Which of these Finals MVP selections would you change

[SouBeachTalents]

1973: Reed http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1973-nba-finals-knicks-vs-lakers.html
1976: White http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1976-nba-finals-suns-vs-celtics.html
1978: Unseld http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1978-nba-finals-bullets-vs-supersonics.html
1979: DJ http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1979-nba-finals-supersonics-vs-bullets.html
1980: Magic http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1980-nba-finals-76ers-vs-lakers.html
1981: Maxwell http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1981-nba-finals-rockets-vs-celtics.html
1988: Worthy http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1988-nba-finals-pistons-vs-lakers.html
2005: Duncan http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2005-nba-finals-pistons-vs-spurs.html
2008: Pierce http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2008-nba-finals-lakers-vs-celtics.html
2015: Iggy http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html

[KendrickPerkins]

Ray Allen had a big argument in 2008, but I wouldn't change it.

So none.

[TheMarkMadsen]

05, 15

[Young X]

'88 Worthy

[Harison]

1981: Maxwell, Bird was suppose to win.

1988: Worthy, Magic's award.

Not mentioned in the list, but 2007 FMVP Parker, Duncan had bigger impact.

2008: Pierce, because Garnett was the most valuable and impactful player.

2015: Iggy, it was Curry's award. Funny how Garnett's or Duncan's defense and overall impact didnt matter, but Iggy's worse impact was considered FMVP worthy.

[MP.Trey]

05, Same.

08, Ray Allen.

15, Curry.

Can't speak for the others because I haven't seen them in full.

[Inferno]

I honestly thought 2015 was Steph's award, but it's whatever. Iggy did great against LeBron

[ISHGoat]

How is nobody saying the obvious one? Smh ish

[KendrickPerkins]

Iggy sure as hell deserved the award.

Pau Gasol in 2010 sticks out the most to me.

[FKAri]

I would've given 2015 to Lebron and Steph before Iggy.

[Papaya Petee]

1988 Worthy by far.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Dunacan not getting any respect for 2007? He deserved it I though.

I'd change 1980 to Kareem, 81 to bird, 88 to magic and 15 to LeBron.

[LAZERUSS]

1988 Worthy by far.

This.

[rmt]

05, 15

2005 Finals
Duncan 20.6 pts / 14.1 rebs / 2.1 asst / 2.1 blks + anchoring the defense
Manu 18.7 pts / 5.9 rebs / 4 asst / 1.3 stl

[pastis]

05 and 10 for sure

[gyu]

Have no issues with Iggy winning it, but it boggles my mind how not one voter thought Curry was worthy of FMVP.

[ZMonkey11]

Probably '88. Give it to the referees.

[SHAQisGOAT]

1973: Frazier (either in '70 or in '73 should've gone to Walt, got no beef with Reed having 1 but 2 is reaching, Clyde deserves to have 1 of those)

1978: Hayes

1980: Kareem

1981: Bird

1988: Magic

2015: Curry


That's more like it... Few of those selections even reach ridiculous grounds, tbh.

[Bandito]

In 12 I wouldve given to the refs and 13 to Ray Allen.

[Real14]

In 12 I wouldve given to the refs and 13 to Ray Allen.
I agree plus I like to add 06 should be given to the refs as well:applause:

[BuffaloBill]

Duncan not getting any respect for 2007? He deserved it I though.



Parker got the fmvp for destroying boobie gibson basically. Duncan was the better player throughout the playoffs obviously.

[GoSpursGo1984]

Iggy sure as hell deserved the award.

Pau Gasol in 2010 sticks out the most to me.

Anyone not a Kobe hater can see that Kobe was the best player in the series you do not give an MVP to a player who disappears in big games.

[Real14]

99 should be Ewing's knees too.

[brownmamba00]

1980 Magic

That was Kareem's team.

[ArbitraryWater]

2010 probably, 2015 no doubt. Just a 7-4 voting difference anyway.

OP you love these kinda threads eh? :lol

[riseagainst]

inb4 201.

:lol

[West-Side]

1981: Maxwell, Bird was suppose to win.

