Embiid having 2nd injury, will miss season

[Nash]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep-sixer/Embiid-likely-to-miss-season-after-2d-surgery.html

:(

[dirkdiggler41]

Oden 2. Glad they drafted Okafor.

[BlakFrankWhite]

He had Top 10 GOAT potential. ..FFS

[RedBlackAttack]

Terrible news for fans of basketball. :(

His career is now looking very bleak.

[Legends66NBA7]

Man, I really wanted to see that Okafor/Embiid/Noel this season.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Poor guy.

This frustrates me, I can't imagine how it is for him.

[ElPigto]

:( :(

[warriorfan]

damn

[Westbrook0]

Dang, he plans on having a second injury? Why would you do that on purpose?

"The Philadelphia 76ers have announced that rookie center and top draft pick Joel Embiid is preparing to have a second injury before the season begins, which they expect will keep him out for the 2015-16 season.

Sixers GM Sam Hinkie said it was a tough decision to make, but that intentionally injuring their star center will better help their rebuilding process.

[KG215]

Well, now it's looking like they did the smart thing in drafting Okafor. Embiid's ceiling is quite a bit higher in my opinion, but if he's going to miss the entirety of what should've been his rookie and second seasons, then I'm not sure he'll ever have a viable NBA career.

[Nash]

Dang, he plans on having a second injury? Why would you do that on purpose?

"The Philadelphia 76ers have announced that rookie center and top draft pick Joel Embiid is preparing to have a second injury before the season begins, which they expect will keep him out for the 2015-16 season.

Sixers GM Sam Hinkie said it was a tough decision to make, but that intentionally injuring their star center will better help their rebuilding process.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

:applause: :applause:

[Phenith]

Dang, he plans on having a second injury? Why would you do that on purpose?

"The Philadelphia 76ers have announced that rookie center and top draft pick Joel Embiid is preparing to have a second injury before the season begins, which they expect will keep him out for the 2015-16 season.

Sixers GM Sam Hinkie said it was a tough decision to make, but that intentionally injuring their star center will better help their rebuilding process.

This is awesome, made my day, lol

[Detroit]

Dang, he plans on having a second injury? Why would you do that on purpose?

"The Philadelphia 76ers have announced that rookie center and top draft pick Joel Embiid is preparing to have a second injury before the season begins, which they expect will keep him out for the 2015-16 season.

Sixers GM Sam Hinkie said it was a tough decision to make, but that intentionally injuring their star center will better help their rebuilding process.
:D

[Smook B]

Dang, he plans on having a second injury? Why would you do that on purpose?

"The Philadelphia 76ers have announced that rookie center and top draft pick Joel Embiid is preparing to have a second injury before the season begins, which they expect will keep him out for the 2015-16 season.

Sixers GM Sam Hinkie said it was a tough decision to make, but that intentionally injuring their star center will better help their rebuilding process.

:roll:

[hawksdogsbraves]

Well, now it's looking like they did the smart thing in drafting Okafor. Embiid's ceiling is quite a bit higher in my opinion, but if he's going to miss the entirety of what should've been his rookie and second seasons, then I'm not sure he'll ever have a viable NBA career.

He only played about half of his freshman year at Kansas too, and only like 20mpg to boot.

Unfortunately the writing is pretty much on the wall for Embiid.

[bigkingsfan]

Lets swap picks.

[SwishSquared]

Dang, this really is unfortunate for Embiid and for fans of the game. Embiid may be toast, but best wishes to his recovery. Maybe he'll turn out healthy after this second surgery. Doesn't look good, but I guess that's why Hinkie hoards picks.

He had an instagram post with #Trustmeortrusttheprocess, which makes me wonder if he would have rather waited it out while the 76ers want the second surgery in hopes of having a better chance of a successful recovery. Total speculation on my part, though.

[Tycriss]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/98/files/2015/06/joel-oden.jpg

[QuebecBaller]

The 2017 ROTY will be a guy drafted in 2014 :rolleyes:

[FireDavidKahn]

Stick a fork in him.

