this is a little long winded feel free to argue what you dont agree with.

Arghhhh.

Looking at it through the eyes of this current money.

To make it financially, the NBA NEEDS another generation of bird magic Shaq Kobe bron type players. Players that were POLARIZING on and OFF the court.

Hyped up from BEFORE day one. A running start into the league.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Arghhhh.

Looking at it through the eyes of this current money.

To make it financially, the NBA NEEDS another generation of bird magic Shaq Kobe bron type players. Players that were POLARIZING on and OFF the court.

Hyped up from BEFORE day one. A running start into the league.

Bro, you are so misguided that I genuinely feel bad. To make it financially? You make it seem like the NBA is living check by check, as if they are just barely making a profit....hello, the CLIPPERS (Joke of the league for as long as they were in it) were sold last season for TWO BILLION, what in the world makes you think they are worried about making it financially? The NBA needs no one, the basketball players NEED the NBA.


Wake up man.

[Bosnian Sajo]

In 10 years what Kobe, bron, bird magic Shaq will carry the league to NEW HEIGHTS.

ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS WERE HOUSEHOLD NAMES BEFORE THEY PLAYED A GAME IN THE NBA.



No they weren't, Kobe was the 13th pick ffs. Maybe you knew the name, but others didn't, because the NBA made Kobe, not the other way around. You could be the BEST ****ing player in the world, but if you're playing in Qatar or England, no one will give a shit or even know for that matter. If you're playing in the NBA, it is a different story.

[Bless Mathews]

Stop it :oldlol:

Maybe your old ass wont be watching it anymore, but the next generation will be. And the one after that. And the one after that....and after that.

And you asked who will carry the league? Dude, there are new players being brought up every single day, are you kidding me? This is sports, there is a never ending wave of talent hitting the league every year. Who tf was Anthony Davis 10 years ago? Who was D'angelo Russell just 4 years ago, did anyone even hear any hype about him coming out of highschool? There will always be a successor, don't you worry, hunny.

This isn't any ordinary business, atm it is fail proof. The league won't be dying down anytime soon, it will just continue to grow. Before, it was much harder for people around the world to watch the league, but now that the whole ****ing world is connected via technology and internet, the audience is bigger than EVER before and will continue to keep growing.

For instance, my father who grew up and lived for 30 years in Bosnia used to tell me how they would rarely ever get NBA games on tv and he would only be able to watch highlights, it wasn't until he came to America that he was able to fully start following the league. Now? Most sports channels show the main games, and if you have international league pass, you can watch it all.

Baseball - mostly American audience
Football - American audience, no one else really watched football
Basketball - global audience, on another level. Best league in the world BY FAR is the American league

Dumb OP, you didn't really think this one through.


Three times bruh. It's gotta grow three times to make the money up.

All this money players are gonna make, in 10 years will advertisers and TV companies pay 3 times more AGAIN with a league with no SURE SHOT must see players like bron and Kobe???

Stop looking at it through the eyes of a knowledgable hoop fan and the eyes of a normal sports fan.

A biness man.

[Bless Mathews]

Bro, you are so misguided that I genuinely feel bad. To make it financially? You make it seem like the NBA is living check by check, as if they are just barely making a profit....hello, the CLIPPERS (Joke of the league for as long as they were in it) were sold last season for TWO BILLION, what in the world makes you think they are worried about making it financially? The NBA needs no one, the basketball players NEED the NBA.


Wake up man.

Dumbest poast of the year.

The players make the league.

Did you miss he op?

Do you not realize before magic and bird the NBA wasn't shit? In a slump. Struggling financially.

Bird and magic , PLAYERS took it to another level In The 80's. The whole bird vs magic "choose your weapon" MARKETING campaign stormed the country.

Jordan , A PLAYER took to even greater heights. Marketing unmatched. Wtf are you even typing about?

Shaq bron Kobe continued to ad and grow the league.

Are people rocking Spurs jerseys or bron and Kobe jerseys historically?

GTFO fucc tard.

Magic and bird in the 80's. Jordan in the 90's. Shaq Kobe and bron in 00's made the league what it is today.

If you don't think that, you're a complete idiot.

[bdreason]

Worse case scenario the league has to contract a few times.

[tmacattack33]

People don't realize how the events that have happened over the past 30 years to get the association to where it is today and the money it will get with mega deal.