1988: Worthy, Magic's award.

Not mentioned in the list, but 2007 FMVP Parker, Duncan had bigger impact.

2008: Pierce, because Garnett was the most valuable and impactful player.

2015: Iggy, it was Curry's award. Funny how Garnett's or Duncan's defense and overall impact didnt matter, but Iggy's worse impact was considered FMVP worthy.

Iggy was guarding the best player in the league and made countless of big shots. You guys are underrating his impact.

I'd still give it to Curry though.

[Svendiggity]

Hayes over Unseld. look at their stats

[3ball]

I'd give the 2015 Finals MVP to Steph Curry, hands down.

Iggy's impact on Lebron is overstated because Lebron shot JUST AS POORLY against Chicago (39.9%) and Atlanta (43.8%).

And obviously, Iggy didn't play for the Bulls or Hawks.. Instead, the common thread in each playoffs series was 1) Lebron's higher shot volume, 2) Lebron's high isolation frequency coupled with his league-low FG% on these isolations.

It isn't debateable that Lebron's poor isolation FG% tanked his overall FG% in these playoffs - it's statistical fact.. Teams let him isolate because they knew he was a horrible isolation player.. Period..

The tape don't lie.. This is part of historical record - of course, 10 years from now, posters will invariably misconstrue and misstate these facts.. They're already doing it and the series is barely a month old.
.

[G0ATbe]

Duncan in 05. Ginobili was clearly the most impactful player on the team.

[nba_55]

2015- Lebron deserved it.

[rmt]

Duncan in 05. Ginobili was clearly the most impactful player on the team.

2005 Finals
Duncan 20.6 pts / 14.1 rebs / 2.1 asst / 2.1 blks + anchoring the defense
Manu 18.7 pts / 5.9 rebs / 4 asst / 1.3 stl

How could Manu be "clearly the most impactful player on the team" when Duncan outscored him in addition to anchoring the defense? Your agenda is what's CLEAR.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

'07 and '14. Defensive anchor.

:no:

[ShawkFactory]

Honestly can't think of one since I've been watching that wasn't justified. Perhaps steph should have won this year but he was awful the first couple games and iggy was so tough defensively and so clutch. It seems like he was hitting daggers all series

[Genaro]

I saw the 05 finals but I was too young to remember everything and judge.

08 I think it should be Garnett
15 I had no problem with Iggy winning it at the time but thinking back I think that Curry was the most deserving.

[Wade's Rings]

'80, '81, and '88

[TheMarkMadsen]

in 81 Bird had 3 straight games with 8, 8 and 12 points lmao no way in hell did he deserve FMVP

[SHAQisGOAT]

Hayes over Unseld. look at their stats

I know Hayes was an asshole many times (as reported) but still, dude was hated on too damn much...

I mean, I know he had an average game7 in those '78 Finals but Unseld wasn't much better and if that was the case, they should've given it to Bobby D.

Elvin scored WAY better than Wes, rebounded at the same rate, played better defense... c'mon now...

Dudes like Kareem or Bird were very aloof (mostly earlier in their careers) with a no-****s-given attitude towards the media that generated some "hate"... But, imho, Hayes takes all of that to greater levels when you look at the whole picture.

[Wade's Rings]

in 81 Bird had 3 straight games with 8, 8 and 12 points lmao no way in hell did he deserve FMVP

I Didn't get to watch that series live but for what I have heard and read he dominated with his rebounding and passing and was extremely clutch in a couple of those Games.

[sd3035]

Lebald James for the Mavs

[midatlantic09]

Have no issues with Iggy winning it, but it boggles my mind how not one voter thought Curry was worthy of FMVP.

It's called following the leader. The leaders of the pack make it known that they're going with Iggy so all the others follow along just to fit in AND because people have a way of subconsciously forming biases when someone superior to them thinks a certain way (ie "oh, well Bob thinks Iggy is the best in this series and he's a great basketball mind, so I should probably go with Iggy as well")...

Pretty sure if the leaders of the pack went with Lebron, so would everyone else; most people don't operate individually.

