What do you see from Parker and Randle this year

[JtotheIzzo]

The unfortunate injuries have really pushed these guys under the radar, are they both expected to make 100% recoveries, and if so how much impact can they have?

I know that Randle is key for the Lakers (simply from reading the sheer volume of posts from Laker fans) but what about Parker, what role does he fit now that the Bucks have Giannis, Khris Middleton and Greg Monroe. Will he be featured? Is there a chance he is a 6 man?

Also, is Randle eligible for ROY?

[STATUTORY]

Julius Black Michelin Man Randle is gonna be flat out scary

dude might be strongest player in the NBA right now, cats literarlly gonna be bouncing off of him

[gts]

The ROY for Randle is vague but there is discussion on it.

I've asked a couple beat writers and they don't know, one said he asked somebody within the NBA and they didn't know, the NBPA rep the writer asked thought the NBPA was going to make a formal request.

Technically the answer is no but the one writer felt the NBA may lean towards a yes but it would have to be addressed by some committee that deals with these things.

[SugarHill]

Randle played a game last year making him ineligible. I don't see how Parker isn't still a massive part of what the Bucks hope to build here. He's no 6th man

[kennethgriffin]

julius randle and d'angelo russell are gonna beast all day together in the pick and roll



randle will get 5 easy layups/dunks a game and average 12-13ppg with 8-9rpg

[Dbrog]

Lakers fans on here are insanely overrating Randle. Not saying he's bad, but he's no Karl Malone and will never be. Come on dudes...

Parker on the other hand seems pretty legit. He truly might be an elite scorer along the lines of Melo. He's got some sick length too. I'm definitely going to be watching a few Bucks games this year to check out this kid.

[Jameerthefear]

randle will just be ok
he dropped for a reason

[Milbuck]

Jabari is the franchise. Or 1/2 of it at least, with GA. Any hope of this team contending depends on him becoming a star.

Word is our GM wanted Bobby Portis in the draft but Kidd said no specifically because he's a PF and he thought drafting a PF would undermine Jabari's worth to the franchise. Shitty logic imo but it puts into perspective just how much Jabari is valued in MKE.

[ClipperRevival]

People are going to see a Blake Griffin/Charles Barkley type player in Randle. Someone who can take it coast to coast off a defensive rebound and create for himself or others. He's also going to be strong as a bull down low. He'll absorb contact and play through it. He will be deadly when facing up the basket from 15-18 feet because he has unreal quickness and first step for a 4. He might rely a little too much on taking guys off the dribble if his post game or jumper isn't working. I don't see him being a dominant rebounder or anything like that given his average wingspan, so maybe 8-9 boards a game.

Where he will absolutely excel is in transition. The guy moves like a guy smaller than him. He can really run up and down the court while maintaining good coordination. A lot of bigs can get up to speed after a few strides but struggle to stop and start again. Randle can really move with fluidity.

So the points in transition and face ups will be there. The big question of how good he will be will depend on his jumper and post up game. He'll get some points by playing through contact but we'll have to see if he can consistently score down low when he faces taller/longer 4s. He can't bull his way in the post every play. He'll have to have a reliablr post game to take that next step.

I think assuming he plays starter minutes, I expect about 15 ppg, 8-9 rpg, and maybe 3-4 apg (he can pass). And I am being generous here. If his jumper is consistent and he develops his postgame, he could easily score 18-20 ppg.

[kennethgriffin]

randle will just be ok
he dropped for a reason


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8pMZ7Gg-M


"just alright"


picture this guy on the break or cutting/pnr with russell or kobe drawing his man

[Kvnzhangyay]

If Randle truly did bulk up massively as the Lakers FO claims he did (or at least the rumors claim), then he should do very good.

Didn't get much chance to watch jabari, but hopefully he stays healthy, seems like he's going to be a star eventually.

[ClipperRevival]

Lakers fans on here are insanely overrating Randle. Not saying he's bad, but he's no Karl Malone and will never be. Come on dudes...

Parker on the other hand seems pretty legit. He truly might be an elite scorer along the lines of Melo. He's got some sick length too. I'm definitely going to be watching a few Bucks games this year to check out this kid.

Why bother commenting on a guy you never saw play? Do you see me commenting about Parker? No, because I didn't see him play and I'm not going to talk out of my ass and throw some shit out there and hope it sticks.

[Jameerthefear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8pMZ7Gg-M


"just alright"


picture this guy on the break or cutting/pnr with russell or kobe drawing his man
aww
that was adorable

[Dbrog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8pMZ7Gg-M


"just alright"


picture this guy on the break or cutting/pnr with russell or kobe drawing his man

He aint aaron gordon baaaaaaaabbbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyyyy :D

Besides being an athletic tall guy who can dunk doesn't necessarily mean you will be a good player. Ask the Bucks with Joe Alexander :(


edit: @ Clips revival- I saw him last year ya dope. Parker really has a knack for knowing how to move on the offensive end. He's just got to put it together now. He showed some great stuff.

edit #2: I'd be happy with Randle if he turned out to be Antonio McDyess 2.0

[ClipperRevival]

If Randle truly did bulk up massively as the Lakers FO claims he did (or at least the rumors claim), then he should do very good.

