As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.

[lilteapot]

Has there ever been a period in NBA history where there were so many great scorers at once? AI, TMac, Kobe...

[TheMarkMadsen]

yeah these days 27 ppg will win you the scoring title

Iverson was always good for 30+ ppg, T Mac as well

from 01-10 there was only one time the scoring leader averaged less than 30 per game

from 10-15 there has only been on time the scoring leader averaged more than 30 per game

[Kvnzhangyay]

Yeah when MJ played, except Mj won all of them

[Westbrook0]

Has there ever been a period in NBA history where there were so many great scorers at once? AI, TMac, Kobe...

In 1960-61:

1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ PHW 38.4
2. Elgin Baylor* ▪ LAL 34.8
3. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 30.5
4. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 27.9

1961-62:

Points Per Game
1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ PHW 50.4
2. Walt Bellamy* ▪ CHP 31.6
3. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 31.1
4. Jerry West* ▪ LAL 30.8
5. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 30.8

1962-63:

1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ SFW 44.8
2. Elgin Baylor* ▪ LAL 34.0
3. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 28.4
4. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 28.3
5. Walt Bellamy* ▪ CHZ 27.9

1963-64:

Points Per Game
1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ SFW 36.9
2. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 31.4
3. Jerry West* ▪ LAL 28.7
4. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 27.4
5. Walt Bellamy* ▪ BAL 27.0


etc.

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe never cared about them. Willingly gifted one to durant one year on the last day by sitting out

Hes lost a ton of them by a fraction. Now imagine if he thought of them like rings or cared about them as much as a guy like mj.. he'd have won it in 2003,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2012,2013

[DonDadda59]

Kobe never cared about them. Willingly gifted one to durant one year on the last day by sitting out

Hes lost a ton of them by a fraction. Now imagine if he thought of them like rings or cared about them as much as a guy like mj.. he'd have won it in 2003,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2012,2013

And MJ has more scoring titles AND more rings :yaohappy:

Bean overrated as phuck. Half the scoring titles of Iverson and Durant.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Still one of the GOAT scorers.



Has there ever been a period in NBA history where there were so many great scorers at once? AI, TMac, Kobe...

Mid-to-late 80's... Jordan, Bird, King, Moses, Dantley, Nique, Kareem, English, Dale Ellis, Chuck, Malone, McHale, Drexler, Hakeem, Gervin...

[ShawkFactory]

Kobe never cared about them. Willingly gifted one to durant one year on the last day by sitting out

Hes lost a ton of them by a fraction. Now imagine if he thought of them like rings or cared about them as much as a guy like mj.. he'd have won it in 2003,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2012,2013
Kobes had his shot to reach Jordan heights. Oh well.

On to the next.

[kennethgriffin]

And MJ has more scoring titles AND more rings :yaohappy:

Bean overrated as phuck. Half the scoring titles of Iverson and Durant.


So you say jordan has more rings. Then say kobes overrated and is lesser than durant/iverson who both own zero rings


Logic... none seen here


Btw kobe was never as obsessed with a loser award like the scoring title

Jordan was the only guy to do it while winning because the bulls were built on defense. Jordan also had pippen to do the playmaking ball handling duties.

Mj could focus entirely on scoring without a care of how 25 shots a game would interfere with the teams offensive chemistry. Sonce ot wasnt built on cohesive stars sacrificing numbers. But more so defensive specialists that were happy to contribute whatever they could offensovely.

Pau gasol pouted all the time and he was getting 19ppg... pippen was enamored with the idea of even just getting 16ppg. As long as he could be the main stopper on defense and dish out 7-8 dimes


Kobe never had a guy like that. Especially with shaq

[DonDadda59]

So you say jordan has more rings. Then say kobes overrated and is lesser than durant/iverson who both own zero rings


Logic... none seen here

2<4... perfect logic :confusedshrug:



Btw kobe was never as obsessed with a loser award like the scoring title

Prove it.


Jordan was the only guy to do it while winning because the bulls were built on defense. Jordan also had pippen to do the playmaking ball handling duties.

Mj could focus entirely on scoring without a care of how 25 shots a game would interfere with the teams offensive chemistry. Sonce ot wasnt built on cohesive stars sacrificing numbers. But more so defensive specialists that were happy to contribute whatever they could offensovely.

:facepalm

Kobe and Jordan both played SG in the triangle under Phil Jackson. One guy had 10 scoring titles in 15 seasons (5 MVPs, 6 rings, 6 finals MVPs), the other has 2 scoring titles in 19 seasons (1 MVP, 5 rings, 2 finals MVPs).



Pau gasol pouted all the time and he was getting 19ppg... pippen was enamored with the idea of even just getting 16ppg. As long as he could be the main stopper on defense and dish out 7-8 dimes

You spout a whole lot of bullshit. How do you know what Kobe obsessed over or what Pippen was enamored with?

Scottie had 4 seasons playing alongside Jordan where he averaged 19 PPG or more, Pau had 0 playing alongside Bean. So what the phuck are you talking about? :biggums:

[catch24]

His four straight 50 point games, 62 in 3 quarters against an NBA finalist, 81 point game (best of the modern era), and overall 32,000 points don't tell you how dominant he was?

[dreamwarrior]

He never cared about stats. He'd sit out 4th quarters if his team was blowing out their opponents.

[lilteapot]

His four straight 50 point games, 62 in 3 quarters against an NBA finalist, 81 point game (best of the modern era), and overall 32,000 points don't tell you how dominant he was?
What are you even talking about?

[RidonKs]

probably more worth noting that he went to the finals in each of the three seasons following his two consecutive scoring titles

[theoneneo]

Well it's like this. The time for Kobe to rack up tons of scoring titles would have to have been from 2000-2008. If Kobe wasn't playing on a team like the Lakers you'd have to think he would have won more than 2 of em, instead he won championships:confusedshrug: MJ once said he'd cut 10 points off his scoring average for one more championship.

Just consider the fact that come post season Kobe was giving you a consistent 30-6-6 always, that's all that matters.

[Mr. Jabbar]

from 01-10 there was only one time the scoring leader averaged less than 30 per game

from 10-15 there has only been on time the scoring leader averaged more than 30 per game

the colluding era. just 1 ball.

[comerb]

He probably would have won more if he didn't play with Shaq. Of course, he would have 3 less rings...so i doubt he minds.

[Stu Jackson]

kobe is not a dominant scorer he just forced the issue

lebron is not either

[TheMarkMadsen]

great we've got a new poster digging up old Kobe threads to hate on him

you'll fit in great around here

[Stu Jackson]

great we've got a new poster digging up old Kobe threads to hate on him

you'll fit in great around here
people on here think guys like him and tim duncan and lebron james are top 10 players

need to balance out stupidity with a harsh dose of reality

[TheMarkMadsen]

people on here think guys like him and tim duncan are top 10 players

need to balance out stupidity with a harsh dose of reality

they most certainly are..

there aren't 10 players in NBA history with better careers than either of those guys..

[Stu Jackson]

they most certainly are..

there aren't 10 players in NBA history with better careers than either of those guys..
who the hell mentioned careers

better is BETTER who cares about careers

neither is better than shaq neither is better than mj and those arent the only 2 cats in the top 10

[TheMarkMadsen]

who the hell mentioned careers

better is BETTER who cares about careers



:oldlol: :oldlol:

can't wait to see your top 10

MJ
Shaq
T Mac
Penny
Grant Hill
KD
Baylor
Wilt
West

probably not that far off..

[Stu Jackson]

:oldlol: :oldlol:

can't wait to see your top 10

MJ
Shaq
T Mac
Penny
Grant Hill
KD
Baylor
Wilt
West

probably not that far off..

mj
shaq
earvin johnson
the sky captain
larry bird
moses malone
bill walton
david robinson
akeem
doctor j

tmac isnt top 10 but kd will be when hes done

[stalkerforlife]

Didn't he finish top 5 like 11 times? Top 3 a bunch of other times? Consistently great.

[Stu Jackson]

Didn't he finish top 5 like 11 times? Top 3 a bunch of other times? Consistently great.
can be great if youre not a legend of the game

[Naero]

Scoring titles = one of the most overrated accolades. I'll take almost any of Kevin Durant's scoring over any singular accolade notched by Kobe and Allen Iverson because of efficience.

Scoring appeals are mainly impressive because it's a superficiality that to take at face value--either for confirmation bias or because they have a perfunctory thought process that neglects to critically contextualize.

Most people are too enamored by flashiness over substance that they do not put on their GM-thinking caps on and break down players well. If Allen Iverson's 39.8%-shooting scoring title enhances the resume in the eyes of a GM, more faithful suppositions are that the GM is concerned more about selling seats in game than winning games that season. :rolleyes: