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dubeta
07-05-2015, 04:26 PM
Has this ever happened in NBA history??


LeBron has been the leading Scorer, Rebounder, and Playmaker for 4 straight playoffs (2012-2015)


Yes LeBron outrebounded even Tristan Thompson in these playoffs



Tell me about how 'stacked' LeBrons teams have been








Cliffs: LeBron has lead a team all the way to the Finals 4 straight years by completely carrying them in virtually every statistical category

3ball
07-05-2015, 04:51 PM
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Playoffs Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 34.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 6.6 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BLK, 25.4 FGA, 50.1 FG%, 29.6 PER, 0.258 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48


Finals Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 36.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 7.9 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.76 BPG, 52.6% FG, 40.7% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT



Career Playoff Averages:

Jordan: 33.4 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 25.1 FGA, 48.7 FG%, 28.6 PER, 0.255 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48


Career Finals Averages:

Jordan: 33.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.65 BPG, 48.1% FG, 36.8% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT


Source: basketball-reference.com



4th Quarter Scoring:


MJ 1997 Playoffs: 9.6
MJ 1998 Playoffs (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4): 9.0

MJ 1993 Finals: 10.7
MJ 1997 Finals: 10.4
MJ 1998 Finals: 10.3

FYI: MJ 1988 Regular Season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380784): 12.1


Lebron 2013 Playoffs: 7.4
Lebron 2014 Playoffs: 5.8
Lebron 2015 Playoffs: 8.1

Lebron 2011 Finals: 2.2
Lebron 2014 Finals: 3.6
Lebron 2015 Finals: 10.1**


** 30% FG in 4th quarter, including zero points in 4th quarter of critical Game 4, with opportunity to take 3-1 series lead (only 20 points total in game)
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3ball
07-05-2015, 04:52 PM
Cliffs: LeBron has lead a team all the way to the Finals 4 straight years by completely carrying them in virtually every statistical category


Scoring is the most important thing a #1 option does.. Lebron would have more rings if he traded in some of his rebounding for more scoring (and clutch).

As for MJ, he had the GOAT impact on a team in 1989 and 1990 - Bulls were lottery without him, but ECF and 1 year away from a three-peat with him.*


*Despite Doug Collins' poor coaching, MJ carried a horrible Bulls team in 1989.

Without MJ in 1989, the 6th-seeded, 47-win Bulls miss the playoffs.

But WITH Jordan, they took the champion Bad Boys to 6 games in ECF.. So instead of being a lottery team heading into the 1990 season, the Bulls were ECF veterans and 1 season away from their 1st three-peat.

That's the GOAT impact - lottery vs. 1 season away from 3-peat.

Beastmode88
07-05-2015, 05:05 PM
Cool lebron's also 2 for 4 in the last 4 years. I finally figured out with Kobe wears 24. At this rate lebron has to played another 12 finals to catch up to mj.

dubeta
07-05-2015, 05:06 PM
Cool lebron's also 2 for 4 in the last 4 years. I finally figured out with Kobe wears 24. At this rate lebron has to played another 12 finals to catch up to mj.

And needs to lose another 60 years to catch up to the knicks

JerrySeinfeld
07-05-2015, 05:07 PM
LeBron ball :applause:

outbreak
07-05-2015, 05:07 PM
Lebron ball hogging

Soundwave
07-05-2015, 05:07 PM
He's a a great player. Just not the greatest. Among some very other good players though.

Every great player has some kind of statical anamoly that is freakish compared to everyone else because they all have different gifts (ie: Jordan and Shaq's Finals numbers are freakish).

G0ATbe
07-05-2015, 05:08 PM
Also leads the team in finals losses.

Beastmode88
07-05-2015, 05:11 PM
And needs to lose another 60 years to catch up to the knicks

more than that. cavs have 0 rings. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

nzahir
07-05-2015, 05:12 PM
Scoring is the most important thing a #1 option does.. Lebron would have more rings if he traded in some of his rebounding for more scoring (and clutch).

As for MJ, he had the GOAT impact on a team in 1989 and 1990 - Bulls were lottery without him, but ECF and 1 year away from a three-peat with him.*


*Despite Doug Collins' poor coaching, MJ carried a horrible Bulls team in 1989.

Without MJ in 1989, the 6th-seeded, 47-win Bulls miss the playoffs.

But WITH Jordan, they took the champion Bad Boys to 6 games in ECF.. So instead of being a lottery team heading into the 1990 season, the Bulls were ECF veterans and 1 season away from their 1st three-peat.

That's the GOAT impact - lottery vs. 1 season away from 3-peat.
Wrong as usual. Was magic johnson's number 1 priority to pass or to score? That GOAT impact that Mj had was only 2 wins because when he left they still won 55 games; when lebron left mia and Cleveland you saw what happened. Mj>bron but in terms of impact maybe not; and its a close competition. Give it more years and then you wont have much to say

dubeta
07-05-2015, 06:10 PM
more than that. cavs have 0 rings. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Bron has 2 doe

2 in 12 years

Knicks 2 in 70 years


:lol

Straight_Ballin
07-05-2015, 06:14 PM
Has this ever happened in NBA history??[/B]

Is this how pathetic the discussions about Lebron James have become?

Please talk about Lebron when there's actually something of interest to talk about... like say...him actually winning.

But... but.. but... 5 finals in a row.... cough... 2/6 but... cough... his rebounds doe... cough.....that 34% fg doe... cough...

Let us know when he can actually muster up more than 2/6. Can't recall the last time a guy had a good enough team through so many efforts of collusion and ring chasing to get him to the finals so many times.... and he still choked.

warriorfan
07-05-2015, 06:15 PM
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Playoffs Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 34.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 6.6 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BLK, 25.4 FGA, 50.1 FG%, 29.6 PER, 0.258 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48


Finals Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 36.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 7.9 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.76 BPG, 52.6% FG, 40.7% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT



Career Playoff Averages:

Jordan: 33.4 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 25.1 FGA, 48.7 FG%, 28.6 PER, 0.255 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48


Career Finals Averages:

Jordan: 33.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.65 BPG, 48.1% FG, 36.8% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT


Source: basketball-reference.com



4th Quarter Scoring:


MJ 1997 Playoffs: 9.6
MJ 1998 Playoffs (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4): 9.0

MJ 1993 Finals: 10.7
MJ 1997 Finals: 10.4
MJ 1998 Finals: 10.3

FYI: MJ 1988 Regular Season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380784): 12.1


Lebron 2013 Playoffs: 7.4
Lebron 2014 Playoffs: 5.8
Lebron 2015 Playoffs: 8.1

Lebron 2011 Finals: 2.2
Lebron 2014 Finals: 3.6
Lebron 2015 Finals: 10.1**


** 30% FG in 4th quarter, including zero points in 4th quarter of critical Game 4, with opportunity to take 3-1 series lead (only 20 points total in game)
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http://i.imgur.com/jnIRkOZ.gif

dubeta
07-05-2015, 06:21 PM
Is this how pathetic the discussions about Lebron James have become?

Please talk about Lebron when there's actually something of interest to talk about... like say...him actually winning.

But... but.. but... 5 finals in a row.... cough... 2/6 but... cough... his rebounds doe... cough.....that 34% fg doe... cough...

Let us know when he can actually muster up more than 2/6. Can't recall the last time a guy had a good enough team through so many efforts of collusion and ring chasing to get him to the finals so many times.... and he still choked.

LOL if he colludes and stacks the deck, why does he lead the team in every stat?


This thread proves that LeBrons teams were never 'stacked', the complete opposite of what you're trying to babble about

Expected nothing else from a 40 year old , 1-9 worshipping beta

3ball
07-05-2015, 06:26 PM
Playoffs Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 34.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 6.6 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BLK, 25.4 FGA, 50.1 FG%, 29.6 PER, 0.258 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48


Finals Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 36.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 7.9 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.76 BPG, 52.6% FG, 40.7% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT



Career Playoff Averages:

Jordan: 33.4 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 25.1 FGA, 48.7 FG%, 28.6 PER, 0.255 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48


Career Finals Averages:

Jordan: 33.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.65 BPG, 48.1% FG, 36.8% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT


Source: basketball-reference.com



4th Quarter Scoring:


MJ 1997 Playoffs: 9.6
MJ 1998 Playoffs (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4): 9.0

MJ 1993 Finals: 10.7
MJ 1997 Finals: 10.4
MJ 1998 Finals: 10.3

FYI: MJ 1988 Regular Season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380784): 12.1


Lebron 2013 Playoffs: 7.4
Lebron 2014 Playoffs: 5.8
Lebron 2015 Playoffs: 8.1

Lebron 2011 Finals: 2.2
Lebron 2014 Finals: 3.6
Lebron 2015 Finals: 10.1**


** 30% FG in 4th quarter, including zero points in 4th quarter of critical Game 4, with opportunity to take 3-1 series lead (only 20 points total in game)


b-b-b-but the Bulls won 55 without MJ



MJ put them in that position.

If MJ had retired in 1989 instead, the 1994 Bulls that executed at a 3-peat level would never have existed because they would've been a lottery team headed into the 1990 season, instead of ECF veterans and 1 season away from their 1st three-peat.

That's the GOAT impact - lottery vs. 1 season away from 3-peat (not a 1-off championship, a 3-peat).

Blue&Orange
07-05-2015, 06:30 PM
Has this ever happened in NBA history??


LeBron has been the leading Scorer, Rebounder, and Playmaker for 4 straight playoffs (2012-2015)


Yes LeBron outrebounded even Tristan Thompson in these playoffs



Tell me about how 'stacked' LeBrons teams have been








Cliffs: LeBron has lead a team all the way to the Finals 4 straight years by completely carrying them in virtually every statistical category
Enjoy retard
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380294



Remember that white unauthentic stiff called Larry Bird that in today’s game would be Steve Novak? He got more offensive rebounds than Lebron. How is that possible? Such a specimen like Lebron, such a great rebounder!! Lebron’s offensive rebounds vs total rebounds disparity is laughable, dude is playing with Thompson and Mozgov and getting 14 defensive rebounds, how pathetic is that? Tremendous impact on the game getting that defensive rebound against your teammates when every player from the other team is already on their halfcourt! :applause:


Lebron gets 14 defensive rebounds playing with TT and Mozgoz but Larry Bird with a broken back gets more offensive rebounds that this unpararell athletic specimen and LEbrontards even celebrate this as an incredible achievement when it's the most obvious and blatant proof of how empty this man stats are and how he keep hurting his team for his benefit.


Retards what's you gonna do. Guess the Check my stats wasn't obvious enough. Statpadder loser 2/6. Pseudo GOAT that shoots 20% outside layups.

Trollsmasher
07-05-2015, 06:30 PM
The number of times LeBron has lead his team in points, boards and assists in the postseason?

35

The next closest?

Bird with 13

warriorfan
07-05-2015, 06:34 PM
LeStatpad

LeBoxscore

LeEmptyStats

Hey Yo
07-05-2015, 06:44 PM
Lebron’s offensive rebounds vs total rebounds disparity is laughable, dude is playing with Thompson and Mozgov and getting 14 defensive rebounds, how pathetic is that? Tremendous impact on the game getting that defensive rebound against your teammates when every player from the other team is already on their halfcourt!

MPG:
James - 45.7
Thompson - 41.1
Mozgof - 28.3

Plus he was avg. less than 12 defensive....not 14.

Straight_Ballin
07-05-2015, 06:46 PM
LOL if he colludes and stacks the deck, why does he lead the team in every stat?


This thread proves that LeBrons teams were never 'stacked', the complete opposite of what you're trying to babble about

Expected nothing else from a 40 year old , 1-9 worshipping beta

If you actually knew anything about basketball you would know that it's a team sport and that it doesn't matter how good you are as an individual, you need a TEAM to make it to the finals. Both Lebron's and Jordan's TEAMS were good enough to make it to the finals.

The difference is that one man led his team to perfection and the other only mustered up a 2/6. Don't you have anything else better to do that to troll this board with bullshit Lebron nonsense when he won't even win with a stacked team in 2016? Wake the hell up kid.

SHAQisGOAT
07-05-2015, 06:55 PM
The number of times LeBron has lead his team in points, boards and assists in the postseason?

35

The next closest?

Bird with 13

Since you Bron's fanboys really love stats and such...

Hit me up when LeBron leads his team in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, FG% and FT% for a whole post-season run... Larry Bird did just that in 1984 :bowdown: That's over the course of 23 games WHILE winning the title.

^He was wrecking shit up while his teammates were playing well below their standards (as evidenced by the numbers; Larry was no statpadder)... Going through King's Knicks, Moncrief's Bucks, then the Showtime Lakers with Kareem, Magic, Worthy, McAdoo, Cooper, Rambis, Scott, Wilkes...

