View Full Version : the most skilled player in the league
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 06:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnXnciZAAXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls494odE0bI
:applause: :rockon: :bowdown:
FireDavidKahn
07-19-2015, 06:18 PM
Where's the title for the "most skilled player in the league"?:confusedshrug:
Braincells
07-19-2015, 06:21 PM
ricky rubio
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 06:24 PM
ricky rubio
what about him
BlakFrankWhite
07-19-2015, 06:24 PM
Kevin Durant
TripleA
07-19-2015, 06:26 PM
Isaiah thomas(celtics). beast
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 06:27 PM
all wrong answers, closest would be kobe
AirFederer
07-19-2015, 06:28 PM
Wade/Kobe
all wrong answers, closest would be kobe
No it's pretty much kobe. Most skilled the game has ever seen bro.
Marchesk
07-19-2015, 06:31 PM
D'angelo Russell
L8krH8tr
07-19-2015, 06:32 PM
Durant
ISHGoat
07-19-2015, 06:33 PM
Steph
Steph
Durant
Kobe has more post up moves than both. It's about skills, not your favourite players.
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 06:44 PM
paul
post moves check
shooting check
passing check
defense check
handles check
Young X
07-19-2015, 06:45 PM
People don't realize how great of a shooter he was last season. He had the best midrange jumper (50%), shot 90% from the line and 40% from 3. Then he shot 50/42/94 in the playoffs.
He was one of the best shooters in the league along with being the best ballhandler, passer and a very good defender.
He's one of the most polished players I've ever seen - only 6 ft tall but been an elite player for 8 seasons now.
People don't realize how great of a shooter he was last season. He had the best midrange jumper (50%), shot 90% from the line and 40% from 3. Then he shot 50/42/94 in the playoffs.
He was one of the best shooters in the league along with being the best ballhandler, passer and a very good defender.
He's one of the most polished players I've ever seen - only 6 ft tall but been an elite player for 8 seasons now.
SKILLS. No numbers please.
FireDavidKahn
07-19-2015, 06:51 PM
paul
post moves check
shooting check
passing check
defense check
handles check
Title No
PickernRoller
07-19-2015, 06:53 PM
Still Kobe Bryant until he retires.
L8krH8tr
07-19-2015, 06:57 PM
Still Kobe Bryant until he retires.
ya what a great passer Kobe is.... those skills
HOoopCityJones
07-19-2015, 06:57 PM
Kobe
BlakFrankWhite
07-19-2015, 07:00 PM
Title No
Monumental chokes check
outbreak
07-19-2015, 07:01 PM
Andrew Nicholson - he has a degree in chemistry and physics, he's pretty skilled and OP didn't specify skilled in what.
kennethgriffin
07-19-2015, 07:01 PM
skills dont fade
bodies do
kobes skills today are just as good as ever. which is why on one leg in his 19th season he lead the league in scoring last year for a month
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 07:01 PM
Title No
titles require more than skills, yes luck is involved
outbreak
07-19-2015, 07:03 PM
skills dont fade
bodies do
kobes skills today are just as good as ever. which is why on one leg in his 19th season he lead the league in scoring last year for a month
On what shooting %?
JohnMax
07-19-2015, 07:04 PM
whats the name of the beat in the pt 2 video
kennethgriffin
07-19-2015, 07:08 PM
On what shooting %?
around what lebron averaged in this years playoffs
Fire Colangelo
07-19-2015, 07:14 PM
around what lebron averaged in this years playoffs
which is around what kobe averages in the playoffs his whole career
ShawkFactory
07-19-2015, 07:18 PM
around what lebron averaged in this years playoffs
Not, actually :lol
knicksman
07-19-2015, 07:18 PM
If its quality of skills, ill go with curry. No player could do what he does. Hes making the 3 pt area his midrange area.
kennethgriffin
07-19-2015, 07:26 PM
Not, actually :lol
well lebron averaged 40% in the playoffs
38% in the finals
35% with iggy on him
28% outside of 5 feet
kobe averaged 38% during his run as #1 scorer.
so yeah. actually
:oldlol:
ShawkFactory
07-19-2015, 07:32 PM
well lebron averaged 40% in the playoffs
38% in the finals
35% with iggy on him
28% outside of 5 feet
kobe averaged 38% during his run as #1 scorer.
so yeah. actually
:oldlol:
42% vs 37%. You can make a point without lying.
Well, I guess YOU can't :lol
FireDavidKahn
07-19-2015, 07:49 PM
titles require more than skills, yes luck is involved
The supposedly "most skilled player in the league" should have at least made the finals by age by age 30, let alone win it.