Greg Oden was more durable than this guy

[KiiiiNG]

Now maybe this clown won't be such an arrogant prick on twitter.

Obviously everyone deserves to be healthy, but this clown might be humbled in the process and it might help in life. Forget basketball, I worry about this young mans future. He doesn't have his head on straight.

[jzek]

The 2017 ROTY will be a guy drafted in 2014 :rolleyes:

That's *IF* he'll play in 2017. Plenty of time to get another season-ending injury...

[Braincells]

I biid you farewell.

[Westbrook0]

Now maybe this clown won't be such an arrogant prick on twitter.

Obviously everyone deserves to be healthy, but this clown might be humbled in the process and it might help in life. Forget basketball, I worry about this young mans future. He doesn't have his head on straight.

WTF you talking about? :biggums:

Dude is a funny, laid-back and goofy guy. There's nothing wrong with him. In fact, he is much more positive in his situation than most would be.

[ElPigto]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/98/files/2015/06/joel-oden.jpg

At least Greg played a few games, this guy can't even get on the court.

[KiiiiNG]

WTF you talking about? :biggums:

Dude is a funny, laid-back and goofy guy. There's nothing wrong with him. In fact, he is much more positive in his situation than most would be.
https://twitter.com/JoelEmbiid/status/590623623112749058

He's lost.

[Clifton]

Didn't Blake Griffin miss his entire first season? Jared Jeffries did too I believe. Neither has had injury problems since then. I'm sure there are others.

Granted, this is a seven footer. Things look a lot bleaker for someone that size.

[Carbine]

He will enter his age 22 season next year. Hes still young as hell.

[imnew09]

Shame on those fkers who laughed at this. This is sad man especially for someone who has trained so hard and much in his entire life to be a Nba player

[konex]

This is why you never want the freakishly huge guys. It's just not natural to be that big and be an athlete. Glad he got his money though. Imagine if this happened before he got drafted

[konex]

Didn't Blake Griffin miss his entire first season? Jared Jeffries did too I believe. Neither has had injury problems since then. I'm sure there are others.

Granted, this is a seven footer. Things look a lot bleaker for someone that size.

Blake didn't have foot problems, did he? Big men with foot problems do not last...

[FireDavidKahn]

He will enter his age 22 season next year. Hes still young as hell.
Ya, you need you read up on injuries to the navicular bone in the foot. It's pretty much THE worst injury that you can get in your foot. It's the same injury that Yao had. Embiid is also 300 pounds. His foot is always going to be an issue.

[Shade8780]

This is sad :( I was so excited to see Embiid play. Could have taken LeBron's place at #1 sometime.

[Carbine]

Embiid is NOT 300 pounds.

[RoseCity07]

Been through this with Greg Oden. It's horrible.

I read on twitter that some think this is career threatening. I thought they had better procedures today to repair feet. I think Bill Walton had problems like this but they didn't treat it correctly.

[FireDavidKahn]

Embiid is NOT 300 pounds.
LOL, ok. 275 apparently. That's so much better.:rolleyes:

[longtime lurker]

Don't worry 76ers trust the process

[RoseCity07]

LOL, ok. 275 apparently. That's so much better.:rolleyes:

It is a huge difference actually. Carry an extra 10 pounds on a run and you'll notice a huge difference.

[Carbine]

The sample size with the injury is so small that you can't just assume because a few others couldn't recover from it, that he can't recover from it.

There are also instances of tall guys having this injury and playing productive years afterwards. Mchale had it in 87 I think. Few others played afterwards.

With today's medical advancements, it's seriously foolish to think he's done. He could be done, he could come back healthy. It's unknown.

[Fudge]

LOL, ok. 275 apparently. That's so much better.:rolleyes:
Iz you retarded, my *****?

Serious question.

[FireDavidKahn]

It is a huge difference actually. Carry an extra 10 pounds on a run and you'll notice a huge difference.
I have and used to be a marathon runner. 10 pounds to a 160 LB'er, like I was during my running days =/= 10 pounds to a 300 LB'er.

