D'Angelo Russell SL highlights vs Knicks

[Inferno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=875XRk2GGEM

:bowdown:

[senelcoolidge]

that's pretty bad. You can see that he can pass the ball, but his passes are forced almost like he's panicking. He's overthrowing passes, timing them bad, etc. Maybe when he has chemistry with his teammates some of those passes will look good.

[West-Side]

He looks and plays so much like Steph Curry, I'm actually excited.
None of those highlights concern me; the game is too fast for him right now, once it slows down he will be terrific.

[Lebron23]

He looks and plays so much like Steph Curry, I'm actually excited.
None of those highlights concern me; the game is too fast for him right now, once it slows down he will be terrific.


You are so F*cking Delusional. You might need a new pair of glasses, or contact lens.

[JZ600]

Lakers fan desperately trying to calm themselves by saying he will grow out of it and thrive, but deep down they are shitting themselves/nervous af/ banging their heads

[West-Side]

You are so F*cking Delusional. You might need a new pair of glasses, or contact lens.

The irony from the village idiot himself.
The way D'Angelo moves reminds me a lot of Curry. He isn't athletic or has an insane vertical. Watch the video and tell me you don't see Steph Curry? :rolleyes:

I'm not talking about the performance, I'm strictly talking about their physical identities. If you go back and watch Steph play in the SL; he made the exact same mistakes when he was young.

Now go back to eating LeBron's asshole.

[Lebron23]

Lakers fan desperately trying to calm themselves by saying he will grow out of it and thrive, but deep down they are shitting themselves/nervous af/ banging their heads


And that idiotic Kobe N*thugger compared him to Curry. At least Curry has better handles, and better range than this turnover Machine.

[West-Side]

You are a F*cking idiot. Curry is a better player than this guy. I don't see a Stephen Curry. All I see is a future NBA Draft Busts. Go F*ck yourself Kobe dickrider, and stop s*cking his 38 yrs.old C0ck.

F*ck you. You useless C*nt.

You're so predictable. :facepalm
No one said he plays like Curry; I said he moves a lot like Curry. They have a lot of physical similarities (not intangibles or skills). The video shows all of his poor plays in the game; so obviously he doesn't play like the MVP.

Your poor understanding of the English language is not my fault.

[West-Side]

And that idiotic Kobe N*thugger compared him to Curry. At least Curry has better handles, and better range than this turnover Machine.

Curry had quite a few 4 for 16 and 3 for 15 type shooting games in his first summer league. Maybe we should wait before calling someone a bust?

You see how Curry turned out, right? :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

You're so predictable. :facepalm
No one said he plays like Curry; I said he moves a lot like Curry. They have a lot of physical similarities (not intangibles or skills). The video shows all of his poor plays in the game; so obviously he doesn't play like the MVP.

Your poor understanding of the English language is not my fault.


Moves like Curry?? Just admit that the Lakers drafted a guy who's going to be out of this league in less than 5 years. I have been reading some comments about him, and watching this video he sucks worse than I thought.

[RRR3]

You're so predictable. :facepalm
No one said he plays like Curry; I said he moves a lot like Curry. They have a lot of physical similarities (not intangibles or skills). The video shows all of his poor plays in the game; so obviously he doesn't play like the MVP.

Your poor understanding of the English language is not my fault.

He looks and plays so much like Steph Curry, I'm actually excited.
None of those highlights concern me; the game is too fast for him right now, once it slows down he will be terrific.
:biggums:

[Lebron23]

Curry had quite a few 4 for 16 and 3 for 15 type shooting games in his first summer league. Maybe we should wait before calling someone a bust?

You see how Curry turned out, right? :oldlol:


Stephen Curry averaged 17.4 points, 4.6 rebounds and 4.2 assists in the 2009 NBA Summer League. He was way better than D'Angelo Russell.

[West-Side]

Moves like Curry?? Just admit that the Lakers drafted a guy who's going to be out of this league in less than 5 years. I have been reading some comments about him, and watching this video he sucks worse than I thought.

Dude, he's 19 years of age.
You're predicting his future after a few summer league games?
Seriously...

[West-Side]

:biggums:

Yes, he reminds me a lot of Steph. He's obviously no where near that level as of right now; but their approach to running a team is similar. He obviously lacks the intangibles and the skills of Steph as of right now; but their style of play of very similar to me.

