am i the only one that realizes what mitch is really doing. why is ISH so clueless

[kennethgriffin]

Roy Hibbert... is an expiring contract..... THIS SEASON


for 15.5 million


mid season tankers will unload their stars to LA the same way the grizzlies did back in 2008


and the lakers have a plethora of young talent to be the meat/heart of the deal for the future of that tanking team if cost cutting isnt enough of an offer

but in the nba a massive expiring contract is one of the most valuable assets. and indiana just gave it away for free to LA



larry bird is just as clueless as most of ISH


http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Larry-Bird-pacers.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

infact i wouldn't be surprised if the lakers weren't working on a trade right now. they had no other big contract to swing a deal for a guy like cousins anyway. now they do


don't be shocked if the lakers end up trading clarkson,black,nance jr, hibbert for cousins

[christian1923]

Melo?

[kennethgriffin]

Melo?


wouldnt be surprised if phil tried unloading melo on the lakers only to have another deal veto'd for basketball reasons due to the personal relationship between jeanie/phil

[GIF REACTION]

infact i wouldn't be surprised if the lakers weren't working on a trade right now. they had no other big contract to swing a deal for a guy like cousins anyway. now they do


don't be shocked if the lakers end up trading clarkson,black,nance jr, hibbert for cousins
Hater Troll.

Big Cuz ain't going nowhere, pal.

[smoovegittar]

Salvia?

[kennethgriffin]

http://33.media.tumblr.com/d174f19aeec78b8e91c1e118e04a44fa/tumblr_ndtbbdtMof1r66m02o3_250.gif







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yesterday this tool tried telling me he was a laker fan

[Magic 32]

Hibbert+Young+Clarkson = ????

[ralph_i_el]

Massive expiring contracts were worth s lot a few years ago. Not anymore. Sorry bud.

Especially when the Lakers already had like $30m expirings anyways

[bobopenguin]

infact i wouldn't be surprised if the lakers weren't working on a trade right now. they had no other big contract to swing a deal for a guy like cousins anyway. now they do


don't be shocked if the lakers end up trading clarkson,black,nance jr, hibbert for cousins

ok. koe's expiring 25mil + hibbert's 15mil thats 40mil.
and all these money are going to some washed up trash role players.

[Fallen Angel]

OP and Laker Nation are going full retard

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Nah dog the Lakers just traded for a 28 year old 7 foot 2 2 time all star who anchored one of the best defenses in the league for a second round pick. They are terrible.

[Fallen Angel]

Nah dog the Lakers just traded for a 28 year old 7 foot 2 2 time all star who anchored one of the best defenses in the league for a second round pick. They are terrible.
So wait, are you looking for wins or trying to rebuild. Make up your mind.

Stop trying to flip flop, either these Lakers are TRYING to make the playoffs or they are TRYING to keep their lottery pick which is Top 3 protected.

[niko]

Everyone has cap space for next year already. An expiring contract doesn't have much value.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Everyone has cap space for next year already. An expiring contract doesn't have much value.

Yeah, this.

And Lakers didn't trade anyone away for the expirer so they aren't saving any money next summer themselves either

[DMAVS41]

Everyone has cap space for next year already. An expiring contract doesn't have much value.

Yep.

The only value would be a team shedding a long term deal they want to get out of.

Doubt Lakers want to take on big and long term money regardless.

I hear people talking Melo...but why would the Lakers even want to do that? Talk about a way to stunt the growth of your young players.

Lets bring in an aging ball dominant win player that doesn't do any of the little things it takes to win consistently in the NBA....makes no sense.

While it's possible a desperate team gives them something at the deadline, it won't be much regardless. Hibbert hasn't been good...and the game is trending in a way that makes him far less valuable.

A contending team won't want him too badly because too many teams can go small and make him irrelevant.

Having said that, I think Hibbert definitely adds wins to this Lakers team. Outside of him right now...they might have the worst defensive lineup ever.

[salwan]

Everyone has cap space for next year already. An expiring contract doesn't have much value.
this.

op is delusional

[r0drig0lac]

http://twitpic.com/show/large/96mhds

[Yao Ming's Foot]

So wait, are you looking for wins or trying to rebuild. Make up your mind.

Stop trying to flip flop, either these Lakers are TRYING to make the playoffs or they are TRYING to keep their lottery pick which is Top 3 protected.

The Lakers are interested in improving their team while maintaining financial flexibility in the future. :confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffin]

for the people saying the lakers wont get offers cause teams will have cap space next year.. every single tanking team wants the least amount of payroll they can get. they don't trade for expiring deals to get under the cap to sign a max free agent. they do it cause they wanna suck. and the more expiring deals to clear room the better


and thats not even the main part. to trade rookies for stars you need a big contract thats expiring. since a rookie makes 1-2 million and its impossible to trade for a guy that makes 20 million unless a guy like hibbert is involved

[Fallen Angel]

You're acting like the salary cap isn't gonna explode upward next season, then even higher the season after.