Didn't get much chance to watch jabari, but hopefully he stays healthy, seems like he's going to be a star eventually.

Actually the word is he has slimmed down. So he'll be more quick and explosive.

[KG215]

Lakers fans on here are insanely overrating Randle. Not saying he's bad, but he's no Karl Malone and will never be. Come on dudes...

Parker on the other hand seems pretty legit. He truly might be an elite scorer along the lines of Melo. He's got some sick length too. I'm definitely going to be watching a few Bucks games this year to check out this kid.
This. He's horrific on defense and, unless something has drastically changed for the good, his midrange jumper is awful...or at least it was in college.

[kennethgriffin]

inb4 randle makes the 2017 western conference allstars averaging near 20/10



yall realize he'l be their main scoring option forward/post/ go to guy when kobes gone right ?


lol

[ClipperRevival]

This. He's horrific on defense and, unless something has drastically changed for the good, his midrange jumper is awful...or at least it was in college.

We didn't draft him for his D. Everyone knew he would never be a rim protector just like everyone knew Blake Griffin won't be one. I will say that he has the foot speed and lateral mobility to be a good on the ball defender if he wants to be.

[kennethgriffin]

russell/randle are the next nash/amare, stockton/malone etc..


theyre perfectly suited for each others styles


russells a pick and roll genius

randles got the body/athleticism/talent


itel be a match made in heavin

[Jameerthefear]

he isn't blake griffin. stop that comparison. blake is on another planet athletically

[kennethgriffin]

he isn't blake griffin. stop that comparison. blake is on another planet athletically

who says you have to have all time historic top 5 virt/pogo jumping skills



randle has top 20 all time caliber athleticism. thats all he needs



he does windmills and between the leg dunks like hes throwing it through a 7 foot rim

[Jameerthefear]

who says you have to have all time historic top 5 virt/pogo jumping skills



randle has top 20 all time caliber athleticism. thats all he needs



he does windmills and between the leg dunks like hes throwing it through a 7 foot rim
:roll:

[ClipperRevival]

he isn't blake griffin. stop that comparison. blake is on another planet athletically

I didn't say he will be him, I said he will remind people of him in the way he will be able to create in transition as a 4 and his quickness off the dribble when facing guys up. Of course he's not on Blake's level athletically, no one is. But he has RARE foot speed, fluidity and speed for a guy his size.

We can talk all day but only time will tell. Let's see what happens.

[kennethgriffin]

:roll:


name more than 20 guys all time better at dunking than randle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyD3JOwnug


behind the back dunks?... ive seen maybe 2-3 guys do it before

[Jameerthefear]

name more than 20 guys all time better at dunking than randle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyD3JOwnug


behind the back dunks?... ive seen maybe 2-3 guys do it before
There are 20 guys in the league RIGHT NOW who are better dunkers than Randle. He isn't even top 3 in his own draft class :roll:

[kennethgriffin]

only guys who can pull off better dunks than randle are

- vince
- jordan
- dr j
- nance
- wilkins
- kobe
- kemp
- drexler
- richardson
- dwight
- blake
- lebron
- tmac
- lavine
- green



maybe a few other guys

[Jameerthefear]

gordon
wiggins
lavine

are all UNARGUABLY better dunkers than Randle. and that's just in his own ****ing draft class :roll:

[SugarHill]

he isn't blake griffin. stop that comparison. blake is on another planet athletically
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/9/18/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-6221-1379529168-47.gif

http://i.imgur.com/xe1YPQy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EB3vKJX.jpg


lmao @ another planet....do they use different measurements on that planet? :yaohappy:

[kennethgriffin]

There are 20 guys in the league RIGHT NOW who are better dunkers than Randle. He isn't even top 3 in his own draft class :roll:


name them


they all have to be able to do between the legs/behind the back/cradles/have their heads above the rim/legit full extension windmills

aaaaand go..

[ClipperRevival]

name more than 20 guys all time better at dunking than randle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyD3JOwnug


behind the back dunks?... ive seen maybe 2-3 guys do it before

Slow down bro. Randle is a solid dunker but a lot of guys can do those dunks. What makes Randle special is his explosiveness/quickness laterally, which might be more important than vertical explosiveness. He is a good power dunker but let's not get overboard.

