Ty Lawson to the Rockets

[TheMarkMadsen]

official now

per woj

Rockets send Kostas, Pablo, Joey Dorsey, Nick Johnson and a protected first.. great deal for houston

[Q.E.C]

:rockon:

[PJR]

He gonna be up in Onyx club with Harden fcking strippers off the henny :lol

[lilteapot]

Long overdue. He ruined his reputation in Denver and he's better off being used elsewhere anyway.

[TemporaMutantur]

:pimp:

[ronnymac]

I smell big things.

Lawson/Bwev
Harden/Thornton
Ariza/Brewer
Dmo/Jones
Dwight,Capella
:bowdown:

[superteamtheory]

:rockon:

nice. i didn't wanna see the Rockets drop off the face of the earth after a conference finals run...

so now they're... like still just 5th best in West..

[Kvnzhangyay]

Josh smith going to the clippers for winning :roll: :roll:

[inclinerator]

stacked

[TheMarkMadsen]

West continue to get deeper.

[RRR3]

The West is just filled with amazing (on paper) teams


Meanwhile the east is a barren wasteland

[Rocketswin2013]

If we still have DMO and Capela, ill be pretty ****ing excited.

[ronnymac]

We finally got someone besides harden who can creat. This will make harden even better.

[Kvnzhangyay]

If we still have DMO and Capela, ill be pretty ****ing excited.

Rockets got Ty for basically nothing when considering they're win now

Kostas+Prigoni+Dorsey+Johnson+Future Protected 1st

[ronnymac]

We Kept Jones And Dmo. What A Freaking Steal. Dorsey, Kpop And Prig For Lawson? Morey You Magnaficent Bastard

[RightTwoCensor]

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[TheMarkMadsen]

there are legit 5 teams with championship or bust aspirations next year

OKC, GSW, HOU, LAC, SAS

all built to win next year.. the west will be a blood bath

[RRR3]

there are legit 5 teams with championship or bust aspirations next year

OKC, GSW, HOU, LAC, SAS

all built to win next year.. the west will be a blood bath
What about Cleveland? They are looking great on paper as well. The Bulls could be there too IF Rose returns to form.

[ronnymac]

Lawson and harden will be offensive monsterious backcourt and then bev will be used for defense. Thornton is another shar shooting scorer as well. Wow then you have Ariza and Brewer on D.

[ronnymac]

What about Cleveland? They are looking great on paper as well. The Bulls could be there too IF Rose returns to form.
I think he mean the WCF

[Rocketswin2013]

Rockets got Ty for basically nothing when considering they're win now

Kostas+Prigoni+Dorsey+Johnson+Future Protected 1st
That's pretty great. Lawson's defense is pretty abominable, but he can't be much worse than Terry and Prigioni were.

[TheMarkMadsen]

What about Cleveland? They are looking great on paper as well. The Bulls could be there too IF Rose returns to form.

I meant in the west

Lakers got 20 games against those 5 lmao

fuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccccccc me

[SpecialQue]

Holy fvcking shit.

:eek:

So that's what...Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, and MAYBE the Clippers and Thunder that are legit contenders?

Another bloodbath season.

Meanwhile, in Lebron's all like:

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-12-2015/Q1SV2_.gif

[r0drig0lac]

http://media.tumblr.com/e16dd16f4de841b391f118f72714a54e/tumblr_inline_nbat9kBEXc1satqni.gif

[RRR3]

I meant in the west

Lakers got 20 games against those 5 lmao

fuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccccccc me
Dude if the Lakers suck again they can get another good pick.

With all that young talent they should be good again in a few years. Patience.

[imdaman99]

Got him for pennies on the dollar. Lawson wanted out, was willing to drink his way out.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

there are legit 5 teams with championship or bust aspirations next year

OKC, GSW, HOU, LAC, SAS

all built to win next year.. the west will be a blood bath


One of those teams won't even make it out of the first round. Think about that.

[SpecialQue]

I meant in the west

Lakers got 20 games against those 5 lmao

fuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccccccc me

Lakers at the end of this season:

http://www.rant.com/rant_dot_com_images/kermit_bent_over_sofa_sm.jpg

[TheMarkMadsen]

One of those teams won't even make it out of the first round. Think about that.

that's insane .. got a feeling who that might be doe :lol :lol

they really need to do something about the playoffs, these are 5 of the 6 best teams in the league

[Millslapped]

Dude if the Lakers suck again they can get another good pick.

With all that young talent they should be good again in a few years. Patience.
they have to really suck though. they only get it if it's top 3...
and the year after this one orlando has their pick unless they are top 5..

[LoneyROY7]

GREAT move by Houston. West getting even MORE stacked. :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Dude if the Lakers suck again they can get another good pick.

With all that young talent they should be good again in a few years. Patience.

Lakers have no chance at their pick unless Russ & Randle are bust and Kobe gets hurt

[bballbball]

Prigioni is retiring. Dorsey was probably getting cut. Papa + Johnson haven't shown much in limited minutes. They pretty much traded their late 1st rounder for probably early 2nd rounder, so 10 spot difference at most. They made out like bandits, since they didn't have to give up Motiejunas or Jones.

[Smoke117]

Nice pick up...a legit pg who can take the pressure off of Harden.

[RRR3]

This isn't fair anymore. I was ok with conference disparity until recently because it wasn't truly ridiculous but now it's legitimately eye opening.

Move Grizzlies and/or Pels east or get some stars there.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lakers at the end of this season:

http://www.rant.com/rant_dot_com_images/kermit_bent_over_sofa_sm.jpg


we'd be lucky to win 10 of those

I think we'd make the 8th spot in the east doe

[Smook A.]

My dick is so ****ing hard right now, god dammit. :dancin

[Millslapped]

we'd be lucky to win 10 of those

I think we'd make the 8th spot in the east doe
doubt it.

[Smoke117]

we'd be lucky to win 10 of those

I think we'd make the 8th spot in the east doe

*whistle* Big accomplishment...you'd be the 8th seed with a losing record playing mostly east teams...woah, stop the presses.

[Spurs m8]

who cares...Lawson is a piece of shit and joins the two beta leaders....rockets are going nowhere.

Lawson suits the rockets actually...the scum trio

[Milbuck]

GAME. F*CKING. OVER.

[UK2K]

official now

per woj

Rockets send Kostas, Pablo, Joey Dorsey, Nick Johnson and a protected first.. great deal for houston
Got him for scraps. Wow.

Morey making another big gamble. In Morey we trust.

[Sportal]

Rockets just got ridiculous for practically free... Wow.

[bballbball]

How the hell does the Denver not even demand either one of Sam Dekker or Montrezi Harrell who the Rockets just drafted? Instead they get...Joey Dorsey.

[Blingster]

Good acquisition for Houston..

A couple of things people need to remember.

1: Ty is coming off of 2 Dui's. He is currently in Rehab for said dui's. He still hasn't been sentenced for either one. A lingering suspension is still possible. (although this is a short term problem)

2: Ty was not a good locker room guy. Probably a non issue with the leadership in Houston.

3: No one knows where Ty's head is gonna be. Could he be back to him old self? if so, Houston could be a scary team . If not, they didn't give up much to acquire him.


Denver wanted him gone! just a couple of days ago, there were rumors of Denver waiving him.. so I guess both parties walked away with something.

Best wishes to Ty, it was a fun ride while it lasted.

[SaltyMeatballs]

aaaaaaand Morey does his magic AGAIN

[christian1923]

Chemistry killing move

[ronnymac]

The rockets can roll out a second unit of

Bev
Thornton
Brewer
Jones
Capella

That is better then majority of the eastern starting lineups.You can even go
Lawson
Thornton
Brewer
Dmo
Capella.

Most likely starting lineup will be

Lawson
Harden
Ariza
Dmo
Howard

but it gives us a lineup that you can mix and match.

[bballbball]

Good acquisition for Houston..

A couple of things people need to remember.