10 years from now, when mega deal is up, who is going to be the one, ones that make the league grow?

The past 30 years we had perfect events to make it grow exponentially every 10 years. Before magic and bird, the league wasn't doing that well, struggling.

We had polarizing players, players that were god like and even non hardcore fans knew who they were. And rivalries. Besides goat players, nothing brings in fans like that.

The players had a one in a lifetime feel to them. You were never gonna see a 6'9" point guard like magic ever. A white guy dominating a now black dominated sport. A true goat with the flair and funk on and off the court with his shoes and marketing. The most dominant big man ever. The two "next mj's".

They all hit it on the head and kept driving ratings and growth every year.


80's

Magic and bird came into the league at same time.

To historic rivals.

Rivalry of lakers vs celtics alone added to nationwide excitement. Everyone watched. Even regular season games. Bird and magic lived up to their hype, becoming top 10 all time players and renewed one of the best rivalries in all of sports.

Ratings thru the roof.

90's

Mj. Single handledly took the game to another level. His on the court funk, never seen before. Unmatched winning. Unmatched marketing. Took the league to another planet.

00's

Shaq and the two "next mj's"

Shaq came in with so much hype and lived up to it. Killed it. Dominated. Did things never before seen. Great personality. Good for marketing.

Kobe and bron. Came into the league out of high school. Soooooo much hype. Exceeded the hype. Won rangs. Kept driving ratings thru the roof.


So, in 10 years, when the TV mega deal is up, who and what is going to keep the league GROWING ?

With free agency and collusion , rivalries are out the window.

What players are POLARIZING and grab the attention of the non serious fan?

Anthony Davis in the next 5-10 years will be the best player in league. But he is dry as saltines. The first thing people say about him after his basketball skills is that he has one eyebrow.

Steph curry?

10 years from now, bron will be retired. Duncan done. Kobe will be hanging on playing 6 minutes a game for the raptors. (Haha)

Over the next 10 years , star players will be demanding easily 20-30 million a year. Starters 10/15 a year because of all the TV revenue.

Who is going to ELEVATE the game like the past 30 years? Above and beyond so that TV companies would want to drop even more billions after this deal is done.

I forecast some bad bad things when these huge huge contracts are still in place when this new deal ends and teams won't get that TV money to cover them.

Unless who, Joel Embid , Karl Anthony towns and the likes turn into personalities the public will like Along with record setting performances to drive even higher ratings?

Watch.

Wut.

Obviously, it is hard to see who will end up becoming a mega star and why. We can't see the future.

You could have said the same in 1998 when MJ left. You didn't know back then that people like Iverson would become so popular and become a hero for the inner city kids...and that Kobe would get so good...and that Vince Carter would come and become the best dunker ever and gain sucha huge following, and that in 2002 ESPN would start nationally televising high school games of some kid named L. James...etc.

[knicksman]

It seems the league had higher ratings ever since silver letting the better team wins than sterns superstars league

[Rose'sACL]

Lol eh, not really. Bron has benefited from playing in the weak east which inflates his stats. I'd give Durant's mvp season over Prime Kobe tho.

Lebron ain't up there with them Gods tho.

Under 30% from outside the paint lmao :roll:

It goes

Jordan


Kobe
Durant(has a good chance to over take Kobe with 4-5 rings)



Lebron(playing in the weak east, teaming up with a former Fmvp winner and 3rd greatest sg of all time, along with a 20 & 10 big man to get rings) :no:
how can lebron's stats be benefitted from playing in the east?
Other than 2014-15, East has had better defensive teams throughout lebron's career.

[Bless Mathews]

Wut.

Obviously, it is hard to see who will end up becoming a mega star and why. We can't see the future.

You could have said the same in 1998 when MJ left. You didn't know back then that people like Iverson would become so popular and become a hero for the inner city kids...and that Kobe would get so good...and that Vince Carter would come and become the best dunker ever and gain sucha huge following, and that in 2002 ESPN would start nationally televising high school games of some kid named L. James...etc.


But they did.

And Kobe was SUPER hyped.

I woulda bet money back then he'd be a super star.

Same with ai and carter And bron.

You just KNEW they were special.

Who is that now?

The league has built itself a huge hole.

