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warriorfan
07-11-2015, 04:12 AM
AMC is better
Legends66NBA7
07-11-2015, 04:16 AM
Curry vs Paul is the point guard comparison of Dirk vs Garnett. Similarities are pretty much all there.
Curry (like Dirk) scores, shoots, better off ball, etc... Paul (like KG) passes, defends, more complete, etc... I may or may not get laughed for saying it's close and can go either way but its true.
ShackEelOKneel
07-11-2015, 04:23 AM
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b0bab0i
07-11-2015, 04:30 AM
Who the fvck is amc?
Is Chris Paul better than a movie theater?
triangleoffense
07-11-2015, 04:42 AM
alpha male curry the shittest meme since GODBE
JohnMax
07-11-2015, 04:51 AM
Curry and its not close
Inferno
07-11-2015, 05:23 AM
Give me Curry
dabigbaws
07-11-2015, 05:33 AM
Chris paul ANYDAY of the week
RidonKs
07-11-2015, 08:01 AM
Curry vs Paul is the point guard comparison of Dirk vs Garnett. Similarities are pretty much all there.
Curry (like Dirk) scores, shoots, better off ball, etc... Paul (like KG) passes, defends, more complete, etc... I may or may not get laughed for saying it's close and can go either way but its true.
best analogy for it i've seen yet bro. for all the reasons you stated.
enter westbrook and irving and wall and lillard into the conversation
take us back to 2003 when power forward was the dominant position in the league
compare, contrast, live, learn, love, laugh, lie, lettuce be reality, ISH
branslowski
07-11-2015, 11:47 AM
Curry easily...Still waiting for Cliff Paul to get out of the 2nd round
TheMarkMadsen
07-11-2015, 11:49 AM
Curry easily...Still waiting for Cliff Paul to get out of the 2nd round
Exactly Curry shitted on the team that eliminated Paul
Won the MVP
Won the nba championship
This isn't even close
WorldWarriors
07-11-2015, 12:22 PM
Chris Paul is still the best "true" point guard in the league. His handles, playmaking, defense and court vision should not be taken for granted. Plus he's a good shooter.
Having said that,
Curry is not a true point guard in the traditional sense. Labeling him so (yeah that's his designated position) would devalue his skills as well. He has great handles, great passes, and can get his shot off anywhere on the floor. He has the rare ability to be as effective off the ball as he is with the ball in his hands. To say his shooting prowess is incredible is an understatement. There are no words to describe how he can get that ball in the basket. He is an amazing player period. I am thankful everyday that he fell to my team. He is incredible to watch. What a gift.
So yeah, Curry is better than Paul in my book. But Paul is still great at what he does but compared to what Curry does he falls short.
RidonKs
07-11-2015, 12:35 PM
chris paul is still a better overall player than steph curry. unsurprisingly the reason is defense. paul is at the top of the league in that respect and curry is middle of the road, though at least a hard worker.
that said, curry will go down as the better player. rightfully so. he is generational in the vein of bird and dirk. but he just isn't right now. because he's only 26 years old. and chris paul is a maniac.
this comparison boils down to a choice
defense or versatility
we know the cliche that chris paul needs the ball in his hands to be effective. this is mostly true. but when he has the ball in his hands, things rarely go wrong. steph curry could be doing jumping jacks at center court with his eyes closed and he would still be a nightmare to defend. plug him anywhere and he'll do what he does and go with the flow. but he's young and careless and doesn't play really good defense. chris paul is a careful veteran who plays incredible defense. most teams in the league would be better off with chris paul, since the point guard is the traditional ball dominant position anyway. edit: errr im rethinking this last statement upon considering all the ball dominant wings out there..
so, right this minute, chris paul is better than steph curry. just like he was better than russ westbrook during those comparisons last season. just like he was better than tony parker when everyone was on his jock. just like he was better than rose during the mvp year. just like he was better than deron fking williams the year they were both drafted.
in recent years he has been more disrespected relative to his talent than anybody else i can think of. just a competitive dynamic heady ball player. yall gonna recognize some day..
warriorfan
07-11-2015, 01:00 PM
Chris Paul needs an offensive PF to be effective in Pick and Roll and those guys usually don't play good D.
