Is Chris Paul One Of the Most Underwhelming Players? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Smoke117

07-19-2015, 07:23 PM

A CP3 hate thread...wow this is original. :rolleyes: He only carried the Clippers past the defending champs on one leg in game 7...but super underwhelming. It's super pathetic how all the CP3 haters are kobe stans/laker fans. You couldn't get him so your only recourse is to hate on him...that's some sad shit.

Young X

07-19-2015, 07:28 PM

Nah he's one of the best PG's I've ever seen. And I don't care about the playoff exits either. He consistently plays at a high level, runs his teams offense and defends. Can't ask for much else, you need to be on a great team to win a championship.

You know he's a great player too, that's why you wanted him on the Lakers. Stop fronting.

bobopenguin

07-19-2015, 07:51 PM

i dunno what u are on about?
CP3 makes everyone around him better... this guy is more legit than lebron in terms of offense creation, ball moment and uplifting teammates ability..

ffs, he was compared to deron.. (homer)

superteamtheory

07-19-2015, 07:54 PM

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TheMarkMadsen

07-19-2015, 07:56 PM

And I don't care about the playoff exits either.

yeah we know that no matter how many times he comes up short in the post season regardless if he has the best player on the court on his team and a championship coach that it won't matter to you..

you'll continue to "not care" about him getting bounced early in the playoffs, getting bounced by 58 on his home court, absolutley collapsing against the rockets etc etc until he gets to the WCF and then you'll use that as an argument for his greatness

it's a win win for you, no matter if he fails or if he succeeds he'll always be an all time great player in your heart

how cute..

https://i.imgur.com/6BVB3RV.gif

Smoke117

07-19-2015, 08:00 PM

yeah we know that no matter how many times he comes up short in the post season regardless if he has the best player on the court on his team and a championship coach that it won't matter to you..

you'll continue to "not care" about him getting bounced early in the playoffs, getting bounced by 58 on his home court, absolutley collapsing against the rockets etc etc until he gets to the WCF and then you'll use that as an argument for his greatness

it's a win win for you, no matter if he fails or if he succeeds he'll always be an all time great player in your heart

how cute..

https://i.imgur.com/6BVB3RV.gif

Great example of a kobe stan (not so much a laker fan) hating on CP3 because the Lakers couldn't get him and extend Kobe's relevance...bro, move on.

TheMarkMadsen

07-19-2015, 08:02 PM

Good example of a kobe stan (not so much a laker fan) hating on CP3 because they couldn't get him. Bro...move on.

this doesn't even make sense..

if i'm a kobe stan and "not so much a laker fan" why would I give a fucc if Cp3 is on the Lakers when Kobe has been out for the past two years and would get zero credit for anything the Lakers are doing without him..

try to follow your own logic dumbo

:roll: :roll:

Smoke117

07-19-2015, 08:05 PM

this doesn't even make sense..

if i'm a kobe stan and "not so much a laker fan" why would I give a fucc if Cp3 is on the Lakers when Kobe has been out for the past two years and would get zero credit for anything the Lakers are doing without him..

try to follow your own logic dumbo

:roll: :roll:

Uh...the trade was going to go down in 2011...I'm pretty sure Kobe was still healthy then. Kobrick likely doesn't get injured either if CP3 is there, good (moronic) call though.

Black and White

07-19-2015, 08:05 PM

Legends66NBA7

07-19-2015, 08:07 PM

bobopenguin

07-19-2015, 08:08 PM

You mean Deron was compared to him

to be fair, it was cp3 vs deron back then.

Legends66NBA7

07-19-2015, 08:09 PM

You mean Deron was compared to him

They were both compared to each other coming out of the 05 draft and it was big on who would end up with the better career. Decade later, it's already been settled. Probably was settled when Deron got traded, I think...

TheMarkMadsen

07-19-2015, 08:17 PM

Uh...the trade was going to go down in 2011...I'm pretty sure Kobe was still healthy then. Kobrick likely doesn't get injured either if CP3 is there, good (moronic) call though.

you are trying so hard to deflect from actually having to counter any point I make

all you have in your arsenal is to whine and bitch and claim people who are pointing out the Cp3rd round virgin failures must be Kobe stans

come with something better, discuss basketball, counter something I said

or just continue being a L holding bitch

your choice

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people point out Cp3rd round vigin and his failures because he gets talked about like he's some all time great player and all you have to support that claim is advanced stats..

what's missing is actual success on the court.. he's had plenty of help.. it's been put up or shut up time for awhile now.. hasn't gotten shit done has he?

yall are holding on to the hope that he makes a WCF to justify your claims.. and even then.. that's a pretty low standard to hold "the best PG since Magic" to

Young X

07-19-2015, 08:18 PM

yeah we know that no matter how many times he comes up short in the post season regardless if he has the best player on the court on his team and a championship coach that it won't matter to you..

you'll continue to "not care" about him getting bounced early in the playoffs, getting bounced by 58 on his home court, absolutley collapsing against the rockets etc etc until he gets to the WCF and then you'll use that as an argument for his greatness

it's a win win for you, no matter if he fails or if he succeeds he'll always be an all time great player in your heart

how cute..I'm just logical and have followed his career.

One player can't cover an entire team's weaknesses especially if he's constantly facing teams just as good if not better than his every round. Until I see him underperform for an entire series and lose to a clearly inferior team I'll never blame him. Same goes for any other player.

I don't give a f*ck if he never gets to the finals, if he continues to play excellent basketball and impact the game at a high level he'a a great in my book.

truhooper

07-19-2015, 09:16 PM

Steve Nash

IllegalD

07-19-2015, 09:19 PM

ShawkFactory

07-19-2015, 09:34 PM

Smoke117

07-19-2015, 09:39 PM

Dude couldn't even make it to the WCFs with a more stacked team than Kobe's ever had.

Imagine if Pau Gasol was putting up 30 point tripple doubles like Blake was, and prime KB failed to win the chip, let alone get to the WCFs. You homosexuals would be all over him.

:whatever: Yeah he only had the guy with the monkier...most dominant all time. Lets ask...what front court would you guys rather have...Blake Griffin, Deandre Jordan, and Matt Barnes or prime Shaq and nobodies? Exactly.

Svendiggity

07-19-2015, 10:12 PM

Dude couldn't even make it to the WCFs with a more stacked team than Kobe's ever had.

Imagine if Pau Gasol was putting up 30 point tripple doubles like Blake was, and prime KB failed to win the chip, let alone get to the WCFs. You homosexuals would be all over him.

But he's not as good as Kobe. He's smaller and relies on teammates more. He's a small guy. How often has a small guy led a team to a championship?

Better comparisons are Stockton or AI. A long list of great players will never win because guys like Lebron, Kobe, Mj, Duncan, Shaq, and Magic win. Chris Paul is barely 6 foot and isn't very athletic. He's done the best he can possibly do with what he's been blessed with.

TripleA

07-19-2015, 10:36 PM

Chris Paul might be the most ridiculous conundrum to rank him as a player.

His stats plus advanced stats make him out to be a top 10 player of all time but his lack of team success and random chokes cause to be pushed down.

If we are only looking at numbers Cp3 is the second greatest point guard of all time and a top 10 player. There is more than numbers though and we can't quantify his affect on how his team finds a way to lose no matter the situation to a lesser teams . He may be the unluckiest players of all-time.

Young X

07-19-2015, 10:44 PM

^ What lesser teams did he lose to besides possibly the Rockets last season?

He lost to:

'08 Spurs
'09 Nuggets
'11 Lakers
'12 Spurs
'13 Grizzlies
'14 Thunder
'15 Rockets

Rockets last year are the only team that might've been inferior and they still won the same amount of games as LAC plus had homecourt. Going into the playoffs everybody had the Clippers losing to the Spurs in the 1st round.

icewill36

07-19-2015, 11:04 PM

to me the clippers have kind of suffered from the same thing the mcgrady/ming rockets did.

that team constantly had a star player injured in the playoffs, and drew a bad matchup (utah jazz) multiple times. they didnt get good role players until aaron brooks, carl landry, and ron artest. but by then tmac has just about done with yao soon to follow.

i dont feel like the clippers have always been stacked and this last postseason is the first time blake has been healthy coming into the playoffs.

people say they underachieved when no one even expected them to get out of the first round.

notatop29pg

07-20-2015, 12:45 AM

to be fair, it was cp3 vs deron back then.

It's been CP3 V Insert "Next big thing PG" here every year for the last 10yrs.

That says it all.

masonanddixon

07-20-2015, 07:23 AM

I still can't believe he blew a 3-1 series lead over a truly garbage Rockets squad.

Seriously, if he were white and choked like that we would never hear the end of it.

Ncrazyballa

07-20-2015, 07:33 AM

I'm just logical and have followed his career.

One player can't cover an entire team's weaknesses especially if he's constantly facing teams just as good if not better than his every round. Until I see him underperform for an entire series and lose to a clearly inferior team I'll never blame him. Same goes for any other player.

I don't give a f*ck if he never gets to the finals, if he continues to play excellent basketball and impact the game at a high level he'a a great in my book.

you are one sad person.