As a business, you need to grow. And TV just paid 3 times more than the last deal. That's a lot of money. After this deal, who is gonna make the TV companies pay MORE? I just don't see how in 10 years there will be MORE HOUSEHOULD names like the past 30 years.

[Rose'sACL]

But they did.

And Kobe was SUPER hyped.

I woulda bet money back then he'd be a super star.

Same with ai and carter And bron.

You just KNEW they were special.

Who is that now?

The league has built itself a huge hole.

As a business, you need to grow. I just don't see how in 10 years there will be MORE HOUSEHOULD names like the past 30 years.
The only thing that could stop Davis and durant from becoming all time greats is injuries.

[sportsfan76]

The only thing that could stop Davis and durant from becoming all time greats is injuries.


I am going to hold off calling Davis a superstar until he wins a playoff series

[bluechox2]

another recession will blow up the nba due to these max contracts being ridiculously high... for a guy averaging 8 points to make 13-14 million is ludicrous
all the small markets will get contracted out of the league and bought out

[Bless Mathews]

another recession will blow up the nba due to these max contracts being ridiculously high... for a guy averaging 8 points to make 13-14 million is ludicrous
all the small markets will get contracted out of the league and bought out


That's what I'm typing. Sharing will help, but in 10 years when a new TV deal is up, is tnt and abc gonna pay billions for .....???????

[Bless Mathews]

The only thing that could stop Davis and durant from becoming all time greats is injuries.


No shit.


You just don't get it.

Marketability. Davis is dryer than saltine crackers.


He shave his eyebrow and he can pitch Gillette razors???

That's what NBA needs to keep this train going.

Market to the masses , to be a HOUSEHOULD nAme that a 15 year old from Des Moines Iowa would recognize.

That's why NBA got all the loot it got. 30 years of greats on AND off the court

[Shih508]

OP is dumb just like all Kobe stans.

[GIF REACTION]

Bless is a ****ing imbecile

Stick to selling weed. It's all you really know anyways.

[Bless Mathews]

Bless is a ****ing imbecile

Stick to selling weed. It's all you really know anyways.


Haha.

Yea

I know biness.

It's like investing in a 20 light black market grow. The future is shaky. And you have to kill it to make money. 10 years from now? Shit.


Just wait skippy.

When TV doesn't get the ratings because the general public doesn't want to watch "good basketball" and scrubs are getting paid 10-15 mill a year , and all stars getting 25-30 million a year , then new TV contract comes up and they offer half, just wait what happens.

[Bless Mathews]

Bless is a ****ing imbecile

Stick to selling weed. It's all you really know anyways.


Haha.

Yea

I know biness.

It's like investing in a 20 light black market grow. The future is shaky. And you have to kill it to make money. 10 years from now? Shit.


Just wait skippy.

When TV doesn't get the ratings because the general public doesn't want to watch "good basketball" and scrubs are getting paid 10-15 mill a year , and all stars getting 25-30 million a year , then new TV contract comes up and they offer half, just wait what happens.

[aj1987]

Lol eh, not really. Bron has benefited from playing in the weak east which inflates his stats. I'd give Durant's mvp season over Prime Kobe tho.

Lebron ain't up there with them Gods tho.

Under 30% from outside the paint lmao :roll:

It goes

Jordan


Kobe
Durant(has a good chance to over take Kobe with 4-5 rings)


Lebron(playing in the weak east, teaming up with a former Fmvp winner and 3rd greatest sg of all time, along with a 20 & 10 big man to get rings) :no:
http://i.imgur.com/jcQwxbK.png

Kobe played with 3 different MVP's, a top 5 GOAT, multiple DPOY's, etc.. I don't see you crying about that.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Bles is a good dude. Nothing wrong with selling drugs. Supply and demand, bitches. Do your thing, bless.

[knicksman]

Actually the league is goin downhill during sterns era. Because he tries to rig it in favor of superstars. He wanted to create another jordan so he rigs lots of series in favor of kobe. Then it was brans turn. But it was not a recipe for success thats why we have 2 lockouts. Nfl and soccer were successful because of beautiful teamplay yet idiot stern wants superstars go 1 on 5 by giving them fts. Now that silver took over and let the best team won(spurs), its not A surprise that we just had 1 of the best rated finals ever. NbA is back.