Having a PF that isn't a stud defensively is going to kill your chances to win a chip.
He's a nice player, but team built around Chris Paul isn't going deep into the playoffs. The proof is in the pudding.
inclinerator
07-11-2015, 01:05 PM
cp3 is way better
the most skilled player in the nba
Da Hammer
07-11-2015, 01:10 PM
Put Paul on this Warriors team and they still win the championship. They are really close in terms of talent. I'd probably take Paul because of his passing and defense but Curry's range changes games.
TheMarkMadsen
07-11-2015, 01:25 PM
Put Paul on this Warriors team and they still win the championship. They are really close in terms of talent. I'd probably take Paul because of his passing and defense but Curry's range changes games.
No they don't. The entire team is built around having the goat shooter.
Paul doesn't get nearly as much defensive attention as a Curry does. Curry impacts the game more.
If Paul had Klay & Draymond as his best teammates instead of MVP candidate Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan he would do better..??
warriorfan
07-11-2015, 01:33 PM
Put Paul on this Warriors team and they still win the championship. They are really close in terms of talent. I'd probably take Paul because of his passing and defense but Curry's range changes games.
No they don't. CLE plays everyone straight up so Iguodala and Green aren't getting WIDE open looks every time. Klay stays shitting the bed. Offense gets shut down. Curry getting aggressively double teamed every time was what GS offense was built off of that series. Warriors outside of Curry were struggling to put up offense with wide open looks...Imagine if they were actually seeing defenders their way, which would be the case if they were playing with Paul.
Young X
07-11-2015, 03:12 PM
No they don't. The entire team is built around having the goat shooter.
Paul doesn't get nearly as much defensive attention as a Curry does. Curry impacts the game more.
If Paul had Klay & Draymond as his best teammates instead of MVP candidate Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan he would do better..??He doesn't need to get as much defensive attention, he's the best passer/playmaker in the league - he's always gonna get his teammates tons of good looks and easy baskets.
And the Warriors are built around defense, the Clippers were better than them offensively all season. What separated the Warriors is their #1 ranked defense compared to the Clippers 15th ranked defense. Are you gonna tell me that's because of Curry?
TheMarkMadsen
07-11-2015, 03:28 PM
He doesn't need to get as much defensive attention, he's the best passer/playmaker in the league - he's always gonna get his teammates tons of good looks and easy baskets.
:biggums: :biggums:
Curry literally allows his teammates to go unguarded..
Curry impacts the game in ways that Paul doesn't.. he puts pressure on the defense in ways Paul doesn't..
Curry gets his teammates great looks too, he allows them to go unguarded and was 2nd in the league last year in hockey assist while passing significantly less than Paul.. there is no wasted motion in Curry's game..
and at the same time this guy can give you 28 ppg on great efficiency for 20+ games in the playoffs which is something Paul can't do
Curry's game is more conducive to winning, some of the greatest point guards of all time never won a ring.. because passing the ball isn't as effective as putting it in the bucket yourself..
give Curry Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan and they would win 70 games and walk to a championship
Young X
07-11-2015, 03:44 PM
:biggums: :biggums:
Curry literally allows his teammates to go unguarded..
Curry impacts the game in ways that Paul doesn't.. he puts pressure on the defense in ways Paul doesn't..
Curry gets his teammates great looks too, he allows them to go unguarded and was 2nd in the league last year in hockey assist while passing significantly less than Paul.. there is no wasted motion in Curry's game..
and at the same time this guy can give you 28 ppg on great efficiency for 20+ games in the playoffs which is something Paul can't do
Curry's game is more conducive to winning, some of the greatest point guards of all time never won a ring.. because passing the ball isn't as effective as putting it in the bucket yourself..
give Curry Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan and they would win 70 games and walk to a championshipSo what if CP doesn't get doubled above the 3 point line as much? He constantly forces 2 defenders to commit to him when he penetrates or comes off a screen which leaves his teammates open. Nobody is better at distracting multiple defenders and making them look silly than Paul.
And you keep bringing up offense when the Clippers were better in that aspect than the Warriors.