[Showtime2001]

I Didn't get to watch that series live but for what I have heard and read he dominated with his rebounding and passing and was extremely clutch in a couple of those Games.
So was Kobe in 2000 and yet he was carried and Shaq was the one who did all the work.

:facepalm

[ShawkFactory]

So was Kobe in 2000 and yet he was carried and Shaq was the one who did all the work.

:facepalm
While that's a stupid argument for Kobe haters to make, shaq put up 38 and 17. Cedric maxwell...did not...

Plus bird averaged 15 rebounds and 7 assists

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

18/10/3 on 57 FG%
15/15/7 on 42 FG%

Not sure I see the problem with it, especially when you consider that Bird played 5 more minutes a game.....

[Magic 32]

Knew 2010 would come up. :facepalm

How many times does this myth have to be destroyed?

G1 Kobe>Pau
G2 Kobe<Pau
G3 Kobe>Pau
G4 Kobe>Pau
G5 Kobe>Pau
G6 Kobe>Pau
G7 Kobe<Pau

[SHAQisGOAT]

So was Kobe in 2000 and yet he was carried and Shaq was the one who did all the work.

:facepalm

:wtf: :facepalm

Bird wasn't playing with a dude putting up 38/17/3 on 61% FG... Bird wasn't playing with motha****in peak Shaq...

Bird (in '81) clearly played better than Kobe (in '00) while taking the most attetion with him, while being the leader from the get-go... Oh, and Kobe was 2nd banana to a player infinitely better than Cedric Maxwell.
But hey, let's just compare both "situations" :rolleyes: :facepalm

Said it many times before... Bird deserved that FMVP...

Larry almost rebounded as much as prime Moses, was easily the best playmaker for the series, 3rd best scorer, played great D, clutch af, hustled more than anybody in an extremely physical series...
Most impactful, better overall player in those Finals.

Cornbread was better and more consistent with his scoring/shooting yes, but Bird was much better in terms of playmaking, definitely better on the boards, more impactful on defense, wasn't even much worse in terms of scoring at all.

Not to mention that Bird had just outplayed the MVP in the '81 ECF (the real Finals) so ofc he easily had the most attention on him and was setting up Max for countless bunnies, great passing.
Cedric never was remotely close to Bird's impact and even got "better" when Larry came around, those are just the facts...

In that 1st 8-points game, Bird also had 13 rebounds, 10 assists, 5 steals and 2 blocks... Celtics won in a blowout and nobody even had a great scoring game.
But I guess Larry should've just stayed in to statpad those scoring numbers, huh? :confusedshrug: Sorta like LeBron does...

Celtics also won in a blowout in game5 with Bird putting up 12/12/8. Why the hell did he jst play 38 minutes and didn't stay in at the end :rolleyes:

Also, adding to that, who was the one closing out the series? That's right, Larry Bird...
27/13/5 on 11-20 FG game6, clutch af, scoring 9 of the team's 11 in the decisive late run.

I give Cornbread his credit but he was a media-friendly *****, while Bird was very aloof and couldn't give less ****s about them, creating that "hate"...

Plus, single-games individual assists/rebounds/steals/blocks weren't posted in most boxscores back then.

If those series had taken place at least 5 years later on... Bird would've won that FMVP.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

:

I give Cornbread his credit but he was a media-friendly *****, while Bird was very aloof and couldn't give less ****s about them, creating that "hate"...

Plus, single-games individual assists/rebounds/steals/blocks weren't posted in most boxscores back then.

If those series had taken place at least 5 years later on... Bird would've won that FMVP.[/B]

Please. Bird was a media darling. Ever since Indiana State.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Please. Bird was a media darling. Ever since Indiana State.

:rolleyes:

That only shows you know nothing about the topic at hand... Why even make ignorant comments like that though?

:facepalm

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

:rolleyes:

That only shows you know nothing about the topic at hand... Why even make ignorant comments like that though?

:facepalm

Funny, I was going to tell you the exact thing.

[Boston C's]

Curry in 2015 is obvious How Iggy got it boggles me a bit, I definitely thought he was second for the warriors but Curry should have easily gotten it

People saying manu in 05 I wouldn't even consider it

I would have liked Ray to win in 08 but he didnt exactly get robbed, although the people talking about k.g I completely disagree with, he was to me clearly the 3rd mvp of the finals

[rmt]

So was Kobe in 2000 and yet he was carried and Shaq was the one who did all the work.

:facepalm

2000 Finals
Shaq 38 pts / 16.7 rebs / 2.3 asst / 2.7 blks 61.1%FG
Kobe 15.6 pts / 4.6 rebs / 4.2 asst 36.7%

Yes, Shaq did the work and carried him.

[knicksman]

Op=beta:lol

[houston]

just iggy

[SamuraiSWISH]

Steph was a bum, getting locked up the first half the series by a journeyman, back up, un-athletic / gifted, slow white Australian.

Curry should've went BONKERS and didn't. How anyone should say he deserved MVP in retrospect is ridiculously stupid.

The Finals MVP was LeBron. Even though the Cavs didn't win, and he shot poorly ... as well as played mediocre to bad in the deciding games of the series. Golden State won completely as a team.

[ArbitraryWater]

18/10/3 on 57 FG%
15/15/7 on 42 FG%

Not sure I see the problem with it, especially when you consider that Bird played 5 more minutes a game.....

there isn't one.. just Bird stans.

Anyway, so 2010: Gasol & 2015: LeBron

Not sure why OP doesn't list '70.... must not know that was straight robbery.

[knicksman]

Steph was a bum, getting locked up the first half the series by a journeyman, back up, un-athletic / gifted, slow white Australian.

Curry should've went BONKERS and didn't. How anyone should say he deserved MVP in retrospect is ridiculously stupid.

The Finals MVP was LeBron. Even though the Cavs didn't win, and he shot poorly ... as well as played mediocre to bad in the deciding games of the series. Golden State won completely as a team.

Because ofense>defense. And he was the reason they won at the most important games with those daggers after daggers he made

[branslowski]

Anyway, so 2010: Gasol & 2015: LeBron



:kobe:

[Wade's Rings]

Anyway, so 2010: Gasol & 2015: LeBron

You can't win Finals MVP in a loss :facepalm

[SamuraiSWISH]

Because ofense>defense. And he was the reason they won at the most important games with those daggers after daggers he made
Curry for the series was like the 3rd best player.

:oldlol:

[Trollsmasher]

'15 LeBron James

[Wade's Rings]

'15 LeBron James

:facepalm Can't be Finals MVP in a loss

[mehyaM24]

:facepalm Can't be Finals MVP in a loss

why not? jerry west was. :confusedshrug:

lebron given the circumstances (his 2nd and 3rd options were DNP) played an historical, ATG series.

nearly a 40 point triple-double on ~40% shooting is absurd, and a reflection of greatness. :bowdown:

[PickernRoller]

05 is the only correct answer.

[knicksman]

Curry for the series was like the 3rd best player.

:oldlol:


Lol yeah the guy whos assigned to do the most difficult thing and the reason why everyone is open is the 3rd best. But thats expected from a flip flopper who now thinks kobe is better coz his boy lost.

[Wade's Rings]

why not? jerry west was. :confusedshrug:

lebron given the circumstances (his 2nd and 3rd options were DNP) played an historical, ATG series.

nearly a 40 point triple-double on ~40% shooting is absurd, and a reflection of greatness. :bowdown:

Jerry West won Finals MVP in a loss before it was established that the winner will win Finals MVP. Nobody else after that won Finals MVP in a loss.

Like I said you can't win Finals MVP in a loss no matter how good you were.

[Prime_Shaq]

1981 Bird
1988 Magic
2004 Big Ben
2008 KG
2015 Curry

[mehyaM24]

Jerry West won Finals MVP in a loss before it was established that the winner will win Finals MVP. Nobody else after that won Finals MVP in a loss.

