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RagaZ
07-05-2015, 07:30 PM
It's weird. It's the same with Japan. Why cant their men produce the same results?

Shade8780
07-05-2015, 07:32 PM
Their women wear the trousers.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 07:43 PM
Cause our best athletes play baseball, football, and basketball.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 08:14 PM
Cause our best athletes play baseball, football, and basketball.


Cus soccer is seen mostly as a sport for Children and Women.

^Thems.

If our best athletes cared 1/10th as much about soccer as the rest of the World does, we'd be unstoppable at soccer. Luckily for 'the others', most dudes don't play soccer past the 6th grade so Euro/Latin midgets run the game for now.

SugarHill
07-05-2015, 08:16 PM
^Thems.

If our best athletes cared 1/10th as much about soccer as the rest of the World does, we'd be unstoppable at soccer. Luckily for 'the others', most dudes don't play soccer past the 6th grade so Euro/Latin midgets run the game for now.
Most basketball and football players would be rubbish regardless due to body type

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 08:20 PM
Cause our best athletes play baseball, football, and basketball.

Doesn't explain why Japanese women are so much better in soccer on a consistent basis than the men.

I have a feeling it has more to do with the opportunity women get in first world countries. Men play sports from a young age in all countries, rich or poor. Women, perhaps not so much.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 08:20 PM
^Thems.

If our best athletes cared 1/10th as much about soccer as the rest of the World does, we'd be unstoppable at soccer. Luckily for 'the others', most dudes don't play soccer past the 6th grade so Euro/Latin midgets run the game for now.
Basically.

You'll most likely get called a fa99ot by your peers if you play soccer past 12 years old in the a states.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 08:22 PM
Doesn't explain why Japanese women are so much better in soccer on a consistent basis than the men.

I have a feeling it has more to do with the opportunity women get in first world countries. Men play sports from a young age in all countries, rich or poor. Women, perhaps not so much.
Is soccer big in Japan?

I think they're a baseball country

Alamо
07-05-2015, 08:23 PM
^Thems.

If our best athletes cared 1/10th as much about soccer as the rest of the World does, we'd be unstoppable at soccer. Luckily for 'the others', most dudes don't play soccer past the 6th grade so Euro/Latin midgets run the game for now.


This

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 08:24 PM
^Thems.

If our best athletes cared 1/10th as much about soccer as the rest of the World does, we'd be unstoppable at soccer. Luckily for 'the others', most dudes don't play soccer past the 6th grade so Euro/Latin midgets run the game for now.


This isn't true. If top level football and basketball players had the archetypical body for soccer, then that's what the best soccer players around the world would look like.

Neymar is like 5'8 160 pounds.

The reason US does not compete as well in soccer is largely because young kids, even the ones who play competitive soccer, do not WATCH high level competitive soccer. Therefore the nuance in the game is not engrained in them as young. As a kid you just run around and kick the ball.

If you watched the US in last world cup, it's obvious we do not pass and possess the ball like other teams. That's because you have to really study how that's done at a young age, which kids in all other countries do. They don't study it consciously, but rather unconsciously by going and watching the sport played professionally. In the US, nobody watches soccer, so we our kids are not conditioned for the sport the same way.

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 08:25 PM
Is soccer big in Japan?

I think they're a baseball country

I dont know, but my point is there are probably a lot more soccer leagues for young girls in Japan than in Honduras, simply due to economics. Just like in America.

Boys play soccer early on in every country. The amount of resources put into supporting girls soccer is probably much higher proportionally in developed countries.

pinhead
07-05-2015, 08:26 PM
Only England are great at both.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 08:35 PM
Neymar is like 5'8 160 pounds.



A giant amongst his Latin brethren, but average where bald eagles reign.

I could look out my window right now and see 30 dudes that size. Trick is to get them to put down their basketballs and/or blunts and start playing futbol.

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 08:49 PM
A giant amongst his Latin brethren, but average where bald eagles reign.

I could look out my window right now and see 30 dudes that size. Trick is to get them to put down their basketballs and/or blunts and start playing futbol.

http://shopmyclosetproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/u-s-mens-national-soccer-team.jpg

Well our current team isn't exactly lacking in height nor the celebrated fast-twitch muscle fibers.

And I agree that the US of A+ does not lack international soccer success due to inability. If our kids were ingrained in the soccer culture the way they are in other countries, our World Cup record would be as spotless as our World War record.

But our kids do not learn the game the same way they do in Brazil and Germany, because kids do not watch professionals play. I know this first hand, having played high-level club soccer throughout my youth. The nuance of soccer gets culturally ingrained in foreign kids at a really young age. In America, kids just sign up and play with little instruction, and then we start pooling the best athletes from the club level around 11 or 12 and start trying to train them to play together. It's just not the same as kids watching professional soccer from age 5 and playing together during recess and imitating the players they see and all that.

We also have an emphasis in America on individualism over teamwork, which is why even in basketball there are countries that can hang with the US despite severe population/athletic disadvantages. America does not have a team sport mentality. If it did... oh my lawd. There wouldn't even be a point to us competing. Every game in every sport would be over before it started :lebroncry:

Hawker
07-05-2015, 08:50 PM
You still talking shit after England choked twice this week?

Also, didnt US men made it further than England last year World Cup?

USA has done as good as or better than England since 2002 world cup.

USA finished top of the group that they both shared in 2010.

If USA is bad at mens soccer than England must be abysmal.

lakers_forever
07-05-2015, 08:50 PM
^Thems.

If our best athletes cared 1/10th as much about soccer as the rest of the World does, we'd be unstoppable at soccer. Luckily for 'the others', most dudes don't play soccer past the 6th grade so Euro/Latin midgets run the game for now.

The likes of Lebron and Kobe would suck. Too tall. Kobe grew up in Italy, played soccer as a child and looks clumsy as hell shooting the ball.
The tallest legendary player I can think of is Ibra and he is 6'5. No legendary player in the hystory of the game over 6'5 and I can't think of any other even 6'4 or 6'3. See the pattern? Brazilian nba players all dreamed to be footballers, but could not make it...

lakers_forever
07-05-2015, 08:53 PM
USA has done as good as or better than England since 2002 world cup.

USA finished top of the group that they both shared in 2010.

If USA is bad at mens soccer than England must be abysmal.

Yet, guys like Lampard, Beckham, Owen, Gerrard, Rooney, Terry would all be considered GOAT USA player if they were american.

Please, let's not pretend US is near England as a football power. And no, I'm not british. I'm brazilian.

tpols
07-05-2015, 08:54 PM
This isn't true. If top level football and basketball players had the archetypical body for soccer, then that's what the best soccer players around the world would look like.

Neymar is like 5'8 160 pounds.

The reason US does not compete as well in soccer is largely because young kids, even the ones who play competitive soccer, do not WATCH high level competitive soccer. Therefore the nuance in the game is not engrained in them as young. As a kid you just run around and kick the ball.

If you watched the US in last world cup, it's obvious we do not pass and possess the ball like other teams. That's because you have to really study how that's done at a young age, which kids in all other countries do. They don't study it consciously, but rather unconsciously by going and watching the sport played professionally. In the US, nobody watches soccer, so we our kids are not conditioned for the sport the same way.

In the US all our sports are individualized, 1 on 1 BRO !

In Europe and other countries it's much more about the team and intelligent play amongst each other.


I don't think soccer lends itself to just giving the ball to a giant and telling him to plow everybody over and score ala basketball and footvall.. it takes more nuance and finesse us super athletes can't comprehend.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 08:55 PM
Yet, guys like Lampard, Beckham, Owen, Gerrard, Rooney, Terry would all be considered GOAT USA player if they were american.

Please, let's not pretend US is near England as a football power. And no, I'm not british. I'm brazilian.
http://cdn.sbisoccer.com/images/2012/10/LandonDonovanSTripes-ISIPhotos.com_.jpg

This guy is fovever our goat :bowdown:

pinhead
07-05-2015, 08:55 PM
USA has done as good as or better than England since 2002 world cup.

USA finished top of the group that they both shared in 2010.

If USA is bad at mens soccer than England must be abysmal.

England made the Quarter Finals in 2006 when USA got humiliated in the group stage you jackass.

Hawker
07-05-2015, 08:56 PM
Yet, guys like Lampard, Beckham, Owen, Gerrard, Rooney, Terry would all be considered GOAT USA player if they were american.

Please, let's not pretend US is near England as a football power. And no, I'm not british. I'm brazilian.

That's great.

How do they perform as a team? I'm talking about team accomplishments here buddy.

Rooney has done **** all for England.

Hawker
07-05-2015, 08:58 PM
England made the Quarter Finals in 2006 when USA got humiliated in the group stage you jackass.

Yeah true. Kinda like England last year.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 08:58 PM
I don't think soccer lends itself to just giving the ball to a giant and telling him to plow everybody over and score ala basketball and footvall.. it takes more nuance and finesse us super athletes can't comprehend.