The difference between them is the Warriors were the best defense and the Clippers were mediocre. Is this because of Curry? Or is it Iggy, Green, Bogut and Thompson?
SHAQisGOAT
07-11-2015, 04:02 PM
Paul is better overall, let's call it... If this was 2k, he'd have a better overall ranking. Better passer, better defender, even better rebounder, better athlete (at both their best) despite Curry being taller, has a better triple-threat game, also is a great shooter and a very good scorer, both have terrific handles but CP3 takes better care of it...
However, Curry has him beat in terms of scoring and overall shooting, he draws more attention out of a defense too, and I'd probably say he's more impactful at the end of the day, I'd probably pick him 1st right now...
TheMarkMadsen
07-11-2015, 04:04 PM
So what if CP doesn't get doubled above the 3 point line as much? He constantly forces 2 defenders to commit to him when he penetrates or comes off a screen which leaves his teammates open. Nobody is better at distracting multiple defenders and making them look silly than Paul.
And you keep bringing up offense when the Clippers were better in that aspect than the Warriors.
The difference between them is the Warriors were the best defense and the Clippers were mediocre. Is this because of Curry? Or is it Iggy, Green, Bogut and Thompson?
you keep ignoring the biggest difference between these two players
Curry can drop 28 per game in the playoffs for 20+ games while not sacrificing any play making for other teammates. His ability to score like he does opens up the entire floor for his teammates
this is just something that Chris Paul can not do
The Clippers won a playoff game on the road without Paul, they went up 3-1 with him missing the first two games..
he has an amazing supporting cast.. stop making excuses, he's arguably not even the best player on his team yet still can't get passed the 2nd round..
Curry just led his team to a championship, something Paul has never got close to doing.. while absolutly destroying the same team that sent Paul fishing and averaging 10 more ppg than Paul did on better efficiency..
imdaman99
07-11-2015, 04:34 PM
Curry, Westbrook, Paul that's the order I'd put them in after this year, although Westbrook gonna take that crown back
iznogood
07-11-2015, 04:35 PM
I'd take Paul as the better overall player, better defender and a tougher guy in general. I can see why somebody would want to take Curry though.
Paul - Curry swap is an interesting what if question too. I can see the GSW running a similar style of basketball with Paul playing the point and David Lee starting instead of Draymond Green. I think guys like Iggy and MKG still get their fair share of good looks just like JJ and Barnes did.
Their defense changes a lot with Lee starting instead instead of Green and they loose a lot of their ability to switch, but Paul on the other hand brings them elite defense at the point.
As for the Curry on the Clippers, it'd be really interesting to see how their offense would look. They already had an elite offense even though Jordan and Blake don't fit perfectly and Barnes was streaky. I'm sure their coaching staff would come up with some great ideas of how to incorporate Curry. Their defense would suffer for sure since they lose their best defender.
Point being, I think the Warriors still have a very good chance at winning the title with Paul and I don't think that Curry can carry this Clippers team any further than Paul did last year.
RidonKs
07-11-2015, 04:59 PM
Paul is better overall, let's call it... If this was 2k, he'd have a better overall ranking. Better passer, better defender, even better rebounder, better athlete (at both their best) despite Curry being taller, has a better triple-threat game, also is a great shooter and a very good scorer, both have terrific handles but CP3 takes better care of it...
However, Curry has him beat in terms of scoring and overall shooting, he draws more attention out of a defense too, and I'd probably say he's more impactful at the end of the day, I'd probably pick him 1st right now...
please tell me how these statements are not contradictory?
the better overall player as in well-rounded? who cares how well rounded a guy is. derek fisher was well rounded (literally).
FKAri
07-11-2015, 04:59 PM
CP3. He'd be more successful in more systems. He's a plug and play player. I think he gets underrated lately around here.
Young X
07-11-2015, 05:04 PM
If you put CP on the Warriors they're still the best defense in the league and an elite offense.
They would face...
Pelicans
Grizzlies with blind Conley and injured Allen
Rockets
Cavs without Kyrie and Love
His toughest individual matchups would be Dellavedova and Terry.