[Lebron23]

Dude, he's 19 years of age.
You're predicting his future after a few summer league games?
Seriously...


If that guy is the Lakers starting PG. Your team is in serious trouble. Good luck with D'Angelo Russell. It might be a blessing in disguise for your team cause Ben Simmons aka the future top 2 pick in the 2016 NBA Draft is going to be a good NBA player.

Here's Curry's summer league HL.


http://watch.nba.com/nba/video/channels/originals/2015/07/10/20150709-curry-sl.nba

[SaltyMeatballs]

I'm glad he's playing like shit but it's too early to judge, especially off of some summer league games.

[West-Side]

Stephen Curry averaged 17.4 points, 4.6 rebounds and 4.2 assists in the 2009 NBA Summer League. He was way better than D'Angelo Russell.

He was almost 3 years older when he entered the league though. He also had some very poor games himself. You can't expect a 19 year old kid to just dominate right away. Even Wiggins struggled for a while.

LeBron didn't have the greatest rookie season; McGrady and Garnett didn't start dominating in the NBA right away; and neither did Kobe.

I think people are being unfair to him because he's wearing a Laker uniform.
I'm confident he'll be a damn fine player in this league; maybe not right away but he has the skills to be good.

[Lebron23]

He was almost 3 years older when he entered the league though. He also had some very poor games himself. You can't expect a 19 year old kid to just dominate right away. Even Wiggins struggled for a while.

LeBron didn't have the greatest rookie season; McGrady and Garnett didn't start dominating in the NBA right away; and neither did Kobe.

I think people are being unfair to him because he's wearing a Laker uniform.
I'm confident he'll be a damn fine player in this league; maybe not right away but he has the skills to be good.


Lebron averaged 21/6/5 in this Rookie Season. Although he only shot 42% from the field.

Jordan Clarkson should start.

[West-Side]

Lebron averaged 21/6/5 in this Rookie Season. Although he only shot 42% from the field.

Jordan Clarkson should start.

Exactly; that was not great by LeBron's standards.
He struggled a lot with his passing, turnovers and shooting.
The game slowed down for him and he became great; just like I think the game will slow down for D'Angelo as well.

I can see him forcing the passes way too much but his vision and understanding of the game is there. SL is about adjusting to the pace of NBA level talent. That's all it is. I would say even after next season it might be premature to label him a bust.

He's very young; people should remember that.
Many young players took a while to mature in the NBA. Some of which are HOFers now.

[chocolatethunder]

The irony from the village idiot himself.
The way D'Angelo moves reminds me a lot of Curry. He isn't athletic or has an insane vertical. Watch the video and tell me you don't see Steph Curry? :rolleyes:

I'm not talking about the performance, I'm strictly talking about their physical identities. If you go back and watch Steph play in the SL; he made the exact same mistakes when he was young.

Now go back to eating LeBron's asshole.
Curry's vert is 39". That's pretty nasty and hardly average.

[hawksdogsbraves]

The passes or shots being a bit off is fine, it is summer league after all, but his first step is what has to be worrisome. He just doesn't look like he can get by people easily, and these guys aren't a bunch of Tony Allen's out there.

[Clyde]

The irony from the village idiot himself.
The way D'Angelo moves reminds me a lot of Curry. He isn't athletic or has an insane vertical. Watch the video and tell me you don't see Steph Curry? :rolleyes:

I'm not talking about the performance, I'm strictly talking about their physical identities. If you go back and watch Steph play in the SL; he made the exact same mistakes when he was young.

Now go back to eating LeBron's asshole.

i dont see it

[Braincells]

Anthony Randolph dropped 42 in a summer league game and looked like the second coming of Lebron James.

If we're projecting careers based on rudimentary summer league games, people are going to be very disappointed.

I think Russell's bad play has more to do with the Lakers trying to run the princeton offense than anything else. I'm giving the Lakers coaching some question marks very early on because of their failure to simplify the game for the new players. They need to stick to simple sets and run PnR. I think he'll play much better when they ditch the stupid offensive schemes.

[ClipperRevival]

The passes or shots being a bit off is fine, it is summer league after all, but his first step is what has to be worrisome. He just doesn't look like he can get by people easily, and these guys aren't a bunch of Tony Allen's out there.