Iverson was 5'11" 165 lbs soaking wet. Hand/foot/eye coordination off the charts.

Give him a soccer ball in the crib instead of a basketball/football. They'd call him Pele on steroids. Believe that.

pinhead
07-05-2015, 08:59 PM
That's great.

How do they perform as a team?

Rooney has done **** all for England.

Rooney is about to become England's all time leading goalscorer.

You are full of shit you buttmuncher.

pinhead
07-05-2015, 09:00 PM
Yeah true. Kinda like England last year.

Why did you lie and say USA had done as well as England since 2002?

christian1923
07-05-2015, 09:00 PM
In the US all our sports are individualized, 1 on 1 BRO !

In Europe and other countries it's much more about the team and intelligent play amongst each other.


I don't think soccer lends itself to just giving the ball to a giant and telling him to plow everybody over and score ala basketball and footvall.. it takes more nuance and finesse us super athletes can't comprehend.
There's also a lot of finesse and nuance in bball and football dude

lakers_forever
07-05-2015, 09:00 PM
Iverson was 5'11" 165 lbs soaking wet. Hand/foot/eye coordination off the charts.

Give him a soccer ball in the crib instead of a basketball/football. They'd call him Pele on steroids. Believe that.

Yeah right. :lol

Hawker
07-05-2015, 09:01 PM
Rooney is about to become England's all time leading goalscorer.

You are full of shit you buttmuncher.

Scored his first ever world cup goal last year.

Donovan > Rooney in world cup performances

JimmyMcAdocious
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Why only compared to basketball players where if you're 6-2, you're short? Average height for a db is about 5-11. WR is 6-1. RB is 5-10.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Yeah right. :lol
Why not?

Hawker
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Yeah right. :lol

Don't see why that wouldn't be hard to believe. He's a ridiculous athlete and if he had similar soccer skills to basketball skills he'd be a top player.

pinhead
07-05-2015, 09:03 PM
There's also a lot of finesse and nuance in bball and football dude

There is no finesse in NFL. Just a bunch of overweight women beaters in shoulder pads.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 09:03 PM
There is no finesse in NFL. Just a bunch of overweight women beaters in shoulder pads.
It may seem that way to the uneducated

HitandRun Reggie
07-05-2015, 09:03 PM
Cus soccer is seen mostly as a sport for Children and Women.

This.
I played soccer as a child, then I started to grow up and played football in high school. Besides in high school all the girls want to get with the football players. The soccer team? Not so much....:oldlol:

CavaliersFTW
07-05-2015, 09:05 PM
Cus soccer is seen mostly as a sport for Children and Women.
Got em. :oldlol:

pinhead
07-05-2015, 09:06 PM
It may seem that way to the uneducated

American Football is not even considered a Sport to people outside America. It is like panto. More people talk about adverts than the actual game during the Superbowl.

Terrible invention.

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 09:08 PM
Why only compared to basketball players where if you're 6-2, you're short? Average height for a db is about 5-11. WR is 6-1. RB is 5-10.

The thing is, having big glutes or long arms or being really fast in a straight line doesn't really have much direct correlation with how coordinated your feet are with a soccer ball. Very similar to throwing a baseball pitch. We've seen how poorly world class athletes from other sports fair in that regard.

If you watch athletes in other sports try to play soccer, it's usually extremely cringeworthy. However, if you watch soccer players dribble a basketball, shoot a hockey puck, catch a football pass etc. they're generally pretty good at it for their size/experience level.

Manipulating an object with your feet is not natural and it's not easy to do. Usually people who can do it are extremely coordinated. Other sports rely more on a balance of strength and coordination.

christian1923
07-05-2015, 09:10 PM
American Football is not even considered a Sport to people outside America. It is like panto. More people talk about adverts than the actual game during the Superbowl.

Terrible invention.
that's the great part about America, we don't care

Your people would die to live here and make 8 bucks an hour washing the compression shorts of our football players.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 09:12 PM
Don't see why that wouldn't be hard to believe. He's a ridiculous athlete and if he had similar soccer skills to basketball skills he'd be a top player.

Yup. Iverson was also a football star who played QB, DB, KR and was named Virginia's top football player while leading his squad to the State title as a Junior. He had a scholarship to Notre Dame waiting for him before he got into legal trouble.

