Why does this board overrate the Thunder so much?

[lilteapot]

Even if KD and Westbrook are healthy, the rest of the team is mediocre. The Warriors are easily deeper than any team in the league and would smoke OKC in a series.

[Cocaine80s]

B-b-but Billy Donovan doe

[imnew09]

Even if KD and Westbrook are healthy, the rest of the team is mediocre. The Warriors are easily deeper than any team in the league and would smoke OKC in a series.


KD owned that crappy Warrior with 1 leg. Imagines healthy?

[Genaro]

When you have 2 top 5 players you don't need to be that deep. Just get shooters and defenders around them and they will be fine. I would be surprise if anyone comes out of the West other than Spurs, Warriors and Thunder.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

B/c Russ has a history of raping Curry and KD does smacking up Iggy, Draymond and Barnes

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[JohnMax]

i hate them for giving lebron an easy ring

[bdreason]

Because although "team" basketball has made a resurgence with the Warriors and Spurs recently winning titles, people still consider it a players league. Meaning the team who has the best 2-3 players is typically favored to win any game/series.


Then you look at the Thunder, and they have two Top 5, MVP caliber players, surrounded with solid role-players. Assuming everyone is healthy, I have the Thunder as the favorites next season, followed by the Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs.

[KendrickPerkins]

Because although "team" basketball has made a resurgence with the Warriors and Spurs recently winning titles, people still consider it a players league. Meaning the team who has the best 2-3 players is typically favored to win any game/series.


Then you look at the Thunder, and they have two Top 5, MVP caliber players, surrounded with solid role-players. Assuming everyone is healthy, I have the Thunder as the favorites next season, followed by the Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs.
Finally a decent post by you. Keep it up skinny.

[SOD 21]

Even if KD and Westbrook are healthy, the rest of the team is mediocre. The Warriors are easily deeper than any team in the league and would smoke OKC in a series.

It sounds like the better question is this, why do you underrate Oklahoma City so much?

This team went to three conference finals in four years, including going to the NBA finals, and the only year they didn't make it to at least the conference finals (before this season) was when Russell Westbrook was injured in the playoffs against Houston.

If healthy, this team has been a top two or three team in the league over the last four or five seasons; not to mention having two of the top five players in the world and one of the top two or three shot blockers in the world.

Congratulations to Golden State on their championship because they were clearly a great team. But let's also be honest, Golden State was extremely fortunate not to have to play a healthy Oklahoma City team, the Houston team was down several starters and Cleveland playing without two of their three best players. Golden State may be the fourth best team next year behind OKC, SA and Cleveland.

[NugzFan]

It's just a few thunder fans who are huge homers. They are loud and obnoxious so it sounds worse than really is.

[Marchesk]

A healthy Thunder >>> banged up Cavs team that took the Warriors to six with Lebron shooting under 40%.

[Rose'sACL]

Thunder have good pieces around KD and Westbrook. A healthy thunder team will be a title contender.

[PejaNowitzki]

Because they have Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka and no1curr what else.

If healthy they will easily be one of the top 3 teams in the West.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Uhh two MVP candidates on the same team? Ibaka for blocking shots/spreading the floor, and now a legit post scorer? :biggums:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Drunken OKC hillbillies with easy access to message boards.

[oarabbus]

Finally a decent post by you. Keep it up skinny.

lmao bdreason talks quality basketball. This post shows who knows the game.

[Xiao Yao You]

A healthy Thunder >>> banged up Cavs team that took the Warriors to six with Lebron shooting under 40%.

Not healthy and they'll be looking up at the Jazz in the division. :applause:

[stephanieg]

2 MVP candidates? They used to have 3 MVP candidates and they still lost in the finals. Their style of ball is dumb as hell too.

[inclinerator]

i hate them for giving lebron an easy ring
but u like lebron

[uber]

wtf? they have two MVP candidates and arguably a top 10 PF .. they almost made the playoffs with KD and WB missing a bunch of games AND scott brooks as a coach ..