If you don't think CP can win in this situation than you're disrespecting the shit out of him. He's never faced competition that weak, never been on a team as deep as the Warriors and never been on an a great defense.
ArbitraryWater
07-11-2015, 06:05 PM
No they don't. The entire team is built around having the goat shooter.
Paul doesn't get nearly as much defensive attention as a Curry does. Curry impacts the game more.
If Paul had Klay & Draymond as his best teammates instead of MVP candidate Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan he would do better..??
you keep mention this nonsense.. yay Curry is a better shooter we get it.
ArbitraryWater
07-11-2015, 06:06 PM
Paul is better overall, let's call it... If this was 2k, he'd have a better overall ranking. Better passer, better defender, even better rebounder, better athlete (at both their best) despite Curry being taller, has a better triple-threat game, also is a great shooter and a very good scorer, both have terrific handles but CP3 takes better care of it...
However, Curry has him beat in terms of scoring and overall shooting, he draws more attention out of a defense too, and I'd probably say he's more impactful at the end of the day, I'd probably pick him 1st right now...
the ****? well who is better/more impactful now? make sense
Fudge
07-11-2015, 06:09 PM
CP3 by a mile.
TheMarkMadsen
07-11-2015, 06:10 PM
you keep mention this nonsense.. yay Curry is a better shooter we get it.
what's nonsense about Curry's GOAT level shooting and the massive impact it has on defenses..
TheMarkMadsen
07-11-2015, 06:12 PM
If you put CP on the Warriors they're still the best defense in the league and an elite offense.
They would face...
Pelicans
Grizzlies with blind Conley and injured Allen
Rockets
Cavs without Kyrie and Love
His toughest individual matchups would be Dellavedova and Terry.
If you don't think CP can win in this situation than you're disrespecting the shit out of him. He's never faced competition that weak, never been on a team as deep as the Warriors and never been on an a great defense.
He just lost to the Rockets while playing on a great team :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
you are delusional
Young X
07-11-2015, 06:29 PM
He just lost to the Rockets while playing on a great team :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
you are delusionalLost to the Rockets on an inferior team without HCA and with him missing the 1st 2 games.
If that series went 7, how does he lose on a better team with HCA?
notatop29pg
07-11-2015, 06:36 PM
There's no question that Curry is the better player right now.
Needs to do it for another 5-6 straight years though.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-11-2015, 06:46 PM
They're definitely comparable. While I think Curry is the better 1-on-1 player (iso scoring), CP3 has him in playmaking and defense. Depending on the team makeup you could choose one or the other and they would fit like a glove.
Fudge
07-11-2015, 06:54 PM
They're definitely comparable. While I think Curry is the better 1-on-1 player (iso scoring), CP3 has him in playmaking and defense. Depending on the team makeup you could choose one or the other and they would fit like a glove.
Even that is arguable.
CP3 is arguably better than him at literally everything in basketball.
wang4three
07-11-2015, 07:08 PM
I'd take Curry, but mainly because I think he's a better leader. Skills wise, there are things Curry's great at that CP's not and vice versa. It's close, but it seems like people actually like playing with Curry, while CP's teammates tolerate it.
branslowski
07-11-2015, 07:12 PM
Lost to the Rockets on an inferior team without HCA and with him missing the 1st 2 games.
If that series went 7, how does he lose on a better team with HCA?
What??:biggums:
You act like CP3 plays with the 06' Lakers (minus Kobe offcource)....CP3 got a top 3 PF and a Top 3 Center on his team, inferior???:facepalm
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-11-2015, 07:20 PM
Even that is arguable.
CP3 is arguably better than him at literally everything in basketball.
At this point of their careers I don't see how its arguable. Curry is absolutely more consistent when it pertains to scoring the basketball.
And yeah the Rockets were not superior by any means. We ****ing lost that series because CP and Blake shit their pants.
One of the worst chokes in history... Just gotta accept that.
WorldWarriors
07-11-2015, 07:30 PM
At this point of their careers I don't see how its arguable. Curry is absolutely more consistent when it pertains to scoring the basketball.
And yeah the Rockets were not superior by any means. We ****ing lost that series because CP and Blake shit their pants.
