Larry Bird - 1981 Finals (All Points + Passing & Rebounding)

[Round Mound]

Isn't 15.3 points, 15.3 rebounds and 7 assists per game one of the coolest statlines for an NBA playoff series ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpRWgezvXCA

:bowdown:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Up there with 08 KG and 05 Manu as the biggest FMVP robberies ever

[Round Mound]

Up there with 08 KG and 05 Manu as the biggest FMVP robberies ever

:applause:

[SouBeachTalents]

Up there with 08 KG and 05 Manu as the biggest FMVP robberies ever

Two bigger FMVP robberies were Kareem in '80 and Magic in '88

[ArbitraryWater]

Up there with 08 KG and 05 Manu as the biggest FMVP robberies ever

If anyone got robbed in 2008, it was probably Allen.. anyway, all 3 had a solid argument, wouldnt call anyone getting robbed that year.

[RRR3]

LeBron would get murdered for that statline

[KirbyPls]

LeBron would get murdered for that statline

:applause: Exactly.

But Bird > Lebron doe. :rolleyes:

[SouBeachTalents]

LeBron would get murdered for that statline

He's getting murdered for putting up 36/13/9

[RRR3]

He's getting murdered for putting up 36/13/9
Bird has better longevity doe




Oh wait



:yaohappy:

[Milbuck]

Wonder how badly Kobe or Lebron would get shredded if they put up 3 games of 8, 8, and 12 points in a row in the finals.

[TheBigVeto]

The only bigger FMVP robbery was Kareem in '80.

FTFY

[KirbyPls]

Wonder how badly Kobe or Lebron would get shredded if they put up 3 games of 8, 8, and 12 points in a row in the finals.

I don't know, but 36-13-9 is garbage and 15-15-7 is amazing.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Damn, what an upload :applause: :bowdown:
Cool statline that nobody ever pulled in a Finals series - nor his triple-double in 1986.

Very rarely you see a superstar hustling and being as physical as Larry Bird was in that series, take notes...
Young Bird was an extremely gritty mf'er (even more than later on).

Said it many times before, with all due repect to Cornbread Maxwell, Larry clearly was the FMVP on that one...
Main reasons why he didn't take it was because he was very aloof towards the media those days, major no-****s-given attitude while Cedric was the opposite; plus back then you wouldn't even see total rebounds/assists for single players in most boxscores.

Bird played great D, hustled all out, he was easily the best playmaker for the series, 2nd best rebounder (almost rebounded as much as prime Moses), 3rd best scorer... And despite not being consistent with his scoring/shooting, he had some great games, was very clutch, and was the one who closed out the series with a great/clutch game6.

LB was definitely the most important, most valuable player for the winning team, the Celtics.
And Max benefited a lot from all the attention Bird was getting while Larry was setting him up for a lot of bunnies.

Same "situation", at least a decade or so later on? There's no way they don't attribute Bird with the FMVP...

[RRR3]

Wonder how badly Kobe or Lebron would get shredded if they put up 3 games of 8, 8, and 12 points in a row in the finals.
We'd never hear the end of it.

Bird>>>>>Kobe and Bran doe

[KirbyPls]

We'd never hear the end of it.

Bird>>>>>Kobe and Bran doe

Obviously. :applause:

[SHAQisGOAT]

LeBron would get murdered for that statline

:rolleyes:

-Sophomore player leading his team to a ring, main-man from the get-go (and should've gotten FMVP, would've nowadays).

-Team that was SHITTY and falling apart just a couple of years previously, right before he got there.

-Doing it with basically the same core roster as they had before, new coach and only main addition being Cowens "replaced" by Robert Parish who was already 27 when he joined and not viewed as much.

-Going to the Finals after leading his team from a 3-1 deficit against the best team that year, WHILE outplaying the league's MVP, Dr J.

Now, go look at LeBron's 1st Finals, please :rolleyes: :roll:

Shit, go look at PRIME LeBron's Finals right after joining two ALREADY established superstars in the league (one a top3/5 player)...
Compare it to prime Bird's Finals :yaohappy:

And then Bron bounced yet again... Bird stuck through thick and thin, built from the ground up, was 3/5 in the Finals - opposite to James 2/6 - in a tougher league in a MUCH tougher Conference...