Just to put it into numbers so it is easier to undeerstand...

10 pounds added/taken away to a 160 LB'er = 6%
10 pounds added/taken away to a 300 LB'er = 3%

It's all relative to how heavy you currently are and 10 pounds for Embiid is hardly anything.

[Bosnian Sajo]

That blows, this has Greg Oden written all over it.

[T_L_P]

How many players have essentially missed their first couple of years and returned to be productive players?

Big-Z?

[DMAVS41]

Damn...that sucks.

Good thing Hinkie has 4 first rounders coming this year with the potential to have a top 3 pick and a top 10 pick (Lakers).

Sixers will be fine regardless, but I wouldn't write off Embiid completely yet...he might be a career backup or something. Nothing wrong with that given the Sixers situation.

[BlakFrankWhite]

He could have been the best player in the league :(

[RoseCity07]

I have and used to be a marathon runner. 10 pounds to a 160 LB'er, like I was during my running days =/= 10 pounds to a 300 LB'er.

Just to put it into numbers so it is easier to undeerstand...

10 pounds added/taken away to a 160 LB'er = 6%
10 pounds added/taken away to a 300 LB'er = 3%

It's all relative to how heavy you currently are and 10 pounds for Embiid is hardly anything.

I may be reading this wrong but the percentage of body weight doesn't really matter.

For the argument, say I match the 6% of the 160 pounder. Losing 6% on the 300 pounder. Embiid would be 282 pounds. Still a problem. If two people lose the same percentage of weight that does not really tell you if the weight loss is significant. I think the total weight of the person matters more.

By this logic Embiid would feel the same difference going from 300 to 282 as the 160 pound man going down to 150 pounds.

18=10 pounds for the heavier person?

[GOBB]

LOL, ok. 275 apparently. That's so much better.:rolleyes:

If he was his college weight you'd probably say the same thing "thats not much better". :oldlol:

[FireDavidKahn]

I may be reading this wrong but the percentage of body weight doesn't really matter.

For the argument, say I match the 6% of the 160 pounder. Losing 6% on the 300 pounder. Embiid would be 282 pounds. Still a problem. If two people lose the same percentage of weight that does not really tell you if the weight loss is significant. I think the total weight of the person matters more.

By this logic Embiid would feel the same difference going from 300 to 282 as the 160 pound man going down to 150 pounds.

18=10 pounds for the heavier person?
That's exactly right.

[FireDavidKahn]

If he was his college weight you'd probably say the same thing "thats not much better". :oldlol:
25 LB's is significant :D

Listen, I want Embiid to succeed but the odds are heavily stacked against him at this point.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Sixers should trade him to Phoenix and let their medical staff work their magic before it's too late. Don't be selfish.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Damn...that sucks.

Good thing Hinkie has 4 first rounders coming this year with the potential to have a top 3 pick and a top 10 pick (Lakers).

Sixers will be fine regardless, but I wouldn't write off Embiid completely yet...he might be a career backup or something. Nothing wrong with that given the Sixers situation.

career backup?

He thinks Sixers is his team....his ego is massive

[GOBB]

25 LB's is significant :D

Listen, I want Embiid to succeed but the odds are heavily stacked against him at this point.

They are. I hope someone breaks down the problem with his foot. I heard his foot is fine, he isn't in pain. But the foot didnt heal properly for long time health reasons. :confusedshrug: Dont shoot messenger, I really have no clue about this injury and why it cant heal. Still would have drafted him knowing this because I'm not too impressed with the guys who went after him.

Would rather a healthy Embiid over Okafor tho. Oh well. I didn't see Sixers winning much had he played anyway. Got them down for 26 wins.

[RoseCity07]

That's exactly right.

The reason I don't think this works is because I don't think bones work that way. The heavier you are the more of an impact weight loss has in regards to bone stress.

Let's say the heavier guy is on the verge of injury because of stress. Every pound lost is critical for the heavier guy. Each pound for the guy with no risk of injury is pretty much insignificant.

[DMAVS41]

career backup?

He thinks Sixers is his team....his ego is massive

Well...I hope it works for him.

