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imnew09
07-20-2015, 07:21 PM
Kareem
Shaq
Magic
Kobe
Throw in Smush Parker


Would destroy all time NBA.


LakersNation da Best

TheMarkMadsen
07-20-2015, 07:24 PM
he picked the bulls because they would have the GOAT.. no other team/player combination even deserves a mention

rmt
07-20-2015, 07:24 PM
Kareem
Shaq
Magic
Kobe
Throw in Smush Parker


Would destroy all time NBA.


LakersNation da Best

not destroy - it'd be a battle

Hakeem
Duncan
Lebron/Bird
MJ
Stockton

mehyaM24
07-20-2015, 07:26 PM
he picked the bulls because they would have the GOAT.. no other team/player combination even deserves a mention
the bulls don't have kareem or russell....heck they don't have peak shaq himself, so what exactly are you talking about here??

Akrazotile
07-20-2015, 07:45 PM
he picked the bulls because they would have the GOAT.. no other team/player combination even deserves a mention


Heat would have:

Shaq
Zo
Lebron
Wade
Payton


Lakers are obviously by far the deepest... But for just a 5 on 5?

Spurs have Robinson, Duncan, Rodman, Gervin, Manu.


There are teams that could go 5 on 5 with the Lakers. Just as long as there's no substitutions :lol

TheMarkMadsen
07-20-2015, 07:48 PM
Heat would have:

Shaq
Zo
Lebron
Wade
Payton


Lakers are obviously by far the deepest... But for just a 5 on 5?

Spurs have Robinson, Duncan, Rodman, Gervin, Manu.


There are teams that could go 5 on 5 with the Lakers. Just as long as there's no substitutions :lol

Well if you go by years which those players actually played for the team (ex: HEAT get 06 Payton, not 96 Pippen) then the Lakers would easily be the best

but yeah when you consider the Lakers depth it's no contest, Wilt, West, Baylor, Worthy etc etc

kennethgriffin
07-20-2015, 07:52 PM
PG magic johnson
SG Kobe bryant
SF Elgin Baylor
PF Kareem Abdul Jabbar
C Shaquille Oneal

Bench:

Jerry west
Gail goodrich
Wilt chamberlain
Bob mcadoo
James worthy
George mikan
Jamaal wilkes



Vs


Pg isiah thomas
Sg michael jordan
Sf larry bird
Pf tim duncan
C bill russell


Bench

Oscar robertson
Hakeem olajuwon
Lebron james
Julius erving
Moses malone
John stockton
Charles barkley





Lakers could theoretically win this

ShawkFactory
07-20-2015, 07:52 PM
Celtics all time:
KC jones/DJ
Sam Jones
Bird/Hondo
McHale
Russell/Parish

They would have a real shot to beat that Lakers squad, especially if we're considering Lakers Kareem and not peak Kareem. The chemistry would be undoubtably better.

kennethgriffin
07-20-2015, 07:56 PM
Celtics all time:
KC jones/DJ
Sam Jones
Bird/Hondo
McHale
Russell/Parish

They would have a real shot to beat that Lakers squad, especially if we're considering Lakers Kareem and not peak Kareem. The chemistry would be undoubtably better.


Celtics were a flair up

They have like 4 legit titles from the modern era

Lakers have 10

ImKobe
07-20-2015, 08:01 PM
Celtics all time:
KC jones/DJ
Sam Jones
Bird/Hondo
McHale
Russell/Parish

They would have a real shot to beat that Lakers squad, especially if we're considering Lakers Kareem and not peak Kareem. The chemistry would be undoubtably better.

http://www.geeksandcleats.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nick-young-confused-face.png

JohnnySic
07-20-2015, 08:01 PM
Celtics:

Cousy
Havlicek
Bird
Garnett
Russell

McHale
Pierce
Sam Jones
Parish
Cowens
DJ
Reggie Lewis :(

Waaayyyy better chemistry than that bloated Lakers unit. Wilt/Shaq/Kareem would be at each other's throats and Kobe would want to make it his team and would not concede to anyone; Magic would probably chuck the ball off his head.