What horrible contracts were the Lakers trading to acquire Roy Hibbert's expiring contract? Oh, none? Really? They gave up two future second rounders and the rights to a foreign player for one season of Roy Hibbert?

****ing retarded. There is nothing beneficial with this move. If Roy Hibbert were to come and play to his peak days in Indiana the Lakers would still miss the playoffs and would probably lose their lottery pick in 2016. If Roy Hibbert flops then you just paid $12M for a headache and gave up two draft picks while at it. This is a lose-lose situation. There is nothing to be gained with getting Roy Hibbert.

[coast2coast]

The Lakers are interested in improving their team while maintaining financial flexibility in the future. :confusedshrug:

Nobody believes this because they didn't amnesty a guy making near $30 million to be a cheerleader.

The team needs to trade away all the old, washed-up players only worth the minimum like Bryant, then they can acquire some real talent.

[kennethgriffin]

You're acting like the salary cap isn't gonna explode upward next season, then even higher the season after.

What horrible contracts were the Lakers trading to acquire Roy Hibbert's expiring contract? Oh, none? Really? They gave up two future second rounders and the rights to a foreign player for one season of Roy Hibbert?

****ing retarded. There is nothing beneficial with this move. If Roy Hibbert were to come and play to his peak days in Indiana the Lakers would still miss the playoffs and would probably lose their lottery pick in 2016. If Roy Hibbert flops then you just paid $12M for a headache and gave up two draft picks while at it. This is a lose-lose situation. There is nothing to be gained with getting Roy Hibbert.



bigger salary cap just means allot more regulars are gonna get max deals...


look at this offseason... average guys are getting 20 mill everywhere


so teams will still want expiring deals. theyel all be over the cap again after their first free agent signing

[Fallen Angel]

bigger salary cap just means allot more regulars are gonna get max deals...


look at this offseason... average guys are getting 20 mill everywhere


so teams will still want expiring deals. theyel all be over the cap again after their first free agent signing
ARE YOU RETARDED?!!?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

You're acting like the salary cap isn't gonna explode upward next season, then even higher the season after.

What horrible contracts were the Lakers trading to acquire Roy Hibbert's expiring contract? Oh, none? Really? They gave up two future second rounders and the rights to a foreign player for one season of Roy Hibbert?

****ing retarded. There is nothing beneficial with this move. If Roy Hibbert were to come and play to his peak days in Indiana the Lakers would still miss the playoffs and would probably lose their lottery pick in 2016. If Roy Hibbert flops then you just paid $12M for a headache and gave up two draft picks while at it. This is a lose-lose situation. There is nothing to be gained with getting Roy Hibbert.

Hibbert flops... Lakers are still terrible... keep pick.... In a better position because they did not sign other scrubs to long term contracts instead of Hibbert

Hibbert is good.... Lakers trade him mid season for more assets

Hibbert is good.... loves playing here..... Lakers resign him

:confusedshrug:

[Akrazotile]

I like Hibb. Hope things work out in LA for him.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Nobody believes this because they didn't amnesty a guy making near $30 million to be a cheerleader.

The team needs to trade away all the old, washed-up players only worth the minimum like Bryant, then they can acquire some real talent.

Kobe Bryant is a living legend and has a perfect large expiring contract consistent with this vision. :confusedshrug:

[Fallen Angel]

The Lakers didn't shed ANY contract off their books for next season. They could have signed a bunch of 1 year deals from this Free Agency class, but instead they traded two second round picks.

How are you retards not understanding your front office is full of bigger retards.

[wally_world]

Or they couldve just off-loaded those stars without taking big salary back since Lakers have the cap space :confusedshrug:

Makes even more sense, less financial liability

[kennethgriffin]

ARE YOU RETARDED?!!?

tristan thompson ( a hustle guy, role player ) = 20 million

deandre jordan ( a rebounding role player ) = 20 million

kawhi leonard ( defensive average 15ppg specialist ) = 20 million

goran dragic ( really good, not great ) = 20 million

paul millsap ( his teams 3rd best player ) = 20 million

greg monroe ( solid big ) = 20 million

dreymond green ( really good, not great ) = almost 20 million

brook lopez ( overrated ) = 20 million





next year all the boarderline guys will be getting 25 mill



remember back in the day when to get that kind of money you had to average 25-30ppg... now 15ppg guys get that dough



believe me.... the cap increase won't be the end all be all saviour of every single team in some kind of magical utopian society of under the cap miracle money making bonanza nonstop profit league of wizardry like you seem to think itel be


:lol

[Jameerthefear]

Yep. Everyone is giving away first rounders and valuable assets for a 2 month rental of Roy Hibbert. Yep. That's what they'll do.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

The Lakers didn't shed ANY contract off their books for next season. They could have signed a bunch of 1 year deals from this Free Agency class, but instead they traded two second round picks.

How are you retards not understanding your front office is full of bigger retards.

