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NZStreetBaller
07-14-2015, 06:27 AM
After 2010 they have literally got worse and worse.
Champions to
playoffs to
barely making playoffs kobe injured. Worst beating in laker playoff history to
not making playoffs to
nearly bottom of the table.

And we are closing in on kobes career resorting to praying on our rookies.

Are the lakers destined to be the western knicks. I sure hope not

MMM
07-14-2015, 09:53 AM
lakers management has lived off kobe as one laker fan said recently and hid a lot of the underlying deficiencies. They've been doing a terrible job of transitioning into the post kobe era but Kobe isn't the best person to necessarily usher in the next step for the Lakers

gts
07-14-2015, 11:45 AM
They've had the injury bug last 3 years...

imnew09
07-14-2015, 11:47 AM
After 2010 they have literally got worse and worse.
Champions to
playoffs to
barely making playoffs kobe injured. Worst beating in laker playoff history to
not making playoffs to
nearly bottom of the table.

And we are closing in on kobes career resorting to praying on our rookies.

Are the lakers destined to be the western knicks. I sure hope not


When was the last time the Knicks were relevant??

Lakers won back to back not too long ago dumb a$$z negged

Wade's Rings
07-14-2015, 11:52 AM
Maybe for the last 3 Years. They made the 2nd Round in 2011 & 2012.

Droid101
07-14-2015, 11:56 AM
Lakers win ring in 2002.
Perform relatively poorly the following year (lose to hated Spurs).
Retool with some ring chasers the year after (Malone/Payton), still don't win.
Dump everything for assets.
Wait a couple of seasons.
Trade assets for All star caliber player to put next to current star.
Win new ring 7 years after previous ring.

Now:
Lakers win ring in 2010.
Perform relatively poorly the following year (Dallas sweep).
Retool with some ring chasers shortly after (Nash, Dwert), still don't win.
Dump everything for assets (the tank/1 and 2 year contracts for everyone).
Wait a couple of seasons.
???


We'll see folks. We'll see.

ShawkFactory
07-14-2015, 01:14 PM
Lakers win ring in 2002.
Perform relatively poorly the following year (lose to hated Spurs).
Retool with some ring chasers the year after (Malone/Payton), still don't win.
Dump everything for assets.
Wait a couple of seasons.
Trade assets for All star caliber player to put next to current star.
Win new ring 7 years after previous ring.

Now:
Lakers win ring in 2010.
Perform relatively poorly the following year (Dallas sweep).
Retool with some ring chasers shortly after (Nash, Dwert), still don't win.
Dump everything for assets (the tank/1 and 2 year contracts for everyone).
Wait a couple of seasons.
???


We'll see folks. We'll see.
Who's the current star this time?!

Droid101
07-14-2015, 01:20 PM
Who's the current star this time?!
Exactly. Russell or Randle better make the leap soonish. Big shoes to fill.

JohnnySic
07-14-2015, 01:29 PM
They seem to have lost some of that ability to score that big free agent like they always could in the past.

In today's world, players can make big money (endorsements) anywhere; they dont have to play in a big market like LA. That takes away some of the cache of playing there.

ShawkFactory
07-14-2015, 01:30 PM
Exactly. Russell or Randle better make the leap soonish. Big shoes to fill.
I'm not sure they're superstar level players. Good ones for sure but not someone like Kobe (or even close to it) that you build a dynasty around.

Rocketswin2013
07-14-2015, 01:35 PM
It's called a rebuild.

Fallen Angel
07-14-2015, 01:36 PM
From what I can remember, the only asset the Lakers have gained since 2010 has been the Rockets' 2015 1st Rounder.

That's barely an asset considering who they drafted.

Droid101
07-14-2015, 01:45 PM
From what I can remember, the only asset the Lakers have gained since 2010 has been the Rockets' 2015 1st Rounder.

That's barely an asset considering who they drafted.
"Asset" might not have been the best term. What asset did they get in the 2005-2008 era? Bynum, Crittendon, and Kwame's expiring contract.

Now we have Kobe's expiring contract, Russell, and Randle. Much better than the above in my opinion.

rmt
07-14-2015, 01:50 PM
They seem to have lost some of that ability to score that big free agent like they always could in tha past.

In today's world, players can make big money (endorsements) anywhere; they dont have to play in a big market like LA. That takes away some of the cache of playing there.

It might even be a negative since living in LA is so expensive. Can't imagine the housing expense. Meanwhile, Parker builds a HUGE house with wine cellar in San Antonio for relative peanuts (compared to LA housing) while paying no state tax.