ShawkFactory
07-20-2015, 08:03 PM
http://www.geeksandcleats.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nick-young-confused-face.png
Why not? They'd have a shot. Especially if you're considering smush Parker your actual 5th man

kennethgriffin
07-20-2015, 08:04 PM
Celtics:

Cousy
Havlicek
Bird
Garnett
Russell

McHale
Pierce
Sam Jones
Parish
Cowens
DJ
Reggie Lewis :(

Waaayyyy better chemistry than that bloated Lakers unit. Wilt/Shaq/Kareem would be at each other's throats and Kobe would want to make it his team and would not concede to anyone; Magic would probably chuck the ball off his head.



Chemistry? The lakers were all known for playing great with other great players


Kobe/shaq complimented each others games perfectly.. west/goodrich/wilt blended well... magic/wilkes/worthy/kareem blended better than anyone

Da **** are you on? Lol

tpols
07-20-2015, 08:04 PM
Heat would have:

Shaq
Zo
Lebron
Wade
Payton


Lakers are obviously by far the deepest... But for just a 5 on 5?

Spurs have Robinson, Duncan, Rodman, Gervin, Manu.


There are teams that could go 5 on 5 with the Lakers. Just as long as there's no substitutions :lol


What about the knicks ?

Ewing
Reed
King
Spree
Frazier


:eek:

SHAQisGOAT
07-20-2015, 08:05 PM
Celtics all time:
KC jones/DJ
Sam Jones
Bird/Hondo
McHale
Russell/Parish

They would have a real shot to beat that Lakers squad, especially if we're considering Lakers Kareem and not peak Kareem. The chemistry would be undoubtably better.

I'd put...

Cousy / Jo Jo / DJ
Hondo / Sam Jones / Ray-Ray
Bird / Pierce / Lewis
McHale / KG / Walton
Russell / Cowens / Parish

With Auerbach coaching.

You're right, chemistry (on/off the court) and team-work would've been most likely unreal - definitely better than the Lakers, who could've had some issues there.

Kareem's peak as an overall player was most likely in 1977 though, as Laker.

Cocaine80s
07-20-2015, 08:07 PM
Heat

Payton/Hardaway
Wade
Lebron
Mourning
Shaq

kennethgriffin
07-20-2015, 08:11 PM
Heat

Payton/Hardaway
Wade
Lebron
Mourning
Shaq


Lol payton

Akrazotile
07-20-2015, 09:34 PM
Lol payton


He played for them and won a title. So if youre counting everyone who was with a franchise then Payton is on there. And in a hypothetical match we use prime Payton. FACT. :pimp:

Akrazotile
07-20-2015, 09:36 PM
Heat

Payton/Hardaway
Wade
Lebron
Mourning
Shaq


And they got Glen Rice comin off the bench. Actually for chemistry purposes he probably starts with Bran and Shaq and Wade plays sixth man :eek:

Not a super deep all-time squad but that 7 man rotation is a PROBLEM.

Rob123
07-20-2015, 10:42 PM
The Spurs have DROB, Duncan, Gervin, Manu, and Parker that ain't no cake walk.

triangleoffense
07-20-2015, 10:45 PM
He played for them and won a title. So if youre counting everyone who was with a franchise then Payton is on there. And in a hypothetical match we use prime Payton. FACT. :pimp:
If thats the rules then Lakers definitely win vs all NBA... prime wilt, shaq, kareem, magic, kobe.

gg

jayfan
07-20-2015, 10:48 PM
Detroit would be competitive.