He has proven he can be elite at 2 different sports... but for some unknown reason he wouldn't be in a third had he devoted his life to it? Because...

christian1923
07-05-2015, 09:12 PM
The thing is, having big glutes or long arms or being really fast in a straight line doesn't really have much direct correlation with how coordinated your feet are with a soccer ball. Very similar to throwing a baseball pitch. We've seen how poorly world class athletes from other sports fair in that regard.

If you watch athletes in other sports try to play soccer, it's usually extremely cringeworthy. However, if you watch soccer players dribble a basketball, shoot a hockey puck, catch a football pass etc. they're generally pretty good at it for their size/experience level.

Manipulating an object with your feet is not natural and it's not easy to do. Usually people who can do it are extremely coordinated. Other sports rely more on a balance of strength and coordination.
Then You would just train differently

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 09:14 PM
There is no finesse in NFL. Just a bunch of overweight women beaters in shoulder pads.

:facepalm

Guys like Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, and Megatron would run circles around some of the Euro midgets you consider top tier athletes. :lol

pinhead
07-05-2015, 09:16 PM
that's the great part about America, we don't care

Your people would die to live here and make 8 bucks an hour washing the compression shorts of our football players.

I probably would if it meant I would be free.

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 09:18 PM
Yup. Iverson was also a football star who played QB, DB, KR and was named Virginia's top football player while leading his squad to the State title as a Junior. He had a scholarship to Notre Dame waiting for him before he got into legal trouble.

He has proven he can be elite at 2 different sports... but for some unknown reason he wouldn't be in a third had he devoted his life to it? Because...


Iverson probably would have been a very good soccer player if he'd gotten involved with it at a young age, judging by his coordinative skills. Same with Michael Vick. Same with Steve Nash who is known as a pretty good soccer player. But that doesn't mean Amir Johnson or Darelle Revis would be. Most elite athletes in football and basketball are built for their specific sports. But of course there are some guys in each sport that are just fantastic all around athletes.

sweggeh
07-05-2015, 09:19 PM
:facepalm

Guys like Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, and Megatron would run circles around some of the Euro midgets you consider top tier athletes. :lol

You dont know shit about football.

Look at this dude thinking all you have to be is big muscular and black and you excel at every sport :oldlol:

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 09:23 PM
You dont know shit about football.

Look at this dude thinking all you have to be is big muscular and black and you excel at every sport :oldlol:

Who said they had to be muscular? :confusedshrug:

Obviously they would train differently if they were playing a different sport. They'd still have all of their natural abilities though.

The hypothetical is that they've been playing/training for soccer since their youth, not just taking off their pads and running with the midgets.

But even if they did, they'd still do better at soccer than Messi or Neymar would at football. That'd be hilarious to see though, can't lie :lol

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 09:32 PM
Who said they had to be muscular? :confusedshrug:

Obviously they would train differently if they were playing a different sport. They'd still have all of their natural abilities though.

The hypothetical is that they've been playing/training for soccer since their youth, not just taking off their pads and running with the midgets.

But even if they did, they'd still do better at soccer than Messi or Neymar would at football. That'd be hilarious to see though, can't lie :lol


Might look something like this:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/bf/13/bcbf138548598f46afba5c2b75375bb7.jpg

sweggeh
07-05-2015, 09:33 PM
Who said they had to be muscular? :confusedshrug:

Obviously they would train differently if they were playing a different sport. They'd still have all of their natural abilities though.

The hypothetical is that they've been playing/training for soccer since their youth, not just taking off their pads and running with the midgets.

But even if they did, they'd still do better at soccer than Messi or Neymar would at football. That'd be hilarious to see though, can't lie :lol

Never in the history of football has a guy with their skill sets been a star at the sport. And MANY guys with their skill sets (height strength and speed) have played the game.

They just do not match up well. They would never even make it into the pro leagues, let alone reach legend status.

Messi and Neymar would such at NFL. But I could see someone like Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain doing well. Dude got that crazy speed and strong running back body.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 09:38 PM
Might look something like this:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/bf/13/bcbf138548598f46afba5c2b75375bb7.jpg

:lebronamazed:

Exception to the rule doe.


Never in the history of football has a guy with their skill sets been a star at the sport. And MANY guys with their skill sets (height strength and speed) have played the game.

:Whatever:

Post names and 40 times.

Imagine this kind of footwork, coordination, speed, and agility (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ4i79HT5hI) set towards soccer and nothing else. LAWD.

Bandito
07-05-2015, 09:38 PM
Only England are great at both.
England is a soccer country and they are worse than US at it.

tpols
07-05-2015, 09:43 PM
Iverson was 5'11" 165 lbs soaking wet. Hand/foot/eye coordination off the charts.