Because there is no evidence that the 76ers philosophy actually works. As if the only winning play is not to try. Should the Lakers even pitched to Lamarcus Aldridge? They are not a contender with him. Why try right??

[Fallen Angel]

Hibbert flops... Lakers are still terrible...
Okay...


keep pick....
You're starting to understand....


In a better position because they did not sign other scrubs to long term contracts instead of Hibbert
No. They could have signed cheaper guys and not have to trade away to draft picks just for $12M of Roy Hibbert. So no, they Lakers are in a bad position, the only thing worse would be if the Lakers traded a first.


Hibbert is good....
Okay...

Lakers trade him mid season for more assets
:facepalm No. Nobody is giving up assets for 0 points and 0 rebounds in the playoffs.


Hibbert is good....
Okay.......


loves playing here..... Lakers resign him
:biggums:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

The Pacers just got a second round pick from the Lakers at Hilbert's peak low trade value yet its inconceivable for the Lakers to get better trade value that that if he rejuvenates his career. :oldlol:

[Fallen Angel]

Because there is no evidence that the 76ers philosophy actually works. As if the only winning play is not to try. Should the Lakers even pitched to Lamarcus Aldridge? They are not a contender with him. Why try right??
But there is evidence that the Houston Rockets, who just made an appearance in the Western Conference Finals, know how to utilize draft picks and assets by flipping them to even more draft picks and assets and then flipping that into a great players like James Harden and Trevor Ariza or be able to package those picks and assets with a bad contract to garner more cap space.

The key is being flexible with have the ability to make room for max free agents through one trade with all the assets you have, but if the max free agent decides he doesn't want to join your team you still have those assets at your disposal. That's why Rockets fans aren't bummed with missing out on Lamarcus Aldridge because we get to keep Trevor Ariza (who would have likely to have been traded to make room), Terrence Jones, and our draft picks. But if you were a team that loses out on a free agent (like the Lakers) and have nothing to fall back on, then that's the showing of bad management and planning.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

But there is evidence that the Houston Rockets, who just made an appearance in the Western Conference Finals, know how to utilize draft picks and assets by flipping them to even more draft picks and assets and then flipping that into a great players like James Harden and Trevor Ariza or be able to package those picks and assets with a bad contract to garner more cap space.

The key is being flexible with have the ability to make room for max free agents through one trade with all the assets you have, but if the max free agent decides he doesn't want to join your team you still have those assets at your disposal. That's why Rockets fans aren't bummed with missing out on Lamarcus Aldridge because we get to keep Trevor Ariza (who would have likely to have been traded to make room), Terrence Jones, and our draft picks. But if you were a team that loses out on a free agent (like the Lakers) and have nothing to fall back on, then that's the showing of bad management and planning.

What the hell are you blabbering about?

The Lakers could buy the entire second round every year if they wanted to. The Rockets lucked into one lucky trade and imagine themselves that they have some sort of stranglehold on success. Meanwhile Dwight will be a free agent next year and their franchise player flames out of the playoffs in a humiliating fashion every year.

Tell me more professor you are so wise with your talk of assets its no wonder you gave us a first rounder so that Chris Bosh could tell you clowns to get lost. :applause: :bowdown:

[Nash]

Hibbert flops... Lakers are still terrible... keep pick.... In a better position because they did not sign other scrubs to long term contracts instead of Hibbert

Hibbert is good.... Lakers trade him mid season for more assets

Hibbert is good.... loves playing here..... Lakers resign him

:confusedshrug:
agree here, what could 2nd round picks do anyway.

Hibbert is a good center, especially on defense.

[kshutts1]

agree here, what could 2nd round picks do anyway.

Hibbert is a good center, especially on defense.
Second round picks are starting to hold a lot of value because they are non-guaranteed contracts.

I would guess the "pick value" (obviously depends on year/prospects/etc) to be...
Picks 1/2
3-10
11-15
16-20
31-45
21-30
46-60

But that's just a guess. Those late-first picks are losing value relative to the seconds, because they're still not likely to be players that will contribute right away, but they do count against the cap.

[wakencdukest]

What the hell are you blabbering about?

The Lakers could buy the entire second round every year if they wanted to. The Rockets lucked into one lucky trade and imagine themselves that they have some sort of stranglehold on success. Meanwhile Dwight will be a free agent next year and their franchise player flames out of the playoffs in a humiliating fashion every year.

Tell me more professor you are so wise with your talk of assets its no wonder you gave us a first rounder so that Chris Bosh could tell you clowns to get lost. :applause: :bowdown:



:applause:

These dipshits are so caught up hating the Lakers that they would trash any move they made. If Hibbert don't work out, his 15m expiring can be moved for assets. If he does work out, He will still be tradeable and the Philly pick might be late lottery, which would be better than the Lakers trying to tank and ending up with the fourth pick.

[inclinerator]

how long do u expect kobe to play really lol, every season that goes by he's only going to get worse