What are we talking about here again? GTFOH :facepalm

[KirbyPls]

:rolleyes:

-Sophomore player leading his team to a ring, main-man from the get-go (and should've gotten FMVP, would've nowadays).

-Team that was SHITTY and falling apart just a couple of years previously, right before he got there.

-Doing it with basically the same core roster as they had before, new coach and only main addition being Cowens "replaced" by Robert Parish who was already 27 when he joined and not viewed as much.

-Going to the Finals after leading his team from a 3-1 deficit against the best team that year, WHILE outplaying the league's MVP, Dr J.

Now, go look at LeBron's 1st Finals, please :rolleyes: :roll:

Shit, go look at PRIME LeBron's Finals right after joining two ALREADY established superstars in the league (one a top3/5 player)...
Compare it to prime Bird's Finals :yaohappy:

And then Bron bounced yet again... Bird stuck through thick and thin, built from the ground up, was 3/5 in the Finals - opposite to James 2/6 - in a tougher league in a MUCH tougher Conference...

What are we talking about here again? GTFOH :facepalm


Lots of excuses for a guy with one more ring, same Finals MVPs, better career supporting casts and worse defense and stats.

15-15-7 Doe!

[RRR3]

:rolleyes:

-Sophomore player leading his team to a ring, main-man from the get-go (and should've gotten FMVP, would've nowadays).

-Team that was SHITTY and falling apart just a couple of years previously, right before he got there.

-Doing it with basically the same core roster as they had before, new coach and only main addition being Cowens "replaced" by Robert Parish who was already 27 when he joined and not viewed as much.

-Going to the Finals after leading his team from a 3-1 deficit against the best team that year, WHILE outplaying the league's MVP, Dr J.

Now, go look at LeBron's 1st Finals, please :rolleyes: :roll:

Shit, go look at PRIME LeBron's Finals right after joining two ALREADY established superstars in the league (one a top3/5 player)...
Compare it to prime Bird's Finals :yaohappy:

And then Bron bounced yet again... Bird stuck through thick and thin, built from the ground up, was 3/5 in the Finals - opposite to James 2/6 - in a tougher league in a MUCH tougher Conference...

What are we talking about here again? GTFOH :facepalm

Trying to sound like an "unbiased rational poster"

-Blames LeBron for 07. Bird in 81 is goat doe.

-Uses 2/6 argument


:yaohappy:

[ArbitraryWater]

this the series where he had back to back 8 point games

[RRR3]

Robert Parish wasn't anything special.


Chris Bosh=superstar



Unbiased doe :yaohappy:

[KirbyPls]

Robert Parish wasn't anything special.


Chris Bosh=superstar



Unbiased doe :yaohappy:

:applause:

[KirbyPls]

this the series where he had back to back 8 point games

Greatest 8 point games anyone has ever played doe!

[Milbuck]

:rolleyes:

-Sophomore player leading his team to a ring, main-man from the get-go (and should've gotten FMVP, would've nowadays).

-Team that was SHITTY and falling apart just a couple of years previously, right before he got there.

-Doing it with basically the same core roster as they had before, new coach and only main addition being Cowens "replaced" by Robert Parish who was already 27 when he joined and not viewed as much.

-Going to the Finals after leading his team from a 3-1 deficit against the best team that year, WHILE outplaying the league's MVP, Dr J.

Now, go look at LeBron's 1st Finals, please :rolleyes: :roll:

Shit, go look at PRIME LeBron's Finals right after joining two ALREADY established superstars in the league (one a top3/5 player)...
Compare it to prime Bird's Finals :yaohappy:

And then Bron bounced yet again... Bird stuck through thick and thin, built from the ground up, was 3/5 in the Finals - opposite to James 2/6 - in a tougher league in a MUCH tougher Conference...

What are we talking about here again? GTFOH :facepalm

Lebron got torn apart and pissed on by the media and general public for that series unlike any player ever has.