Give him a soccer ball in the crib instead of a basketball/football. They'd call him Pele on steroids. Believe that.

I can imagine AI running up the field signaling everybody off.. try crossing his guy up back and forth for 10-15 seconds before launching a shot from side/mid field while fading away out of bounds

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Allen_Iverson_headshot.jpg

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 09:43 PM
England is a soccer country and they are worse than US at it.


This.

I like England and a lot of stuff about the English culturally, but let's serious. The British decline is real, in like all facets of everything. One of the GOAT peaks in civilization history, but now just lookin like Shaq with the Celtics :facepalm

Meanwhile USA still on our Duncan shit, still goin strong :rockon:

sweggeh
07-05-2015, 09:44 PM
:lebronamazed:

Exception to the rule doe.



:Whatever:

Post names and 40 times.

Imagine this kind of footwork, coordination, speed, and agility (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ4i79HT5hI) set towards soccer and nothing else. LAWD.

Yeah, cause thats gonna help when you have a ball at your feet. :rolleyes:

Chad Ochocinco actually tried to become a "soccer" player once. Didn't work out. :oldlol:

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 09:47 PM
Iverson was 5'11" 165 lbs soaking wet. Hand/foot/eye coordination off the charts.

Give him a soccer ball in the crib instead of a basketball/football. They'd call him Pele on steroids. Believe that.


That's probably even being generous, quite honestly. I'd be stunned if him or CP3 stood any taller than 5'10 flat footed.

imnew09
07-05-2015, 09:47 PM
If nigguh dedicate their time playing soccer or futbol w/e they we owning the world but fk that diving abd flopping shyt

Droid101
07-05-2015, 09:50 PM
Prime AI would be the greatest striker in the history of the sport.

Someone like Kawai Leonard might be the best goalie ever.

This topic is stupid.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 09:53 PM
I can imagine AI running up the field signaling everybody off.. try crossing his guy up back and forth for 10-15 seconds before launching a shot from side/mid field while fading away out of bounds

The American way. Freedom Ball.

http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/uploads/EagleCrying.bmp


Yeah, cause thats gonna help when you have a ball at your feet. :rolleyes:

Euro midgets never seen that type of speed, agility, and coordination in their lives. Train them from the crib and we win every world cup from now until infinity. Our Women already got the ball rolling.


Chad Ochocinco actually tried to become a "soccer" player once. Didn't work out. :oldlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVFWQQwyvJQ

Dude played professional soccer during his down time waiting for the NFL season to start. Hadn't played since he was a little kid, like every other straight man/non Lesbian woman in America.

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 09:53 PM
Prime AI would be the greatest striker in the history of the sport.

Someone like Kawai Leonard might be the best goalie ever.

This topic is stupid.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VCOwoV9lMbo/VSbtwewe6dI/AAAAAAAAAuk/1j8X1aBIWQs/s72-c/exasperated.gif

dude77
07-05-2015, 10:08 PM
a lot of dumb mkers in this thread :hammerhead:

KingBeasley08
07-05-2015, 10:13 PM
Soccer is considered a girl's game here. Or it was for the longest time, I guess things are changing a bit now. But when I was growing up, anyone who played soccer past elementary school was a wuss

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 10:18 PM
Soccer is considered a girl's game here. Or it was for the longest time, I guess things are changing a bit now. But when I was growing up, anyone who played soccer past elementary school was a wuss

That's what these guys:

https://thediaryofahappywhitegirl.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/fat-packer-fan.jpg


Had to tell themselves bc they knew they could never be these guys:

http://www.herinterest.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/30-Hottest-Soccer-Players-Of-All-Time_10.jpg

warriorfan
07-05-2015, 10:31 PM
It's weird. It's the same with Japan. Why cant their men produce the same results?

Because soccer is a girls sport.

KendrickPerkins
07-05-2015, 10:55 PM
Iverson was 5'11" 165 lbs soaking wet. Hand/foot/eye coordination off the charts.

Give him a soccer ball in the crib instead of a basketball/football. They'd call him Pele on steroids. Believe that.
Exactly.

Kids don't play soccer around here. It's as simple as that. Even if they have the body type for soccer they will be playing baseball, basketball, football, and even golf/tennis instead. FACT.