1: Ty is coming off of 2 Dui's. He is currently in Rehab for said dui's. He still hasn't been sentenced for either one. A lingering suspension is still possible. (although this is a short term problem)

2: Ty was not a good locker room guy. Probably a non issue with the leadership in Houston.

3: No one knows where Ty's head is gonna be. Could he be back to him old self? if so, Houston could be a scary team . If not, they didn't give up much to acquire him.


Denver wanted him gone! just a couple of days ago, there were rumors of Denver waiving him.. so I guess both parties walked away with something.

Best wishes to Ty, it was a fun ride while it lasted.

Just look forward to the Mudiay era. He's looked good in the summer league.

[kurple]

Ty will do great in Houston. He's either stupid or dont give a **** about his reputation, but he's still a good kid.

Will never forget the night we drafted him or his first game againt Utah


Will be rooting for him in May.. Tho it sucked getting so little in return

[Blingster]

Just look forward to the Mudiay era. He's looked good in the summer league.

That's one of the few bright spots here in Denver.

Mudiay, Jokic, Nurkic, and a healthy Gallo are all good things.

[UK2K]

The rockets can roll out a second unit of

Bev
Thornton
Brewer
Jones
Capella

That is better then majority of the eastern starting lineups.You can even go
Lawson
Thornton
Brewer
Dmo
Capella.

Most likely starting lineup will be

Lawson
Harden
Ariza
Dmo
Howard

but it gives us a lineup that you can mix and match.

That bench looks great.

[kurple]

aaaaaaand Morey does his magic AGAIN
how is it magic? Nuggets have been shopping Ty for months, and they would take pretty much anything for him after drafting Mudiay and Ty getting another DUI

no one else wanted him, cuz Houston sure as hell didnt outbid anyone with this

[ronnymac]

That bench looks great.
To be able to keep the trio of Jones, Dmo and Capella is a blessing. Gives us a huge frontline this coming season. I expect us to offer Terry the remaining 2.1 of the MLE and call it a offseason.

[WorldWarriors]

Dangerous team now. He seems like a good guard to pair with Harden.

[UK2K]

James Harden was second in NBA last season in points scored or produced off assists. Lawson was seventh.

If they can come together as a team before the playoffs, they're going to be in a great spot.

[Blingster]

how is it magic? Nuggets have been shopping Ty for months, and they would take pretty much anything for him after drafting Mudiay and Ty getting another DUI

no one else wanted him, cuz Houston sure as hell didnt outbid anyone with this

A few days ago Denver was reportedly considering waiving Ty.

This is a much better outcome for Denver.

[ronnymac]

A few days ago Denver was reportedly considering waiving Ty.

This is a much better outcome for Denver.
You guys will love Kostas. He is a great energy guy. Plays solid D and is a terrific passer. He is a streaky shooter, but he will become a fan fave.Dorsey is thrash but Nick Johnson has some potential.

[Milbuck]

James Harden was second in NBA last season in points scored or produced off assists. Lawson was seventh.

If they can come together as a team before the playoffs, they're going to be in a great spot.
Championship favorites. I have us in the first tier, OKC/Cleveland/SA/GS in the 2nd tier. There is not a better team on paper than Houston right now.

[UK2K]

https://youtu.be/zwXMCxfyOsw

Lawson is a perfect fit for the Rockets. He's gonna average double digit assists.

[Millslapped]

James Harden was second in NBA last season in points scored or produced off assists. Lawson was seventh.

If they can come together as a team before the playoffs, they're going to be in a great spot.
Link to that stat?

[UK2K]

how is it magic? Nuggets have been shopping Ty for months, and they would take pretty much anything for him after drafting Mudiay and Ty getting another DUI

no one else wanted him, cuz Houston sure as hell didnt outbid anyone with this
ESPN sources say that the Lakers were also a determined trade bidder for Ty Lawson, but Denver clearly preferred what the Rockets offered

[SaltyMeatballs]

James Harden was second in NBA last season in points scored or produced off assists. Lawson was seventh.

If they can come together as a team before the playoffs, they're going to be in a great spot.
Its magic because of how little we gave up for such a good player. The only thing we did before getting Lawson was re-signing Brewer and Bev. Then we signed Marcus Thornton. Rockets just went to sleep after that and then out of nowhere, Morey makes a splash. This is a great move.

[kurple]

You guys will love Kostas. He is a great energy guy. Plays solid D and is a terrific passer. He is a streaky shooter, but he will become a fan fave.Dorsey is thrash but Nick Johnson has some potential.
i doubt we keep anyone of them

unless more trades are around the corner

[NuggetsFan]

Lawson at his best is crazy underrated. Even last year he averaged almost 10 assists per game and under 3 TO's. Houston doesn't even need him to lead or be crazy aggressive with Harden. When he becomes passive it'll be fine.

He become a huge headcase with Denver the past year tho. Not sure how serious his drinking problem is but that's the only thing that can ruin this for Houston. They just got a 16/9 PG for free.

Don't mind it for Denver. He was done here and had no value. Lose/lose situation time to move forward.

[bobopenguin]

poor Bev, now he's gone.

[NuggetsFan]

i doubt we keep anyone of them

unless more trades are around the corner

Nick Johnson is really the only one who stands out. Hoping he can be like Barton who did nothing before Denver.

[kurple]

ESPN sources say that the Lakers were also a determined trade bidder for Ty Lawson, but Denver clearly preferred what the Rockets offered
oh, ESPN sources

then it must be true

[JimmyMcAdocious]

imo, Dwight benefits the most from this. Lawson is so good at getting in the lane and feeding his bigs.

[ronnymac]

poor Bev, now he's gone.
Bev will be used as a defensive weapon off the bench. The Rockets need him.

[UK2K]

Link to that stat?
Tweet by Jonathan Feigen.

[Blingster]

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/622950111207911424

Pablo is already a goner

[UK2K]

Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26
Agent Happy Walters on Ty Lawson to #Rockets: "He's excited. I spoke to him once about it.He's close w/James(Harden),tight w/Corey (Brewer)"
10:14 PM - 19 Jul 2015

He's going to be fine. He's going to have fun with a team of great players in every players favorite offense.

[NuggetsFan]

Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26
Agent Happy Walters on Ty Lawson to #Rockets: "He's excited. I spoke to him once about it.He's close w/James(Harden),tight w/Corey (Brewer)"
10:14 PM - 19 Jul 2015

He's going to be fine. He's going to have fun with a team of great players in every players favorite offense.

Maybe. Won't pretend to know how deep his personal issues are. He's in rehab tho. 2 DUI's in like 6 months. Certainly not something to brush off.

[ronnymac]

Jason Terry close to signing on as well according to mark berman a Houston journalist. nice. he is a solid vet with a calming effect.

[TheMarkMadsen]

ESPN sources say that the Lakers were also a determined trade bidder for Ty Lawson, but Denver clearly preferred what the Rockets offered

are you sure it wasn't because nobody wants to play with Kobe

[ronnymac]

Maybe. Won't pretend to know how deep his personal issues are. He's in rehab tho. 2 DUI's in like 6 months. Certainly not something to brush off.
We have John Lucas who was an alcoholic who has helped many former pro athletes with alcohol addiction. Help will help Ty.

[Smoke117]

are you sure it wasn't because nobody wants to play with Kobe


Your sarcasm is amusing in the face of the given. Trying to play light on facts...wow you are so clever. Why don't you have your own sitcom by now, bro?

[wang4three]

Man Ty Lawson came cheap.

[NuggetsFan]

We have John Lucas who was an alcoholic who has helped many former pro athletes with alcohol addiction. Help will help Ty.

Yeah. I bet alot depends on just how unhappy Ty was in Denver too. Maybe getting moved will go a long way. Plus not even sure if he's an alcoholic or just immature/ignorant.

Only thing that could really mess this up for Houston. Outside of his off the court issues he should kill it.

[imnew09]

Should really make it top 16 for playoff spot. And battle from there cuz as of now the East is not worth watching

[ronnymac]

Yeah. I bet alot depends on just how unhappy Ty was in Denver too. Maybe getting moved will go a long way. Plus not even sure if he's an alcoholic or just immature/ignorant.