[kennethgriffin]

gordon
wiggins
lavine

are all UNARGUABLY better dunkers than Randle. and that's just in his own ****ing draft class :roll:


wiggins and gordon are not better dunkers than randle

[SugarHill]

wiggins and gordon are not better dunkers than randle
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ClipperRevival]

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/04/youre-wrong-gif.gif

http://i.imgur.com/xe1YPQy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EB3vKJX.jpg


lmao @ another planet....do they use different measurements on that planet? :yaohappy:

To be honest, max verticals are misleading. They seldom translate to the court as expected. For instance, I think Kendall Marshall had the same max vert as Westbrook and Blake. There are dozens of other examples where a guy with his max vert didn't translate and vice versa. Too lazy to look it up but i know it's true. More important is vertical from a stand still position, that is a better demonstration of natural explosion.

Not saying Randle isn't explosive, because he is, but Blake is just on another planet.

[Milbuck]

When did top 20 athleticism all time turn into top 20 dunker all time? Did you just realize how comical the first statement was?

[YouGotServed]

kenneth has a point. Any sensible fan could see Randle is a better athlete than Gordon

[kennethgriffin]

When did top 20 athleticism all time turn into top 20 dunker all time? Did you just realize how comical the first statement was?


it usually translates quite well

jumping ability is usually a big part of being athletic



i dunno i guess its just a wild/crazy idea of mine

but regardless. athleticism or dunking ability i'd say randles a 4.5 out of 5

[SugarHill]

To be honest, max verticals are misleading. They seldom translate to the court as expected. For instance, I think Kendall Marshall had the same max vert as Westbrook and Blake. There are dozens of other examples where a guy with his max vert didn't translate and vice versa. Too lazy to look it up but i know it's true. More important is vertical from a stand still position, that is a better demonstration of natural explosion.

Not saying Randle isn't explosive, because he is, but Blake is just on another planet.

I think Randle is actually a better athlete than Blake in terms of lateral movement and agility. His standing reach is higher. He's stronger. I don't think saying Blake is on a different level athletically is honest considering nothing points to this. "a different planet".

Listen, Blake is a "different planet" from Z-Bo. Not Randle. You see?

[Jameerthefear]

name them


they all have to be able to do between the legs/behind the back/cradles/have their heads above the rim/legit full extension windmills

aaaaand go..
current?
lavine
gordon
wiggins
griffin
shannon brown
gerald green
hezonja
lebron
deandre jordan
dwight howard
westbrook
rose (pre injury)
dipo
harden
giannis
drummond
iggy
derozan
bledsoe
terrence ross

[Jameerthefear]

wiggins and gordon are not better dunkers than randle
:roll:

[Jameerthefear]

I think Randle is actually a better athlete than Blake in terms of lateral movement and agility. His standing reach is higher. He's stronger. I don't think saying Blake is on a different level athletically is honest considering nothing points to this. "a different planet".

Listen, Blake is a "different planet" from Z-Bo. Not Randle. You see?
you are reallllllyyy sleeping on griffin if you think that's true

[SugarHill]

http://i.imgur.com/qTE1rQ2.gif

Gordon can also do literally any dunk Randle can but Gordon can do dunks Randle simply isn't capable of.

I won't comment on Wiggins because that's just ridiculous lmao

[Jameerthefear]

i like how you said 'head over the rim'
randle doesn't get his head over the rim lmao

[ClipperRevival]

I think Randle is actually a better athlete than Blake in terms of lateral movement and agility. His standing reach is higher. He's stronger. I don't think saying Blake is on a different level athletically is honest considering nothing points to this. "a different planet".

Listen, Blake is a "different planet" from Z-Bo. Not Randle. You see?

Honestly, I think Blake is the 2nd greatest in game dunker ever. He literally plays above the rim and gets to a place vertically that no one else can match. So in that regard, Randle isn't on his level in terms of explosivenss off the floor. But in other areas, like lateral quickness, fluidity, speed, etc, Randle is up there with Blake. But sheer explosivenss off the ground? I don't think even Kemp could get up to Blake's level. I don't know, I have watched about 90% of all his games and besides, Vince, I have never seen someone like him in terms of playing above the rim like that so consistently.

[Milbuck]

Blake from this past year isn't on another planet compared to Randle. Idk what happened to him but he doesn't have the same otherworldly bounce he used to have. Maybe he just wasn't using it as much. But Blake from a few years ago is an absolute freak of nature, like chin at the rim type athlete. It's like comparing Kobe to Lebron athletically imo. Randle is a greate athlete, but there's clear separation between him and BG.

[SugarHill]

Honestly, I think Blake is the 2nd greatest in game dunker ever. He literally plays above the rim and gets to a place vertically that no one else can match. So in that regard, Randle isn't on his level in terms of explosivenss off the floor. But in other areas, like lateral quickness, fluidity, speed, etc, Randle is up there with Blake. But sheer explosivenss off the ground? I don't think even Kemp could get up to Blake's level. I don't know, I have watched about 90% of all his games and besides, Vince, I have never seen someone like him in terms of playing above the rim like that so consistently.

