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Lebron23
07-23-2015, 12:48 PM
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Anfernee Hardaway crashed the NBA party in the mid-1990s and was going to be part of the literal changing of the guard in the NBA. In Hardaway there was a point guard with size (6-foot-7), speed and athleticism but also the control to run the point. He was not quite Magic Johnson as a point guard, but he was unquestionably one of the best players in the NBA for a solid four or five year stretch.

Then, his body betrayed him. Or maybe the basketball culture of the 1990s and his era betrayed him.

Whatever it was, knee and ankle injuries plagued Hardaway and zapped him of his athleticism in those post-Shaquille O'Neal years. He was never the same player and he never returned to his All Star form.

What happened to Hardaway? That is hard to tell if you are not a doctor. I certainly am not. But Dr. James Andrews is.

Dr. Andrews is probably the foremost sports surgeon in the world, having performed ACL surgeries on several athletes and is the go-to guy for sports injuries. He was the one who performed the ACL surgery on Adrian Peterson that had Peterson back on the field in less than a year.

So what did he think about Hardaway's injury and whether modern science could help? He answered that "what if" for Mike Philbrick of Grantland:

"It was very difficult to explain what was wrong with Penny Hardaway. He was a great guy, a competitive guy, but he had an articular cartilage injury, an injury to the smooth lining of the joint that allows the gliding of the joint. Back then we didn't really have MRIs to make the diagnosis. Today? Now you would see that on an MRI. It's still a nemesis and the hardest thing in treatment because the body doesn't have a way to regenerate it. Mother Nature can't just fix that. That's the next step, the biologics, where we determine how to jump-start the healing process and let the body, not the procedure, do the work."

One (uneducated person like me) could easily say that Hardaway would have been perfectly fine if his injuries had happened a year or two later when advances in medical science available to athletes would have helped him prolong his career. Microfracture surgery might have helped alleviate some of the pain Hardaway described he played through (Philbrick links to this SLAM article where Hardaway discusses his injury). Maybe it would not.

It seemed that Hardaway was doomed from the beginning because of "Mother Nature."

That does not take away from what Hardaway did on the floor. He averaged 20.9 points and 7.2 assists per game in Orlando's fabled 1995 season and 21.7 points and 7.1 assists the following year. He was a four-time NBA All Star (all with the Magic) and a two-time All-NBA First Team selection, all before he turned 27.

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HOoopCityJones
07-23-2015, 12:58 PM
Penny and Tmac are the Top of my list when it comes to what could have been.

HylianNightmare
07-23-2015, 01:07 PM
Glad I got to watch those years of prime and even post prime penny

jlip
07-23-2015, 01:31 PM
I watched Penny from high school to the end of his pro career. Before the Grizzlies moved to Memphis he was the biggest thing in sports here. I'm wondering if being shot in the foot as a teenager didn't aggravate his other injuries.

tmacattack33
07-23-2015, 01:41 PM
Penny's peak is top 30 of all-time. Maybe top 25.

And he probably would have improved upon it if he was never injured.

He beat out Payton and Stockton for First Team NBA both of his peak years.

And he was third in MVP voting behind MJ and Malone (I believe) in the year that Shaq was injured in Orlando. And it was a stacked era... with MJ, Hakeem, Malone, etc. But Penny was playing just as good as those guys and better than some of them.

Fire Colangelo
07-23-2015, 02:30 PM
Penny's peak is top 30 of all-time. Maybe top 25.

And he probably would have improved upon it if he was never injured.

He beat out Payton and Stockton for First Team NBA both of his peak years.

And he was third in MVP voting behind MJ and Malone (I believe) in the year that Shaq was injured in Orlando. And it was a stacked era... with MJ, Hakeem, Malone, etc. But Penny was playing just as good as those guys and better than some of them.

22/7/4 is top 30 all time....? Wade averaged 22/5/5 in a declining year.

I mean dude was obviously better than 2012 Wade but God he gets so overrated. He had a good 2 year run along with Shaq, that's pretty much it.

JohnnySic
07-23-2015, 02:35 PM
Yup, Penny gets overrated big time. He wasn't even as good as Grant Hill, who hardly gets talked about.

Fire Colangelo
07-23-2015, 02:39 PM
Yup, Penny gets overrated big time. He wasn't even as good as Grant Hill, who hardly gets talked about.

Agreed.

I think it's because he ended up having a nice career in Phoenix until he was 40 that people forget how much of a beast Grant Hill was earlier on.

MEB2kDeez
07-23-2015, 02:40 PM
22/7/4 is top 30 all time....? Wade averaged 22/5/5 in a declining year.

I mean dude was obviously better than 2012 Wade but God he gets so overrated. He had a good 2 year run along with Shaq, that's pretty much it.
This lol. No way that peak is top 30.

kamil
07-23-2015, 02:41 PM
Penny and Tmac are the Top of my list when it comes to what could have been.

Grant Hill?

Levity
07-23-2015, 02:44 PM
The penny 3's were pretty sweet back in the day. had all other 5th graders jealous.

K Xerxes
07-23-2015, 02:45 PM
22/7/4 is top 30 all time....? Wade averaged 22/5/5 in a declining year.

I mean dude was obviously better than 2012 Wade but God he gets so overrated. He had a good 2 year run along with Shaq, that's pretty much it.

Interestingly, I'm pretty sure from his time playing with both, Shaq thinks Penny was a better player than Wade.

Fire Colangelo
07-23-2015, 02:53 PM
Interestingly, I'm pretty sure from his time playing with both, Shaq thinks Penny was a better player than Wade.

Idk, hard to take what Shaq says seriously most of the time. He said similar stuff about Wade compared to Kobe when he was on the Heat as well. Now he's saying that he regrets leaving Orlando for LA when LA got him 3 titles.

Pretty sure I read somewhere he wants Orlando to retire his jersey too lol

KG215
07-23-2015, 03:03 PM
Penny's peak is top 30 of all-time. Maybe top 25.

Penny was really, really good and on the rise to becoming an all-time great before his injuries, but no. Just...no.

WorldWarriors
07-23-2015, 03:11 PM
Shame for Penny. That young Orlando team was brimming with confidence. "Why not us? Why not now?"

kshutts1
07-23-2015, 03:13 PM
One of my favorite, and under-recognized, what-if is... what if Tim Thomas had a basketball brain?

The size, shot, athleticism... pretty much everything you could want. He should have been more like a Durant-type player... if he had a bbiq.

Maybe I've over-rating his god-given abilities, but that's just my memory of him.

WorldWarriors
07-23-2015, 03:18 PM
One of my favorite, and under-recognized, what-if is... what if Tim Thomas had a basketball brain?

The size, shot, athleticism... pretty much everything you could want. He should have been more like a Durant-type player... if he had a bbiq.

Maybe I've over-rating his god-given abilities, but that's just my memory of him.

LMAO I forgot all about that dude.

Vancouver-Grizz
07-23-2015, 05:38 PM
22/7/4 is top 30 all time....? Wade averaged 22/5/5 in a declining year.

I mean dude was obviously better than 2012 Wade but God he gets so overrated. He had a good 2 year run along with Shaq, that's pretty much it.


Have you watched Penny play? The dude's BBall IQ was crazy and his ability to control offense was insane. His court vision had people in AWE all the time. He was also very versatile in defense. I still remember when he never shy away from guarding post up big men like Robinson/Ewing/Hakeem and used his quickness to steal balls or get them off balance.

Penny prime years over WADE any day.

Fire Colangelo
07-23-2015, 05:51 PM
Have you watched Penny play? The dude's BBall IQ was crazy and his ability to control offense was insane. His court vision had people in AWE all the time. He was also very versatile in defense. I still remember when he never shy away from guarding post up big men like Robinson/Ewing/Hakeem and used his quickness to steal balls or get them off balance.

Penny prime years over WADE any day.

And Wade didn't have crazy BBall IQ and the ability to control an offense? Dude won FMVP in his 3rd year averaging 35/8/4 FFS.

Wade was also very versatile on defense. Dude's best shot blocking guard in the history of the league, and a good portion of his blocks came against big men like Dwight Howard/Pau Gasol/etc.

This is what I mean when I say Penny's so overrated. He can have the most amazing court vision, and offensive abilities in the world but at the end of the day, he averaged 22/7/4. Which is great, but not all time great.

Like another poster said, he was on the rise and had he stayed injury free he might've ended up as one of the all time greats. But a season of 22/7/4 simply doesn't put him up there.

JohnnySic
07-23-2015, 07:32 PM
Peak Wade > peak Penny, pretty easily. No fancy stats needed, just the eye test will do.

Papaya Petee
07-23-2015, 07:39 PM
Have you watched Penny play? The dude's BBall IQ was crazy and his ability to control offense was insane. His court vision had people in AWE all the time. He was also very versatile in defense. I still remember when he never shy away from guarding post up big men like Robinson/Ewing/Hakeem and used his quickness to steal balls or get them off balance.

Penny prime years over WADE any day.

:roll: :wtf: :lol

Wades 2nd year in the league >>> Prime Penny

2005,2006,2007,2009,2010,2011 Wade >>> Prime Penny
2012 and 2013 Regular season Wade = Prime Penny

Penny was a very good player, but not even in the same sentence as Wade.