And wow, props to Bird for not ditching a team with McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson, etc. How he managed to win with that ragtag team of scrubs and no names is truly remarkable.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Wonder how badly Kobe or Lebron would get shredded if they put up 3 games of 8, 8, and 12 points in a row in the finals.

Look at this boxscore watcher... Never even seen nothing from those Finals yet talks shit :rolleyes: :facepalm

1st one of those 8-points games? Bird also had 13 rebounds, 10 assists, 5 steals and 2 blocks. Nobody had what you call a great scoring game.
^Celtics won that one in a blowout... Guess Larry should've just stayed in and statpadded his scoring numbers kinda like LeBron does, huh? :confusedshrug:

12-points game he posted 12 rebounds and 8 assists too, major impact on that one... Boston again rolled through in a blowout; shame on Bird for not staying out there to statpad those numbers :rolleyes:

How about Bird closing out the series with a 27/13/6 game6 on great efficiency, clutch af in the 4th, scoring 9 of the Boston's 11 points in the decisive late run? :confusedshrug:


Did Kobe or LeBron WIN (yea, Bird's team won) a ring in their sophomore year, as the main-man at that?

Talking shit about a player who:

-As a sophomore player led his team to a ring, alpha-dog from the get-go (and should've gotten FMVP, would've nowadays).

-Was drafted to a team that was SHITTY and falling apart right before he got there.

-Did it with basically the same core roster as they had before, new coach and only main addition being Cowens "replaced" by Robert Parish who was already 27 when he joined and not viewed as much.

-Went to the Finals after leading his team from a 3-1 deficit against the best team that year, WHILE outplaying the league's MVP, Dr J.

...

Hating on a player for actually leading his team to the title as a sophomore, a previously terrible team that didn't change their roster much at all, after outplaying the MVP in the "real" Finals, played great all-around with most attention on him, closed out the series, should've won FMVP... :rolleyes: :facepalm

Go look at LeBron's 1st Finals, for example :lol Played like shit and his team got smoked...

[RRR3]

Lebron got torn apart and pissed on by the media and general public for that series unlike any player ever has.

And wow, props to Bird for not ditching a team with McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson, etc. How he managed to win with that ragtag team of scrubs and no names is truly remarkable.
He also played with Nate Archibald. And had Bill Walton coming off the bench


Another interesting fact: Bird and LeBron have practically the same career 3PT% in the playoffs. And LeBron had a higher one until he forgot how to shoot threes for 3 rounds this year. Bird was a better shooter than Curry doe




"B-b-but Bird was more alpha than Lechoke :cry: "

[ArbitraryWater]

Bird's 8 point games are more impactful though... can you imagine him laying an ass whopping on the 2007 Spurs with those back to back 8 point games one two punch? Then follow it up with a 12 pointer? Gawd damn...

if only Bird had a capable team around him that let him take stretches of games off... :bowdown:

[RRR3]

Bird's 8 point games are more impactful though... can you imagine him laying an ass whopping on the 2007 Spurs with those back to back 8 point games one two punch? Then follow it up with a 12 pointer? Gawd damn...

if only Bird had a capable team around him that let him take stretches of games off... :bowdown:
If that didn't work, I'm sure his 32%, low volume playoff 3PT shooting would do the trick!

[RRR3]

Dat moment you realize Kobe has a better argument over LeBron than Bird does :biggums:



Gawdbe :bowdown:

[SHAQisGOAT]

Lebron got torn apart and pissed on by the media and general public for that series unlike any player ever has.

And wow, props to Bird for not ditching a team with McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson, etc. How he managed to win with that ragtag team of scrubs and no names is truly remarkable.

:biggums:

Are you legitly ignorant or just acting dumb? :wtf:

Some terrible remarks right there...

Torn apart for what series, son? 2011? Wait, now you're comparing a player in his PRIME shitting the bed and LOSING after joining two already ESTABLISHED superstars (one a top3/5 player in the league) to a SOPHOMORE who led his team to the title (actually WON), a team that was SHITTY right before he got there and didn't change much of their roster?
:biggums:
Tell me you just didn't compare that...