That's what worries me the most. It's obvious the guy has bball skills and can shoot but if he has that slow first step, it will limit his ceiling. Even supposedly slower guys like Manu or Harden or Curry all have some suddenness in their feet at times. The heavy feet is by far the most worrying part. Hope I am just overacting.

[WorldWarriors]

He was almost 3 years older when he entered the league though. He also had some very poor games himself. You can't expect a 19 year old kid to just dominate right away. Even Wiggins struggled for a while.

LeBron didn't have the greatest rookie season; McGrady and Garnett didn't start dominating in the NBA right away; and neither did Kobe.

[/b]I think people are being unfair to him because he's wearing a Laker uniform. [/b]
I'm confident he'll be a damn fine player in this league; maybe not right away but he has the skills to be good.

I agree that its too early to tell. However, with all the hype about him on this board right after the draft about him being the second coming of Jesus made him ripe for crucifixion.

Sure being in a Lakers uniform works against him only because fans had these huge expectations and didn't mind making endless threads about his "alpha" ness.

Honestly, what I really see beyond the turnovers is a guy trying to figure it out on the court. I think he's actually overwhelmed but really trying hard to live up to the expectations put on him by fans and being taken #2.

He'll be okay.

[West-Side]

That's what worries me the most. It's obvious the guy has bball skills and can shoot but if he has that slow first step, it will limit his ceiling. Even supposedly slower guys like Manu or Harden or Curry all have some suddenness in their feet at times. The heavy feet is by far the most worrying part. Hope I am just overacting.

You guys don't think a first step can be improved with the right coaching staff? Lateral quickness can be improved with technique and conditioning.

[West-Side]

I agree that its too early to tell. However, with all the hype about him on this board right after the draft about him being the second coming of Jesus made him ripe for crucifixion.

Sure being in a Lakers uniform works against him only because fans had these huge expectations and didn't mind making endless threads about his "alpha" ness.

Honestly, what I really see beyond the turnovers is a guy trying to figure it out on the court. I think he's actually overwhelmed but really trying hard to live up to the expectations put on him by fans and being taken #2.

He'll be okay.

Great post. :cheers:
I completely agree. I mean I troll about him on here but I'm not serious. I think him wearing a Laker uniform gives him the spotlight a young player does not need. His confidence also makes other fans look at him with a microscope.

As soon as he became a Laker, two things became apparent:

1) He will be overrated every time he does something great on the court.
2) He will be underrated every time he plays poorly on the court.

I'll just sit back and give the kid a couple of years before I even start judging if he's a bust or a stud.

[ClipperRevival]

You guys don't think a first step can be improved with the right coaching staff? Lateral quickness can be improved with technique and conditioning.

You can improve on it somewhat but say your first step is a 5 out of 10 (10 being best), you won't be an 8 no matter how hard you work. You might make it to 6. And right now, his first step looks pretty unimpressive so him working hard at it will improve it somewhat but it won't make it much better.

Fortunately, he is 19, which means he hasn't fully developed his muscles yet. But at the same time, natural athleticism should already shine through at his age. But he wasn't drafted for his athleticism. I hope I am overacting. It was only 3 games. Maybe for some reason, he looked slower than his usual self.

[Velocirap31]

I wouldn't put much thought into summer league performances. Even if this guy is struggling, which he is, he seems like the kind of guy with a work ethic required to be great. He'll put the time in, learn, calm down, and get much better. Don't worry yet Laker fans.

[Fudge]

Still gonna be a superstar.

Haters mad as fuuuuck right now.

[ClipperRevival]

Probably one of the most underrated traits in basketball is quickness. Guys like Kyrie, CP3, Manu (prime), Harden and Curry aren't explosive athletes but they do possess very good quickness and change of direction skills. That's what allows them to separate from defenders.

[Millslapped]

the funny thing is magic32 was swearing up and down that like 5 of his turnovers were his teammate's fault :roll:
literally every single one of those passes is terrible.

[ClipperRevival]

The one thing we do know about Russell from the 3 summer league games is that his vision and passing abilities are off the charts. He sees the floor differently from most people and can think a step or two ahead. Yes, he had a lot of turnovers but some of them were cases of him making the right pass but not expecting the defender to be there because the speed of the game is greater than college. Once he adjusts, his passing should be fine. But he is a risk taker as a passer, not conservative like CP3. So he'll turn it over regularly but he'll also give you the jaw dropping passes.