Leading the team in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, FG% and FT%, for the whole Playoffs? Nop, nobody ever did that in NBA history... And that's WHILE winning the title/FMVP too.
Larry also was 3rd in 3P% with easily more 3's attempted, and 3rd in blocks.
:applause:
That run is underrated af.

Bird also led his team in Points, Rebounds, Assists and FT% in the 1986 Playoffs, leading them to the title... Only player who ever averaged a triple-double in a Finals series (rounding up the numbers).

In 1981 he was 5 assists shy of leading them in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals and FT%... Again, leading them to the title.
For the 1987 Playoffs, he led the team in Points, Rebounds, Steals and FT%... Their depleted team - that couldn't really compete ALL the way anymore - lost in the Finals vs one of the GOAT teams, after some extremely gruelsome series against some great teams.

diamenz
07-05-2015, 07:18 PM
If you actually knew anything about basketball you would know that it's a team sport and that it doesn't matter how good you are as an individual, you need a TEAM to make it to the finals. Both Lebron's and Jordan's TEAMS were good enough to make it to the finals.

The difference is that one man led his team to perfection and the other only mustered up a 2/6. Don't you have anything else better to do that to troll this board with bullshit Lebron nonsense when he won't even win with a stacked team in 2016? Wake the hell up kid.

dayum. left dubeta smokin' from his shoes.

dubeta
07-05-2015, 07:20 PM
Since you Bron's fanboys really love stats and such...

Hit me up when LeBron leads his team in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, FG% and FT% for a whole post-season run... Larry Bird did just that in 1984 :bowdown: That's over the course of 23 games WHILE winning the title.

^He was wrecking shit up while his teammates were playing well below their standards (as evidenced by the numbers; Larry was no statpadder)... Going through King's Knicks, Moncrief's Bucks, then the Showtime Lakers with Kareem, Magic, Worthy, McAdoo, Cooper, Rambis, Scott, Wilkes...

Leading the team in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, FG% and FT%, for the whole Playoffs? Nop, nobody ever did that in NBA history... And that's WHILE winning the title/FMVP too.
Larry also was 3rd in 3P% with easily more 3's attempted, and 3rd in blocks.
:applause:
That run is underrated af.

Bird also led his team in Points, Rebounds, Assists and FT% in the 1986 Playoffs, leading them to the title... Only player who ever averaged a triple-double in a Finals series (rounding up the numbers).

In 1981 he was 5 assists shy of leading them in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals and FT%... Again, leading them to the title.
For the 1987 Playoffs, he led the team in Points, Rebounds, Steals and FT%... Their depleted team - that couldn't really compete ALL the way anymore - lost in the Finals vs one of the GOAT teams, after some extremely gruelsome series against some great teams.


LOL @ adding ft%, thats like the most meaningless stat as long as you're shooting 70%+


Bird = poor mans LeBron at carrying teams in pts, rebs, assists

Beastmode88
07-05-2015, 07:25 PM
LOL @ adding ft%, thats like the most meaningless stat as long as you're shooting 70%+


Bird = poor mans LeBron at carrying teams in pts, rebs, assists

lmao what..? bird > lebron. bird was doing the punking while lebron was getting punked. :roll:

Hey Yo
07-05-2015, 07:28 PM
If you actually knew anything about basketball you would know that it's a team sport and that it doesn't matter how good you are as an individual, you need a TEAM to make it to the finals. Both Lebron's and Jordan's TEAMS were good enough to make it to the finals.

The difference is that one man led his team to perfection and the other only mustered up a 2/6. Don't you have anything else better to do that to troll this board with bullshit Lebron nonsense when he won't even win with a stacked team in 2016? Wake the hell up kid.
LOL @ you asking someone else that question.

SHAQisGOAT
07-05-2015, 07:41 PM
LOL @ adding ft%, thats like the most meaningless stat as long as you're shooting 70%+

... which LeBron couldn't even do for the 2007, 2011 and 2015 Finals :rolleyes: :lol

LBJFTW
07-05-2015, 07:46 PM
... which LeBron couldn't even do for the 2007, 2011 and 2015 Finals :rolleyes: :lol

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knicksman
07-05-2015, 08:05 PM
Bran is a prime ex. of winning the battle but losing the war. He won the battle of stats at the expense of his teammates thus losing the war. Only those who dont know shit beyond stats are fooled by bran

warriorfan
07-05-2015, 09:38 PM
dubeta is on one