Like I said you can't win Finals MVP in a loss no matter how good you were.

myth

those arbitrary rules have nothing to do with fmvp. van gundy and mike breen had lebron IIRC - in total, more votes than curry who was actually the best player on golden state. iguodala was a pc way of saying lebron took curry's lunch, so we'll give it to the next best player. :oldlol:

still, "iggy" was torched to the tune of ~36/13/9

[TheMarkMadsen]

still, "iggy" was torched to the tune of


lebron shot 33% against Iggy..


James is 18-of-54 against Iguodala in this series,

:roll: :roll:

lebrick (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106613/iggy-makes-lebrons-shooting-iffy)


so for the second year in a row Lebron's primary defender won FMVP

embarrassing really

[mehyaM24]

and yet was still better than igoudala throughout the series.

your "point" doesn't even make sense. :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

and yet was still better than igoudala throughout the series.

your "point" doesn't even make sense. :oldlol:

your point..

oh wait you don't even have a point since you've been trying to convince people Lebron torched Iggy when I just disproved that..

:roll: :roll:

[mehyaM24]

your point..

oh wait you don't even have a point since you've been trying to convince people Lebron torched Iggy when I just disproved that..

:roll: :roll:

actually my point is that lebron was hands down, the best player in the series.

try to keep up

[knicksman]

and yet was still better than igoudala throughout the series.

your "point" doesn't even make sense. :oldlol:

So now youre comparing bran to iguodala? :oldlol:

Bran stans stupidity knows no bounds

[mehyaM24]

So now youre comparing bran to iguodala? :oldlol:

Bran stans stupidity knows no bounds
please read carefully.

this thread is about the 2015 fmvp - the award lebron SHOULD have won and was awarded more votes than curry. not that difficult to understand or grasp, right?

[tpols]

Lebron fans literally celebrate a series where not only did Lebron and his team lose, his primary defender won the gdamn FMVP award specifically for his lockdown defense on him.




:facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

Lebron fans literally celebrate a series where not only did Lebron and his team lose, his primary defender won the gdamn FMVP award specifically for his lockdown defense on him.




:facepalm

Kobe fans really use a guy winning FMVP purely due to the tremendous value of having an impact on LEBRON, to downplay him(Bron)? dafuq?

That alone shows the importance of James..

anyway, I think atleast we can agree it was one of the GOAT finals series' :cheers:

[PickernRoller]

Kobe fans really use a guy winning FMVP purely due to the tremendous value of having an impact on LEBRON, to downplay him(Bron)? dafuq?

That alone shows the importance of James..

anyway, I think atleast we can agree it was one of the GOAT finals series' :cheers:

We all enjoyed watching Andre Iguodala locking up Bron. Best Finals since 2011.

[tpols]

Kobe fans really use a guy winning FMVP purely due to the tremendous value of having an impact on LEBRON, to downplay him(Bron)? dafuq?

That alone shows the importance of James..

anyway, I think atleast we can agree it was one of the GOAT finals series' :cheers:

What does the bold even mean? Are you trying to reference shaq?

Are you seriously comparing losing a FMVP to a top 3 MDE in his peak to losing FMVP to a veteran role player who had been coming off the bench in limited minutes all year?


:lol :facepalm


You guys have hit a new low.

[Wade's Rings]

myth

those arbitrary rules have nothing to do with fmvp. van gundy and mike breen had lebron IIRC - in total, more votes than curry who was actually the best player on golden state. iguodala was a pc way of saying lebron took curry's lunch, so we'll give it to the next best player. :oldlol:

still, "iggy" was torched to the tune of ~36/13/9

Those rules aren't Arbitrary. Outside of 1969, the very first year they handed out the award, a loser has never won the award.

Lebron shot 33% when being guarded by Iggy this series. How is that torched?

[TheMarkMadsen]

** Kobe sets record for most missed shots in nba finals**

bran fans be like "wow chucker stole the FMVP"


** Lebron demolishes Kobe's record for most missed shots in an NBA finals (in less games too)**

bran fans be like "i think we can agree this was the GOAT finals**

lmao at these dumb fuccs