Only thing that could really mess this up for Houston. Outside of his off the court issues he should kill it.
Once you can chalk it up to immaturity, but once you become a repeat offender the signs are there of a problematic trait. Hopefully a new city and team will help him recover. plus playing for a bonafide contender will help him set things straight. It is a great opportunity for him to start on a legit contender.

[Lebron23]

Should really make it top 16 for playoff spot. And battle from there cuz as of now the East is not worth watching


I don't think the Lakers would make it into the playoffs even if they play in the Eastern Conference. You annoying J@ck@$$.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Your sarcasm is amusing in the face of the given. Trying to play light on facts...wow you are so clever. Why don't you have your own sitcom by now, bro?

dat salt

:lol :lol

[UK2K]

Once you can chalk it up to immaturity, but once you become a repeat offender the signs are there of a problematic trait. Hopefully a new city and team will help him recover. plus playing for a bonafide contender will help him set things straight. It is a great opportunity for him to start on a legit contender.
Sounds to me like he played for a bad team in a cold ass climate and just DGAF.

He's got a real shot to be a champion here, and Houston has the leadership and assets to keep him straight.


Lawson/Bev/Terry
Harden/Thornton/Brewer
Ariza/McDaniels/Dekker
DMo/Jones/Harrell
Dwight/Capela/DMo

That's a solid lineup.

[Lebron23]

Excellent move by the Rockets. Lawson is a solid acquisition. Now that Patrick Beverly and Donatas Motiejunas are back. They are going to be a much better team in the playoffs.

[UK2K]

At least on paper, Lawson seems like an excellent fit in Houston, provided he stays out of trouble. Rockets coach Kevin McHale runs an uptempo system, which caters to Lawson's strengths of speed and playmaking ability in the open floor.

Houston is also heavily dependent on the three-point shot, setting an NBA single-season record in 2014-15 for field goals made from beyond the arc. Lawson is a career 36.9 percent shooter from three, but his ability to penetrate the lane and distribute proficiently has to excite Rockets fans.

In addition to MVP runner-up James Harden, the Rockets now have two exceptional slashers to the rim who can generate clean looks for teammates. Lawson could be the X-factor who solidifies Houston as a real threat to knock Golden State off its perch atop the West.

I like it. I really do.

[IncarceratedBob]

Lawson is a scumbag and wouldn't surprise me if he got yet another DUI before the season starts.

[bballbball]

Harden was #1 in the league last year for assists leading to 3 pt shots. #2 was Lawson.

[MellowYellow]

:facepalm at houston fans happy about getting douchebag like Lawson on their team

[Smoke117]

dat salt

:lol :lol


If speaking the truth makes me "salty" than yeah...i'm salty as **** and you have me bent over a barrel. Eeek, bro. :rolleyes:

[sundizz]

If Tyson doesn't have a drinking problem what is the big deal with him getting a DUI?

When I was in college seemed like people drove buzzed all the time and most never got caught. The ones that got caught obviously didn't do it again but that is because they are not millionaire athletes not that they all of a sudden became better people.


I'm not trying to downplay a DUI but i don't equate that with a drinking problem but rather with an ego/stupidity problem while drunk (many people r like this).

If that is the case all Houston needs to do is hire some guy for 50k to be Ty's "bodyguard" and be his designated driver.

[KendrickPerkins]

He's not that good.

Not like this move changes anything.

[sundizz]

He's not that good.

Not like this move changes anything.

You clearly know nothing bout hoops. Ty is a borderline all star level pg. If he played in the East he could definitely have a chance of making the All-Star team. He is bawse penetrator, dimer and scorer.

[KendrickPerkins]

You clearly know nothing bout hoops. Ty is a borderline all star level pg. If he played in the East he could definitely have a chance of making the All-Star team. He is bawse penetrator, dimer and scorer.
Ok, retarded kobe stan. :oldlol:

Don't tell other people they know nothing about hoops. You've been proven to be a ****ing idiot that can't even decipher when someones being serious.

OKC is winning the West, Kobe is retiring injured, and you're gonna be on here getting bullied. <------- Reality

[Blingster]

Ok, retarded kobe stan. :oldlol:

Don't tell other people they know nothing about hoops. You've been proven to be a ****ing idiot that can't even decipher when someones being serious.

OKC is winning the West, Kobe is retiring injured, and you're gonna be on here getting bullied. <------- Reality


Sorry, OKC isn't winning the west.

San Antonio, Golden state, maybe Memphis and Clippers are better than OKC.

[inclinerator]

tyson lawson

[KendrickPerkins]

Sorry, OKC isn't winning the west.

San Antonio, Golden state, maybe Memphis and Clippers are better than OKC.
Jesus.

You actually believe it which is what makes it sad.

Jesus.

[Blingster]

Jesus.

You actually believe it which is what makes it sad.

Jesus.


okay, dude..

please troll elsewhere. This has nothing to do with Ty.

I'll even go out on a limb and say Houston will be better than OKC.

[Fudge]

Ok, retarded kobe stan. :oldlol:

Don't tell other people they know nothing about hoops. You've been proven to be a ****ing idiot that can't even decipher when someones being serious.

OKC is winning the West, Kobe is retiring injured, and you're gonna be on here getting bullied. <------- Reality
:roll:

[Fudge]

Stay mediocre for life, Denver. :cheers:

Shit franchise. Shit fans. Shit city...

CHEERS!

[DMAVS41]

Got him for scraps. Wow.

Morey making another big gamble. In Morey we trust.

How is it a gamble?

They gave up nothing of real value for a legit starting pg that compliments that team well...who happens to be locked up for the next two years.

It's not even a gamble because if it doesn't work...it really doesn't even hurt you at all.

Lawson also has just about every incentive to turn his career/life around as well.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I know we already got Russell and Clarkson, but shit...if Denver accepted that offer, surly we could of gotten a deal with Swaggy as the centrepiece :facepalm

[LONGTIME]

Sorry, OKC isn't winning the west.

San Antonio, Golden state, maybe Memphis and Clippers are better than OKC.

:oldlol: None of those teams are better than OKC.

[KendrickPerkins]

okay, dude..

please troll elsewhere. This has nothing to do with Ty.

I'll even go out on a limb and say Houston will be better than OKC.
I'm not trolling.

OKC is the clear-cut favorite with two top 5 players, a new coach, and finally an offensive post presence.

You're a ****ing fool. Stop posting, please. You know nothing.

[KendrickPerkins]

Stay mediocre for life, Denver. :cheers:

Shit franchise. Shit fans. Shit city...

CHEERS!
:roll:

****ing retarded hippies. I swear to God Denver has the stupidest, most obscure autistic fanbase of anyone. These dudes can't comminute without coming off as complete drug addled retards.

Houston better than OKC? In what universe? :roll:

[Lebron23]

Ok, retarded kobe stan. :oldlol:

Don't tell other people they know nothing about hoops. You've been proven to be a ****ing idiot that can't even decipher when someones being serious.

OKC is winning the West, Kobe is retiring injured, and you're gonna be on here getting bullied. <------- Reality


God Damn it Fudge. You have no regard for human life.

[Blingster]

I'm not trolling.

OKC is the clear-cut favorite with two top 5 players, a new coach, and finally an offensive post presence.

You're a ****ing fool. Stop posting, please. You know nothing.

Cleveland, San Antonio, GSW are Favorited over OKC. Hardly clear cut favorites.

[KendrickPerkins]

Cleveland, San Antonio, GSW are Favorited over OKC. Hardly clear cut favorites.
We'z talkin' 'bout dee western conference breh!!! huhuhuhh let's take nother hit bro!

Tired of your drug talk. OKC is coming out of the west, regardless of your LSD or shrooms consumption.

[Blingster]

We'z talkin' 'bout dee western conference breh!!! huhuhuhh let's take nother hit bro!

Tired of your drug talk. OKC is coming out of the west, regardless of your LSD or shrooms consumption.


OKay, don't let facts stand in the way of your argument. :banghead:

[Fudge]

Nugget fans melting down...HARD.