What are you talking about right now?
Do you realize that Bird was drafted to a team with the 2nd worst record in the legue, a franchise falling apart? Do you realize he instantly changed all of that as the main-man? With basically the same squad and new coach he led them to the best record and the ECF...
Do you realize that Parish was already 27 and not viewed as much when he joined the Celtics? Cowens gone and the main addition being the Chief... Bird leads them to the title as a sophomore. You know that right?
Do you realize DJ only joined in '84 (already past his peak even)? Do you realize McHale was DRAFTED and only started to come into his own by '84?

"And wow, props to Bird for not ditching a team with McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson, etc." - **** you even talking about? :rolleyes:

Go look at what Larry did in the '84 Playoffs, for example, also...

:facepalm

[SHAQisGOAT]

Robert Parish wasn't anything special.


Chris Bosh=superstar



Unbiased doe :yaohappy:

Please look at what they were "doing" right before each joined the Celtics/Heat... Relative to "their" league too...
Tell me about that now...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:durantunimpressed:

[RRR3]

If Shaqis...er I mean BirdisGOAT can regurgitate posts, I can too


Robert Parish wasn't anything special

Chris "Superstar" Bosh



:yaohappy:

[RRR3]

Wow Bosh put a bunch of 18-22 PPG/8-11 RPG seasons when he was the first option on teams going nowhere that have done just fine since left. Goat.

[SouBeachTalents]

Wow Bosh put a bunch of 18-22 PPG/8-11 RPG seasons when he was the first option on teams going nowhere that have done just fine since left. Goat.

Superstar doe

[SHAQisGOAT]

If Shaqis...er I mean BirdisGOAT can regurgitate posts, I can too


Robert Parish wasn't anything special

Chris "Superstar" Bosh



:yaohappy:

Right before joining the Celtics/Heat...

One was already 27, putting up 17.0/10.9/1.7/1.6 on .541 TS% with 3.1 TO's...
Never all-star, no MVP votes, no nba-teams...
Wasn't even the clear-cut #1 option on a team that finished with 58 losses!

The other was 26, had just put up 24.0/10.8/2.4/1.0 on .592 TS% with 2.4 TO's...
Multiple times all-star, 7th in MVP voting once, all-nba 2nd...
Already had led HIS team to the Playoffs at some point.


Thank me later though :lebroncry:

Wanna know the main reason why the name Robert Parish most of the time holds more weight than the name Chris Bosh, to the basketball world? Because of Larry Bird.
Even the Chief said something along those lines before...

Larry improved his teammates, all types of players, any style... While still keeping his full impact, while still remaining alpha and a great leader, while still winning...
LeBron? Not so much :oldlol:

[dubeta]

I dont even see why Bosh is considered better than Lakers Lamar Odom?

Odom could get 20/10/5 if he statpadded into the lottery



Odom and Boshs playoff stats with Kobe/LeBron are also the same


But 'Superstar' tho, according to Kobe fans

[RRR3]

I like how BirdisGOAT failed to mention Parish averaged 17/11 in 29 MPG. Per 36? 21/13


Garbage without Bird doe

[D-Wade316]

LARRY BIRD IS BY FAR THE MOST OVERRATED ALL-TIME GREAT

8, 8,12 :roll: :roll: :roll: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :biggums:

[RRR3]

Also...

It's LeBrons fault Boshs scoring volume declined when he went from option 1 to option 3. Never mind the fact that Bosh averaged something like 25/7 when Wade was out in 2012 as Brans sidekick...LeBron ball doe.


But at the same time Bird made his teammates better when it's always acknowledged McHale was far better than his stats :biggums:

[SHAQisGOAT]

I like how BirdisGOAT failed to mention Parish averaged 17/11 in 29 MPG. Per 36? 21/13


Garbage without Bird doe

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/grasping-at-straws.jpg


From the moment you base your entire argument on per36 and never even acknowledge the rest of my post while over-exaggerating my comments... I know I'm basically done here :oldlol: Thank me later though...

[RRR3]

Can you guys imagine what haters would say if LeBron or Kobe failed to win with this team:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1987.html

?????