CTbasketball92
07-19-2015, 07:49 PM
This "skilled" player got his ass kicked by GOATbrook last playoffs.
Don't think its happened often but aggression beat skills
Yeahh about that ...
CP3: 22.5 ppg, 51 FG%, 46% from 3, 2.5 steals, 11.8 assists, only 2.3 turn overs
I don't want to list westbrook's stats, but that matchup was pretty much a draw, with Cp3 putting up better advanced numbers.
He didn't get checked by anyone
CP3 remains a top 5-7 player in the league, and curry still isn't better. Westbrook has a great argument.
CP3 easily has an argument for most skilled player, only way you can be a dominant force like that with that short stature, and he's the best pg defender in the game.
CTbasketball92
07-19-2015, 07:51 PM
The supposedly "most skilled player in the league" should have at least made the finals by age by age 30, let alone win it.
Do you really think that the warriors or the spurs would have been LESS successful with Chris Paul?
The spurs might literally have never lost and the warriors built leads on the depleted cavs while curry was on the bench :roll:
K Xerxes
07-19-2015, 07:53 PM
Chris Paul easily one of the most skilled players of all time. Unreal how he can control a game that well at that size. Hope he breaks through soon.
Young X
07-19-2015, 07:59 PM
Yeahh about that ...
CP3: 22.5 ppg, 51 FG%, 46% from 3, 2.5 steals, 11.8 assists, only 2.3 turn overs
I don't want to list westbrook's stats, but that matchup was pretty much a draw, with Cp3 putting up better advanced numbers.
He didn't get checked by anyone
CP3 remains a top 5-7 player in the league, and curry still isn't better. Westbrook has a great argument.
CP3 easily has an argument for most skilled player, only way you can be a dominant force like that with that short stature, and he's the best pg defender in the game.Good post.
He outplayed Westbrook in half of those games. No one remembers how badly he killed OKC in game 1 going 8/9 from three in 3 quarters or how he led his team from a 20 pt deficit in game 4 while defending KD down the stretch.
I'm tired of the disrespect this dude gets. This is a thread about skill and you have these f*ggots in here talking about rings.
KendrickPerkins
07-19-2015, 08:03 PM
Good post.
He outplayed Westbrook in half of those games. No one remembers how badly he killed OKC in game 1 going 8/9 from three in 3 quarters or how he led his team from a 20 pt deficit in game 4 while defending KD down the stretch.
I'm tired of the disrespect this dude gets. This is a thread about skill and you have these f*ggots in here talking about rings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uLskVJlkU
WOoooooooo
midatlantic09
07-19-2015, 08:13 PM
Probably either Curry or Kyrie Irving. Btw, anyone over 6'6 should be completely eliminated from the discussion as it's much easier to be a high caliber NBA player at 6'6+ than it is at 6'2/6'3 or whatever.
Smoke117
07-19-2015, 08:15 PM
Kobe has more post up moves than both. It's about skills, not your favourite players.
When did a turn around fade away become multiple moves?
FireDavidKahn
07-19-2015, 08:17 PM
Do you really think that the warriors or the spurs would have been LESS successful with Chris Paul?
The spurs might literally have never lost and the warriors built leads on the depleted cavs while curry was on the bench :roll:
CP3 has had pretty damn stacked team since he went to the Clips, so...
midatlantic09
07-19-2015, 08:21 PM
Kevin Durant
He's too tall to be in this discussion. This topic should be be reserved for the shorter guys who are still able to dominate at the NBA level. Durant's a phenomenal player, but it's much much easier to dominate at 6'9/6'10 than it is at 6'0-6'3.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
07-19-2015, 08:26 PM
Yeahh about that ...
CP3: 22.5 ppg, 51 FG%, 46% from 3, 2.5 steals, 11.8 assists, only 2.3 turn overs
I don't want to list westbrook's stats, but that matchup was pretty much a draw, with Cp3 putting up better advanced numbers.
He didn't get checked by anyone
CP3 remains a top 5-7 player in the league, and curry still isn't better. Westbrook has a great argument.
CP3 easily has an argument for most skilled player, only way you can be a dominant force like that with that short stature, and he's the best pg defender in the game.