[Bless Mathews]

Bles is a good dude. Nothing wrong with selling drugs. Supply and demand, bitches. Do your thing, bless.


Gyea

Tier 3in it.

Supply and demand. Exactly.

Right now supply of superstOars are good. Polarizing, houshould names superstOars.

Demand up. Big money being thrown around.

From train that started with bird and magic.

The league will have to grow 3 times in 10 years to be profitable for all pOarties involved.

Is that gonna happen?

I don't think so.

[Bless Mathews]

Actually the league is goin downhill during sterns era. Because he tries to rig it in favor of superstars. He wanted to create another jordan so he rigs lots of series in favor of kobe. Then it was brans turn. But it was not a recipe for success thats why we have 2 lockouts. Nfl and soccer were successful because of beautiful teamplay yet idiot stern wants superstars go 1 on 5 by giving them fts. Now that silver took over and let the best team won(spurs), its not A surprise that we just had 1 of the best rated finals ever. NbA is back.


That is FUCCIN hilarious.


Stern became commissioner in 84.

The amount of growth the NBA grew during his realm is staggering.

You can't be serious.

[Bless Mathews]

OP is dumb just like all Kobe stans.


I can't stand Kobe.

Even though he's the second best white player ever.

[knicksman]

That is FUCCIN hilarious.


Stern became commissioner in 84.

The amount of growth the NBA grew during his realm is staggering.

You can't be serious.

Nba is already on the rise even before stern. And he lucked out with jordan being charismatic thats why his strategy of superstars league works at the beginning. If it was bran/kobe, he wouldve been exposed a long time ago. Nobody wants to see streetball bro or else people would prefer nba over nfl or soccer.

[J Shuttlesworth]

That is FUCCIN hilarious.


Stern became commissioner in 84.

The amount of growth the NBA grew during his realm is staggering.

You can't be serious.
lol Bless, you're too smart to be having a conversation with knicksman. It's like trying to sell half eights. Too much effort with little profit.

[Bobcats2013]

Curry has no personality and he just drew the biggest ratings NBA has had since Jordan.

[Fallen Angel]

This thread is four pages of full retard being displayed from OP

[RidonKs]

the longer you watch the same shit, the more stale it gets.

but after sitting through game after game watching the careers of wilt, russ, kaj, magic, bird, jordan, shaq, james, et al

you're worried a transformational player won't get drafted? when more people are playing basketball in the united states than ever before? with the sport at an all time high in popularity?

the money will create different issues. matters of media presentation and journalism around it; basketball player lifestyles; pricing will invariably change given monopoly; etc etc

but the game? not to worry. anthony davis. steph curry. kawai leonard. these are three incredibly unique players. more are on the way.

i disagree with adam silver on probably most everything he believes with regard to the way he runs the league.

but with regard to running the game, rule changes, understanding fans, all the little tweaks to fouls and defensive rules and the rest? ensuring we get the best bang for our buck, whatever that actually costs? i trust adam silver.

the game is in fabulous hands. you're blowing the tv deals out of proportion.

[Doranku]

lol Bless, you're too smart to be having a conversation with knicksman. It's like trying to sell half eights. Too much effort with little profit.
:oldlol:

[ralph_i_el]

Haha.

Yea

I know biness.

It's like investing in a 20 light black market grow. The future is shaky. And you have to kill it to make money. 10 years from now? Shit.


Just wait skippy.

When TV doesn't get the ratings because the general public doesn't want to watch "good basketball" and scrubs are getting paid 10-15 mill a year , and all stars getting 25-30 million a year , then new TV contract comes up and they offer half, just wait what happens.

So your hypothesis is that after this NINE YEAR TV DEAL runs out the league won't have any marketable stars?

In nine years all the star players will be completely different.

The only guy who is a star NOW and could still be in NINE YEARS in Anthony Davis. Everyone else is a rookie or not even in the league yet. So really you're just talking out your ass. In nine years Dwade and LeBron's kids might be colluding to go star for the Havana Sharks.

edit: This 9 year deal doesn't start until 2016-17, which means you think the league will have no marketable stars around the 2024-25 season. If you can make a halfway accurate prediction of that, haul your ass to wall street.

[Bless Mathews]

Curry has no personality and he just drew the biggest ratings NBA has had since Jordan.


Once again.


Was it three times better ????

My goodness yall don't understand biness.