Birds 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5 options


McHale: 26/10/3/1/2 on 60%
Parish: 18/11/2/1/2 on 54%
Ainge: 15/3/6/1/0 on 49/44/90
DJ: 13/3/8/1/1 on 44%

[kennethgriffin]

i checked basketball-reference and they dont even have the rebounding or assist stats for those games

[SHAQisGOAT]

Funny how LeBron's kiddie fanboys come up in here to hate on Larry Bird... Dude that led his team to the title as a sophomore, team that was previously shitty and didn't change much of their roster right away; LB stayed through thick and thin, built one of the GOAT dynasties from the ground up, had tremendous success when the league was at his peak...

All mad and shit that Bron will never surpass Larry, having a weaker prime, playing in a weaker league/conference, jumping ship all the time, 2/6......... :oldlol:

Stay salty though... All you can do at this point :lol

[RRR3]

i checked basketball-reference and they dont even have the rebounding or assist stats for those games
What about the "heart", "intangibles", and "nostalgia" categories? Do they have stats for those?


I'm told Bird was quite good in those areas.

[RRR3]

Funny how LeBron's kiddie fanboys come up in here to hate on Larry Bird... Dude that led his team to the title as a sophomore, team that was previously shitty and didn't change much of their roster right away; LB stayed through thick and thin What "thin"? He played with the All-Star team his entire career :oldlol: , built one of the GOAT dynasties from the ground up 3 rings, never repeated=GOAT tier dynasty+, had tremendous success when the league was at his peak Subjective...

All mad and shit that Bron will never surpass Larry Insane comment. He arguably already has, by the end of his career it won't be an argument for anyone not delusional., having a weaker primeEntirely debatable, playing in a weaker league/conference, jumping ship all the time Irrelevant to their abilities as players, 2/6 Yeah, he should have lost earlier. I like how the 6 years he didn't even make the finals are ok :lol I like how he was supposed to beat the 67 win Warriors with Dellavedova as his sidekick :facepalm Or how 14 was his fault. Or how he could possibly be expected to win in 07. "B-b-b-but LeChoke"......... :oldlol:

Stay salty though... All you can do at this point :lol

....

[Pushxx]

What you don't see that video is how much Bird was getting run at every single play. Bird showed his versatility and skill by taking a ragtag team of misfits that almost convinced Red Auerbach to leave for New York to championship victory.

[RRR3]

LeBron James



LeBron James Career Regular Season Stats so far (911 games)



39.3 MPG, 27.3 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .496/.342/.745 shooting



Some of his best statistical seasons:


2009-10: 39.0 MPG, 29.7 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 8.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, 1.0 BPG on .503/.333/.767 shooting

2011-12: 37.5 MPG, 27.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 6.2 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .531/.362/.771 shooting

2012-13: 37.9 MPG, 26.8 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 7.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .565/.406/.753 shooting

2005-06: 42.5 MPG, 31.4 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .480/.335/.738 shooting

2013-14: 37.7 MPG, 27.1 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.3 BPG on .567/.379/.750 shooting

2007-08: 40.4 MPG, 30.0 PPG (led league), 7.9 RPG, 7.2 APG, 1.8 SPG, 1.1 BPG on .484/.315/.712 shooting





LeBron James Career NBA Playoff Stats so far (178 games)



42.5 MPG, 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .473/.318/.752 shooting



Some of his most impressive playoff runs statistically:


2011-12: 23 games, 42.7 MPG, 30.3 PPG (led playoffs), 9.7 RPG, 5.6 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.7 BPG on .500/.259/.739 shooting

2008-09: 14 games, 41.4 MPG, 35.3 PPG (led playoffs), 9.1 RPG, 7.3 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .510/.333/.749 shooting

2013-14: 20 games, 38.2 MPG, 27.4 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.6 BPG on .565/.407/.806 shooting

2014-15: 20 games, 42.2 MPG, 30.1 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 8.5 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.1 BPG on .417/.227/.731 shooting

2012-13: 23 games, 41.7 MPG, 25.9 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .491/.375/.777 shooting