One of the worst chokes in history... Just gotta accept that. Now see I disagree. In the playoffs you need to able to get production from everybody. IMO, the series was lost because for 3 straight games Barnes, Riddick and Crawford couldn't hit the side of a barn. My son who is a huge Clips fan was at that big choke game at Staples by the way.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-11-2015, 07:49 PM
Now see I disagree. In the playoffs you need to able to get production from everybody. IMO, the series was lost because for 3 straight games Barnes, Riddick and Crawford couldn't hit the side of a barn. My son who is a huge Clips fan was at that big choke game at Staples by the way.
I get what you're saying, but Barnes has been trash for a minute. Like all year dude was garbage. Crawford always disappears in the playoffs, and JJ is mostly a spot-up shooter.
Griffin going scoreless from the field in the 4th quarter is pretty bad. Chris Paul with one field goal and no assists in the 4th quarter is REALLY bad. They had a chance to close that game and series out, and their best players went ghost.
So I mean, we can talk about role players and spot up shooters all day, but when your best players don't even show up...what's the point?
Young X
07-11-2015, 07:52 PM
Read my post again, I meant the Clippers were worse than the WARRIORS.
I'm saying, if the Clippers took the Rockets to 7 without homecourt why would CP3 lose to the Rockets while being on a much better Warriors team with homecourt?
And how did the Clippers lose because of Blake and CP when they were the only ones who showed up and played well? The real reason they lost to the Rockets is because their team defense was terrible and Redick, Crawford, Barnes shot under 30% in the last 3 games. It's easy to come up with narratives and blame the star players but they're not why the Clippers lost.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-11-2015, 07:57 PM
Read my post again, I meant the Clippers were worse than the WARRIORS.
I'm saying, if the Clippers took the Rockets to 7 without homecourt why would CP3 lose to the Rockets while being on a much better Warriors team with homecourt?
And how did the Clippers lose because of Blake and CP when they were the only ones who showed up and played well? The real reason they lost to the Rockets is because their team defense was terrible and Redick, Crawford, Barnes shot under 30% in the last 3 games. It's easy to come up with narratives and blame the star players but they're not why the Clippers lost.
They didn't show up to a close out game at home...this after being up by 20 points.
Blake and Paul were complete no-shows in that 4th quarter. Why make excuses for them? :confusedshrug:
Young X
07-11-2015, 08:06 PM
They didn't show up to a close out game at home...this after being up by 20 points.
Blake and Paul were complete no-shows in that 4th quarter. Why make excuses for them? :confusedshrug:Who's making excuses? Blake and CP3 were NOT the reasons why the Clippers lost that series. One bad quarter in 3 games doesn't lose you an entire series.
They lost because they couldn't get ANY stops and their role players completely disappeared (under 30% shooting combined for JJ, Crawford and Barnes in the last 3 games).
Why the f*ck would I blame the players who actually played well? By blaming them, you're saying everybody else was fine and their stars let them down. That's DUMB.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-11-2015, 08:14 PM
Who's making excuses? Blake and CP3 were NOT the reasons why the Clippers lost that series. One bad quarter in 3 games doesn't lose you an entire series.
Why the f*ck would I blame the players who actually played well? By blaming them, you're saying everybody else was fine and their stars let them down. That's DUMB.
They lost because they couldn't get ANY stops and their role players completely disappeared (under 30% shooting combined for JJ, Crawford and Barnes in the last 3 games).
Their best players not showing and going MIA for the biggest quarter in their careers up to that point...isn't why the Clippers lost?
Maybe its not the entire reason, as that does sound hyperbolic, but its one of if not THE major reason. How is that even debatable?
After choking game 6 away most people knew the series was over. CP and Blake basically gave the series to Houston on a silver platter.
Young X
07-11-2015, 08:52 PM
Their best players not showing and going MIA for the biggest quarter in their careers up to that point...isn't why the Clippers lost?
Maybe its not the entire reason, as that does sound hyperbolic, but its one of if not THE major reason. How is that even debatable?