Fair enough and I agree in that regard except Blake is definitely not my 2nd GOAT dunker :kobe:

woah chill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyriC4Te_-s

[Sportal]

3 weeks after the finals and the Lakers' fans going HAM.

Smfh.

[ClipperRevival]

Fair enough and I agree in that regard except Blake is definitely not my 2nd GOAT dunker :kobe:

woah chill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyriC4Te_-s

Agree to disagree about Kemp. To me, Blake is way above Kemp as an in-game dunker. Like I said, the only two guys who I have watched that would consistently give you dunks in-game with such lift is Vince and Blake. Green is up there too but he doesn't have the volume of dunks as those two. Blake and Vince consistently gave you dunks wheretheir heads were at the rim.

[kennethgriffin]

current?
lavine.... yeah
gordon
wiggins
griffin .... maybe. his athleticism has slipped allot since his prime dunking days
shannon brown
gerald green .... maybe
hezonja a good dunk today but common lol
lebron not anymore
deandre jordan da **** can he do other than plain power shit
dwight howard not anymore
westbrook hes great at posters but i dont think he can do many tricks
rose (pre injury) hes a shell of his former dunking self
dipo
harden
giannis
drummond
iggy not anymore
derozan not anymore
bledsoe
terrence ross



bold = no... randles better than them.. gets higher/does more tricks currently

[Jameerthefear]

i can show you dunks from every single one of those players that randle isn't capable of

[SugarHill]

Terrence Ross? You think Randle is better than Terrence Ross at dunking? :biggums:

DJ?

http://i.imgur.com/AOsV38O.gif http://i.imgur.com/mkwDMzZ.gif

Westbrook doing a windmill better than anything Randle has shown (full extension...Vince Carter like)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPG6VYtsRU

[Jameerthefear]

Derozan doing a CLEAN reverse windmill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HPvkBGtHPc

[TripleA]

bold = no... randles better than them.. gets higher/does more tricks currently

:lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNYMz2oFTuU
Randle gets posterized so much you clown. How high can he get in a game.:oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

Derozan doing a CLEAN reverse windmill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HPvkBGtHPc

thats the 2010-11 season for god sake... its 2015-16 this upcoming year you know?



randle as of today is a better dunker

[kennethgriffin]

Terrence Ross? You think Randle is better than Terrence Ross at dunking? :biggums:

DJ?

http://i.imgur.com/AOsV38O.gif http://i.imgur.com/mkwDMzZ.gif

Westbrook doing a windmill better than anything Randle has shown (full extension...Vince Carter like)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPG6VYtsRU


hes one of maybe 3 dunkers in the league right now better than randle

[Sportal]

One of THREE...? Oh my lord..

[TripleA]

hes one of maybe 3 dunkers in the league right now better than randle

:facepalm your stanism blocks you from seeing the light you troll.

[Jameerthefear]

thats the 2010-11 season for god sake... its 2015-16 this upcoming year you know?



randle as of today is a better dunker
you literally just called randle a top 20 dunker of alltime. why does the season matter?

[Cocaine80s]

Randle is 6'10 and cant even get his head near the rim

[West-Side]

The ROY for Randle is vague but there is discussion on it.

I've asked a couple beat writers and they don't know, one said he asked somebody within the NBA and they didn't know, the NBPA rep the writer asked thought the NBPA was going to make a formal request.

Technically the answer is no but the one writer felt the NBA may lean towards a yes but it would have to be addressed by some committee that deals with these things.

I am pretty sure in baseball, a pitcher is eligible to be rookie of the year if he got injured his 1st season in the majors and did not pitch over a certain amount of innings (I believe like 9 or 15).

If that is the case, and he missed the entire year due to an injury; he is considered a rookie. Same for batter; if they didn't exceed a certain amount of AB's during the year, they are considered rookies until they exceed a combined innings pitched or AB.

So for instance; if a batter debuts in 2011 and the eligible AB's is 20 for instance. If in 2011 he had 9 AB, in 2012 he had 5 AB; in 2013 he would still be considered a rookie.

That logic makes complete sense to me.
Randle is technically a rookie, since he has NOT played an actual NBA game yet (in the regular season, AGAINST other NBA pros).

[ArbitraryWater]

thats the 2010-11 season for god sake... its 2015-16 this upcoming year you know?



randle as of today is a better dunker

but.... all the guys you mentioned aren't better dunkers AS OF TODAY either... your guys were actually even more in the past, so how come he cant mention someone from 2011?

"Carter, MJ, Dr J, Nance" way to contradict yourself lmao.

you're dumb.

[West-Side]

Kids at the summer league are crazy about Randle. Saying he's extremely strong and fast for his size; I know it's teammates talking, but I'm a little excited to see him play.