[Westbrook0]

The Thunder have more depth than people think: Kanter averaged 18 and 11 with the Thunder. Adams is a starting-quality center who will be coming off the bench now for Kanter. Morrow can go off in any game and had his best numbers last year with the Thunder. Dj Augustin could probably start at PG for a couple of teams in the league, and now we've got a lottery pick in Cameron Payne joining him, who could have easily gone top 10 in the draft.

Not to mention one of the best defensive players in the game, plus two MVP candidates.

Our style of play used to hurt us so badly. Brooks was a terrible coach and didn't know what he was doing, yet was still able to lead the Thunder to 3 WCF and a Finals, simply because of the quality of players he has.

Imagine what a real coach and a real coaching staff (Donovan, Monty Williams, Mo Cheeks) can do.

I keep saying this but Donovan doesn't have to be an amazing coach for the Thunder to be successful. He just has to be better than Brooks and the team will be better. And that shouldn't be that hard to do.

[j3lademaster]

The Thunder have more depth than people think: Kanter averaged 18 and 11 with the Thunder. Adams is a starting-quality center who will be coming off the bench now for Kanter. Morrow can go off in any game and had his best numbers last year with the Thunder. Dj Augustin could probably start at PG for a couple of teams in the league, and now we've got a lottery pick in Cameron Payne joining him, who could have easily gone top 10 in the draft.

Not to mention one of the best defensive players in the game, plus two MVP candidates.

Our style of play used to hurt us so badly. Brooks was a terrible coach and didn't know what he was doing, yet was still able to lead the Thunder to 3 WCF and a Finals, simply because of the quality of players he has.

Imagine what a real coach and a real coaching staff (Donovan, Monty Williams, Mo Cheeks) can do.

I keep saying this but Donovan doesn't have to be an amazing coach for the Thunder to be successful. He just has to be better than Brooks and the team will be better. And that shouldn't be that hard to do.agree with everything except for Kanter not being a net negative. You can't have your center as a revolving door on defense. You just can't. The most inept guard/ big pnr combo can just pick on him all game.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

The Thunder have more depth than people think: Kanter averaged 18 and 11 with the Thunder. Adams is a starting-quality center who will be coming off the bench now for Kanter. Morrow can go off in any game and had his best numbers last year with the Thunder. Dj Augustin could probably start at PG for a couple of teams in the league, and now we've got a lottery pick in Cameron Payne joining him, who could have easily gone top 10 in the draft.

Not to mention one of the best defensive players in the game, plus two MVP candidates.

Our style of play used to hurt us so badly. Brooks was a terrible coach and didn't know what he was doing, yet was still able to lead the Thunder to 3 WCF and a Finals, simply because of the quality of players he has.

Imagine what a real coach and a real coaching staff (Donovan, Monty Williams, Mo Cheeks) can do.

I keep saying this but Donovan doesn't have to be an amazing coach for the Thunder to be successful. He just has to be better than Brooks and the team will be better. And that shouldn't be that hard to do.
Kanter hopefully comes of the bench. Hes one of the worst defenders of alltime, he would be a great in a 6th man big scoring role

[Mirror]

Even if KD and Westbrook are healthy, the rest of the team is mediocre. The Warriors are easily deeper than any team in the league and would smoke OKC in a series.

Ibaka is also pretty good. Losing Reggie and Harden has done some pretty serious damage to that team.

[Joyner82reload]

Well let's see
A
They have the best player in the nba(durant)
A top 3 pg in the nba(Westbrook)
One of the best shot blockers(Ibaka)
One of the best post scorers(kanter)
One of the best shooters(morrow)
The best backup C(Adams)
One of the best backup PG(Augustin)
A developing backup PF with great potential(McGary)

The team has 2 weaknesses. Injuries and Waiters chucking. If they can't prevent those 2, they're the best team in the NBA

[DMAVS41]

Well let's see
A
They have the best player in the nba(durant)
A top 3 pg in the nba(Westbrook)
One of the best shot blockers(Ibaka)
One of the best post scorers(kanter)
One of the best shooters(morrow)
The best backup C(Adams)
One of the best backup PG(Augustin)
A developing backup PF with great potential(McGary)

The team has 2 weaknesses. Injuries and Waiters chucking. If they can't prevent those 2, they're the best team in the NBA

You forgot Singler. He'll do much better this year. He's actually a pretty decent player.

The only real weakness is Waiters. I just can't feel good about the Thunder winning it all...which means beating at least two of the Spurs, Warriors, Cavs....with Waiters playing a real role on this team.

The margins are too slim. They need to dump him and try to patch together something there.

Presti, for whatever reason, has really wet the bed at the 2 guard position since 13....when the Thunder had their best team to date (outside of this current team).

I have no idea what he is actually thinking.

[Cowboy Thunder]

Well let's see
A
They have the best player in the nba(durant)
A top 3 pg in the nba(Westbrook)
One of the best shot blockers(Ibaka)
One of the best post scorers(kanter)
One of the best shooters(morrow)
The best backup C(Adams)
One of the best backup PG(Augustin)
A developing backup PF with great potential(McGary)

The team has 2 weaknesses. Injuries and Waiters chucking. If they can't prevent those 2, they're the best team in the NBA

we may never lose again ever :bowdown:

[livinglegend]

Well let's see
A
They have the best player in the nba(durant)
A top 3 pg in the nba(Westbrook)
One of the best shot blockers(Ibaka)
One of the best post scorers(kanter)
One of the best shooters(morrow)
The best backup C(Adams)
One of the best backup PG(Augustin)
A developing backup PF with great potential(McGary)

The team has 2 weaknesses. Injuries and Waiters chucking. If they can't prevent those 2, they're the best team in the NBA

Bolded the wrong statements.

[KG215]

Bolded the wrong statements.
- At worst, when healthy, Durant is the second best player in the NBA.

- How is Ibaka not one of the top shot blockers in the NBA? How in the hell is that wrong?

- All other deficiencies aside, Kanter is a really damn good back to the basket scorer. So, again, not sure how what he said there is wrong.

- Morrow absolutely is one of the best spot-up, knockdown 3P shooters in the NBA.

- Adams may not be the best backup center in the league, but he's a damn good one.

- Augustin absolutely is one of the best backup PGs in the NBA.

- And McGary showed plenty of flashes last year in his rookie season of having a lot of promise.

[Nastradamus]

Even if KD and Westbrook are healthy, the rest of the team is mediocre. The Warriors are easily deeper than any team in the league and would smoke OKC in a series.

Because usually, when all else is close, the best player is the key to winning a series and they have the 2 best players in any series in the West, plus a 3rd player who is a semi star.

They actually have a lot more depth than given credit for. Adams,Mcgary,Kanter and Ibaka is an insanely young and talented big man group. On the wing behind Durant and Morrow(one of the best shooters in the league), they have Singler,Roberson,Waiters,Huestis and Novak. They are very young and talented.

Payne and Augustin is very nice behind Westbrook too and one or both will play in a backcourt with him frequently.

[Cowboy Thunder]

- At worst, when healthy, Durant is the second best player in the NBA.

- How is Ibaka not one of the top shot blockers in the NBA? How in the hell is that wrong?

- All other deficiencies aside, Kanter is a really damn good back to the basket scorer. So, again, not sure how what he said there is wrong.

- Morrow absolutely is one of the best spot-up, knockdown 3P shooters in the NBA.

- Adams may not be the best backup center in the league, but he's a damn good one.

- Augustin absolutely is one of the best backup PGs in the NBA.

- And McGary showed plenty of flashes last year in his rookie season of having a lot of promise.

:bowdown:

[Nastradamus]

Its quite possible that Kanter is a more valuable player over the next 4 years than Lamarcus Aldridge. He's 22 and already starting to put up 19 and 11 per 36, and even better for OKC in his short stretch there. No D, but LMA either.