2009-10: 11 games, 41.8 MPG, 29.1 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 7.6 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.8 BPG on .502/.400/.733 shooting




LeBron James Awards and Accolades so far


2x NBA Champion

4x NBA MVP

2X NBA Finals MVP

11x NBA All-Star

9x All-NBA 1st Team

2x All-NBA 2nd Team

Rookie of the Year

5x All-Defensive 1st Team

1x All-Defensive 2nd Team

Led NBA in Field Goals made 4 times

Led NBA in Free Throws Made in 2008-09

Scoring Title in 2007-08

4th in NBA History in PPG

5th in NBA Playoffs History in PPG

2 30+ PPG Seasons

1x All-Star Game MVP

One of a select group of players to have 10 or more 50+ point games (he has 10).










Larry Bird




Larry Bird Career NBA Stats (897 games, in other words LBJ has already played more)


38.4 MPG, 24.3 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .496/.376/.886 shooting




Some of his best Stats in Regular Seasons


1986-87: 40.6 MPG, 28.1 PPG, 9.2 RPG, 7.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .525/.400/.910 (led NBA) shooting

1987-88: 39.0 MPG, 29.9 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .527/.414/.916 shooting

1985-86: 38.0 MPG, 25.8 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.6 BPG on .496/.423/.896 (led NBA) shooting

1984-85: 39.5 MPG, 28.7 PPG, 10.5 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, 1.2 BPG on .522/.427/.882 shooting

1983-84: 38.3 MPG, 24.2 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .492/.247/.888 (led NBA) shooting

1982-83: 37.7 MPG, 23.6 PPG, 11.0 RPG, 5.8 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .504/.286/.840 shooting



Larry Bird Career Playoff Stats (164 games, again less than LBJ. To Bird's credit he has one more ring thus far)



42.0 MPG, 23.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .472/.321/.890 shooting



Some of his most impressive Playoff runs stats wise


1985-86: 18 games, 42.8 MPG, 25.9 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 8.2 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.6 BPG on .517/.411/.927 shooting

1983-84: 23 games, 41.8 MPG, 27.5 PPG, 11.0 RPG, 5.9 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.2 BPG on .524/.412/.879 shooting

1986-87: 23 ga,es. 44.1 MPG, 27.0 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 7.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .476/.341/.912 shooting

1984-85: 20 games, 40.8 MPG, 26.0 PPG, 9.1 RPG, 5.8 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.0 BPG on .461/.280/.890 shooting

1987-88: 17 games, 44.9 MPG, 24.5 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .450/.375/.894 shooting

1980-81: 17 games, 44.1 MPG, 21.9 PPG, 14.0 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BPG on .470/.375/.894 shooting



Larry Bird Awards and Accolades


NBA Hall of Fame

3x NBA Champion

3x NBA MVP

2x NBA Finals MVP

12x NBA All-Star

9x All-NBA 1st Team

1x All-NBA 2nd Team

3x All-Defensive 2nd Team

Led NBA in 3PT FGs made twice

Led NBA in FT% 4 times

11th All-Time in NBA FT%

16th All-Time in NBA PPG

NBA 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

Number 33 retired by Celtics

1x All-Star Game MVP

3x 3Pt shootout champion






Please tell me how it's not debatable :rolleyes:

[RRR3]

LeBron James



LeBron James Career Regular Season Stats so far (911 games)



39.3 MPG, 27.3 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .496/.342/.745 shooting



Some of his best statistical seasons:


2009-10: 39.0 MPG, 29.7 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 8.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, 1.0 BPG on .503/.333/.767 shooting

2011-12: 37.5 MPG, 27.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 6.2 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .531/.362/.771 shooting

2012-13: 37.9 MPG, 26.8 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 7.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .565/.406/.753 shooting

2005-06: 42.5 MPG, 31.4 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .480/.335/.738 shooting

2013-14: 37.7 MPG, 27.1 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.3 BPG on .567/.379/.750 shooting

2007-08: 40.4 MPG, 30.0 PPG (led league), 7.9 RPG, 7.2 APG, 1.8 SPG, 1.1 BPG on .484/.315/.712 shooting