His shooting looks fine and his release is very quick. His ball handling skills are there. The only thing that sticks out to me is his slow, first step. If he had just shown a little more natural explosion, I would be stoked as hell right now. But that's the one thing that has me a little worried.

[SpecialQue]

Even though he's our draft pack and I really, really want him to do well, I have to admit that I laughed at those two passes that he made to open space.

[Millslapped]

The one thing we do know about Russell from the 3 summer league games is that his vision and passing abilities are off the charts. He sees the floor differently from most people and can think a step or two ahead. Yes, he had a lot of turnovers but some of them were cases of him making the right pass but not expecting the defender to be there because the speed of the game is greater than college. Once he adjusts, his passing should be fine. But he is a risk taker as a passer, not conservative like CP3. So he'll turn it over regularly but he'll also give you the jaw dropping passes.

His shooting looks fine and his release is very quick. His ball handling skills are there. The only thing that sticks out to me is his slow, first step. If he had just shown a little more natural explosion, I would be stoked as hell right now. But that's the one thing that has me a little worried.
this really isn't true and i'm not sure how you got that

[chips93]

Moves like Curry?? Just admit that the Lakers drafted a guy who's going to be out of this league in less than 5 years. I have been reading some comments about him, and watching this video he sucks worse than I thought.

:facepalm

[ClipperRevival]

this really isn't true and i'm not sure how you got that

Because he saw openings that were there for a split second that 90% of player would never even see, let alone attempt. So he's seeing the openings and anticipating correctly but he's just not used to the speed of the game. His vision, anticipation and passing is off the charts for a 19 year old and it's by far his greatest strength.

[riseagainst]

:lol

what a bust.

[Millslapped]

Because he saw openings that were there for a split second that 90% of player would never even see, let alone attempt. So he's seeing the openings and anticipating correctly but he's just not used to the speed of the game. His vision, anticipation and passing is off the charts for a 19 year old and it's by far his greatest strength.
What are you talking about? Most players just aren't dumb enough to pass it right to the defender. It's not good vision, it's bad passing. Don't try to twist it.

[SpecialQue]

The one thing we do know about Russell from the 3 summer league games is that his vision and passing abilities are off the charts.

You mean like those times when he literally threw the ball to empty space?

[ClipperRevival]

What are you talking about? Most players just aren't dumb enough to pass it right to the defender. It's not good vision, it's bad passing. Don't try to twist it.

You could see that he has rare vision. He spots openings that most people don't even see, let alone try to attempt a pass. When the defense isn't set, he's always probing and looking for openings. Yes, he made a lot of bad passes but he also made some very nice passes that displayed his vision. Based on what I saw, his vision, anticipation and passing ability is by far his greatest asset as a pro. I also think he's going to be a pretty deadly shooter. His stroke looks right and the ball comes out quick and effortlessly.

[Millslapped]

You could see that he has rare vision. He spots openings that most people don't even see, let alone try to attempt a pass. When the defense isn't set, he's always probing and looking for openings. Yes, he made a lot of bad passes but he also made some very nice passes that displayed his vision. Based on what I saw, his vision, anticipation and passing ability is by far his greatest asset as a pro. I also think he's going to be a pretty deadly shooter. His stroke looks right and the ball comes out quick and effortlessly.
Show me the good passes then

[ClipperRevival]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZyGpskCfSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhfGH2KBBpY

[Millslapped]

Single out some plays. Don't just link a video. Where in those did you see CP3 level passing?

[ClipperRevival]

Single out some plays. Don't just link a video. Where in those did you see CP3 level passing?

Jesus Christ man. If you can't take the time to watch a couple of videos (less than 4 minutes total), I don't know what to say. And like I said, it's not just the passes he completed that stood out, it's some of the passes he attempted and missed that also impressed me. Making passes in situations where the D isn't expecting the pass. The anticipation was there, just not the execution. And like I said, that will come with adjusting to the speed of the game.

[WorldWarriors]

Single out some plays. Don't just link a video. Where in those did you see CP3 level passing?


2nd link. First and third plays. One other good pass near the end of the video.

One was a sweet cross court pass on the money.