Levity
07-14-2015, 01:52 PM
My major qualm with Laker's management has been their inability to sign B level players to round out a team. They typically sign scrubs or bench players and give them bigger roles than any other team would and just relied on Kobe and Pau to keep them at a championship level

However, Mitch and company are fantastic at going after big names via trades (not so much in free agency though. because who was our last big name FA pick up? Artest....?), but other than that, their front office is lacking when it comes to creating a "complete" team

kamil
07-14-2015, 02:01 PM
After 2010 they have literally got worse and worse.
Champions to
playoffs to
barely making playoffs kobe injured. Worst beating in laker playoff history to
not making playoffs to
nearly bottom of the table.

Good.

Mr. Jabbar
07-14-2015, 02:07 PM
putting scrubs around kobe to win championships hasn't worked since he began his decline/injured. lakers plan B was 50 year old nash, go figure..

Rooster
07-14-2015, 02:11 PM
After 2010 they have literally got worse and worse.
Champions to
playoffs to
barely making playoffs kobe injured. Worst beating in laker playoff history to
not making playoffs to
nearly bottom of the table.

And we are closing in on kobes career resorting to praying on our rookies.

Are the lakers destined to be the western knicks. I sure hope not

A couple of things set us back.

The CP3 trade was supposed to retool us but it was cockblocked by Cuban so Stern killed it.

Jim Buss cockblocked Phil Jackson because he does not want to work under him and hired Pringles to employ an uptempo offense when we don't have the right personnel to run it.

West-Side
07-14-2015, 02:13 PM
We sign Durant, Hibbert resurrects and Randle/D'Alpha become studs.
That's the plan my friends.
Depressing and desperate, I know but us Laker fans are optimistic bunch. :pimp:

Hibbert
Randle
Durant
Clarkson
D'Alpha

Magic 32
07-14-2015, 02:13 PM
After 2010 they have literally got worse and worse.
Champions to
playoffs to
barely making playoffs kobe injured. Worst beating in laker playoff history to
not making playoffs to
nearly bottom of the table.

And we are closing in on kobes career resorting to praying on our rookies.

Are the lakers destined to be the western knicks. I sure hope not

This would be valid if not for that small CP3 incident.

West-Side
07-14-2015, 02:16 PM
A couple of things set us back.

The CP3 trade was supposed to retool us but it was cockblocked by Cuban so Stern killed it.

Jim Buss cockblocked Phil Jackson because he does not want to work under him and hired Pringles to employ an uptempo offense when we don't have the right personnel to run it.

THANK YOU.
This is exactly why we are here today.

Pringles tried to run an uptempo offense with a 40 year old Steve Nash and an aging Kobe. Ran Kobe into the ground, ended Nash's career; Dwight is a bitch who ran because our back court basically retired and Pau eventually left too.

Not hiring Phil to coach that team was the single biggest mistake our FO has made in the last 20 years. Just laughable.

It never made any damn sense to run D'Antoni's offense with that roster.

Smoke117
07-14-2015, 02:16 PM
After 2010 they have literally got worse and worse.
Champions to
playoffs to
barely making playoffs kobe injured. Worst beating in laker playoff history to
not making playoffs to
nearly bottom of the table.

And we are closing in on kobes career resorting to praying on our rookies.

Are the lakers destined to be the western knicks. I sure hope not

Yes. They will be the league joke the next 10 years.

triangleoffense
07-14-2015, 02:46 PM
lol gtfo "loser virus"

everyone knows that strain is only pathological to the Knicks.

pastis
07-14-2015, 02:55 PM
lakers are fine. so Russel and co probably wont become all-time greats, but they still can develop to legit all-stars and even make some all-nba teams.

more than half the league would immediatly trade for lakers prospects

lakers are in the rebuild-circle. tanking 2 years, 2 top prospects, another 1-2 years before becoming a legit contender.

also....for example Dirk looked like a bust his first season as well. give them at least 1 full season before judging them and not 2 SL games

ShawkFactory
07-14-2015, 03:13 PM
putting scrubs around kobe to win championships hasn't worked since he began his decline/injured. lakers plan B was 50 year old nash, go figure..
And it didn't start working...ever?

Hey Yo
07-14-2015, 04:25 PM
A couple of things set us back.

The CP3 trade was supposed to retool us but it was cockblocked by Cuban so Stern killed it.

Jim Buss cockblocked Phil Jackson because he does not want to work under him and hired Pringles to employ an uptempo offense when we don't have the right personnel to run it.
The league owned the Hornets and Stern did what was in their best interest.

[I]

Quickening
07-14-2015, 04:28 PM
As soon as Kobe turned 31-32 and lost his elite athleticism the Lakers have been irrelevant... if your team is built around a guy who thinks he is a superstar but doesn't match it on the court, you're struggling, see the Knicks with Melo.

Mr. Jabbar
07-14-2015, 04:47 PM
And it didn't start working...ever?

2009 & 2010.

TheMarkMadsen
07-14-2015, 04:48 PM
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]The league owned the Hornets and Stern did what was in their best interest.

[I]

AirTupac
07-14-2015, 04:53 PM
A couple of things set us back.

The CP3 trade was supposed to retool us but it was cockblocked by Cuban so Stern killed it.

Jim Buss cockblocked Phil Jackson because he does not want to work under him and hired Pringles to employ an uptempo offense when we don't have the right personnel to run it.

Why do people seem to forget that Jerry wanted MDA to be hired as well...

Droid101
07-14-2015, 04:59 PM
you'd have to be an idiot to actually believe this

Hornets would have ended up with Dragic, Kevin Martin and the 16th pick in the draft which is a hell of a lot better than Eric Gordan and Austin Rivers

Stern not only screwed the Lakers but he screwed the Hornets (now the Pelicans) as well
This. These idiots don't even know the terms of the trade.

They were way worse off with Kaman and Aminu (who both left as fast as possible) and an injured EG who asked to have the Pels NOT match his offer sheet from another team.

AirTupac
07-14-2015, 05:00 PM
They seem to have lost some of that ability to score that big free agent like they always could in the past.

In today's world, players can make big money (endorsements) anywhere; they dont have to play in a big market like LA. That takes away some of the cache of playing there.

You're right but Lakers still have the upper hand when it comes to endorsements and what not. They literally propell you to another level. Look at scrubs who played on the Lakers and become stars in the public eye. It still pays off to play in L.A. Both money wise and fame wise.

Nick Young.... engaged to one of the most popular artists today and is featured as a model himself on Forever 21.

Jordan Clarkson.... dating a supermodel


A lot more examples like this come across. LA is LA

Rooster
07-14-2015, 05:06 PM
Why do people seem to forget that Jerry wanted MDA to be hired as well...

That was Jim Buss version of story. According to Shelbourne, Jim Buss said his dad who was sick and battling cancer, picked Pringles because Phil Jackson is not that type of coach to rebuild a team.:facepalm

Well that does not make sense because they have Kobe, Dwight, Pau and Nash. Why would they be rebuilding at that time.:rolleyes:

Rooster
07-14-2015, 05:19 PM
you'd have to be an idiot to actually believe this

Hornets would have ended up with Dragic, Kevin Martin and the 16th pick in the draft which is a hell of a lot better than Eric Gordan and Austin Rivers

Stern not only screwed the Lakers but he screwed the Hornets (now the Pelicans) as well

One of the worst BS ever made in the NBA. Stern said they are not gonna interfere with the basketball aspect of that team then the trade went down and Cuban and Gilbert opened up their mouth and Stern nixed the trade for basketball reasons.

Hey Yo
07-14-2015, 05:31 PM
you'd have to be an idiot to actually believe this

Hornets would have ended up with Dragic, Kevin Martin and the 16th pick in the draft which is a hell of a lot better than Eric Gordan and Austin Rivers

Stern not only screwed the Lakers but he screwed the Hornets (now the Pelicans) as well
Last I checked, Pelicans future looks pretty good with AD wrapped up for years to come. Better than what would have been.

longtime lurker
07-14-2015, 05:32 PM
Loser virus, also known as Jim Buss syndrome.

Smoke117
07-14-2015, 05:32 PM
Laker fans still whining about not getting Chris Paul..:yaohappy:

Hey Yo
07-14-2015, 05:38 PM
You're right but Lakers still have the upper hand when it comes to endorsements and what not. They literally propell you to another level. Look at scrubs who played on the Lakers and become stars in the public eye. It still pays off to play in L.A. Both money wise and fame wise.

Nick Young.... engaged to one of the most popular artists today and is featured as a model himself on Forever 21.

Jordan Clarkson.... dating a supermodel


A lot more examples like this come across. LA is LA
That doesn't win you games though. Any logical NBA fan doesn't look at Young or Clarkson as stars. The average public person knows who Young and Clarkson only because who they are dating.

Their significant others are more popular that thy are.