Can Melo age well?

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

I know he's coming off a surgery, and the shoulder before that.

But the guy's game isn't predicated on athleticism... he's a pure shooter... strong in the post... he doesn't have the postseason mileage that other stars of his day have... can this guy play really well for another 5 years a la dirk?

[keep-itreal]

he's fat

[Sakkreth]

He's lazy. You need to be hard worker and stay fit if you want to age well.

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

He's lazy. You need to be hard worker and stay fit if you want to age well.

personally I think that a big part of why today's players, and not just basketball, seemingly suffer more injuries than in the past is the overtaxing of the body caused by aggressive gym regimens, supplements, and general focus on athleticism (over individual skills and fundamentals, as well as those of the team as a unit).

As pertains to Melo, I disagree with the fat/lazy dismissive answer. He has a certain body type; he loves the game and loves to win. He is not, however, a great leader of men.

[outbreak]

No but lala looks like she's aging well

[Kobe_6/8]

I know he's coming off a surgery, and the shoulder before that.

But the guy's game isn't predicated on athleticism... he's a pure shooter... strong in the post....he doesn't have the postseason mileage that other stars of his day have... can this guy play really well for another 5 years a la dirk?

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[buddha]

idk he was never very attractive to begin with..

[outbreak]

idk he was never very attractive to begin with..
He kind of had that cute chubby puppy dog look going

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

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pithy. perhaps i should have rephrased: he's not an athletic strong beast who will go up strong and dunk on peoples heads... he's a crafty post scorer who can exploit mismatches, use his size (read: fat ass) to create space, and utilize an extensive arsenal of post moves. Also, after taking a shot from the post or paint, he often sneakily tips in his own shot.

::Bias - he gets fouled according to current NBA reffing and it goes uncalled - a lot::

That's all not to mention that if he trusts his teammates (he hasn't had too many), he is more than capable of making great passes out of the post in the event of double team as well as within an offensive system. In fact, one of his greatest measures of value is his ability to bend defenses around him and create opportunities for teammates. Obviously if they cannot hit open shots (looking at you, last year's roster), that value is nullified.

the point of the OP was that most of these elements at which Melo excels, save perhaps for the offensive rebounding off of a miss (which requires quick leaping ability), are not predicated on athleticism and thus should allow him to continue to be an offensive force in this league for years to come.

[uber]

I know he's coming off a surgery, and the shoulder before that.

But the guy's game isn't predicated on athleticism... he's a pure shooter... strong in the post... he doesn't have the postseason mileage that other stars of his day have... can this guy play really well for another 5 years a la dirk?

since his game isn't based on athleticism or speed i think he can .. yeah i'm obviously biased but i can see him age like pierce or dirk

[GimmeThat]

we Can say that at this point, Carmelo Anthony's impact is probably similar to that of the 3rd year Anthony Davis. you don't know how much better Anthony Davis may get, or how long it might even take him, to become that undoubted/unquestioned 1st option on a Conference final team. With Carmelo, if he wanted to play out his career, he could be your 1st option offensively, 2nd/3rd option defensively. that's conference finals possibility, and perhaps even contending if you have young athletic players who can knock down the jump shots

had Mike D'Antoni not been speaking a different language due to his stint with the Euro league. and dealing with few of the better college players NCAA ever seen.

Baron Davis and Amare Stoudemire's injury really hampered the first half of Melo's stint with the Knicks.

Having to watch the Miami Heat steam roll through their competition after being ousted in the playoff also could not had been a good feeling for the front office. Since its certain that some of those moves weren't just made to become a contender, but to be sure that if they were to run into the Miami Heat during the playoffs, they would be deep enough from a roster perspective to compete, if not away, at the least, on the home court.



the reality is, it's always been much easier for me to come up with a contending team scenario when the owner is known to go deep into the luxury tax if it was deemed worth it.

but people turnarounds most likely happen more frequent as well, just as well as the time table it takes to recoup past those ugly 1st round, not knowing what to do and the certainty of lottery pick days

[nathanjizzle]

i think he can maintain a steady baseline of mediocrity.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Melo is Paul Pierce how do people not realize this?

Guy can play 20 years in the league. His entire game is based on actual basketball skill and attributes that dont fade quickly (strength, timing).

[Legends66NBA7]

It would also help if he had a better cast and coaching to manage his minutes.

[outbreak]

Melo is Paul Pierce how do people not realize this?

Guy can play 20 years in the league. His entire game is based on actual basketball skill and attributes that dont fade quickly (strength, timing).

There's a big difference

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[NewYorkNoPicks]

There's a big difference

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Cool so get him 2 future Hall Of Fame teammates who perfectly compliment not only his, but each others games, dont have redundant skillsets, and a draft a future allstar point guard a year or two before. Then Melo can have a title too

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

glad some people agree with me.

[outbreak]

Cool so get him 2 future Hall Of Fame teammates who perfectly compliment not only his, but each others games, dont have redundant skillsets, and a draft a future allstar point guard a year or two before. Then Melo can have a title too
No because Melo would want all the money and all the possessions. One is a winner and one is an out of shape scorer who is fine losing so long as he has money and lala.

[TripleA]

No because Melo would want all the money and all the possessions. One is a winner and one is an out of shape scorer who is fine losing so long as he has money and lala.

:lol paul p was loser worse than melo before the big three came together.
Melo hate out of control. bump the narrative people need stop with these Bspn generalizations.

[ClipperRevival]

Yes. He might be a black hole but his ability to score is elite and the way he does it doesn't rely on explosiveness. Heck, I would bet that almost half his shot attempts are midrange or 3 point shots. All he does is face you up and pull up. Or pretend to go off the dribble and come back with a step back jumper. Most of his game is based on midrange jumpers.

Aldridge is another guy whose game will age well because he also relies heavily on midrange jumpers.

[TripleA]

Yes. He might be a black hole but his ability to score is elite and the way he does it doesn't rely on explosiveness. Heck, I would bet that almost half his shot attempts are midrange or 3 point shots. All he does is face you up and pull up. Or pretend to go off the dribble and come back with a step back jumper. Most of his game is based on midrange jumpers.

Aldridge is another guy whose game will age well because he also relies heavily on midrange jumpers.

:applause:

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

bump

[midatlantic09]

Age well? Probably not.

Just by looking his body, one can assume he's lazy (he's chubby despite having literally nothing else to worry about other than basketball and staying in shape) so most likely he'll get even lazier as he ages...

[Fallen Angel]

Carmelo over the past couple seasons has incorporated a knockdown three point shot that will live for him the rest of his career. Even though Melo gets trashed over his conditioning, he still has a blazing quick first step and complements that with a strong 6'9" body.

He'll age fine, Carmelo will probably be an above average scorer on whatever role he receives in the future, whether it would be a starter or a bench player.

[smoovegittar]

I don't see why not. He's certainly not stupid, if a bit stubborn. Anytime there's a Melo thread, the bozos come out to play. He needs to perform well this year.

I like Anthony. He's no LeBron though. More like a Kobe without the attitude :D

[Lebron23]

I can see him winning an NBA Championship ala Glenn Rice in 2000.

[I Love the Game]

Yea in the early 2000's I used to go watch Paul Pierce vs. the Sixers. Dude could ball his mind out, stole a few playoff games for sure but had no better a resume than Melo does at this point. The post a page back says it all, PP was fortunate to have an insane (read the first Big 3 of the era) team built around him to win.

People forget Melo on the Nuggets - insanely close to beating the Lakers multiple times the years they went to the finals. I was a wreck during those games with Melo and effing JR Smith going off.

[ShackEelOKneel]

His shot will stay, but he'll struggle to get by people off the dribble and will become a giant defensive liability.

[kNicKz]

There's a big difference

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Yeah the Celtics sure accomplished a lot with solely Paul Pierce pre KG/Ray :roll:

[HylianNightmare]

I firmly believe that he will

[Amar'e_Juwanna]

bump

[thefatmiral]

His shot will stay, but he'll struggle to get by people off the dribble and will become a giant defensive liability.
yeah. he will look and play like end if career kobe. without being as old. and hopefully not as delusional. knicks make playoffs next year too