[chips93]

Is this dude really asking us to make predictions 10 years into the future about a multi billion dollar business?

he is also implying that he is better at evaluating the value of the nba's tv rights, than the tv corporations who make billions by correctly valuing assets like the nba's tv rights.

[niko]

In 9 years the streaming rights will be worth marketedly more and the tv rights will still be worth a lot. Topic doesn't really make sense.

[ralph_i_el]

It's not on decline.

It has to grow though to cover all the money.

Period.

We got lucky the past 30 years.

Sure fire players/teams that made NBA grow exponentially.

Always someone to pass the torch.


Bird and magic to Jordan. Jordan to Kobe Shaq and bron.

For the AMOUNT OF MONEY advertisers, TV companies and teams WILL HAVE TO MAKE to cover all the HUUUGGGEEEE contracts coming, to be PROFITABLE, the ratings have to be TRIPLE the best ever.

:facepalm

In 10 years what Kobe, bron, bird magic Shaq will carry the league to NEW HEIGHTS.

ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS WERE HOUSEHOLD NAMES BEFORE THEY PLAYED A GAME IN THE NBA.

Maybe not Jordan, but he became goat.

The amount of money the league has to make to grow depends on triple TV ratings.

Just wait. It's gonna get bad.

:facepalm you're joking right? This is insanity.

[triangleoffense]

Lebron is a garbage celebrity.. Jordan was GODLIKE in his time.. Lebron is still the butt end of jokes

[Bless Mathews]

Lebron is a garbage celebrity.. Jordan was GODLIKE in his time.. Lebron is still the butt end of jokes


But everyone tunes in to watch him.


There was a thread on how much higher ratings of cavs games were higher than the rest.

[Bless Mathews]

:facepalm you're joking right? This is insanity.


I type the truth son.

What sure shot HOUSEHOULD name will be there to carry the league.

Ten years ago we knew.

Ten years before that we knew.

Ten years before that we knew.

10 years from now????

[Bless Mathews]

In 9 years the streaming rights will be worth marketedly more and the tv rights will still be worth a lot. Topic doesn't really make sense.


Hahahhahahahahahha.


Ok.

[niko]

Hahahhahahahahahha.


Ok.
It's absolutely 100% true. By your logic, football is going to die too. We don't know the stars at that time.

This thread is stupid. Are you in prison or something and this is your pc time?

[sportsfan76]

It's absolutely 100% true. By your logic, football is going to die too. We don't know the stars at that time.

This thread is stupid. Are you in prison or something and this is your pc time?


You know damm well you can;t compare the NFL to the NBA

Football will always be popular

[Bless Mathews]

You know damm well you can;t compare the NFL to the NBA

Football will always be popular


Word.

Football is more of a team sport.

Niggahs wear helmets. On the bench half the time.

Basketball needs superstOars to carry the league. Why THE AVERAGE fan tunes in.

Football is FAR MORE exciting to the average sports fan because it just is.

People like violence. People like gladiators. People like watching men try to kill each other. It's deep rooted bruh.

3 times bruh. The TV companies just paid 3 times as much. Players salaries are going to SKY ROCKET. After this deal, the players will want the same , but without growth, three times the growth , as a business, why would you pay MORE for a product that is lacking in what the people want to see- bonafied superstOars that 14 year old girls from Des Moines Iowa could recognize.

Three time g. Do the maf what a company gotta to do to keep wanting to invest MORE money and keep growin.

[sportsfan76]

Word.

Football is more of a team sport.

Niggahs wear helmets. On the bench half the time.

Basketball needs superstOars to carry the league. Why THE AVERAGE fan tunes in.

Football is FAR MORE exciting to the average sports fan because it just is.

People like violence. People like gladiators. People like watching men try to kill each other. It's deep rooted bruh.

3 times bruh. The TV companies just paid 3 times as much. Players salaries are going to SKY ROCKET. After this deal, the players will want the same , but without growth, three times the growth , as a business, why would you pay MORE for a product that is lacking in what the people want to see- bonafied superstOars that 14 year old girls from Des Moines Iowa could recognize.

Three time g. Do the maf what a company gotta to do to keep wanting to invest MORE money and keep growin.

yup that;s the main point, the NFL doesn't have to depend on individuals stars

My mom was only interested in the NBA Finals because of LEBRON

[knicksman]

lol Bless, you're too smart to be having a conversation with knicksman. It's like trying to sell half eights. Too much effort with little profit.