I'm just being realistic. If the dude is a chronic injury case...his career might be relegated to 20 minutes a game off the bench if he's gonna stay in the league.

[Smook A.]

Dammit. It's sad that all these guys with huge potential never get to reach their ceiling because of some stupid injuries :(

Embiid is gonna end up being another Greg Oden, sadly. That Jahlil Okafor pick by Philly is making a lot of sense right now.

[FireDavidKahn]

The reason I don't think this works is because I don't think bones work that way. The heavier you are the more of an impact weight loss has in regards to bone stress.

Let's say the heavier guy is on the verge of injury because of stress. Every pound lost is critical for the heavier guy. Each pound for the guy with no risk of injury is pretty much insignificant.
Ya, sure, that's a fair point. You also need to factor in that bigger guys also have bigger frames (bones). Nothing is black and white so I guess I shouldn't have said it that way

[GOBB]

That Jahlil Okafor pick by Philly is making a lot of sense right now.

Guarantee they draft Okafor even if Embiid was healthy and Lakers took Russell. He was a BPA pick that just happen to help this current situation.

[DonDadda59]

A whole generation of potentially great bigs has been eradicated by injury. Yao, Bynum, Oden, and now Embiid. Crazy that happens as sports medicine advances.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Damn... Looks like he'll go down with those players who never even came close to materialize their apparent potential.

[ClipperRevival]

A whole generation of potentially great bigs has been eradicated by injury. Yao, Bynum, Oden, and now Embiid. Crazy that happens as sports medicine advances.

Humans aren't supposed to be that big. Gravity is a bi*ch. And these guys are legit 7 footers, not 6'10" guys. Truly giant men. It is a shame as I think all of them could've been great.

[chocolatethunder]

I have and used to be a marathon runner. 10 pounds to a 160 LB'er, like I was during my running days =/= 10 pounds to a 300 LB'er.

Just to put it into numbers so it is easier to undeerstand...

10 pounds added/taken away to a 160 LB'er = 6%
10 pounds added/taken away to a 300 LB'er = 3%

It's all relative to how heavy you currently are and 10 pounds for Embiid is hardly anything.

This is totally off topic but when you say marathon runner what do you mean by that? Were you someone who "ran" marathons in 4:00+ or did you actually compete? Just curious because I'm a runner and people tell me they run all the time and then tell me what they "run" and it's not really running, it's jogging at best. I'm not being a smartass, I'm really just asking a question. thanks

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Just hope he will be like Big Z, who had a lot of foot problems early on but then got healthy and was fine for the rest of his career.

But not being able to play a game in 2 years is concerning. (And from all accounts he payed very little in college too.)

[Borat_Sagdyev]

Just hope he will be like Big Z, who had a lot of foot problems early on but then got healthy and was fine for the rest of his career.

But not being able to play a game in 2 years is concerning. (And from all accounts he payed very little in college too.)

Agree.

Ilgauskas offers perhaps the most hopeful outcome for Embiid. Ilgauskas' navicular injury -- which kept him from playing during 1996-97, his rookie season -- was again suffered five games into the 1998-99 season, limited him to 29 games over the next three seasons.

But remarkably, after returning to the court in December 2001, Ilgauskas played at least 78 games each of the following five seasons, moving past his foot issues to become a two-time All-Star. He remained a contributor through his retirement in 2011 at age 36.
Source (http://www.brewhoop.com/2014/6/20/5826694/taking-a-closer-look-at-the-joel-embiid-injury-how-bad-might-it-be)

[christian1923]

Sam Hinkie is such a moron. We all saw this coming.

[christian1923]

He could have been the best player in the league :(
Oh stop it

[RedBlackAttack]

Just hope he will be like Big Z, who had a lot of foot problems early on but then got healthy and was fine for the rest of his career.

But not being able to play a game in 2 years is concerning. (And from all accounts he payed very little in college too.)
Big Z did overcome some huge obstacles with his feet, but he had to completely revamp his game for that comeback to happen. Most people don't remember, but before all the injuries to his feet, Zydrunas had quite a bit of bounce and was very fluid/athletic for his size.