Not looking good.

[KendrickPerkins]

OKay, don't let facts stand in the way of your argument. :banghead:
I don't care about any sort of betting odds, they mean nothing to a savant like me.

I know what's gonna happen, and I have superior basketball analysis compared to you.

If you think those teams, especially Clips/Rocks/Griz, are better or will have better seasons than OKC, then there's no hope for you as a fan. You're blind to reality. Which is no surprise considering you're probably tripping balls right now.

[Blingster]

Nugget fans melting down...HARD.

Not looking good.


I don't really see anyone melting down..

I'm glad that Ty and the Nuggets moved on. This trade allows Mudiay to develop. I'm more than okay with that. Forget the multiple DUI's, the missed practices, the stupidity that he posts on social media, ect. The time came to move on .

[el gringos]

Stay mediocre for life, Denver. :cheers:

Shit franchise. Shit fans. Shit city...

CHEERS!
I must be confused. I thought you were from okc and called Denver a shitty city. Franchises w what a 5 year history? Like a Boise st fan. See the ups and downs and then see how loyal and strong your fanbase is

[Fudge]

I must be retarded.
You sure are.

I'm a known Canadian, ya fatty.

You got your 15 seconds of fame just from me quoting your post. Happy?

[KendrickPerkins]

I must be confused. I thought you were from okc and called Denver a shitty city. Franchises w what a 5 year history? Like a Boise st fan. See the ups and downs and then see how loyal and strong your fanbase is
Shit franchise, shit fans, shit city.

Wooooooo !

Enjoy the lottery.

[ronnymac]

Sounds to me like he played for a bad team in a cold ass climate and just DGAF.

He's got a real shot to be a champion here, and Houston has the leadership and assets to keep him straight.


Lawson/Bev/Terry
Harden/Thornton/Brewer
Ariza/McDaniels/Dekker
DMo/Jones/Harrell
Dwight/Capela/DMo

That's a solid lineup.

Guys like Terry and Ariza are winners with great work ethic should help him out.

[NugzFan]

Stay mediocre for life, Denver. :cheers:

Shit franchise. Shit fans. Shit city...

CHEERS!


:oldlol: you seem upset.

This was a deal that had to be made. Lawson was toxic to our franchise and lockerroom. In no way is this a negative to the franchise, fans or city.

Keep trolling.

[NugzFan]

:roll:

****ing retarded hippies. I swear to God Denver has the stupidest, most obscure autistic fanbase of anyone. These dudes can't comminute without coming off as complete drug addled retards.

Houston better than OKC? In what universe? :roll:


You should read clutchfans if you want annoying and retarded fans.

[NugzFan]

Nugget fans melting down...HARD.

Not looking good.


It's mixed. A lot of us are ok with this deal. Ty had to go. Period.

But it won't compare to what happens when durant leaves. That will destroy the okc franchise.

[SwishSquared]

Houston traded guys who'd most likely ride the bench for any other team + a first for their biggest remaining hole- a guy who can legit create offense for others.

I don't know how Lawson's rehab is progressing, but hopefully he bounces back. This team could be absolutely loaded and it'll be fun to see this team gels together. Heck, if they need to ease him in, imagine how badly Lawson would kill 2nd units?

Key for Houston's season is health. They also have very legit depth, so going into the playoffs they should have less wear/tear on their main guys most likely compared to last year. 60-win season incoming if things break right.

Re: Terry- is he getting what's left of their MLE? If he'd sign for the vet min and Houston got Darrell Arthur with the remaining MLE, I think he'd fit in very well. Pretty good mid range shooter for a big man and plays PnR defense well.

Lawson-Harden-Ariza-DMo-Howard
Bev-Thorton-Brewer-Jones-Capella
Terry-McDaniels-Dekker-Harrell-Arthur

They also have plenty young talent still developing- Morey's FO shows again it's pretty ridiculous.

[NugzFan]

I must be confused. I thought you were from okc and called Denver a shitty city. Franchises w what a 5 year history? Like a Boise st fan. See the ups and downs and then see how loyal and strong your fanbase is


Well said. :cheers:

Fudge talks about fan bases as if okc has proven anything. Their fan base is nothing special and when they eventually start losing, we shall see how confident he is.

[Fudge]

Meltdowns....everywhere.

:yaohappy:

Keep them coming, Nigget fans.

[Sportal]

:oldlol: you seem upset.

This was a deal that had to be made. Lawson was toxic to our franchise and lockerroom. In no way is this a negative to the franchise, fans or city.

Keep trolling.

NugzFan...

I asked you Nuggets fans a like a week ago what you'd trade for Lawson.. Someone said "[something-something] and a bag of cheetos", dude.. That's practically what you got... For a what? 18/8 PG? Damn.. I know the drama, but seriously... I would take the cheetos now..

[el gringos]

You sure are.

I'm a known Canadian, ya fatty.

You got your 15 seconds of fame just from me quoting your post. Happy?
I feel bad for you and those who think this site gives them fame. Wish there were a board for just the fame and queer talk and leave this one for basketball. Hopefully for you something positive breaks for you in the real world

[NugzFan]

Meltdowns....everywhere.

:yaohappy:

Keep them coming, Nigget fans.


Where?

You are waaaay more upset about this deal than most nugget fans. :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

NugzFan...

I asked you Nuggets fans a like a week ago what you'd trade for Lawson.. Someone said "[something-something] and a bag of cheetos", dude.. That's practically what you got... For a what? 18/8 PG? Damn.. I know the drama, but seriously... I would take the cheetos now..

His value was almost zero. He had to go. It was basically a salary dump for us with a low first rounder in return.

I'm glad we can put this behind us and move forward with mudiay.

Lawson's actions forced the deal. We had to get rid of him so I understand we didn't get close to even return. Nature of trading in the NBA.

We won't see any actual positives of this move until 2-3 years from now.

[bigkingsfan]

What a dysfunctional franchise with no direction.

[Cleverness]

Damn, every team in the west getting stronger this summer... except the Warriors:banghead:

[NugzFan]

What a dysfunctional franchise with no direction.

:oldlol: nice try but no. The Kings are dysfunctional. This move was reducing chaos and making the franchise more stable.

[bigkingsfan]

:oldlol: nice try but no. The Kings are dysfunctional. This move was reducing chaos and making the franchise more stable.
Loser franchise with losing mentality will do that to players.

[Millslapped]

What a dysfunctional franchise with no direction.
You're literally a King's fan.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Loser franchise with losing mentality will do that to players.
Says the Kings fan :oldlol:

[bigkingsfan]

You're literally a King's fan.
You're literally a Hawk's fan.

[NugzFan]

Loser franchise with losing mentality will do that to players.

Are we still talking about Sacramento?

Because Lawson did this to himself. Denver had nothing to do with the dui's or any of his problems. I hope he finally gets the help he needs.

[RightTwoCensor]

You're literally a Hawk's fan.
He's actually a Magic fan, which is worse.

[NugzFan]

You're literally a Hawk's fan.

What the hell is going on? which side of the argument are you on? It seems like you are trashing the Kings more than anyone else.

[Millslapped]

You're literally a Hawk's fan.
Nah.

[bigkingsfan]

Are we still talking about Sacramento?

Because Lawson did this to himself. Denver had nothing to do with the dui's or any of his problems. I hope he finally gets the help he needs.

He will be fine once he gets away from that hell hole.

[Heavincent]

What a steal. They gave up some bench guys they didn't need and one pick for a 15/10 PG in his prime.

No excuses for Harden and Dwight.

[NugzFan]

He will be fine once he gets away from that hell hole.


Again, not Sacramento.

[outbreak]

I agree with Nugzfan on this for once. This is real life not NBA2k where everything is based on a rating score. Lawson caused his stock to be lower and had to moved, they took what they could get. Houston potentially got a great deal but the nuggets didn't make a bad move either. The league is packed with point guards right now and it's the easiest position to fill.

[bigkingsfan]

Again, not Sacramento.
Lawson never played for Sac, we don't accept that kind of behavior here.