Bing
Lanier
Isiah
Dumars
Dantley
Aguire
Rodman
Grant Hill
B. Wallace
R. Wallace
Billups
Rip/Laimbeer

kennethgriffin
07-20-2015, 10:50 PM
He played for them and won a title. So if youre counting everyone who was with a franchise then Payton is on there. And in a hypothetical match we use prime Payton. FACT. :pimp:


wait lol... nevermind... ok you got it


PG magic johnson
SG Kobe bryant
SF Elgin Baylor
PF Kareem Abdul Jabbar replaced with prime kareem abdule jabbar
C Shaquille Oneal

Bench:

Jerry west
Gail goodrich
Wilt chamberlain replaced with prime Wilt Chamberlain
Bob mcadoo replaced with prime bob mcadoo
James worthy
George mikan
Jamaal wilkes
add prime steve nash
add prime gary payton
add prime mitch richmond
add prime karl malone
add prime dwight howard

bdreason
07-20-2015, 10:52 PM
All-Time NBA would win because you can choose more complimentary players.




Stockton
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Hakeem


This team wins based on defense alone.

tpols
07-20-2015, 11:04 PM
All-Time NBA would win because you can choose more complimentary players.




Stockton
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Hakeem


This team wins based on defense alone.

Who guards Magic?

rmt
07-20-2015, 11:08 PM
Who guards Magic?

So who's the Lakers' SF?

SouBeachTalents
07-20-2015, 11:16 PM
76ers would be legit

PG: Iverson
SG: Greer
SF: Dr. J
PF: Barkley
C: Wilt

With Moses available as well

Akrazotile
07-20-2015, 11:16 PM
All-Time NBA would win because you can choose more complimentary players.




Stockton
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Hakeem


This team wins based on defense alone.

Id honestly put Dirk on that team over Hakeem and switch Bird with Lebron. Keeps spacing by having a shooter but which Laker big is gonna guard Dirk out at the three point line? And it doesnt really matter whether Hakeem or Dirk guards Alcindor in the post, hes gonna do his thing regardless. With Bran you get more perimter D than Bird.


Stockton
Jordan
Lebron
Dirk
Duncan


Honestly tho the problem is prime Shaq. Whoever has him is winning more often than not.

tpols
07-20-2015, 11:22 PM
So who's the Lakers' SF?

James Worth probably.. possibly cooper depending on matchup for his increased defense plus spacing.

rmt
07-20-2015, 11:22 PM
Id honestly put Dirk on that team over Hakeem and switch Bird with Lebron. Keeps spacing by having a shooter but which Laker big is gonna guard Dirk out at the three point line? And it doesnt really matter whether Hakeem or Dirk guards Alcindor in the post, hes gonna do his thing regardless. With Bran you get more perimter D than Bird.


Stockton
Jordan
Lebron
Dirk
Duncan


Honestly tho the problem is prime Shaq. Whoever has him is winning more often than not.

This team is too "modern" for traditional big-men teams. Any combo of Shaq/KAJ/Wilt is gonna kill them. I prefer Hakeem for defense. Lebron can guard Magic. Who is Lakers' SF? Can Stockton be hidden on him?

TheMilkyBarKid
07-20-2015, 11:27 PM
Celtics were a flair up

They have like 4 legit titles from the modern era

Lakers have 10
How do you like second place?

Akrazotile
07-20-2015, 11:29 PM
This team is too "modern" for traditional big-men teams. Any combo of Shaq/KAJ/Wilt is gonna kill them. I prefer Hakeem for defense. Lebron can guard Magic. Who is Lakers' SF? Can Stockton be hidden on him?


Well I'm assuming the game is played in a modern setting. Funny thing is if this were a real contest you had to put money on, Laker fans would be fools to put Kobe on the team. Youd have four guys trying to play as a team and Kobe trying to chuck to prove hes the alpha. He can get away with that on rosters where his team has a clear talent advantage like on his nba 'chip teams, but against another all-time great team you cant do that garbage. If you want to win you have to play as a high IQ team. If you have Magic, Kareem, and Shaq youre much better sticking Logo at 2 guard who will play smart team ball and space the floor.