KendrickPerkins
07-05-2015, 10:58 PM
That's what these guys:

https://thediaryofahappywhitegirl.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/fat-packer-fan.jpg


Had to tell themselves bc they knew they could never be these guys:

http://www.herinterest.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/30-Hottest-Soccer-Players-Of-All-Time_10.jpg
Nor did they want to be.

Sports where you can use your hands are way more desired, and a lot funner. Plus ESPN doesn't care about soccer, so no one watches or wants to play it.

TonyMontana
07-05-2015, 11:08 PM
Doesn't explain why Japanese women are so much better in soccer on a consistent basis than the men.

I have a feeling it has more to do with the opportunity women get in first world countries. Men play sports from a young age in all countries, rich or poor. Women, perhaps not so much.

Yeah. The only people that allow their women to play sports are whites and asians. look at the US team for example. The womens team is all whites for the most part, while most of the guys on the mens team are blacks or hispanics.

latins, mongrels, and africans are primitive in comparison, and all the women are seen as is a tube to stick your dick in. so they dont get the same oppurtunities to have "sports careers". a lot of guys actually think like this. all you have to do to realize this is replay a conversation you had about womens sports with some guy. USually the conversation goes straight to "yo man which of the girls would you ***?" absolutely degenerate.


Cause our best athletes play baseball, football, and basketball.

Just because your a good football player doesn't mean you'd be a good soccer player. They are completely different. There is much more to "Soccer" than "being athletic".


You dont know shit about football.

Look at this dude thinking all you have to be is big muscular and black and you excel at every sport :oldlol:

LOL. this ****ing spot on.

****ing morons think all there is to sports is being big and black. Maybe if you only watch two ****ing sports(NBA and NFL which are what gets propagated the most to the youth in USA). Also funny how Africa with all of their "big black guys" are always blown away at international competition at all events.

TonyMontana
07-05-2015, 11:14 PM
With American men, there is also a big emphasis on being "big, manly, drinking beer, and eating buffalo wings". Skinny people are often times made fun of over people that are overweight.

obviously this mindset extends into the whole Soccer vs Football when preferences.

With football you can be chubby, overweight, and still play it/identify with the players.

Soccer has no pauses, and you MUST be in shape to play it. Not just go all out for 7 seconds and then rest for a minute.

Akrazotile
07-05-2015, 11:24 PM
With American men, there is also a big emphasis on being "big, manly, drinking beer, and eating buffalo wings". Skinny people are often times made fun of over people that are overweight.

obviously this mindset extends into the whole Soccer vs Football when preferences.

With football you can be chubby, overweight, and still play it/identify with the players.

Soccer has no pauses, and you MUST be in shape to play it. Not just go all out for 7 seconds and then rest for a minute.

Im gonna leave some of that other stuff alone but I do agree with you on this. In fact I believe the reason soccer players are the best looking athletes is because evolutionary perception of beauty is largely linked to health and virility. As you said, you have to be really healthy to play competitive soccer. There's no Prince Fielders or Jared Lorenzens.

Obviously not all countries have the most handsome futbollers. Portugal's team is pretty ugly sans Ronaldo, and even America is kind of hit and miss. But generally speaking, soccer players are the best looking guys. Even the TV analysts tend to be the most well spoken. Soccer is basically just the litmus test for how cultured, aesthetic, and alpha a person is. Hashtag dealwithit.

Norcaliblunt
07-05-2015, 11:25 PM
Lol. Iverson was never even the best basketball player in the NBA during his prime, but yet somehow he's going to be the best soccer player of all time? Lol.

ALBballer
07-05-2015, 11:30 PM
Soccer is one of the if not the biggest sports for girls/women in the US. The best female athletes play soccer, thus, the combination of best selection of female athletes and solid american soccer institutions from a young age has lead to sucess.

On the men's side, most kids play basketball, football, baseball, hockey etc. and there aren't many competitive leagues for men and kids in the youth leagues. In europe, kids are being scouted at a young age and put in more competitive leagues where emphasis is put on skills. Kids in Europe also play professional at younger age which helps in the development as well. I remember a dutch coach stating that the development of skills for youngsters in the United States was lightyears behind those in Europe.

I don't agree with the typical american fan that thinks "OMG Dwight Howard and Anthony Davis would dominate lulz" because the United States soccer team is athletic. Better athletes wouldn't make the team better but more emphasis needs to be put on development of soccer players at a younger age.

Even in Basketball many Americans are not not taught fundamentals and skills compared to the players in Europe (thanks AAU.) But fortunately for us America can dominate Basketball since athleticism and individual play are huge in basketball. In soccer, being the most athletic team or having the best player is not as important.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 11:33 PM
Obviously not all countries have the most handsome futbollers. Portugal's team is pretty ugly sans Ronaldo, and even America is kind of hit and miss. But generally speaking, soccer players are the best looking guys. Even the TV analysts tend to be the most well spoken. Soccer is basically just the litmus test for how cultured, aesthetic, and alpha a person is. Hashtag dealwithit.

You call these tiny metrosexuals 'alpha'? :biggums:

Put these nigguhs on a stage and tell people they're One Direction and no one would bat an eye.

http://www.heyespectaculos.com/images/famosos/internacionales/Cristiano_Ronaldo_es_Metrosexual_Gay.jpg

http://static.barmetrosexual.com/2013/01/roupa-do-neymar-e1357573631369.jpg

And people wonder why women worldwide are going crazy over silverback gorillas these days :yaohappy:

ALBballer
07-05-2015, 11:39 PM
You call these tiny metrosexuals 'alpha'? :biggums:

Put these nigguhs on a stage and tell people they're One Direction and no one would bat an eye.

http://www.heyespectaculos.com/images/famosos/internacionales/Cristiano_Ronaldo_es_Metrosexual_Gay.jpg

http://static.barmetrosexual.com/2013/01/roupa-do-neymar-e1357573631369.jpg

And people wonder why women worldwide are going crazy over silverback gorillas these days :yaohappy:

YEs because this is alpha, right lol

http://www.jockington.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Russell-Westbrook-Shirt.jpg

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/52092115eab8eaf52b00000a/russell-westbrooks-teen-choice-awards-outfit-is-a-bad-sign-for-the-future-of-nba-fashion.jpg

https://goodgarbs.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/20140220-130155.jpg

http://www.refinedguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/17-dwyane-wade-fashion-bright-red-pants.jpeg

http://www.refinedguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/3-dwyane-wade-fashion-funny-flower-jacket-versace.png

http://jerseygirlsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/K_Durant.jpg

Gone are the day of the thug scary looking guys in the NBA.

DonDadda59
07-05-2015, 11:41 PM
YEs because this is alpha, right lol

Gone are the day of the thug scary looking guys in the NBA.

The NBA has lost its way, I can't vouch for these clowns in this the weakest of eras :facepalm

But they are all at least taller than 5'5".

I played ball with a few players from Manchester City and towered over most of them and I'm not even that tall. Dudes were uncoordinated as f*ck too.

TonyMontana
07-05-2015, 11:42 PM
Im gonna leave some of that other stuff alone but I do agree with you on this. In fact I believe the reason soccer players are the best looking athletes is because evolutionary perception of beauty is largely linked to health and virility. As you said, you have to be really healthy to play competitive soccer. There's no Prince Fielders or Jared Lorenzens.

Obviously not all countries have the most handsome futbollers. Portugal's team is pretty ugly sans Ronaldo, and even America is kind of hit and miss. But generally speaking, soccer players are the best looking guys. Even the TV analysts tend to be the most well spoken. Soccer is basically just the litmus test for how cultured, aesthetic, and alpha a person is. Hashtag dealwithit.

Yes! I agree. Soccer players are easily the best looking, I would say for both men and women, not just one. Even when you look at the analyst of "former players" they absolutely blow away the ex football, hockey, baseball, etc. players.

somewhere along the line american men got this idea that if your not at least 200 pounds your a "*****" when unless your frame is massive you are in reality probably chubby. even if you are "strong" lots of football, hockey, baseball, basketball players are not attractive, both the men and women.


Soccer is one of the if not the biggest sports for girls/women in the US. The best female athletes play soccer, thus, the combination of best selection of female athletes and solid american soccer institutions from a young age has lead to sucess.

On the men's side, most kids play basketball, football, baseball, hockey etc. and there aren't many competitive leagues for men and kids in the youth leagues. In europe, kids are being scouted at a young age and put in more competitive leagues where emphasis is put on skills. Kids in Europe also play professional at younger age which helps in the development as well. I remember a dutch coach stating that the development of skills for youngsters in the United States was lightyears behind those in Europe.

I don't agree with the typical american fan that thinks "OMG Dwight Howard and Anthony Davis would dominate lulz" because the United States soccer team is athletic. Better athletes wouldn't make the team better but more emphasis needs to be put on development of soccer players at a younger age.

Even in Basketball many Americans are not not taught fundamentals and skills compared to the players in Europe (thanks AAU.) But fortunately for us America can dominate Basketball since athleticism and individual play are huge in basketball. In soccer, being the most athletic team or having the best player is not as important.