After choking game 6 away most people knew the series was over. CP and Blake basically gave the series to Houston on a silver platter.One bad quarter from your stars doesn't lose an entire series. Clippers gave up 40 points in that same quarter, gave up 117.5 ORtg in the last 3 games. Redick, Crawford and Barnes shot 28% in the last 3 games. Like I said, that's what lost them the series. If they would've been able to get stops and ANY contribution from their role players the series doesn't even go to game 6.
WorldWarriors
07-11-2015, 09:12 PM
I get what you're saying, but Barnes has been trash for a minute. Like all year dude was garbage. Crawford always disappears in the playoffs, and JJ is mostly a spot-up shooter.
Griffin going scoreless from the field in the 4th quarter is pretty bad. Chris Paul with one field goal and no assists in the 4th quarter is REALLY bad. They had a chance to close that game and series out, and their best players went ghost.
So I mean, we can talk about role players and spot up shooters all day, but when your best players don't even show up...what's the point?
Okay those stats are bad. Numbers don't lie. But in Paul's defense re: assists, he can't get any if nobody is making shots. And honestly, I didn't even notice about Paul's fgs in the 4th. All I kept seeing was brick after brick by the wings.
warriorfan
07-11-2015, 10:10 PM
Okay those stats are bad. Numbers don't lie. But in Paul's defense re: assists, he can't get any if nobody is making shots. And honestly, I didn't even notice about Paul's fgs in the 4th. All I kept seeing was brick after brick by the wings.
Well that is your main problem when you build a team around Chris Paul.
Having your best player's best skill as a playmaker is nice but for a true contending team you need your best player to be your best scorer.
What makes more sense, having your best player dish the ball to your lesser skilled players during key moments? Or having your best player score the ball himself. It leaves less room for error when you are relying on your number 1 option to put the ball in the hoop when the game means the most instead of relying on your number 1 option to kick it to a role player and put all the weight on their shoulders. That isn't a winning formula.
Chris Paul is the supposed Alpha and needs to take the Alpha's scoring responsibilities and he doesn't. Instead people want to give him a free pass for deferring to his less skilled teammates and have them fail instead of him. No excuses. How many big stage failures does Chris Paul need before people stop trying to chalk it up as a coincidence?
WorldWarriors
07-11-2015, 10:25 PM
Well that is your main problem when you build a team around Chris Paul.
Having your best player's best skill as a playmaker is nice but for a true contending team you need your best player to be your best scorer.
What makes more sense, having your best player dish the ball to your lesser skilled players during key moments? Or having your best player score the ball himself. It leaves less room for error when you are relying on your number 1 option to put the ball in the hoop when the game means the most instead of relying on your number 1 option to kick it to a role player and put all the weight on their shoulders. That isn't a winning formula.
Chris Paul is the supposed Alpha and needs to take the Alpha's scoring responsibilities and he doesn't. Instead people want to give him a free pass for deferring to his less skilled teammates and have them fail instead of him. No excuses. How many big stage failures does Chris Paul need before people stop trying to chalk it up as a coincidence?Yes, this is true.
But I never thought he was the Clippers best player. I always thought they were building around Blake and Paul was a piece. Blake is supposed to be that guy, imo. But what do I know? Chris is a true point guard to a fault. That's why I would choose Steph over him any day. He will run the offense and take the big shot. And that's why to me Steph is the overall better player and I would choose him over Paul any day of the week. But that's just me.
Young X
07-11-2015, 10:47 PM
^ P*ssy
You're a dickrider, nobody takes your opinion seriously you dumb f*ggot.
Everybody on this site hates you and your gay ass posts. STFU.
iznogood
07-11-2015, 11:47 PM
It doesn't make sense to blame one or the other person for their loss. The real reason Clippers lost this series is actually the same reason both their stars and their role players kept missing their shots when they should've made them: their lack of depth.
The fact that Redick was guarding Harden is a perfect example. Redick is a decent defender. He's not very quick or fast, but he's smart, strong and gives a maximum effort. But is he really somebody you would want to guard James Harden and at the same time expect him to make shots? And made no mistake, he was the best defender Clippers had to defend Harden. Barnes is now too slow and Paul is too small.