Says the 2/6 stan:rolleyes:

[knicksman]

Word.

Football is more of a team sport.

Niggahs wear helmets. On the bench half the time.

Basketball needs superstOars to carry the league. Why THE AVERAGE fan tunes in.

Football is FAR MORE exciting to the average sports fan because it just is.

People like violence. People like gladiators. People like watching men try to kill each other. It's deep rooted bruh.

3 times bruh. The TV companies just paid 3 times as much. Players salaries are going to SKY ROCKET. After this deal, the players will want the same , but without growth, three times the growth , as a business, why would you pay MORE for a product that is lacking in what the people want to see- bonafied superstOars that 14 year old girls from Des Moines Iowa could recognize.

Three time g. Do the maf what a company gotta to do to keep wanting to invest MORE money and keep growin.

If you really know business bro esp sports business, you would realize that team sport>tennis or baseball(not a team sport). Theres a reason why we had the highest rating since jordan coz people now having hope that silver is different than stern when the spurs(playing the best team ball) won instead of rigging games to make kobe/bran the next jordan. Believe me bro, fans want beatiful plays and not superstars. Soccer doesnt have the gladiator style of nfl but its the most popular sport in the world and the only thing common between them? Its team play. If the league was really better during stern, the league wouldnt be in red.

[BasedTom]

just go the NFL route and make it illegal to play any semblance of defense, and throw in a few interference calls to sway the end of close games.

[Bless Mathews]

If you really know business bro esp sports business, you would realize that team sport>tennis or baseball(not a team sport). Theres a reason why we had the highest rating since jordan coz people now having hope that silver is different than stern when the spurs(playing the best team ball) won instead of rigging games to make kobe/bran the next jordan. Believe me bro, fans want beatiful plays and not superstars. Soccer doesnt have the gladiator style of nfl but its the most popular sport in the world and the only thing common between them? Its team play. If the league was really better during stern, the league wouldnt be in red.



Bwahahahahahahahaga


My stomach. My stomach.


You can't be serious.

Check the value of teams from 84 then when stern left.


Are you on acid ?

Players salaries.

Soccer?

Wtf is that?

This America. Tnt and abc/ESPN don't give a fucc bout soccer. Americans don't give a fucc bout soccer.

RATINGS WERE HIGH BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS WATCHING TO SEE IF BRON COULD WIN A RING IN HIS HOMETOWN.

Shit for brains.

You REALLY think the casual fan woulda tuned in to see the great team ball of the hawks vs warriors?


Swear. You people need to take your meds.

[Bless Mathews]

yup that;s the main point, the NFL doesn't have to depend on individuals stars

My mom was only interested in the NBA Finals because of LEBRON

EXACTLY.

That's what I mean.


Lebron is a got Damn world wide HOUSEHOULD name.

In 10 years, who? Who will have the whole package.

The out of this world, super hyped, and lived up to the hype just like magic bird Jordan Shaq Kobe and bron did.

AND THEN MAKE 3 TIMES THE RATINGS/money???!!!!!????!!????

[sportsfan76]

EXACTLY.

That's what I mean.


Lebron is a got Damn world wide HOUSEHOULD name.

In 10 years, who? Who will have the whole package.

The out of this world, super hyped, and lived up to the hype just like magic bird Jordan Shaq Kobe and bron did.

AND THEN MAKE 3 TIMES THE RATINGS/money???!!!!!????!!????


That's why I kept saying it was important for the Cavs to reach the Finals because if not it would have been no one to root against LOL

[tpols]

You REALLY think the casual fan woulda tuned in to see the great team ball of the hawks vs warriors?
.

That's happened before..Detroit versus spurs. League just made some new rules to get excitement back up.. Kickstarted wade nash and Bron along with many other average all star level perimeter players.. sprung durant with a lot of superstar treatment along with harden after kobe bron rivalry ran out.. they'll always have someone new to anoint and a story to push.

[sportsfan76]

That's happened before..Detroit versus spurs. League just made some new rules to get excitement back up.. Kickstarted wade nash and Bron along with many other average all star level perimeter players.. sprung durant with a lot of superstar treatment along with harden after kobe bron rivalry ran out.. they'll always have someone new to anoint and a story to push.