[NugzFan]

Lawson never played for Sac, we don't accept that kind of behavior here.

Neither do we. Hence the deal. :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

I agree with Nugzfan on this for once. This is real life not NBA2k where everything is based on a rating score. Lawson caused his stock to be lower and had to moved, they took what they could get. Houston potentially got a great deal but the nuggets didn't make a bad move either. The league is packed with point guards right now and it's the easiest position to fill.

:cheers: and we already have ours set.

We dumped salary, helped our lockerroom and dont have to deal with all the off court problems, legal issues, suspensions, etc

I guess getting a first for a guy currently in rehab ain't bad.

[Sportal]

Lawson never played for Sac, we don't accept that kind of behavior here.

Lmao, you are in for such a historically stacked, drama-filled year, and here you are ignoring the bedlam that the Kings have got themselves into.

[bigkingsfan]

Lmao, you are in for such a historically stacked, drama-filled year, and here you are ignoring the bedlam that the Kings have got themselves into.
Nothing but high iq and blue collars on the roster, coach by a future hall of famer.

[outbreak]

:cheers: and we already have ours set.

We dumped salary, helped our lockerroom and dont have to deal with all the off court problems, legal issues, suspensions, etc

I guess getting a first for a guy currently in rehab ain't bad.
Yeah, some teams reach a point where you need to just start fresh and take what's on offer. With Mudiay there you want the best possible situation for him from the get go. You don't want lawson being a dick in the locker room to him.

[RightTwoCensor]

Ty Lawson has never been this way before the went into tank mode

http://i.gyazo.com/4d7b32995c72f26a0b074b6880f741d4.png

He'll serve whatever short suspension he gets and will be back to his old self.

[Sportal]

Nothing but high iq and blue collars on the roster, coach by a future hall of famer.

Who, in the end, would have got more out of the Nuggets, who you are bashing on, than the team that you are supporting, with these "high iq and blue collars".

I'd like to see the Kings get better than 57-25 in the next decade. Sit down.

[bigkingsfan]

Who, in the end, would have got more out of the Nuggets, who you are bashing on, than the team that you are supporting, with these "high iq and blue collars".

I'd like to see the Kings get better than 57-25 in the next decade. Sit down.
Get your popcorn ready.

[Sportal]

Get your popcorn ready.

For an atomic meltdown? I'm ready.

[GIF REACTION]

Nothing but high iq and blue collars on the roster, coach by a future hall of famer.
:cheers:

Love you, bro.

Nugfag can beat it. Your team is LOTTERY TRASH. Face it kid. Gig's up.

[bigkingsfan]

:cheers:

Love you, bro.

Nugfag can beat it. Your team is LOTTERY TRASH. Face it kid. Gig's up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHgD-rcp1-E

:dancin :basketball

[GIF REACTION]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHgD-rcp1-E

:dancin :basketball
:dancin :applause:

They peanut butter and JEALOUS.

[KendrickPerkins]

It's mixed. A lot of us are ok with this deal. Ty had to go. Period.

But it won't compare to what happens when durant leaves. That will destroy the okc franchise.
Nuggets didn't have a franchise to destroy, its always been shit.

Ty leaving is just another expected occurrence. Denver is either mediocre or laughably bad. That's how it is now and for the foreseeable future.

Durant has said on many occasions he'd like his jersey retired in OKC, and all logical signs and indicators point towards KD signing back with OKC. So your words really have no merit.

[ronnymac]

Is there any Mods here? this thread has been derailed ....

[bdreason]

Honestly, they're better off starting Beverely. All Lawson is gonna do is take the ball out of Harden's hands... and play no defense. Splash Bros gonna feast against that defensive backcourt.

[ronnymac]

Honestly, they're better off starting Beverely. All Lawson is gonna do is take the ball out of Harden's hands... and play no defense. Splash Bros gonna feast against that defensive backcourt.
Harden was exhausted by the Warriors series. You cant expect one person to do everything all the time and have the defense collapse on him. Lawson allows the Rockets to bring Hardens minutes down and if you double Harden now the Rockets have another damn good backcourt scorer who can creat off the dribble.

If anything with Lawson I can see Harden having more energy in the 4th quarters and scoring more.

[bdreason]

Harden was exhausted by the Warriors series. You cant expect one person to do everything all the time and have the defense collapse on him. Lawson allows the Rockets to bring Hardens minutes down and if you double Harden now the Rockets have another damn good backcourt scorer who can creat off the dribble.

If anything with Lawson I can see Harden having more energy in the 4th quarters and scoring more.


I know. I'm just trying to make myself feel better about the trade.

[Springsteen]

What if he's convicted for the DUI? Then what?

[Achilleas]

Honestly, they're better off starting Beverely. All Lawson is gonna do is take the ball out of Harden's hands... and play no defense. Splash Bros gonna feast against that defensive backcourt.

this
harden and lawson can't work very well because both players need the ball on offence and they will suck on defense
so if i was coach i will start beverly and then have back up lawson (he need his time to be 100% ready after the rehab)
beverly is not a playmaker and if you put him with the subs he will not be effected,so in the 20 min he will play with harden he will defend the best player and let harden to relax and on offence harden will hold the ball and create offence,after the will put lawson to relax harden and help the subs
he will be the manu/iggy guy for houston

[StephHamann]

no excuses

[pastis]

the southwest getting easier and easier :oldlol: :lol

dallas is going to be destroyed at home every single game against these fvcking stacked teams

honestly, the rockets look perfect right now.
they have their superstar. they have their big man, who can put up 17-19 ppg with 12 -14 reb.
they have imprortant and brilliant role players.
they have the defense.
wow

[dunksby]

Great player, hopefully he stops his ADD bullshit.

[West-Side]

This team will be dramatically better.
Lawson is an outstanding player and he'll make it so much easier for Harden & Howard with his scoring and ball handling skills. He'll be able to help the team with his scoring; set up plays by drawing double teams and give Harden a rest from being the primary play-maker all the time. The fact that they didn't even lose any of the good role players I expected them to lose (in acquiring Ty) is a credit to an outstanding job by that front office.

Ty will help this team so much and I genuinely think Houston has a legit chance of beating anyone now. They got a pretty damn underrated player.

[kshutts1]

Isn't Lawson only 28 or so, too?

I mean... I figured Lawson's trade value was a second rounder. And, considering that the Nuggets also sent a second to Houston, that's basically what it was. Just shocked that no other team beat that "offer".

Great fit for Ty, though. Maybe I should get some DUIs so I could get an improved work place?

[ronnymac]

Isn't Lawson only 28 or so, too?

I mean... I figured Lawson's trade value was a second rounder. And, considering that the Nuggets also sent a second to Houston, that's basically what it was. Just shocked that no other team beat that "offer".

Great fit for Ty, though. Maybe I should get some DUIs so I could get an improved work place?
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[RightToCensor]

This is the first time in a long time where a Rockets fan could say that their team has 0 positional holes.

PG rotation is great
SG rotation is good
SF rotation is really good
PF rotation is really good
C rotation is good

[rezznor]

great great move by morey. thought we had a chance at lawson, but not for this cheap. :banana:


can't wait to see him doing this in a rockets uniform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwXMCxfyOsw

[rezznor]

:oldlol: this clutchfans poster's reaction to the lawson trade


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Got rid of Dorsey and got Lawson. Morey straight up I know you read this site. My chick is like an 8/10 u can hit anytime bro.

[RightToCensor]

CF is undeniably the greatest message board for a NBA franchise

[rezznor]

:oldlol:

[QUOTE]I can picture Morey telling the story. Laughing he pauses to catch his breath..."And then (breathes) I said, 'You gotta take Dorsey too!"

[West-Side]

:oldlol: this clutchfans poster's reaction to the lawson trade

Pure gold. :oldlol:

[rezznor]

http://s30.postimg.org/ownvnh8bl/tylawsondwi.jpg

clutchfans never disappoints

[Done_And_Done]

:oldlol: this clutchfans poster's reaction to the lawson trade

:roll:

[NugzFan]

CF is undeniably the greatest message board for a NBA franchise


It's a nice board but lots of awful posters there.