WorldWarriors
07-11-2015, 11:50 PM
It doesn't make sense to blame one or the other person for their loss. The real reason Clippers lost this series is actually the same reason both their stars and their role players kept missing their shots when they should've made them: their lack of depth.
The fact that Redick was guarding Harden is a perfect example. Redick is a decent defender. He's not very quick or fast, but he's smart, strong and gives a maximum effort. But is he really somebody you would want to guard James Harden and at the same time expect him to make shots? And made no mistake, he was the best defender Clippers had to defend Harden. Barnes is now too slow and Paul is too small. Well in the close out game nobody had to guard Harden. Harden was riding the pine. :lol
iznogood
07-11-2015, 11:59 PM
Well in the close out game nobody had to guard Harden. Harden was riding the pine. :lol
Didn't Harden only sit out the ending of one of the games? And still, if you've been chasing somebody around the screens for 3 quarters you're not getting you're stamina for the final 5 minutes.
WorldWarriors
07-12-2015, 12:18 AM
Didn't Harden only sit out the ending of one of the games? And still, if you've been chasing somebody around the screens for 3 quarters you're not getting you're stamina for the final 5 minutes. He sat out the entire 4th quarter. He was a non factor.
SamuraiSWISH
07-12-2015, 12:28 AM
Chris Paul, for me.
iznogood
07-12-2015, 12:36 AM
It really doesn't make any difference if he sat out 5 minutes or an entire quarter when Redick had to work his ass off for the first 3 quarters and already put in a lot of work in the first 5 games. You're body doesn't recover that fast and forget about making shots when your legs are out. Clippers also played a long series against the Spurs in the first round. Also when Harden left the game Redick was matched up with Ariza who's probably Rockets' best perimeter defender.
WorldWarriors
07-12-2015, 12:42 AM
It really doesn't make any difference if he sat out 5 minutes or an entire quarter when Redick had to work his ass off for the first 3 quarters and already put in a lot of work in the first 5 games. You're body doesn't recover that fast and forget about making shots when your legs are out. Clippers also played a long series against the Spurs in the first round. Also when Harden left the game Redick was matched up with Ariza who's probably Rockets' best perimeter defender. Agree to disagree.
iznogood
07-12-2015, 12:45 AM
Agree to disagree.
What exactly is that you disagree about? Do you think that Redick should make his shots no matter what or that fatigue was not the reason he missed his shots?
Cleverness
07-12-2015, 12:48 AM
Curry is better than Chris Paul at everything except
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzU5d_4moc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeRG5qHIxJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBdMPLnpvA
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WorldWarriors
07-12-2015, 12:53 AM
What exactly is that you disagree about? Do you think that Redick should make his shots no matter what or that fatigue was not the reason he missed his shots? I disagree that the reason the Clippers failed to beat Houston when they had the opportunity was because Reddick was running around trying to guard Harden and it tired him out.
Cleverness
07-12-2015, 01:03 AM
If you put CP on the Warriors they're still the best defense in the league and an elite offense.
They would face...
Pelicans
Grizzlies with blind Conley and injured Allen
Rockets
Cavs without Kyrie and Love
His toughest individual matchups would be Dellavedova and Terry.
If you don't think CP can win in this situation than you're disrespecting the shit out of him. He's never faced competition that weak, never been on a team as deep as the Warriors and never been on an a great defense.
Pelicans beat the Spurs
Grizzlies were inspired by Conley's mask, helping them win 2 games. Allen played his heart out, but benched because he couldn't hit open jumpers
Rockets beat the Clippers lol
Nobody needs to think if CP3 can win in this situation or not.. it was already been answered when he lost in the 2nd round again vs the Rockets you listed above:facepalm
Flopping can only take CP3 so far... but he is great at it and on paper, his supporting cast is arguably more stacked than the Warriors with DeAndre flopping, so he has a good chance to get to the finals next year
iznogood
07-12-2015, 01:10 AM
I disagree that the reason the Clippers failed to beat Houston when they had the opportunity was because Reddick was running around trying to guard Harden and it tired him out.
Maybe you missed my point, I was trying to say the Clippers lost the game because they were all tired because their team lacked depth. I only used JJ as an example of how weak their team actually was if they had to have JJ guard Harden.
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