Did u just compare the goofy a$$ hawks team of 2015 and 2015 warriors to

The 2005 Pistons and spurs????????????????????????????????


Come on Dude, NO COMPARISON

You had big ben, rasheed wallace, billups. hamilton, prince vs parker, duncan, ginobli

[tpols]

Did u just compare the goofy a$$ hawks team of 2015 and 2015 warriors to

The 2005 Pistons and spurs????????????????????????????????


Come on Dude, NO COMPARISON

You had big ben, rasheed wallace, billups. hamilton, prince vs parker, duncan, ginobli

I'm saying it was two "team ball" teams playing.. although GS and hawks are even more exciting than that since they can at least go on offensive sprees.

[Hey Yo]

EXACTLY.

That's what I mean.


Lebron is a got Damn world wide HOUSEHOULD name.

In 10 years, who? Who will have the whole package.

The out of this world, super hyped, and lived up to the hype just like magic bird Jordan Shaq Kobe and bron did.

AND THEN MAKE 3 TIMES THE RATINGS/money???!!!!!????!!????
And then you have those who want the possibility of a Memphis vs. Spurs Finals because "the top 16 teams should be in the playoffs!!!!!!"

I'm sure that would draw greaaaaaaat ratings :rolleyes:

[tpols]

And then you have those who want the possibility of a Memphis vs. Spurs Finals because "the top 16 teams should be in the playoffs!!!!!!"

I'm sure that's going to draw greaaaaaaat ratings :rolleyes:

Memphis would never make the finals in that format. it'd be something like spurs-cavs, okc-GS and then some combo of the winner which would be amazing either way and make for better conference finals.

[sportsfan76]

I'm saying it was two "team ball" teams playing.. although GS and hawks are even more exciting than that since they can at least go on offensive sprees.

the hawks and warriors are more appealing than the 2005 pistons and spurs?

cancel your internet service

[knicksman]

Bwahahahahahahahaga


My stomach. My stomach.


You can't be serious.

Check the value of teams from 84 then when stern left.


Are you on acid ?

Players salaries.

Soccer?

Wtf is that?

This America. Tnt and abc/ESPN don't give a fucc bout soccer. Americans don't give a fucc bout soccer.

RATINGS WERE HIGH BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS WATCHING TO SEE IF BRON COULD WIN A RING IN HIS HOMETOWN.

Shit for brains.

You REALLY think the casual fan woulda tuned in to see the great team ball of the hawks vs warriors?


Swear. You people need to take your meds.

Lol. Because soccer in america isnt as good in europe. You dont know business bro if you think star driven league is good for nba. Soccer earns the highest in the world and nfl in US yet somehow a genius like you thinks sterns way is better. And Finals ratings before stern is better than before he retired.lol and ratings dipped once stern tried to create another jordan aka what you wanted, "superstars league". So stfu bro. Youre dumb

[oarabbus]

Messi made $71 Million last year. Soccer players make grown man money. You can't discredit that just because the game isn't as popular here, those guys get PAID

[Hey Yo]

Memphis would never make the finals in that format. it'd be something like spurs-cavs, okc-GS and then some combo of the winner which would be amazing either way and make for better conference finals.
2 West teams...just like 2 East teams, in the Finals, would be horrible for ratings......that's what I was getting at.

[Bless Mathews]

That's happened before..Detroit versus spurs. League just made some new rules to get excitement back up.. Kickstarted wade nash and Bron along with many other average all star level perimeter players.. sprung durant with a lot of superstar treatment along with harden after kobe bron rivalry ran out.. they'll always have someone new to anoint and a story to push.


Hahahhahahahahahha.

Hey you my niggah, but yo, those finals HAD AN 8.2 RATING.

TERRIBLE.

Bron's series this year got 13.9, highest since Jordan days.


Yall starting to see my point yet ???

Damn.


Just look. Yall kill me.


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/05/22/nba-finals-tv-ratings-1974-2008/19324/

[knicksman]

You know youre dumb when you prefer superstars league when soccer, nfl and even ncaa are more watched due to teamplays.

[Bless Mathews]

You know youre dumb when you prefer superstars league when soccer, nfl and even ncaa are more watched due to teamplays.


:facepalm