Anyway, like I said I personally dont think the difference between who guards Kareem comoensates for Dirk being able to stretch out to the three point line. Hakeem may be better in a vaccuum but Dirk would go better with Duncan IMO. Also Stockton plays bigger than his size defensively. With him, MJ and Bran on the wings, perimeter defense is absolutely air tight. Kobe and Magic perimeter D? Barely better than an average nba team perimeter.

kennethgriffin
07-20-2015, 11:32 PM
How do you like second place?


if russells celtic titles count as full for team comparisons ...then why dont they count as full for player comparisons

everyone ranks russells 11 slightly behind jordan...so they really count as 5 or 5.5 tops

5.5 is half of 11

so the celtics 13 non modern nba titles really count as 6.5

6.5 + 4 = 10.5


lakers have 10 modern day titles and 6 that get cut in half

10 + 3 = 13



13 > 10.5

tpols
07-20-2015, 11:37 PM
Well I'm assuming the game is played in a modern setting. Funny thing is if this were a real contest you had to put money on, Laker fans would be fools to put Kobe on the team. Youd have four guys trying to play as a team and Kobe trying to chuck to prove hes the alpha. He can get away with that on rosters where his team has a clear talent advantage like on his nba 'chip teams, but against another all-time great team you cant do that garbage. If you want to win you have to play as a high IQ team. If you have Magic, Kareem, and Shaq youre much better sticking Logo at 2 guard who will play smart team ball and space the floor.

Anyway, like I said I personally dont think the difference between who guards Kareem comoensates for Dirk being able to stretch out to the three point line. Hakeem may be better in a vaccuum but Dirk would go better with Duncan IMO. Also Stockton plays bigger than his size defensively. With him, MJ and Bran on the wings, perimeter defense is absolutely air tight. Kobe and Magic perimeter D? Barely better than an average nba team perimeter.

I don't think that would be the case.. see Kobe in 08 Olympics. He may do that shit at the end of a close game, but in a surrounded by all stars situation he knows how to share. In a lose 3 straight fmvps and get ridiculed as a sidekick situation sure, envy might spark, but the two situations are not equivalent.


Dirk and Duncan would get the shit kicked out of them by KAJ/Shaq on the boards.. its just a massive size advantage. I actually think there would be a higher chance of a rift between the two LA centers though as both are used to catching the ball in very similar spots in similar roles as post scorers/passers and both are the jealous type.. so dirk/Duncan might have a significant chemistry advantage.

bdreason
07-20-2015, 11:42 PM
Who guards Magic?


Jordan on Magic and Stockton on Kobe.

Kobe will think he has a mismatch and will chuck all game.

tpols
07-20-2015, 11:46 PM
Jordan on Magic and Stockton on Kobe.

Kobe will think he has a mismatch and will chuck all game.

I mean would he not just work him in the post.. ?


Is this 04 Kobe and did Stockton just grow a 7 foot wingspan?:lol

Akrazotile
07-20-2015, 11:51 PM
I mean would he not just work him in the post.. ?


Is this 04 Kobe and did Stockton just grow a 7 foot wingspan?:lol


Q: And when Lebron comes over to double, who is spacing the floor for the kickout. Magic, Kareem, Shaq, or Wilt?



A: Doesnt matter cause Kobe's shooting anyway :lol

ShawkFactory
07-20-2015, 11:53 PM
if russells celtic titles count as full for team comparisons ...then why dont they count as full for player comparisons

everyone ranks russells 11 slightly behind jordan...so they really count as 5 or 5.5 tops

5.5 is half of 11

so the celtics 13 non modern nba titles really count as 6.5

6.5 + 4 = 10.5


lakers have 10 modern day titles and 6 that get cut in half

10 + 3 = 13



13 > 10.5
Why do you assume people rank Russell and Jordan based on rings? Russell has 11. Jordan has 6. Everyone recognizes this.