LeBron James Career NBA Playoff Stats so far (178 games)



42.5 MPG, 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .473/.318/.752 shooting



Some of his most impressive playoff runs statistically:


2011-12: 23 games, 42.7 MPG, 30.3 PPG (led playoffs), 9.7 RPG, 5.6 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.7 BPG on .500/.259/.739 shooting

2008-09: 14 games, 41.4 MPG, 35.3 PPG (led playoffs), 9.1 RPG, 7.3 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .510/.333/.749 shooting

2013-14: 20 games, 38.2 MPG, 27.4 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.6 BPG on .565/.407/.806 shooting

2014-15: 20 games, 42.2 MPG, 30.1 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 8.5 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.1 BPG on .417/.227/.731 shooting

2012-13: 23 games, 41.7 MPG, 25.9 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .491/.375/.777 shooting

2009-10: 11 games, 41.8 MPG, 29.1 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 7.6 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.8 BPG on .502/.400/.733 shooting




LeBron James Awards and Accolades so far


2x NBA Champion

4x NBA MVP

2X NBA Finals MVP

11x NBA All-Star

9x All-NBA 1st Team

2x All-NBA 2nd Team

Rookie of the Year

5x All-Defensive 1st Team

1x All-Defensive 2nd Team

Led NBA in Field Goals made 4 times

Led NBA in Free Throws Made in 2008-09

Scoring Title in 2007-08

4th in NBA History in PPG

5th in NBA Playoffs History in PPG

2 30+ PPG Seasons

1x All-Star Game MVP

One of a select group of players to have 10 or more 50+ point games (he has 10).










Larry Bird




Larry Bird Career NBA Stats (897 games, in other words LBJ has already played more)


38.4 MPG, 24.3 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .496/.376/.886 shooting




Some of his best Stats in Regular Seasons


1986-87: 40.6 MPG, 28.1 PPG, 9.2 RPG, 7.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .525/.400/.910 (led NBA) shooting

1987-88: 39.0 MPG, 29.9 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .527/.414/.916 shooting

1985-86: 38.0 MPG, 25.8 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.6 BPG on .496/.423/.896 (led NBA) shooting

1984-85: 39.5 MPG, 28.7 PPG, 10.5 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, 1.2 BPG on .522/.427/.882 shooting

1983-84: 38.3 MPG, 24.2 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .492/.247/.888 (led NBA) shooting

1982-83: 37.7 MPG, 23.6 PPG, 11.0 RPG, 5.8 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .504/.286/.840 shooting



Larry Bird Career Playoff Stats (164 games, again less than LBJ. To Bird's credit he has one more ring thus far)



42.0 MPG, 23.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .472/.321/.890 shooting



Some of his most impressive Playoff runs stats wise


1985-86: 18 games, 42.8 MPG, 25.9 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 8.2 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.6 BPG on .517/.411/.927 shooting

1983-84: 23 games, 41.8 MPG, 27.5 PPG, 11.0 RPG, 5.9 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.2 BPG on .524/.412/.879 shooting

1986-87: 23 ga,es. 44.1 MPG, 27.0 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 7.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .476/.341/.912 shooting

1984-85: 20 games, 40.8 MPG, 26.0 PPG, 9.1 RPG, 5.8 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.0 BPG on .461/.280/.890 shooting

1987-88: 17 games, 44.9 MPG, 24.5 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .450/.375/.894 shooting

1980-81: 17 games, 44.1 MPG, 21.9 PPG, 14.0 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BPG on .470/.375/.894 shooting



Larry Bird Awards and Accolades


NBA Hall of Fame

3x NBA Champion

3x NBA MVP

2x NBA Finals MVP

12x NBA All-Star

9x All-NBA 1st Team

1x All-NBA 2nd Team

3x All-Defensive 2nd Team

Led NBA in 3PT FGs made twice

Led NBA in FT% 4 times

11th All-Time in NBA FT%

16th All-Time in NBA PPG

NBA 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

Number 33 retired by Celtics

1x All-Star Game MVP

3x 3Pt shootout champion






Please tell me how it's not debatable :rolleyes:


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