Zydrunas Ilgauskas - 1998 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-94M_rZRhA)

After the injuries, he was a stationary player. He made it work because he was so skilled and dedicated... but he was never the player he could have been.

I've been maybe Embiid's biggest supporter on here, but the odds are beginning to go against him. The list of big guys who've missed their first two seasons due to foot/leg injuries and got back to All-Star form... almost nonexistent.

[imdaman99]

It doesn't matter, 76ers will tank for another 5 years. Hopefully he's playing by then.

[Foster5k]

Hopefully, Embiid doesn't join a list of what could have been players. I'm really rooting for this guy. As others have said, being 7 feet tall is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, you have a great advantage over the competition. On the other, you have a greater chance of injury.

I was always amazed at how Shaq was able to be so athletic and so durable at his size. Shaq's body is one of the most remarkable things nature has ever created.

[Akrazotile]

This is why you never want the freakishly huge guys. It's just not natural to be that big and be an athlete. Glad he got his money though. Imagine if this happened before he got drafted


Why are you glad he got money to take a roster spot from some other aspiring NBA player who's actually healthy and could practice and play?

[christian1923]

Hopefully, Embiid doesn't join a list of what could have been players. I'm really rooting for this guy. As others have said, being 7 feet tall is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, you have a great advantage over the competition. On the other, you have a greater chance of injury.

I was always amazed at how Shaq was able to be so athletic and so durable at his size. Shaq's body is one of the most remarkable things nature has ever created.
God*

[Fallen Angel]

People are so soon to react negativity. Everyone knew he was getting foot surgery a month ago, people assumed he would miss the entire season because Philadelphia wanted him 100% before he makes his NBA debut.

This man grew like 3 inches and gained weight to his upper body, of course there would be a setback with his initial surgery.

You idiots act like he broke his foot, again. Newsflash, this dude hasn't been doing shit but workout and rehabilitate since his first surgery.

[Akrazotile]

God*


http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[Fallen Angel]

The surgery he's getting:

http://www.healthline.com/health/bone-graft#Overview1

tldr: no his foot isn't broken (just like I said), there was complications with the screws in his foot because of his growth (just like I said)

Why am I so amazing?

[gyu]

Called it. Drafting Okafor is insurance for if Embiid doesn't pan out. Good selection Philly :applause:

[SwishSquared]

People are so soon to react negativity. Everyone knew he was getting foot surgery a month ago, people assumed he would miss the entire season because Philadelphia wanted him 100% before he makes his NBA debut.

This man grew like 3 inches and gained weight to his upper body, of course there would be a setback with his initial surgery.

You idiots act like he broke his foot, again. Newsflash, this dude hasn't been doing shit but workout and rehabilitate since his first surgery.So he's doing a similar surgery for his navicular bone that KD did for his Jones fracture, right? Iirc KD had bone graft surgery after not healing properly from his first procedure.

I remember Zach Lowe tweeted when that second surgery was announced, the health pros he talked to said there was a relatively high rate of success for that surgery in fixing a Jones fracture.

EDIT: Forgot to put that I wonder what the success rate of bone grafts are particularly for full healing of the navicular bone.

[ShackEelOKneel]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep-sixer/Embiid-likely-to-miss-season-after-2d-surgery.html

:(

First Oden, now his son. :(

[No_Look604]

Hopefully, Embiid doesn't join a list of what could have been players. I'm really rooting for this guy. As others have said, being 7 feet tall is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, you have a great advantage over the competition. On the other, you have a greater chance of injury.

I was always amazed at how Shaq was able to be so athletic and so durable at his size. Shaq's body is one of the most remarkable things nature has ever created.

Yup he had a marvelous dong too, I'm sure of it. :rolleyes:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Man, and I was thinking w/ Noel, Embiid, Okafor, and...Stauskas, the Sixers would actually win like 25+ games for once.

Guess not anymore.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Damn man.

[JohnnySic]

He's only 21. He still has a chance.