:applause: :applause:
CP and Westbrook are by far the 2 best at PG tho
nikkas forget Westbrook was on CP in game 1 and he hit 100 3s. Thabo was on him rest of the series while Westbrook was on Reddick:lol :lol
CP is the most skilled player for sure. One of the best perimeter defenders and top 3 defender at his position along with Rubio and Bledsoe and almost always defends the best player on the other team unless its a big he guards 1-3, best passer in the league, best playmaker, one of the best finishers at the rim, some of the best footwork and use of angles, great postgame, best midrange shooter, best pullup game, great overall shooter, best ball handler, best pickandroll player, best high screen and roll player. All at 5'11 with alot of strength for his size but not as athletic as most other PGs. CP is easily the most skilled right now
he plays with skills, IQ and craft. Westbrook is the perfect foil for him with his physicality, athleticism, speed and tenacity. the only player ive ever seen that i would say is no doubt more skilled as a basketball player is Larry Legend.
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RightTwoCensor
07-19-2015, 08:33 PM
Kyrie Irving
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 08:34 PM
Kyrie Irving
kyrie cant post up
his passing isnt elite
defends alright
midatlantic09
07-19-2015, 08:49 PM
kyrie cant post up
his passing isnt elite
defends alright
He dominates NBA teams at 6'2...
RightTwoCensor
07-19-2015, 08:55 PM
kyrie cant post up
his passing isnt elite
defends alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU3s_HRP5ig
In the first couple minutes...
Touch Pass in the Half-Court
Touch Pass on the Fastbreak
Behind The Back off loose ball
Full Court Pass
Threw The Legs Behind The Back in the Half-Court
Threw The Legs Behind The Back to a Spot-Up Shooter
Accurate Pick and Roll Bounce Passes
Accurate Lob Passes
This is all from two seasons ago when Kyrie had inferior teammates. His APG numbers may pale in comparison to other Pass-First PGs, but you can't discredit him for his role as the team's go-to scoring option.
Kyrie can shoot fadaways from the post, but he doesn't have to resort to posting up because he has elite handles and is more dangerous from the perimeter.
No player in the league has a better combination of handles, shooting, and finishing in traffic than Kyrie Irving, therefore is the most skilled player in the league.
Fudge
07-19-2015, 08:56 PM
Kevin Durant
LeBron James
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
07-19-2015, 09:05 PM
Kyrie Irving
One of the worst defenders in the league and his speed/athleticism is a big part of his success
midatlantic09
07-19-2015, 09:09 PM
Kevin Durant
LeBron James
Those guys are not the most skills, bro. They may be the top 2 in the league, but their size has a lot to do with that. Make both of them 6'2/6'3 with the same skillset and what do you have? MVP caliber NBA players?
RightTwoCensor
07-19-2015, 09:21 PM
There's a difference between the best player and most skilled player.
Lebron was never the most skilled player in the league because he always was a shaky jumpshooter and FT shooter, as well as his handles and footwork being subpar.
Kyrie is elite in every aspect you'd want in a PG offensively. His defense has been passable (even though I don't include defense into the equation to find the most skilled player)
Smoke117
07-19-2015, 09:24 PM
There's a difference between the best player and most skilled player.
Lebron was never the most skilled player in the league because he always was a shaky jumpshooter and FT shooter, as well as his handles and footwork being subpar.
Kyrie is elite in every aspect you'd want in a PG offensively. His defense has been passable (even though I don't include defense into the equation to find the most skilled player)
LOL...for a guy his size his handles are excellent. I don't even like Lebron, but some of the the shit you haters come up with is pretty moronic.
Young X
07-19-2015, 09:25 PM
Kyrie is an unimpressive passer/playmaker. He's below average in the primary skill requirement for his position.
paul
post moves check
shooting check
passing check
defense check
handles check
How are his current dunking skills doe?
ShawkFactory
07-19-2015, 09:53 PM
How are his current dunking skills doe?
How were Larry Bird's dunking skills?
inclinerator
07-19-2015, 09:54 PM
How are his current dunking skills doe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjzvJYWtoc
CTbasketball92
07-19-2015, 10:02 PM
CP3 has had pretty damn stacked team since he went to the Clips, so...
His teams have been kind of top heavy, and funny enough, "stacked" isnttt good enough in the west. Spurs and Warriors have the some of the deepest squads in recent memory, if not in NBA history. A bunch of consummate role players who play defense and do all the other stuff. Add that doesn''t even take into account coach Pop, arguably the league's best coach.
Kerr is also excellent and he really stepped into a warriors team that had talent and a great chemistry together. Getting Iggy and Lee of the bench was also genius.
CP3 has simply never had a situation like that, and if he'd played the other game against the rockets they mightve pulled it out.
I think you can put westbrook, irving and James Harden on that squad and they'd still take the ship.