[GIF REACTION]

Nuggets won't even win 25 games this season. Pathetic franchise.

[UK2K]

:oldlol:
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[ElPigto]

It's a nice board but lots of awful posters there.

Just like any other message forum. We just happen to have a shit load of posters which increases the amount of stupid.

[NugzFan]

Nuggets won't even win 25 games this season. Pathetic franchise.


So does that mean the Kings have been pathetic for years? :confusedshrug:

Frankly we need one more year of tanking. Simmons would look goooooood next to mudiay. 20 wins would be much better than 35.

[UK2K]

Just like any other message forum. We just happen to have a shit load of posters which increases the amount of stupid.

Go look at Rupps Rafters, the Kentucky basketball message board.

When you have 10-15,000 people at any one time.. No doubt their numbers dwarf ISH, and that's one college basketball team.

More posters = more idiots.

[Legends66NBA7]

Just like any other message forum. We just happen to have a shit load of posters which increases the amount of stupid.

Exactly this. Large amount of posters for a particular fan base = lot more moments of asinine posting.

[Fudge]

Never seen this many Nugget fans melting down due to one trade.

:yaohappy:

You idiots gotta chill.

[Charlie Sheen]

I know. I'm just trying to make myself feel better about the trade.
:lol

[rezznor]

[QUOTE]Trouble for the NBA me and @TyLawson3

[rezznor]

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b627/danielalaeinejad/825043_zpscj2giut7.jpg

[Dr Seuss]

great pick up. Mchale looks like he hits the bottle every now and then, so him and lawson should get along swimmingly.

[SwishSquared]

Lawson agreed to make the final season of his contract non-guaranteed now. Only real risk for Houston is missing out on next year's first round pick.

Morey does it again.

[dunksby]

So we got GSW, SAS, OKC, Houston, Grizzlies and LAC out west as title contenders while two of them won't even make the second round? :roll:

[UK2K]

So we got GSW, SAS, OKC, Houston, Grizzlies and LAC out west as title contenders while two of them won't even make the second round? :roll:
I don't think MEM is a title contender.

I wouldn't put them in the same group with the other 5.

I will say that out of of the 6 teams that have a legitimate shot to win it all, five play out west.

[RightToCensor]

Memphis is getting overrated as a title contender.

I can't see OKC making it out of the first round without both Durant and Westbrook healthy.

[HoopologyPhD]

On paper the trade looks pretty good for Houston. However, for a troubled person like Lawson, Houston could be the absolute worst place for him. Do you think Dwight Howard is going to hold anybody accountable for anything or help somebody with maturity issues?

[RightToCensor]

On paper the trade looks pretty good for Houston. However, for a troubled person like Lawson, Houston could be the absolute worst place for him. Do you think Dwight Howard is going to hold anybody accountable for anything or help somebody with maturity issues?
Houston is worse? Colorado is the weed capital of America and even at that Ty was able to separate his off court issues from on the floor. He's played at least 61 games every season he was with the Nuggets at the tune of around 30 MPG.

People are acting like he's the new Michael Beasley. Lawson just got off averaging 9.6 APG last season.

[TheMarkMadsen]

On paper the trade looks pretty good for Houston. However, for a troubled person like Lawson, Houston could be the absolute worst place for him. Do you think Dwight Howard is going to hold anybody accountable for anything or help somebody with maturity issues?

great point

[UK2K]

On paper the trade looks pretty good for Houston. However, for a troubled person like Lawson, Houston could be the absolute worst place for him. Do you think Dwight Howard is going to hold anybody accountable for anything or help somebody with maturity issues?
Harden will. Beverley will. Ariza definitely will. If Terry and Hayes resign, they will. Brewer will. These guys want to win.

I even think having Harrell on the team is great for the locker room, cause you know he'll bring it every day.

I saw a different Harden from two years ago (no defense, bad attitude) to last year (solid defense, playmaking, numerous clutch game winners, leadership).

Harden looks likes he's on a mission. He's been a different player ever since Team USA. I'm 100% confident he got a taste of greatness, and he will be back better than even last year.

[RightToCensor]

Remember when Dwight Howard had "maturity issues" coming into Houston?
Remember when the Rockers lacked locker room leaders?

We have great players, a great general manager, and a Hall of Fame coach that'll fix whatever problem Ty Lawson has on day 1.

[Cocaine80s]

Houston vs Cleveland finals next year, calling it now.


Even though I want the phakkit warriors back so they can get destroyed by a healthy Cavs team, I think Rockets will come out the west

[VIP2000]

Awkward...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKUjBX3UsAA66DA.jpg

[noob cake]

This is the first time in a long time where a Rockets fan could say that their team has 0 positional holes.

PG rotation is great
SG rotation is good
SF rotation is really good
PF rotation is really good
C rotation is good

What must Morey do to make our SG rotation great? Must he sign Klay Thompson as Harden's back up or something?

[UK2K]

One more tidbit: Sources say Lawson has agreed as condition of trade to make the final year of his contract -- 2016-17 -- non-guaranteed.

So... There's literally no risk.

[RightToCensor]

What must Morey do to make our SG rotation great? Must he sign Klay Thompson as Harden's back up or something?
Marcus Thornton has been inconsistent during his career as of late.
McDaniels is still trying to find his way to the rotation.

[Smook A.]

Awkward...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKUjBX3UsAA66DA.jpg
Good thing they're actually cool with eachother

http://i.imgur.com/4XxTVkx.png

This picture was taken almost 2 months ago

[ronnymac]

Houston sorted out a headcase like Josh smith so lets hope we can sort out Ty with his off the court issues.

[oh the horror]

Gotta say, this Houston team will be right up there with other top tier teams in the west.


Western conference is just stupid loaded right now :oldlol:

[spiegel]

The non-gurantee of his final deal ensures this is a 13 million dollar expiring deal either for the rockets cause eitherway even if he don't workout they can use him as a attractive asset(contract wise) for a trade in feb or just let his contract come off the books.

Houston wins eitherway.They will either get a rehabbed and reformed borderline allstar pg or a massive expiring deal with a attractive contract to trade.

[Haymaker]

Houston sorted out a headcase like Josh smith so lets hope we can sort out Ty with his off the court issues.

Josh Smith is not a problematic player. He might be a little wild on the court, taking ill advised shots and whatnot but he's not Ron Artest.

[UK2K]

Josh Smith is not a problematic player. He might be a little wild on the court, taking ill advised shots and whatnot but he's not Ron Artest.

There was a playoff game, I want to say maybe in the LAC series, where he came off the bench and immediately fired up like 5 of 6 shots in the first two minutes he was on the court. It was the most bizarre thing. I almost vomited, then I got that 'this is getting awkward someone is about to say something' feeling in my stomach.

First three games of that series he was 9/31, or 29% (1/9 from 3).

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Good thing they're actually cool with eachother

http://i.imgur.com/4XxTVkx.png

This picture was taken almost 2 months ago

Could Harden look more like a hobo?

[Rocketswin2013]

Josh Smith is not a problematic player. He might be a little wild on the court, taking ill advised shots and whatnot but he's not Ron Artest.
His shot-jacking and stupid offensive decisions took Harden out of rhythm(and the entire offense as a byproduct) several times. He had an underrated role in Harden's disaster GM 5 of the WCF. He wouldn't give Harden the ball after defensive stops and killed Hardens transition game. He'd run up the court, and do something wild, and end up kicking the ball out to Harden 30 FT away from the rim with 10 seconds on the clock against an extremely good, set defense.

That's why Harden killed Thompson and not iggy. It was about before Harden got the ball. Harden would get it 16 ft away from the rim with no dribbles against Thompson. Guy was on an absolute island. With Igoudola, he wouldn't get it anywhere preferable, and it'd be late in the clock. Josh Smith's stupidity played right into this. Harden being too unselfish/passive didn't help, but Smith would try to create something out of nothing and kill possessions.