Nobody has ever tried to say that Russell's 11 rings are worth 5.5. Retarded.

tpols
07-20-2015, 11:55 PM
Q: And when Lebron comes over to double, who is spacing the floor for the kickout. Magic, Kareem, Shaq, or Wilt?



A: Doesnt matter cause Kobe's shooting anyway :lol

:roll:










:rolleyes:

CakeorDeath
07-21-2015, 12:14 AM
Stockton mad underrated on this board as usual. People saying where are you going to hide Stockton? Better question: who on that all time Lakers squad is going to stop Stockton?

1988 Lakers/Jazz playoff series, eventually won by the Lakers 4-3. Stockton averaged 19.3 pts and 16.4 assists per game, along with 4 steals. Who was guarding him? A 28 year old Magic Johnson.

16.4 assists with his second best target, after Malone, being Thurl Bailey. Imagine what he'd do with MJ, Lebron, and Duncan as targets in addition to Malone.

Prime Stockton was a MONSTER.

Without even going too far back:

Stockton/Kidd/Nash
MJ/Drexler/Wade
LeBron/Bird/Pippen
Malone/Barkley/Dirk
Duncan/Hakeem/Robinson

Beats anything the Lakers can put together

HOoopCityJones
07-21-2015, 08:14 AM
Fucc outta here, Stockton ain't stopping Kobe.

kennethgriffin
07-21-2015, 08:30 AM
Why do you assume people rank Russell and Jordan based on rings? Russell has 11. Jordan has 6. Everyone recognizes this.

Nobody has ever tried to say that Russell's 11 rings are worth 5.5. Retarded.


you're an idiot

if people gave russells 11 rings the same weight as 11 rings had they been won in the 80's,90's,00's

then he'd be far and away the GOAT and it wouldnt even be close

people discount the rings from his era

thats the most widely accepted fact that any real ball fan should know by now. if you deny it then you must either be a celtic fan or believe russell IS far and away GOAT

if you have mike first and think russells 11 are full value.... then you must thing russell wasnt that great. he must have been a borderline guy compared to mike



but...


the guy was a 5 time MVP
the guy was the best defensive player in nba history
the guy was arguably the best rebounder in nba history
the guy was arguably the best teammate in nba history
the guy was arguably the best leader in nba history

during the finals he averaged Russell - 11 titles (15ppg/25rpg/5bpg*/5apg/5spg* ) *allegedly

he coached AND played during 2 of his nba titles.





he was a great player... if a great player has a legit 11 rings as leader .. the guy is automatically the GOAT



unless ofcourse you discount the era, league at the time





which most do



cause its logical




you f*cking idiot

Soundwave
07-21-2015, 09:27 AM
It's pretty easy to nullify Magic at PG ... simply put LeBron (or even Pippen) there.


PG - LeBron
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Duncan
C - Hakeem

2nd Unit

C - Russell
PF - Karl Malone
SF - Pippen
SG - DWade
PG - Isiah or Stockton

Rocketswin2013
07-21-2015, 09:31 AM
It's pretty easy to nullify Magic at PG ... simply put LeBron (or even Pippen) there.


PG - LeBron
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Duncan
C - Hakeem

2nd Unit

C - Russell
PF - Karl Malone
SF - Pippen
SG - DWade
PG - Isiah or Stockton
I'd replace Malone with Dirk, but otherwise good roster. They'd beat LA IMO.

snipes12
07-21-2015, 09:38 AM
I pick the sixers

Wilt
Malone
Dr j
Iverson
Cheeks

Bench

Barkley
Mutombo
Hal greer
Bobby jones
matt freaking geiger

snipes12
07-21-2015, 09:40 AM
Magic would be nice though

Shaq
Howard
Grant hill
Mcgrady
Penny

Marchesk
07-21-2015, 10:07 AM
Bucks in their primes would be nice:

Oscar
Moncrief
Allen
Lanier
Kareem

Bring some guys like Cummings and Ellis off the bench.