He got skills in that area.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Reminds me of MJ

[Millslapped]

Jesus Christ man. If you can't take the time to watch a couple of videos (less than 4 minutes total), I don't know what to say. And like I said, it's not just the passes he completed that stood out, it's some of the passes he attempted and missed that also impressed me. Making passes in situations where the D isn't expecting the pass. The anticipation was there, just not the execution. And like I said, that will come with adjusting to the speed of the game.
You're the lazy one. You are trying to make an argument. Present it.

[tsforthrees]

best player comparison is charles barkley playing pick up in space jam

[West-Side]

You're the lazy one. You are trying to make an argument. Present it.

Are you serious?
In 3 summer league games he has showed signs of brilliant passing ability. He finds the open man, he has made beautiful cross court passes on the money and has made some really nice bounce passes to the cutters.

Watch the videos.
Can someone post me D'Angelo's SL stats after 3 games?
I don't know where I can find this information.

[IGOTGAME]

Are you serious?
In 3 summer league games he has showed signs of brilliant passing ability. He finds the open man, he has made beautiful cross court passes on the money and has made some really nice bounce passes to the cutters.

Watch the videos.
Can someone post me D'Angelo's SL stats after 3 games?
I don't know where I can find this information.

The hype is real ... So this is what it's like playing for La..everything you do get hyped out of control

[Jailblazers7]

Looks like he just doesn't realize how passing lanes close up against better talent. A couple of those passes are highlight reel conversions in college but not against pros.

[FKAri]

Are you serious?
In 3 summer league games he has showed signs of brilliant passing ability. He finds the open man, he has made beautiful cross court passes on the money and has made some really nice bounce passes to the cutters.

Watch the videos.
Can someone post me D'Angelo's SL stats after 3 games?
I don't know where I can find this information.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_d_angelo_russell/index.html

[West-Side]

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_d_angelo_russell/index.html

Thanks man.
One thing I noticed is that his turnovers went down and his assists went up after each game.

Pretty disappointing numbers but he's a work in progress; I hope he'll learn and improve.

[Jailblazers7]

Thanks man.
One thing I noticed is that his turnovers went down and his assists went up after each game.

Pretty disappointing numbers but he's a work in progress; I hope he'll learn and improve.

Actually it's the opposite. TO's up and assists down with each game. :lol

[West-Side]

Actually it's the opposite. TO's up and assists down with each game. :lol

:roll: Shiiit. :hammerhead:

[Relinquish]

The sad part is that Magic32 was arguing that 3 of his TO's were ones where his teammates fked up and didn't catch the ball. :lol

[FKAri]

Some of his turnovers were really bad and he did seem to be confused and overthinking at times. Having said that some of the passes were the right play but for some reason the bigs weren't expecting it (like how are you not expecting a pass when you roll to the basket after a pick? da fuq?)

Dis nigguh Randle doe....I hope he's just rusty coming off the injury.

[SpecialQue]

Some of his turnovers were really bad and he did seem to be confused and overthinking at times. Having said that some of the passes were the right play but for some reason the bigs weren't expecting it (like how are you not expecting a pass when you roll to the basket after a pick? da fuq?)

Dis nigguh Randle doe....I hope he's just rusty coming off the injury.

I liked what I saw from Randle at the end of the game, when it looked like he was trying to get the win. That flash of activity showed a lot more promise than anything I've seen from Russell so far.

[smoovegittar]

Can we all just come to the conclusion that there's a lot of work ahead? Jesus, ISH... :rolleyes:

[WorldWarriors]

Can we all just come to the conclusion that there's a lot of work ahead? Jesus, ISH... :rolleyes:

Too late for that, lol.

Would have been different if the consensus started from that point. But it started from Superstar level and worked its way all the backward to Project/potential level. :roll:

[outbreak]

He has good vision but it's the speed that caught him out in the nba and even the d league players are a lot quicker at closing gaps, the only reason people are talking bust is because lakers fans were talking goat when all the scouting reports listed his issues. He should improve but it won't be a day one impact type guy

[Hey Yo]

Looks like he just doesn't realize how passing lanes close up against better talent. A couple of those passes are highlight reel conversions in college but not against pros.
But the talent isn't that much better, compared to what he'll see against a starting NBA line-up.

[Nikola_]

lol @ the GOAT hype based off his statements