CTbasketball92
07-19-2015, 10:10 PM
One of the worst defenders in the league and his speed/athleticism is a big part of his success
Yeah defensively he isn't good (though he's not really that bad), but his one-on-one skills are almost peerless. He's pretty much a CP3 without the GOAT type passing ability.
Kyrie is the point guard version of Kobe Bryant (can't dunk on ppl though). He does rely on athleticism more than most realize, though. He might be the most agile PG in the game and his first step is top tier.
But in game one of the finals he was hampered by his knee and missing his great athleticism ... and he still took the game over against the best defense in the game, while playing excellent defense on Curry.
Still, I don't take kyrie's skills over pauls... but he's in the discussion.
Kobe is also up there, height or not.
Fudge
07-19-2015, 10:15 PM
Still Durant and LeBron for me. Sorry, idiots.
Two best players in the world, while also being the most skilled. Deal with it.
kennethgriffin
07-19-2015, 10:44 PM
42% vs 37%. You can make a point without lying.
Well, I guess YOU can't :lol
i will admit lebrons better than old kobe from inside 5 feet
but outside 5 feet prime lebrons 27% and old kobes at 37%
ShawkFactory
07-19-2015, 11:01 PM
i will admit lebrons better than old kobe from inside 5 feet
but outside 5 feet prime lebrons 27% and old kobes at 37%
What.
Jesus Christ kid
sd3035
07-20-2015, 12:49 AM
Kobe, Durant, Curry, Kyrie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjzvJYWtoc
Keyword: current.
How were Larry Bird's dunking skills?
Hence why bird ain't the most skilled player in the league.
KendrickPerkins
07-20-2015, 12:55 AM
Keyword: current.
Huh? Skills usually get better as you age.
That was a display of his athleticism right there. CP3 is probably the most skilled, but that's no surprise. He has to be or else we wouldn't know much about him.
at 6 feet, if you ain't the most skilled then you're likely not a superstar. Iverson was probably the most skilled in his day too, though I wasn't alive to see him play.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
07-20-2015, 01:13 AM
Huh? Skills usually get better as you age.
That was a display of his athleticism right there. CP3 is probably the most skilled, but that's no surprise. He has to be or else we wouldn't know much about him.
at 6 feet, if you ain't the most skilled then you're likely not a superstar. Iverson was probably the most skilled in his day too, though I wasn't alive to see him play.
Iverson was more heart, tenacity, endurance, speed and toughness than skill. That why he was inefficient and CP isn't even 6ft..... 5'11 tops
midatlantic09
07-20-2015, 01:18 AM
Still Durant and LeBron for me. Sorry, idiots.
Two best players in the world, while also being the most skilled. Deal with it.
Those guys are way too large and shouldn't even be in the conversation. Ask yourself this: Would a 6'2 Lebron or Durant be an NBA all-star? Yes or no.
Fudge
07-20-2015, 01:20 AM
Those guys are way too large and shouldn't even be in the conversation. Ask yourself this: Would a 6'2 Lebron or Durant be an NBA all-star? Yes or no.
A 6'2" Durant is Steph Curry.
So..yeah.
But he's 6'10" and more skilled than the little boy.
Most skilled player in the NBA. LeBron right behind.
ImKobe
07-20-2015, 01:21 AM
Kobe easily...
skills does not mean efficiency...he played on one leg and with a torn rotator cuff and still dropped 44 on the Warriors on good efficiency, destroyed Atlanta on the road, dropped two triple-doubles, had 17 assists playing against Lebron and the Cavs, hit a game-winner against Indiana etc..
just look up Kobe offense highlights from 08-12 Playoffs, no one else can score in that many ways and make it look so effortless plus people who have watched him know that he is a great playmaker at the 2 position and could have been an elite, top 3 PG if he chose to do so in the right system.
SwayDizzle
07-20-2015, 01:41 AM
it's gotta be Kobes
dannysc305
07-20-2015, 01:41 AM
Kobe
Wade (don't sleep)
CP
Steph
Kyrie
Honorable mention: Tony Parker
midatlantic09
07-20-2015, 02:14 AM
A 6'2" Durant is Steph Curry.
So..yeah.
But he's 6'10" and more skilled than the little boy.
Most skilled player in the NBA. LeBron right behind.
:lol
RidonKs
07-20-2015, 07:48 AM
i'll take kyrie for this title
ShawkFactory
07-20-2015, 11:05 AM
Hence why bird ain't the most skilled player in the league.
One of the most skilled players of all time. Many would say THE most skilled player of all time.
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