I have one more note for all the people that go "HURR DURR if all our best black guys played soccer we'd be the best!"

If the excuse is that basketball and football are taking your best athletes(aka all the big athletic black guys!) how is it that the womens team is so successfull despite only having 1 or 2 black women on the team? their team is nearly all white, and aside from QBs, offensive lineman, and shooters I don't see the NFL/NBA taking many talented "whites" away from soccer. I'm not even going to touch on baseball because it is just COMPLETELY different than a sport like soccer that the two have literally no correlation at all.

ALBballer
07-05-2015, 11:51 PM
The NBA has lost its way, I can't vouch for these clowns in this the weakest of eras :facepalm

But they are all at least taller than 5'5".

I played ball with a few players from Manchester City and towered over most of them and I'm not even that tall. Dudes were uncoordinated as f*ck too.

Yeah I'm just ****ing around. NBA has gone way overboard with this this new fashion style.

Soccer is a tough sport man. I can play basketball, football and a little baseball but put me on a soccer field and I would get embarrassed by people half my size. Football is one of those sports that can be picked up from a late age and there are even basketball players that can pick it up late if they have the height. But soccer relies less on athleticism and is more of a combination of skills and athleticism. TBH there is so much skilled involved in soccer that it takes a lifetime to learn the game properly from a young age. Iniesta is a balding midget but he is a magician with the ball. Beckham still played well in the MLS in his late 30s because he had fantastic skills. These guys are far from stellar athletes.

PS:

There are some really athletic American soccer players. Chris Klute supposedly runs a 4.3 (probably exaggerated) and is 6'1"-6'2". Who is Chris klute? exactly my point.

Hawker
07-05-2015, 11:53 PM
Soccer players are lean and muscular...they have great physiques and know many women who think that they have the best of all athletes.

Cristiano Ronaldo would get ***** anywhere he goes...also Americans dress like shit (bad fashion sense) so what's metrosexual to you is actually called wearing clothes that fit you.

Plus, I think they'll stick with the european women as the average american girl is fat.

bdreason
07-06-2015, 03:18 AM
Because we empower our women. It's both a blessing and a curse.





Also, like others have said, by the time you hit middle school, if you have any physical talents, you're probably playing Basketball, Baseball, or Football. I was already 5'10" in 6th grade, and I played youth soccer... but I also dominated at Basketball, and the middle school coach was quick to recruit me to the team and turn my focus on to solely basketball.


I think we may have more niche sports in the U.S. as well. For example, I live by the beach, and our HS's have Surf teams. A lot of kids in this area also play sports like Lacrosse, Beach Volleyball, and Tennis.

GimmeThat
07-06-2015, 06:44 AM
this has something to do with peoples ability to utilize the term 'designated' doesn't it.

AlphaWolf24
07-07-2015, 12:42 AM
http://media3.fcbarcelona.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/057/500/original/kobecoveri.v1372069436.jpg

what if....fair to say Kobe would cover all the bases of bieng a soccer megastar.....and leading team US to Gold once again.

Goon Time
07-07-2015, 02:11 AM
The tallest legendary player I can think of is Ibra and he is 6'5. No legendary player in the hystory of the game over 6'5 and I can't think of any other even 6'4 or 6'3.

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/sw10WbAVNV5I21vnVxM9CKtiwXY=/5x0:627x350/1600x900/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/33710953/Peter_Crouch_robot.0.gif

oarabbus
07-07-2015, 02:14 AM
No one cares about Women's Soccer. People barely care about Men's Soccer, and even less about Women's, so I'm not really sure.

I saw a vid where a guy asked, would you rather your local Women's soccer team win the championship, or find $5 bucks on the ground? Everyone went with the $5.

Jailblazers7
07-07-2015, 07:55 AM
Our top athletic talent pursuing other sports is clearly a part of it but skill development definitely lags in the US. It's probably a feedback loop where resources aren't poured into soccer because top talent don't care and vice versa. And of course the lack of a lucrative pro league in the US is important.

Derka
07-07-2015, 08:05 AM
If we had a professional soccer league that was competitive financially with the NBA, MLB and NHL (can't compare the NFL, that's on another level financially...another stratosphere, even), soccer would be massive over here. A soccer league that could make national, even regional superstars...pay you on level with those three leagues...would probably give the game the recruiting push it needs to convince A LOT more kids to stick with it past the youth level.