He was only good against Dallas. Actually think Smith is still a good player overall, but his style of play is not conducive to winning after a while. He started off different in Houston but regressed to old habits.

[Captvic]

Championship or bust. No excuses

[disel]

Could Harden look more like a hobo?
or a creature out of the lord of the rings

[disel]

Championship or bust. No excuses
Ya could say dat about 4 other teams in the west.

[UK2K]

Ya could say dat about 4 other teams in the west.

Really all 5 of the top teams in the West have 'no excuses'.

That's stupid logic.

[SwishSquared]

It's kinda crazy how last summer after Houston missed out on Bosh, so many people (including me) thought Houston's status as a potential contender took a big hit. They're an even better, deeper team now and still have room to improve considering all the young talent on this team (DMo, T. Jones, Capella, Dekker, McDaniels, etc.).

[kshutts1]

It's kinda crazy how last summer after Houston missed out on Bosh, so many people (including me) thought Houston's status as a potential contender took a big hit. They're an even better, deeper team now and still have room to improve considering all the young talent on this team (DMo, T. Jones, Capella, Dekker, McDaniels, etc.).
That's pretty much why I maintain that only a very select few players truly deserve a max, or near-max, contract.

The money can most often, in theory, be used so much more effectively elsewhere.

[UK2K]

It's kinda crazy how last summer after Houston missed out on Bosh, so many people (including me) thought Houston's status as a potential contender took a big hit. They're an even better, deeper team now and still have room to improve considering all the young talent on this team (DMo, T. Jones, Capella, Dekker, McDaniels, etc.).

Right now, Houston's average age is 26.9. The Thunder also have an average age of 26.9.

Warriors - 28.3
Clippers - 28.7
Grizzlies - 29.6
Bulls - 28.4
Cavaliers - 29.4
Spurs - 30.6

Both Houston and OKC will, more than likely, continue to improve over the course of the season, more so than the other title contenders.

[West-Side]

Right now, Houston's average age is 26.9. The Thunder also have an average age of 26.9.

Warriors - 28.3
Clippers - 28.7
Grizzlies - 29.6
Bulls - 28.4
Cavaliers - 29.4
Spurs - 30.6

Both Houston and OKC will, more than likely, continue to improve over the course of the season, more so than the other title contenders.

It's more important to analyze the average age of key (or impact) players only.
I think that tells you more about each teams prowess and potential.

[SwishSquared]

It's more important to analyze the average age of key (or impact) players only.
I think that tells you more about each teams prowess and potential.+1. I was about to ask if UK2K had that info already, as I'm too lazy to find it haha. Would be nice to do a weighted average based on those playing the lions' share of the minutes.

[UK2K]

+1. I was about to ask if UK2K had that info already, as I'm too lazy to find it haha. Would be nice to do a weighted average based on those playing the lions' share of the minutes.

Nobody has played yet.

[SaltyMeatballs]

It's kinda crazy how last summer after Houston missed out on Bosh, so many people (including me) thought Houston's status as a potential contender took a big hit. They're an even better, deeper team now and still have room to improve considering all the young talent on this team (DMo, T. Jones, Capella, Dekker, McDaniels, etc.).
Looking back, im glad Bosh didn't sign with us. He cost way too much and if he was on the team, the Rockets bench wouldn't be as deep.

[longtime lurker]

It's kinda crazy how last summer after Houston missed out on Bosh, so many people (including me) thought Houston's status as a potential contender took a big hit. They're an even better, deeper team now and still have room to improve considering all the young talent on this team (DMo, T. Jones, Capella, Dekker, McDaniels, etc.).

As much as I think Morey's a complete dipshit I have to hand it to him. He knows how to get things done. He makes a lot of big market GM's look underwhelming in comparison. *cough* Lakers and Knicks

[SwishSquared]

Nobody has played yet.I think you took that too literally. Not to be snarky, but based on guys' previous-year(s) minutes and expected rotations, I think you can at least make a pretty decent prediction of that. I just don't want to do the work lol. I was just curious if anybody had some type of info that was posted somewhere.

[SwishSquared]

As much as I think Morey's a complete dipshit I have to hand it to him. He knows how to get things done. He makes a lot of big market GM's look underwhelming in comparison. *cough* Lakers and KnicksWhy do you think that? Overractivity in roster construction? I'm curious b/c I think he's one of the sharpest NBA minds and want to hear an opposing viewpoint.

[UK2K]

I think you took that too literally. Not to be snarky, but based on guys' previous-year(s) minutes and expected rotations, I think you can at least make a pretty decent prediction of that. I just don't want to do the work lol. I was just curious if anybody had some type of info that was posted somewhere.

Oh no I know what you meant, but even on CFans there was a debate on how many minutes Lawson would get. Same thing with LMA on the Spurs, or Lance/PP/Smith on the Clips.

As I've kept up with this sort of thing for a while (the Rockets were one of the 8 youngest teams in the NBA two years ago), I would be willing to bet that of teams who made the playoffs in the West, Houston's starting five (the real starting five, not the one with Jason Terry in it) would be the youngest.

[SwishSquared]

Oh no I know what you meant, but even on CFans there was a debate on how many minutes Lawson would get. Same thing with LMA on the Spurs, or Lance/PP/Smith on the Clips.

As I've kept up with this sort of thing for a while (the Rockets were one of the 8 youngest teams in the NBA two years ago), I would be willing to bet that of teams who made the playoffs in the West, Houston's starting five (the real starting five, not the one with Jason Terry in it) would be the youngest.:cheers: I'll take your word on it since you actually know better than me! I haven't checked out CFans in months but I bet the circle jerk was real when the Lawson trade happened lol. That's a pretty entertaining site in general tho.

I just calculated the average age of Bev/Harden/Ariza/DMo/Dwight/Lawson/Brewer/TJones/Capella, and it's 26.11 years old. I'd guess those 9 players get nearly all of the available PT this year, assuming they're healthy. Extremely young core for how good this team should be. If you weigh in for exact amounts of minutes, it would be slightly higher most likely I bet. I'm not gonna bother doing those other teams but that's telling how nice of a mix of youth/vets this squad has.

It's also kinda crazy how much potential the Rockets still have in their big rotation with DMo/Jones/Capella/Harrell. Really solid young depth.

(Off topic)Why does Morey get hated on exactly? He trades a couple times annually and the roster can have turnover at times, but how many fan bases would take their current GM over him?

[UK2K]

:cheers: I'll take your word on it since you actually know better than me! I haven't checked out CFans in months but I bet the circle jerk was real when the Lawson trade happened lol. That's a pretty entertaining site in general tho.

I just calculated the average age of Bev/Harden/Ariza/DMo/Dwight/Lawson/Brewer/TJones/Capella, and it's 26.11 years old. I'd guess those 9 players get nearly all of the available PT this year, assuming they're healthy. Extremely young core for how good this team should be. If you weigh in for exact amounts of minutes, it would be slightly higher most likely I bet. I'm not gonna bother doing those other teams but that's telling how nice of a mix of youth/vets this squad has.

It's also kinda crazy how much potential the Rockets still have in their big rotation with DMo/Jones/Capella/Harrell. Really solid young depth.

(Off topic)Why does Morey get hated on exactly? He trades a couple times annually and the roster can have turnover at times, but how many fan bases would take their current GM over him?

If it helps paint a more clear picture...

There are only three teams right now with an average age below 25 (Sixers, Bucks, Jazz).

Houston is super young.

But to answer your question, Morey gets hated on because there haven't been many GM's who trade a third of the team every season and consistently win games. He's a trailblazer, very unique, really hasn't been a GM like him to use analytics to tell him how to assemble a team.

Personally, I love Morey (no homo) because I see the vision. I get what analytics can do for you. It may not be the nicest way to do things, treating players simply as trade bait (cause our society is so soft and full of babyback *******), but business is business. I'm fully on board, and have been since I saw the coup he pulled to get Harden (then Dwight, now Lawson).

What did Houston give up for Harden, Dwight, Lawson? Not a single, solid, rotational player.

Let that sink in.

[noob cake]

Rockets will have have at least 12 rotation players on their roster, not counting new rookie Dekker, Harrell and veterans in Terry and Hayes.

They might not be the best team, but Rockets are the deepest team of the last decade.

[SwishSquared]

If it helps paint a more clear picture...

There are only three teams right now with an average age below 25 (Sixers, Bucks, Jazz).

Houston is super young.

But to answer your question, Morey gets hated on because there haven't been many GM's who trade a third of the team every season and consistently win games. He's a trailblazer, very unique, really hasn't been a GM like him to use analytics to tell him how to assemble a team.

Personally, I love Morey (no homo) because I see the vision. I get what analytics can do for you. It may not be the nicest way to do things, treating players simply as trade bait (cause our society is so soft and full of babyback *******), but business is business. I'm fully on board, and have been since I saw the coup he pulled to get Harden (then Dwight, now Lawson).

What did Houston give up for Harden, Dwight, Lawson? Not a single, solid, rotational player.

Let that sink in.Yeah I'm not arguing or betting against Houston's youth- I just find it fascinating the amount of young talent for a team that has legit title aspirations now. It's just interesting from a roster construction standpoint to have this many good players but still have that much youth and tradeable parts.

I just think the hate is irrational if the guy is continually trying to win and his moves work out in terms of improving the roster annually. He's given up little valuable picks/players and has a true contender. That's kinda ideal lol in that he didn't ever need to tank and he wasn't dealt a great hand with the Yao/T-Mac injuries. He was saved from himself with that vetoed CP3 trade, though (although it's hard to predict how past few years play out I guess if that deal stood). It's stupid to hate on a guy if the biggest knock on him is his rosters turnover a bunch.

I'm a proponent of analytics, always have been, so I have always loved his approach. I guess it can seem that he treats players too much like "blocks" instead of people, but I can't recall a player bad-mouth him after leaving.

[Fudge]

lol

3 minutes tonight, no stats

last game? 17 minutes, 0 points, 4 turnovers, 2 rebs, 2 asts

the fuqq happened?

[brooks_thompson]

(Off topic)Why does Morey get hated on exactly?

He hasn't built a team, he's only gathered materials. All architecture, no engineering or construction.

[Phantom_Blue]

Harden: I'm looking for ball handling help.

Lawson: What's up James, I'm here, let's be friends.

Harden: Uhhh, naw I think I'll just do all the ball handling myself.

Lawson: But I've been running teams that have went to the playoffs for years, what am I supposed to do now?

Harden: Uhhh, I don't know, ask that fat white dude. I guess you can stand around the three point line and I might pass it to you with 3 seconds left if I can't get a good shot.


#Analytics

[StephHamann]

http://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/spring2014/images/large-images/Morey%20formula_L.jpg

[bobopenguin]

My dick is so ****ing hard right now, god dammit. :dancin

smook A, is ur d*ck still hard?

[bobopenguin]

You clearly know nothing bout hoops. Ty is a borderline all star level pg. If he played in the East he could definitely have a chance of making the All-Star team. He is bawse penetrator, dimer and scorer.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnwltqhA7R1qzj7lm.png

[Terahite]

http://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/spring2014/images/large-images/Morey%20formula_L.jpg

This ugly white boy thinks he's Russell Crowe in that Beautiful Brain movie :facepalm

[dunksby]

This ugly white boy thinks he's Russell Crowe in that Beautiful Brain movie :facepalm
:oldlol:

[Euroleague]

As I and many other Euroleague fans have said here the last few years, Ty Lawson was EASILY the worst rotation point guard in the Euroleague. He was so bad when he was playing in Zalgiris, it was actually painful to even watch it.

The ONLY reason this complete joke of a scrub was ever considered a good player is because under NBA rules and reffing you can't play defense against small guards.

His actual basketball skill and ability is almost zero.

In a set offense, he was the most useless and worst point guard I have ever seen play in Euroleague, other than Ricky Rubio.

And his speed was always hugely exaggerated, because he's only fast in the open court. He's never actually been able to beat anyone off the dribble in the half court, unless the refs were allowing zero defense to be played.

His first step has always been almost non-existent.

The fact that Daryl "The Moron" Morey thought this guy was a good selection for the Rockets, is more proof that he is the most overrated general manager in North American professional team sports history.

[Embers]

He is 10KG overweight for mine at present. If I was Rockets id banish him from the squad till he drops the weight

[MiseryCityTexas]

I wished the Rockets would've signed Rondo or Greg Monroe instead.

[MiseryCityTexas]

We were calling them championship contenders at first right after this signing.

[Terahite]

As I and many other Euroleague fans have said here the last few years, Ty Lawson was EASILY the worst rotation point guard in the Euroleague. He was so bad when he was playing in Zalgiris, it was actually painful to even watch it.

The ONLY reason this complete joke of a scrub was ever considered a good player is because under NBA rules and reffing you can't play defense against small guards.

His actual basketball skill and ability is almost zero.

In a set offense, he was the most useless and worst point guard I have ever seen play in Euroleague, other than Ricky Rubio.

And his speed was always hugely exaggerated, because he's only fast in the open court. He's never actually been able to beat anyone off the dribble in the half court, unless the refs were allowing zero defense to be played.

His first step has always been almost non-existent.

The fact that Daryl "The Moron" Morey thought this guy was a good selection for the Rockets, is more proof that he is the most overrated general manager in North American professional team sports history.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/DuragBack/GIFS/Girls/Y1QXaRu_zps192c25b9.gif

[AnaheimLakers24]

Euroleague constantly slaying the nbgay

[FKAri]

Euroleague owning the NBA only fans. Euroleague the GOAT league. Vaseline SpansAnus would make Curry look like dogshit :applause:

[StephHamann]

As I and many other Euroleague fans have said here the last few years, Ty Lawson was EASILY the worst rotation point guard in the Euroleague. He was so bad when he was playing in Zalgiris, it was actually painful to even watch it.

The ONLY reason this complete joke of a scrub was ever considered a good player is because under NBA rules and reffing you can't play defense against small guards.

His actual basketball skill and ability is almost zero.

In a set offense, he was the most useless and worst point guard I have ever seen play in Euroleague, other than Ricky Rubio.

And his speed was always hugely exaggerated, because he's only fast in the open court. He's never actually been able to beat anyone off the dribble in the half court, unless the refs were allowing zero defense to be played.

His first step has always been almost non-existent.

The fact that Daryl "The Moron" Morey thought this guy was a good selection for the Rockets, is more proof that he is the most overrated general manager in North American professional team sports history.

https://media.giphy.com/media/NMxdKb1QMBG12/giphy.gif

[JohnFreeman]

Euroleague low key right about everything

meme

[chocolatethunder]

If it helps paint a more clear picture...

There are only three teams right now with an average age below 25 (Sixers, Bucks, Jazz).

Houston is super young.

But to answer your question, Morey gets hated on because there haven't been many GM's who trade a third of the team every season and consistently win games. He's a trailblazer, very unique, really hasn't been a GM like him to use analytics to tell him how to assemble a team.

Personally, I love Morey (no homo) because I see the vision. I get what analytics can do for you. It may not be the nicest way to do things, treating players simply as trade bait (cause our society is so soft and full of babyback *******), but business is business. I'm fully on board, and have been since I saw the coup he pulled to get Harden (then Dwight, now Lawson).

What did Houston give up for Harden, Dwight, Lawson? Not a single, solid, rotational player.

Let that sink in.

Houston is trash. Howard is a shell of his former self(wasn't that good to begin with), Lawson is the shitty player he's always been and Harden is a foul drawing chucker who plays no D. Let that sink in.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Even if Ty played like he did in Denver, Rockets still aren't better than the current Spurs. It's questionable if they're even better than the Mavericks this season.

[MiseryCityTexas]

He's not that good.

Not like this move changes anything.


Not just Euroleague, this guy predicted what is going on today also. He said this waaaaaaay back in July.

[STATUTORY]

let that sink in

:roll: :roll: