Animal Draft 1 - Lottery Draft

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8 Posters

3 Judges

3 Rounds

24 Animals

Teams of 3

1 Championship cup

It's on.

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I now need 8 posters to step up to the challenge. Who's brave enough to enter the Animal Face Off Tournament? Please put your name in, so I can begin the lottery draft to determine draft positions. There are 3 rounds of the draft, each poster has 3 picks.

OFFICIAL Draft Order
1-arkain
2-ArbitraryWater
3-Blackfrankwhite
4-Chief Keef
5-iTare
6-jaydacris
7-ISHGoat
8-Kingbeasley

JUDGES
1. zoom17
2. That_Admiral
3. kNIOKAS
4. Suguru101



RULES/STIPULATIONS/REGULATIONS

-Each contestant has 4 draft picks
-He must pick 1 Super-Heavyweight, 1 Heavyweight and 1 Light-Heavyweight.
He must also pick one reserve from ANY weight class.
Animals picked must be alive today
-Contestants will fight each other 3 v 3
-A contestant MUST have all 3 weight classes in a fight
-The reserve can be from any weight class and it's purpose is stylistic match ups....
Example: If the fight is in a forest, one might swap their grizzly bear for their
Gorilla reserve because it is better suited to fighting in that environment
-There will be 3 rounds of matchups. The first round there are 4 fights with 8 contestants.
The 2nd round is 2 fights with 4 contestants. Then the 3rd and final round, the last two
standing fight it off to crown the winner
-The round 1 and 2 matchups will be completely random
-The environments in each matchup will be completely random
-The 3 judges will give their interpretation on the fight, and who they think is the winner.
3 judges so whoever has the majority vote is deemed winner

The Environments:
African Savanna
Tropical Rainforest
Saharan Desert
Kilimanjaro Snow Peak

NOTE: No humans


Matchup Format:
- 3v3 (1 SHW, 1 HW, 1 LHW)
- 1 substitute
- You must always have ALL 3 weight classes in the matchup, irrelevant of substitute activity
- Strategy driven fight; meaning the animals will fight together in a cohesive unit, regardless of animal temperament/aggressiveness
- Obviously, the team that is left standing, wins. This 3v3 is a fight to the death
- There are 8 contestants, meaning 3 rounds of matchups to crown the champion
- First round is 4 matchups
- Second round is 2 matchups
- Third round is the championship matchup
- The matchups in the first two rounds are RANDOM
- The environments for the matchups in all 3 rounds are RANDOM
- The contestants in a matchup will be given a paragraph or 100 or so words to explain why their team will win the matchup, and how it will happen EG- Strategically how they will win. This first paragraph must be sent to the Arbitrator (Me) and must not be shown to your opponent.
- The Arbitrator (Me) will then post both contestants paragraphs
- The contestants will then be allowed another paragraph to counter their opponent's original paragraph argument
- The counter arguments will be sent to the Arbitrator (Me) and I will post both of them at the same time
- The Judges will then read the arguments and the counter arguments, and then they will come to a decision on who is the victor
- Obviously the arguments/counter arguments are not the only thing that determines the Judges decision. Their personal opinion is the main factor, including their knowledge on animals
- Whoever gets the majority vote from the judges, is declared the victor

NEW RULE - 24 HOUR ARGUMENT
- As soon as both teams have been confirmed in a matchup, you have 24 hours to send the Arbitrator (me) your initial fight strategy
- If neither send the initial strategy to the Arbitrator (me) in time, the whole defense arguments from the contestants is skipped and it is sent straight to the judges for a decision and result
- If only one sends a fight strategy to the Arbitrator (me) in the 24 hours allowed, the other contestant is not allowed any form of response or written strategy, and it is sent to the judges for a decision and result. The contestant who did send in a strategy in the 24 hours will have his strategy accounted for and it will have an effect on the judges decision
- Obviously the strategies can only go so far and the judges decision is affected much more by their own personal opinion and knowledge. What a written strategy can do is convince and provide a predictible scenario in which the fight will take place

ENVIRONMENT 1 - African Savanna
http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/images/serengeti01.jpg
Characteristics: Flat plain with little to no trees. Ground is mostly shrubs and areas of medium to long grass. Lots of space, no mobility hindrance for large animals

ENVIRONMENT 2 - Tropical Rainforest
http://biome2swimmergirl.weebly.com/uploads/1/6/5/8/16589854/4080560_orig.jpg
Characteristics:Unpredictable, uneven, small confined space. A lot of tall trees. Dense vegetation. An environment that is definitely suited to the smaller, more mobile animals. Larger animals will find the environment constricting of mobility. Areas of water/small to moderate water bodies.

ENVIRONMENT 3 - Saharan Sand Desert
http://www.whereisitlocated.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Sahara-Desert-located1.jpg
Characteristics:Sandy environment floor consisting of huge dunes and peaks and waves. Also features areas of flat sand plains. Heavier animals will find that their mobility and movement is much slower due to the sand and being weighed down. Lighter animals will manage much better movement wise.

ENVIRONMENT 4 - Kilimanjaro Snow Peak
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01563/kili-corbis_1563951c.jpg
Characteristics: A flat snowy mountain peak. Elevation: 5,895 m. Snow slightly slows down heavier animals. Flat peak has steep drop offs all around it. Steep drop offs create a limited space.




EXAMPLES OF WEIGHT CLASSIFIED ANIMALS

SUPER-HEAVYWEIGHTS:
African Elephant
Asian Elephant
White Rhino
Black Rhino
Greater one-horned Rhino
Sumatran Rhino
Javan Rhino
Common Hippopotamus
Pygmy Hippopotamus
Giraffe
Walrus

HEAVYWEIGHTS:
Gaur
Salt Water Crocodile
Polar Bear
Grizzly Bear
Andean Bear
North American Black Bear
African Lion
Asiatic Lion
Cape Lion
Barbary Lion
Siberian Tiger
Bengal Tiger
Indochinese Tiger
Malayan Tiger
South China Tiger
Eastern Silverback Gorilla
Western Silverback Gorilla

LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHTS:
Spotted Hyena
Striped Hyena
Brown Hyena
Jsguar
Leopard
Cougar
Panther
Mountain Lion
Komodo Dragon
Panda Bear
Red Wolf
Grey Wolf
English Mastiff

NOTE: These lists are not the only animals you can chose. Just a guide for the weight classes. You may chose any living animal today that you think fit's one of these weight classes.



DRAFT

Round 1:
1-arkain - African Elephant (Super-Heavyweight)
2-ArbitraryWater - Asian Elephant (Super-Heavyweight)
3-Blackfrankwhite - Spanish Fighting Bull (Heavyweight)
4-Chief Keef - Bengal Tiger (Heavyweight)
5-iTare - White Rhino (Super-Heavyweight)
6-jaydacris - Cape Buffalo (Heavyweight)
7-ISHGoat - King Cobra (LHW)
8-Kingbeasley - Common Hippopotamus (SHW)

Round 2:
1-Kingbeasley - Grizzly Bear (HW)
2-ISHGoat - Black Rhino (SHW)
3-jaydacris - Jaguar (LHW)
4-iTare - Silver Back Gorilla (HW)
5-Chief Keef - Komodo Dragon (LHW)
6-Blackfrankwhite - Javan Rhino (SHW)
7-ArbitraryWater - Siberian Tiger (HW)
8-arkain - Polar Bear (HW)

Round 3:
1-arkain - Silver Back Gorilla (Sub HW)
2-ArbitraryWater - Leopard (LHW)
3-Blackfrankwhite - Cheetah (LHW)
4-Chief Keef - Greater one-horned Rhino (SHW)
5-iTare - African Lion (Sub HW)
6-jaydacris - Giraffe (SHW)
7-ISHGoat - Grolar Bear (HW)
8-Kingbeasley - Mountain Lion (LHW)

Round 4:
1-Kingbeasley - Black Mamba (Sub LHW)
2-ISHGoat - Gaur (Sub HW)
3-jaydacris - Saltwater Crocodile (Sub HW)
4-iTare - Chimpanzee (LHW)
5-Chief Keef - Black Bear (Sub HW)
6-Blackfrankwhite - Gray Wolf (Sub LHW)
7-ArbitraryWater - Striped Hyena (Sub LHW)
8-arkain - Spotted Hyena (LHW)

ROUND 1 MATCHUPS:

Matchup 1: ArbitraryWater vs Blackfrankwhite
Environment: African Savanna

Matchup 2: Arkain vs jaydacris
Environment: Kilimanjaro Mountain Peak

Matchup 3: ISHGoat vs Chief Keef
Environment: Kilimanjaro Mountain Peak

Matchup 4: Kingbeasley vs iTare
Environment: Saharan Sand Desert


Final Teams

Arkain
- African Elephant
- Polar Bear
- Western Gorilla
- Spotted Hyena

ArbitraryWater
- Asian Elephant
- Siberian Tiger
- Leopard
- Striped Hyena

Blackfrankwhite
- Spanish Fighting Bull
- Javan Rhino
- Cheetah
- Grey Wolf

Chief Keef
- Bengal Tiger
- Komodo Dragon
- Greater one-horned Rhino
- Black Bear

iTare
- White Rhino
- Eastern Gorilla
- African Lion
- Chimpanzee

jaydacris
- Cape Buffalo
- Jaguar
- Giraffe
- Saltwater Crocodile

ISHGoat
- King Cobra
- Black Rhino
- Grolar Bear
- Gaur

Kingbeasley
- Common Hippo
- Grizzly Bear
- Mountain Lion
- Black Mamba

[West-Side]

What's the criteria?

[iTare]

in

[ISHGoat]

In

[Chief Keef]

in

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What's the criteria?
Each contestant compiles a team of 3 animals from 3 separate weight classes. 4 Judges will then judge the matchups of 3 v 3.

[BlakFrankWhite]

IN

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I have made a weight class list of about 50 animals for a rough guide. Most of the best picks are on the list... Contestants can pick any animal alive today though.

[West-Side]

Each contestant compiles a team of 3 animals from 3 separate weight classes. 4 Judges will then judge the matchups of 3 v 3.

Judge based on what?
How cool the animal is? How strong it is? :lol

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Judge based on what?
How cool the animal is? How strong it is? :lol
Fight to death. The 3 animals are strategically working together. The judges are experienced animal fight hypotheticists.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Wbere's the list?

[ArbitraryWater]

in

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Once we have 8 contestants I will use a randomizer MULTIPLE times and post the results then we can average out the lottery placing to avoid potential rigging on my behalf.

[Richie2k6]

Lmao this board will draft anything. Cool idea though

[ArbitraryWater]

Lmao this board will draft anything. Cool idea though

This is fresh and innovative :applause:

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Need 3 more contestants and 3 judges

[Chief Keef]

Can I be a contestant and a judge? I'll log in on different accounts if you need me to

[ArbitraryWater]

contestant and judge at the same time I can be. Unbiased my voting always is.

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Alright I guess

Regardless, there are 3 judges so even if one were to be slightly biased, the majority is still in the other 2 judges.

[Yoda]

A judge I volunteer to be.

[kNIOKAS]

I could judge the contest. I've judged the founding fathers contest before.

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Ok we have 3 judges now

[Chief Keef]

We aren't including venomous animals or insects?

[BlakFrankWhite]

Uh...anyone here?

[GIF REACTION]

We aren't including venomous animals or insects?
Yep you can

Any land animal can be chosen. Even aerial ones... You can pick an animal that's not on the list and the judges will decide what weight class it is in. Light Heavyweight is really anything below Heavyweight so insects would fall under LHW

[GIF REACTION]

Uh...anyone here?
Need 3 more contestants then I will do the lottery draft positions

[CeltsGarlic]

Ugh, would love to join. Great idea.

will read

[ImmortalNemesis]

I'd like to take part, but I don't know much about animals :(

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Can I confirm Celts and Shade as contestants?

[ImmortalNemesis]

Hey, no. I said I'd like to, not that I would.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Which category would a Bull fall under?

Y'know those crazy bullfighting Bulls

[CeltsGarlic]

Next time, gif. Im on vacation for the next week.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Which category would a Bull fall under?

Y'know those crazy bullfighting Bulls

Spanish Bulls weigh 1000lbs, they're heavyweights.

[West-Side]

Honey Badger ****s up your entire list homie.

[kNIOKAS]

This is some inspirationel:

Last Emperor - Animalistics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_dA2VTqDr0)


Who's that legendary man that captures rappers by the twos
Part man and part animal like the kind you find in zoos
Imagine being hunted and confronted by rival crews
The Emperor takes the form of any animal I choose
You don't have the skill for this
Man destroys I'm rebuilding this
Watch me run through the industry like the wilderness
Return of the mic king
If I catch a wack rapper hiking
Not to my liking I stalk my prey before striking
There's no time to be rational or diplomatic
I'd rather have it wild like National Geographic
When emcees set up stares and jungle traps
My humble raps become ferocious like jungle cats
With two fangs
Take the advice of Wu-Tang
Protect ya neck or you'll get bicycle kicked like Liu Kang
I lie and wait as you violate all my jungle laws
I become a black panther with paws and razor-sharp claws
My cat form gives me the ability to pounce with the grace and the agility of a tiger they fire shots almost killing me
Three emcees run in different directions in sections
I transform into a cheetah I bet I could catch them in seconds
Now as a human my lyrics are the most pleasing
But in the form of a lion I aim straight for your throat region
There's no reason for you to mention where my caves are
I posess the speed of a puma like Marshall BraveStarr
Word is born the emperor be the Don
Chasing rap crooks out of my jungle book like Shere Khan
Your days are numbered
Your rap styles are going under, stunned ya
Some rap clown tried to hunt me down like Kraven the Hunter
See around my way this is how we do intruders
Mankind can't rhyme like the true Lion of Judah

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This is some inspirationel:

Last Emperor - Animalistics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_dA2VTqDr0)
:applause:

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Need 3 more contestants

[KingBeasley08]

If there's a spot left, I'll join. Hell, my thread inspired this draft. I want a spot

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Alright you guys are in

need 1 more before i can start the draft lottery positioning

[arkain]

I'll join.

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DRAFT SEQUENCING FOR POSITIONING
1. iTare
2. ISHGoat
3. Chief Keef
4. BlackFrankWhite
5. ArbitraryWater
6. jaydacris
7. KingBeasley08
8. arkain

This is the pre-sequence order

SEQUENCE 1:
1 - arkain
2- ArbitraryWater
3- Jaydacris
4- Blackfrankwhite
5- ISHGoat
6- Chief Keef
7- iTare
8- KingBeasley

SEQUENCE 2:
1- blackfrankwhite
2- Chief Keef
3- arkain
4- iTare
5- Kingbeasley
6- ArbitraryWater
7- ISH GOAT
8- Jaydacris

SEQUENCE 3:
1- iTare
2- arkain
3- jaydacris
4- ArbitraryWater
5- Chief Keef
6- Kingbeasley
7-Blackfrankwhite
8-ISHGoat

SEQUENCE 4:
1-ArbitraryWater
2-Chief Keef
3-arkain
4-ISHGoat
5-iTare
6-jaydacris
7-Blackfrankwhite
8-Kingbeasley

SEQUENCE 5:
1-Blackfrankwhite
2-Kingbeasley
3-ArbitraryWater
4-ISHGoat
5-iTare
6-Chief Keef
7-arkain
8-jaydacris

LOWEST TOTAL = 1# PICK

iTare total = 7+4+1+5+5=22
ISHGoat total = 5+7+8+4+4=28
Chief Keef total = 6+2+5+2+6=21
Blackfrankwhite = 4+1+7+7+1=20
ArbitraryWater = 2+6+4+1+3=16
jaydacris = 3+8+3+6+8=28
Kingbeasley = 8+5+6+8+2=29
arkain = 1+3+2+3+7=16

Draft Order
1-ArbitaryWater/arkain
2-ArbitraryWater/arkain
3-Blackfrankwhite
4-Chief Keef
5-iTare
6-jaydacris/ISHGoat
7-jaydacris/ISHGoat
8-Kingbeasley

Doing tie-breakers now for AW and arkain and jayda and ISHGoat

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Tiebreaker sequence 1:
1-arkain
2-ArbitraryWater

Tiebreaker sequence 2:
1- ArbitraryWater
2- arkain

Tiebreaker sequence 3:
1-arkain
2-ArbitraryWater

arkain is the 1st draft pick

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Tiebreaker sequence 1:
1-ISHGoat
2-Jaydacris

Tiebreaker sequence 2:
1-Jaydacris
2-ISHGoat

Tiebreaker sequence 3:
1-Jaydacris
2-ISHGoat

Jaydacris is 6th pick

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OFFICIAL Draft Order
1-arkain
2-ArbitraryWater
3-Blackfrankwhite
4-Chief Keef
5-iTare
6-jaydacris
7-ISHGoat
8-Kingbeasley

[ArbitraryWater]

Tiebreaker sequence 1:
1-arkain
2-ArbitraryWater

Tiebreaker sequence 2:
1- ArbitraryWater
2- arkain

Tiebreaker sequence 3:
1-arkain
2-ArbitraryWater

arkain is the 1st draft pick

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[ArbitraryWater]

wait a minute... you not participating?

and how much time to pick?

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Just so everyone knows I used this
https://www.random.org/sequences/

[arkain]

Pick #1

African Elephant

Weight: 6 tonnes
Height: 12 feet


Largest land animal on earth.

http://slappedham.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/African-Elephant-41.jpg

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wait a minute... you not participating?
I think I will be a judge

Was seeing how many numbers we would get and ended up getting enough

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AW is on the clock

Let's say 24 hours

I'll put some things in the original post

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Remember you have to chose an animal from each weight class. Can pick any weight class first. arkain went for his Super-Heavyweight animal first. There will be 3 rounds.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Add those bullfighting Bulls

That's my pick already reserved it

[ArbitraryWater]

Add those bullfighting Bulls

That's my pick already reserved it

http://media.giphy.com/media/bJNHJuvTM3sIw/giphy.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

What about snakes?

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What about snakes?
Yep,

depending on the size they could land in LHW or maybe HW

Will have to see the stats of them

hold on your pick for a little bit if you can

I'm just going to get the rules and how it all works down in the OP

[ArbitraryWater]

Yep,

depending on the size they could land in LHW or maybe HW

Will have to see the stats of them

hold on your pick for a little bit if you can

I'm just going to get the rules and how it all works down in the OP

Anaconda is mean as hell....

also, the fights will be at day time, yes?

[ISHGoat]

In

Got negged for this "don't encourage this"

**** u too nikka

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Anaconda is mean as hell....

also, the fights will be at day time, yes?
Yep

I am re-organizing the original post, and am right now making a Rules and stipulations header regarding the animal teams and the environments

[ArbitraryWater]

Pick #2 - Asian Elephant

After some research on the Asian Elephant..

I'm taking the Asian Elephant... strongest Elephant and Animal on this Earth.

It's the most compact, aggressive, and has the strongest build of any elephant. Wilder, and harder to keep in Zoo's than the American ones. It has the largest tusks of any elephant. The Indian one is just slightly smaller than the African one, but stronger. The largest asian elephant subspecies is the Srilankan elephant (Elephas maximus maximus).

Live nearly 10 years longer than the African ones on average (66-57).

[BlakFrankWhite]

Got negged for this "don't encourage this"

**** u too nikka

Same

[ArbitraryWater]

Ground, Water up next, we gonna complete it with Air? :bowdown:


and btw, yes, I also got that message lol..

Just 4 rounds? Wanna make it 6? 5?

Good starting five.

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Ground, Water up next, we gonna complete it with Air? :bowdown:


and btw, yes, I also got that message lol..

Just 4 rounds? Wanna make it 6? 5?

Good starting five.
What do you guys think?

I was thinking 3v3 with one sub for stylistic matchups

There are 4 environments the fights will take place in

They are randomly picked for the matchups

As are the matchups randomly picked

I will name the 4 environments in a second...Basiclly, one is a forest, one is an african savanna, one is a sand desert, and is a rocky flat plain

[BlakFrankWhite]

Since the two Elephants have been picked

I pick the fighting Bull

At 1600 lbs its one of the strongest...and by far THE most aggressive animal in the world...its also very swift...and if angry(which it always is) it has no problem killing other animals....

Its horn is of incredible strength...I watched a vid....where it picked up and threw down a Lion with its horn...again and again till the Lion was bloody and dead.

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Since the two Elephants have been picked

I pick the fighting Bull

At 1600 lbs its one of the strongest...and by far THE most aggressive animal in the world...its also very swift...and if angry(which it always is) it has no problem killing other animals....

Its horn is of incredible strength...I watched a vid....where it picked up and threw down a Lion with its horn...again and again till the Lion was bloody and dead.
Ok that will come under Heavyweight?

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Chief Keef is on the clock

[BlakFrankWhite]

Super heavy

[kNIOKAS]

Jesus Maria Christ... It's on already!

I didn't make to see if extint/rare animals are fine... Not bringing dinosaurs in but it sure would make it fancier. Ok well, I think the precedent is set for it to be contempo animals, am I right.

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Ok

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ENVIRONMENT 1 - African Savanna
http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/images/serengeti01.jpg
Characteristics: Flat plain with little to no trees. Ground is mostly shrubs and areas of medium to long grass. Lots of space, no mobility hindrance for large animals

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ENVIRONMENT 2 - Tropical Rainforest
http://biome2swimmergirl.weebly.com/uploads/1/6/5/8/16589854/4080560_orig.jpg
Characteristics:Unpredictable, uneven, small confined space. A lot of tall trees. Dense vegetation. An environment that is definitely suited to the smaller, more mobile animals. Larger animals will find the environment constricting of mobility.

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ENVIRONMENT 3 - Saharan Sand Desert
http://www.whereisitlocated.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Sahara-Desert-located1.jpg
Characteristics:Sandy environment floor consisting of huge dunes and peaks and waves. Also features areas of flat sand plains. Heavier animals will find that their mobility and movement is much slower due to the sand and being weighed down. Lighter animals will manage much better movement wise.

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ENVIRONMENT 4 - Kilimanjaro Snow Peak
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01563/kili-corbis_1563951c.jpg
Characteristics: A flat snowy mountain peak. Elevation: 5,895 m. Snow slightly slows down heavier animals. Flat peak has steep drop offs all around it. Steep drop offs create a limited space.

[GIF REACTION]

Alright,

So all the rules are in the original post

Chief Keef has 23 hours to make a selection

I'm off for awhile. Just go along with the draft order in the OP and tell whoever is up in line to pick

[ArbitraryWater]

Those enviroments are sweet, nicely chosen.

[ArbitraryWater]

I dont mean to be a dick here or anything, but isnt having people who are contestants be judges as well seem a bit unfair? Not just the bias part, but gives other people on the forum a chance to join in on it as well, rather than the same small group, just my 2 cents.

great idea btw tho OP :rockon:

hah no doubt.. wanna take my spot?

[Chief Keef]

My choice is the largest and the second fastest cat in the world. Weighing in at 1000 lbs, larger than the average grizzly bear. The beast incarnate, the Liger.







http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2xD3oKRV--/18dxfojy2mc3wjpg.jpg


good game fellas

[Chief Keef]

Also, as judge, I declare myself the winner

[Smook B]

My choice is the largest and the second fastest cat in the world. Weighing in at 1000 lbs, larger than the average grizzly bear. The beast incarnate, the Liger.







http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2xD3oKRV--/18dxfojy2mc3wjpg.jpg


good game fellas

Not that many feats of this animal.

[zoom17]

hah no doubt.. wanna take my spot?

I wouldn't mind being a judge.

[Chief Keef]

Not that many feats of this animal.


Known to grow over 1300 lbs (twice the size as the average inland Grizzly bear)

Fastest animal in the heavyweight category

The canine teeth of the ligers are twice the length of the tigers

[Smook B]

[QUOTE=Chief Keef]Known to grow over 1300 lbs (twice the size as the average inland Grizzly bear)

Fastest animal in the heavyweight category

The canine teeth of the ligers are twice the length of the tigers

[Chief Keef]

Damn that's one beast you think it could take on a saber tooth?


For the purposes of this draft I'll say yes, due to the Liger being much larger. But those teeth on the saber tooth would be a problem

[ISHGoat]

Animals like the liger shouldn't be allowed because that's not a legit spieces capable of reproducing, it's basically a gimmick.

Can some nice gentlemen please put me back in the green? Got negged for participating in this thread by some dickhead

[Chief Keef]

I read all of the rules and nowhere did it say I couldn't pick a liger

[arkain]

You can pick a liger, but an animal bred in captivity that has never once hunted in the wild isn't going to do shit against a real predator in the wild.

That's like feeding a baby cakes it's entire life and just cause it's fat you say it's a heavyweight fighter ready to go against Foreman.

[ISHGoat]

I read all of the rules and nowhere did it say I couldn't pick a liger

thats true, but it still kind of feels like cheating to me, because its esseentially a new species that humans made for entertainment, not a naturally occuring wild animal. plus ligers typically have a spew of genetic defects and generally lots of health issues. its up to you bro, i dont think a liger would do well in this context either. sure theyre huge and powerful, but they dont actually seem that mobile or co-ordinated to me. ligers would be like that 7'7 indian dude on the kings.

[arkain]

thats true, but it still kind of feels like cheating to me, because its esseentially a new species that humans made for entertainment, not a naturally occuring wild animal. its up to you bro

Don't worry. Ligers have never hunted in their entire existence, it can't fight. Not one record of a liger hunting an animal.

[arkain]

iTare up next. Make your pick!

Liger is Super HW I guess.

[ArbitraryWater]

You can pick a liger, but an animal bred in captivity that has never once hunted in the wild isn't going to do shit against a real predator in the wild.

That's like feeding a baby cakes it's entire life and just cause it's fat you say it's a heavyweight fighter ready to go against Foreman.

this


also, Chief, arent you Smook B :biggums:

[MJistheGOAT]

Indominus Rex someone??

[iTare]

African Rhino.

http://www.faecdn.com/d/hex/i/most-dangerous-game-black-rhino.jpg

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African Rhino.

http://www.faecdn.com/d/hex/i/most-dangerous-game-black-rhino.jpg
I take it you pick the White Rhino AKA the biggest type of Rhino?

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jaydacris is up

regarding the liger

I guess it can be picked because it is technically a live animal today

forgot to put that in the rules

the animals must be alive today

How effective the liger will be will come down to the judges opinions/interpretation. If you need to convince them with evidence from writings/footage available you can do so to avoid getting shafted. I think a Liger can be a great pick, I do recall seeing some writing about it being able to achieve ridiculous speeds and still retain it's movement. It is also classified as a Heavyweight because it is still smaller than a polar bear which is the biggest of the Heavyweight class.

[GIF REACTION]

Still need one more judge

[That_Admiral]

Keen

[GIF REACTION]

Keen
You want to be a judge?

[That_Admiral]

You want to be a judge?
yup

[GIF REACTION]

Ok good now we have 3 judges

[Chief Keef]

thats true, but it still kind of feels like cheating to me, because its esseentially a new species that humans made for entertainment, not a naturally occuring wild animal. plus ligers typically have a spew of genetic defects and generally lots of health issues. its up to you bro, i dont think a liger would do well in this context either. sure theyre huge and powerful, but they dont actually seem that mobile or co-ordinated to me. ligers would be like that 7'7 indian dude on the kings.



Or Yao Ming

[ISHGoat]

Or Yao Ming

Wtf bruh Yao was a great center cmon lets be serious here

[ArbitraryWater]

Liger smh....

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jaydacris has like 18 hours or so to pick

[arkain]

Can the team work together to an extent?

Of course I don't mean a monkey lassos in a lion using an anaconda. But like a wild dog hiding behind an elephant for safety?

[GIF REACTION]

Can the team work together to an extent?

Of course I don't mean a monkey lassos in a lion using an anaconda. But like a wild dog hiding behind an elephant for safety?
Yep

That was kind of my intention with the idea on 3 v 3

Not sure how the Judges should interpret teamwork among a team...

Maybe the judges can base it on the aggressiveness and hunting styles of the animals so animals that hunt in packs like Lions will try and hunt together with in unison with the other animals whereas a spanish fighting bull is much less tactical and it charges anything in it's way

Not sure... need to figure this out because teamwork will add a level of strategy to the draft picks and in regards to how they play in the 4 environments

[arkain]

Yep

That was kind of my intention with the idea on 3 v 3

Not sure how the Judges should interpret teamwork among a team...

Maybe the judges can base it on the aggressiveness and hunting styles of the animals so animals that hunt in packs like Lions will try and hunt together with in unison with the other animals whereas a spanish fighting bull is much less tactical and it charges anything in it's way

Not sure... need to figure this out because teamwork will add a level of strategy to the draft picks and in regards to how they play in the 4 environments

Well the onus should be on the team owner to lay out their strategy for the environment and the teamwork amongst their chosen animals, instead of judges speculating how it would play out. A small write-up for each matchup should be necessary to help the judges. The judges can then decide how ludicrous or probable the described strategy may be.

[GIF REACTION]

Well the onus should be on the team owner to lay out their strategy for the environment and the teamwork amongst their chosen animals, instead of judges speculating how it would play out. A small write-up for each matchup should be necessary to help the judges. The judges can then decide how ludicrous or probable the described strategy may be.
Alright that sounds good.

I'll add that to the original post. Once the draft is over I will write up an example of the whole process of a matchup and declaring the winner.

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So guys take note that you need to factor in teamwork into your draft picks and not just picking the strongest animals you possibly can. An elephant is going to have trouble in a condensed area in a rainforest...

Make sure you take into account the 4 environments because they are completely random for every matchup

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DsIdEnGWv8

Underrated pick by blackfrankwhite

only question is... Do you guys think a Spanish Fighting Bull is a super heavyweight or a heavyweight?

[arkain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DsIdEnGWv8

Underrated pick by blackfrankwhite

only question is... Do you guys think a Spanish Fighting Bull is a super heavyweight or a heavyweight?

Super-heavy

Mature bulls weigh from 500 to 700 kg (1100-1600 lb).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Fighting_Bull

[magic chiongson]

Not that many feats of this animal.
more like zero feats. it's like a v12 supercar that's never been driven on a track


btw, why hasn't anyone picked this light heavyweight animal:


http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2011/08/ORD_L115A3_and_Sniper_Ghillie_lg.jpg

stats:

average length ~ 68 inches
average weight ~ 170 lbs
responsible for the extinction of over 1000 other species

[GIF REACTION]

A liger vs a bear or Liger vs Spanish fighting bull would be very interesting fights

[ArbitraryWater]

Can we cut the 24 hrs to 12? I mean, one can PM judges their next pick(s) anyway... will most likely still be available at the time when the pick is allowed to be done with this variety of options.

[arkain]

Can we cut the 24 hrs to 12? I mean, one can PM judges their next pick(s) anyway... will most likely still be available at the time when the pick is allowed to be done with this variety of options.

Agree w/ 12 hrs.

PM Gif Reaction if you're going to be away for an extended period. He'll take care of it.

[ISHGoat]

I think we should have draft interval reduced, # of judges increased, and a supermajority vote (lets say 2/3) required. Something like a 2-1 vote really doesnt convince me that one team may be better than another. but 6-3? Ok.

[arkain]

I think we should have draft interval reduced, # of judges increased, and a supermajority vote (lets say 2/3) required. Something like a 2-1 vote really doesnt convince me that one team may be better than another. but 6-3? Ok.

We can have the contestants vote? But only count the contestants vote as 0.5.

So for each matchup, you can have the other 6 vote which will count for 3 votes in total.

GIF Reaction can have the tie-breaker vote if it goes to 3-3.

[GIF REACTION]

Ooh very nice choice

ISHGoat is up

[arkain]

Nice pick. Cape buffallo is super heavy though, twice the weight of a polar bear.

[KingBeasley08]

Is Cape buffalo a super heavyweight or heavyweight? What about American Bison? Need to know for my upcoming picks?

[GIF REACTION]

Would 1 tonne be the start point for SuperHW's a good mark?

[GIF REACTION]

SHW =1000KGs+ (2200LBs+)
HW = 500KGs-1000KGS (1000Lbs-2200lbs)
LHW = Anything below 1000lbs

How are those weight measurements? Any tweak recommendations?

[GIF REACTION]

Is Cape buffalo a super heavyweight or heavyweight? What about American Bison? Need to know for my upcoming picks?
Cape Buffalo is a heavyweight

IMO it's too small to be bunched with the elephants/rhinos/hippos of the SHW

[KingBeasley08]

Looks good. C'mon ISHGoat. I got my shit ready

[arkain]

Cape Buffalo is a heavyweight

IMO it's too small to be bunched with the elephants/rhinos/hippos of the SHW

Then the Spanish fighting bull should be heavyweight too.

[GIF REACTION]

Then the Spanish fighting bull should be heavyweight too.
Agreed

[GIF REACTION]

ISHGoat has 10 hours to pick

[ISHGoat]

I pick the homo sapiens, in the light-heavyweight division

[GIF REACTION]

You sure bro?

A human gets whooped by pretty much every animal in the game

[ISHGoat]

You sure bro?

A human gets whooped by pretty much every animal in the game

yes, I am absolutely positive.

if my pick of human is confirmed, i will forfeit my two other picks

[GIF REACTION]

yes, I am absolutely positive.

if my pick of human is confirmed, i will forfeit my two other picks
I just checked the rulebook

can't pick humans

sorry

[ISHGoat]

I just checked the rulebook

can't pick humans

sorry

why not? i promise my human wont use nukes :roll: :roll:

he'll just armbar some gorillas

[Stempel, HERB]

picking within 30 mins

What's the matter tubby, gotta stop for "refreshments" in between threads to post online?

Hurry your Snorlax self up before you're whale wife puts you on thin ice.

And the fish will be alerted.

[GIF REACTION]

Alright I will take ISHGoat's place to get this draft moving

Will pick ASAP

[Chief Keef]

Wtf bruh Yao was a great center cmon lets be serious here


Exactly. Yao was selectively bred in China just like the Liger was selectively bred to dominate this competition.

[ISHGoat]

Alright I will take ISHGoat's place to get this draft moving

Will pick ASAP

naw *** that

im picking the king cobra


Some snake bites can pierce elephant skin. King cobras (Ophiophagus hannah) are notable [1]. Clocking in at ~4m long and 9kg weight, they are the world's longest venomous snake, and are found in India and Southeast Asia.

The king cobra’s venom is not, ounce for ounce (or milligram for milligram, as the professionals would measure it), the most potent. Among land snakes, that honor appears to belong to the inland taipan of Australia. But what the king cobra lacks in potency, it makes up for in volume. Its half-inch fangs deliver a huge dose, up to seven milliliters of venom, or about one-quarter of a whiskey shot glass. The lethality of venom depends on a combination of its potency, the volume delivered and the size of the victim. A king cobra bite can kill a human in 15 minutes and a full-grown elephant in a few hours.

What makes these cobras kings is not just their size, or their deadliness — after all, they don’t eat humans or elephants — it is that they eat other snakes. Even deadly snakes like kraits or other cobras are prey. These snakes bite when attacked, of course, which raises the question: How does the king cobra maintain such an apparently high-risk lifestyle?

the king cobra, while not the most venomous snake in the world, is the only recorded snake to be able to kill elephants, doing so in hours due to its large bite force, allowing it to penetrate the thick hide of an elephant.

all you other phucks that didnt pick the king cobra will not be able to get through the frontline of the dudes that picked the african behemoths with thick hide such as elephants and rhinos.


peace out all you other ****s, this one is over

edit: apparantly there is also one documented case of a black mamba killing an elephant.


There is also one documented case of a black mamba (Dendroaspis polylepis) bite killing an elephant. Other than that, all elephant deaths due to snake bites have been attributed to king cobras [2].

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I pick the Common Hippopotamus (SUPER-HEAVYWEIGHT)
http://www.hippoworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/common-hippopotamus.jpg

Common hippos are recognizable by their barrel-shaped torsos, wide-opening mouths revealing large canine tusks, nearly hairless bodies, columnar-like legs and large size; adults average 1,500 kg (3,300 lb) and 1,300 kg (2,900 lb) for males and females respectively, making them the largest species of land mammal after the 3 species of elephants and the white and Indian rhinoceros. Despite its stocky shape and short legs, it is capable of running 30 km/h (19 mph) over short distances. The hippopotamus is a highly aggressive and unpredictable animal and is ranked among the most dangerous animals in Africa

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Kingbeasley is up to finish the 1st round

[KingBeasley08]

so what did he pick? the cobra or the hippo?

[ISHGoat]

so what did he pick? the cobra or the hippo?

Im taking the cobra, his pick was just a contingency plan for if I trolled or logged off for 10 hours

[GIF REACTION]

so what did he pick? the cobra or the hippo?
ISHGoat foolin' around

I took his place to get this shit moving along

[KingBeasley08]

ISHGoat foolin' around

I took his place to get this shit moving along
u sure? king cobra ain't a horrible pick. final word, you decide which one is final

[BlakFrankWhite]

Even the first round aint finished yet?

We'll be done in a month at this pace

[ISHGoat]

ISHGoat foolin' around

I took his place to get this shit moving along

wtf u fukboi *****?

[GIF REACTION]

The Common Hippo was picked

[ISHGoat]

The Common Hippo was picked

after i picked the king cobra

[GIF REACTION]

Yeah it's final. I know ISHGoat too well

He'll drag this shit out for days

[ISHGoat]

Yeah it's final. I know ISHGoat too well

He'll drag this shit out for days

what did i drag out? i made my pick like 10 minutes after you said I cant pick humans

[arkain]

Pick a lion and lioness, mate while the draft is going on and by the time the fights start, you'll have an entire pride ready to fvck up anyone!

:cheers:

[KingBeasley08]

Got 2 Picks now

[ISHGoat]

lol i just got kicked out of the draft ok then, was looking forward to this but you are a dick simon

[GIF REACTION]

lol i just got kicked out of the draft ok then, was looking forward to this but you are a dick simon
Do you HONESTLY want to pick a King Cobra?

Are you 100% being serious here


Because you'll get DESTROYED.

[ISHGoat]

Do you HONESTLY want to pick a King Cobra?

Are you 100% being serious here


Because you'll get DESTROYED.

yes Im actually serious, because that is the only animal that can take down the heavy frontline. what the **** my tiger going to do vs an elephant?!!

I look at it like this, the guys before me picked 2 elephants, 1 bull, 1 rhino, 1 buffalo, 1 hippo.

if I try to fight those picks with brute strength, im going to get destroyed simply because those guys already took the best "beasts"

my only option is to think outside the box.

[GIF REACTION]

A snake will get torn to SHREDS and by the venom won't matter because it's whoever dies first.

[GIF REACTION]

Fine.

ISHGoat is back in.

Hippo is back on the market

King Cobra is off the market

[GIF REACTION]

kingbeas has back 2 back picks here

[ISHGoat]

A snake will get torn to SHREDS and by the venom won't matter because it's whoever dies first.

we'll see what the jurors have to say about that... I think a snake can inflict a lethal bite on an elephant before it gets shredded, and thats all I need. Just hit and run tactics on their tanks before I let my frontline in on their squishy targets.

and thanks for putting me back in

:cheers:

for a moment you were going all dictator on me and had my name erased on your first post LOL

[GIF REACTION]

Snake is actually a decent pick strategy wise

Especially in the rainforest environment

[KingBeasley08]

Got 2 Picks now

First, I pick the common Hippopotamus that just back on the market. Most dangerous animal in the world. Fights entire prides of lions. Kills crocodiles with one bite and is a danger in the water too. Weighs up to 3300 lbs and runs up to 25 mph

https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/snarky_hippo.jpg

With my second pick and the first of the second round, I choose the Grizzly Bear. Strong, fast, an absolute predator. An adult grizzly can weigh up to 700 lbs and can run up to 30 mph. Can hold off an entire pack of wolves and consistently defeats all other predators in battle. Also, it is versatile in different environments like plains, jungles, and even the water.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/1933110-grizzly_bear.jpg

[ISHGoat]

Snake is actually a decent pick strategy wise

Especially in the rainforest environment

snakes to live in deserts and plains too, it is very versatile and stealth :rockon:

[ISHGoat]

my second pick will be up in an hour, heading on train to go home now.

guys after me can feel free to prepare their picks

[GIF REACTION]

Got 2 Picks now

First, I pick the common Hippopotamus that just back on the market. Most dangerous animal in the world. Fights entire prides of lions. Kills crocodiles with one bite and is a danger in the water too. Weighs up to 3300 lbs and runs up to 25 mph

https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/snarky_hippo.jpg

With my second pick and the first of the second round, I choose the Grizzly Bear. Strong, fast, an absolute predator. An adult grizzly can weigh up to 700 lbs and can run up to 30 mph. Can hold off an entire pack of wolves and consistently defeats all other predators in battle. Also, it is versatile in different environments like plains, jungles, and even the water.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/1933110-grizzly_bear.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ToTcX.gif

HUGE picks.

[GIF REACTION]

Using the new weight class list

SHW =1000KGs+ (2200LBs+)
HW = 500KGs-1000KGS (1000Lbs-2200lbs)
LHW = Anything below 1000lbs

Grizzly Bear comes under LHW, so Kingbeasley still has a HW pick left

[ISHGoat]

Using the new weight class list

SHW =1000KGs+ (2200LBs+)
HW = 500KGs-1000KGS (1000Lbs-2200lbs)
LHW = Anything below 1000lbs

Grizzly Bear comes under LHW, so Kingbeasley still has a HW pick left

Thinking outside the box here again, can I pick a colony of insects that in total weighs 2200lbs as my shw?

[arkain]

Using the new weight class list

SHW =1000KGs+ (2200LBs+)
HW = 500KGs-1000KGS (1000Lbs-2200lbs)
LHW = Anything below 1000lbs

Grizzly Bear comes under LHW, so Kingbeasley still has a HW pick left

If you put a Grizzly in LHW you render everything smaller than a tiger useless. Hyenas and Grizzly in the same weight class? It was better before imo.

[KingBeasley08]

Nah Grizzly should probably go into Heavyweight otherwise shit gets too confusing lol

In fact, the list you have in the front page is a good template for the heavyweight section. Bears, gorilla, tigers, lions etc.. are all in a similar tier so they we should tweak the weight classes for it

[ISHGoat]

If you put a Grizzly in LHW you render everything smaller than a tiger useless. Hyenas and Grizzly in the same weight class? It was better before imo.

Yeah I agree with this man. 500kg and 1000kg to me are all huge animals. IMO reasonable thresholds that encourage more creativity and thought would be

Less than 100 - lightweight
100-1000 heavyweight
1000+ shw

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If you put a Grizzly in LHW you render everything smaller than a tiger useless. Hyenas and Grizzly in the same weight class? It was better before imo.
Alright I wasn't sure on the weight class list

I think it's best if the contestants decide/we all place the animals picked in the weight classes

Grizzly should be in the same weight class as the Bulls/Ligers/

So I'll move it to HW

[GIF REACTION]

We all input on the weight class of the animals picked

I'll move grizzly to HW

[ISHGoat]

My pick for SHW:

If I am allowed a swarm of insects that weigh up to 2200 lbs, I will take killer bees

Otherwise I am picking the Black Rhino, the smaller but much more aggressive and dangerous version of the the two rhinos.

[GIF REACTION]

The thing that put me off originally was I didn't realize how many huge dangerous bovine type animals like Bulls and Buffalos there were

They are bigger than bears but smaller than rhinos/hippos

[Stempel, HERB]

my second pick will be up in an hour, heading on train to go home now.

guys after me can feel free to prepare their picks

The public transportation system do not need the stench of burnt tacos screwing up our citizens pleasant ride back.

Use the Mexican transportation system instead.

[GIF REACTION]

My pick for SHW:

If I am allows a swarm of insects that weigh up to 2200 lbs, I will take killer bees

Otherwise I am picking the Black Rhino, the smaller but much more aggressive and dangerous version of the the two rhinos.
A swarm would be OP but I'll let the others decide if it should be allowed. Probably would make judging fights too hard

[ISHGoat]

A swarm would be OP but I'll let the others decide if it should be allowed. Probably would make judging fights too hard

Yes it indeed would be OP but it is naturally occurring, maybe not 2200lbs worth at once, but the thought remains. You'd see a swarm of bees in the wild attack an animal before you see a liger in the wild.... at all

[KingBeasley08]

Eh, that many bees or insects is too OP. Even elephants couldn't do anything

[GIF REACTION]

It would bring up complications

Do everyone single one of the swarm need to be killed for the win? How does an elephant kill small flying insects

[GIF REACTION]

Tactically it makes sense but logically I don't know how it could be fairly judged

[arkain]

If you're going to increase the # of animals to accomplish a specific weight then why can't I pick 20 hyenas as a super HW?

Should be limited to 1 animal imo.

[GIF REACTION]

If you're going to increase the # of animals to accomplish a specific weight then why can't I pick 20 hyenas as a super HW?

Should be limited to 1 animal imo.
Yeah this is a good point

ISHGoat picks Black Rhino then

jaydacris is up

[GIF REACTION]

It would be too late to change the dynamic of the whole thing to weight totals

So maybe we can try that in the water animal draft later on or something

[ISHGoat]

As the draft is well on the way, I think we should establish rules for trial.

I propose that in each trial, each poster is allowed to make two posts. First is the argument for why their team should suceed over their opponents. This is to be PMd to an arbitrator as to not allow the parties to see each others arguments. When the arb receives both arguments, he will post them here.

Then, both parties PM a "defense" post that addresses/counters the opponents arguments, once again, to be sent by PM to a third party.

So you have one chance to make a "case for" your team without seeing your opponents, then one chance to defend against your opponents first argument.

Then the judges must evaluate the outcome solely based on the four posts, with no external influences or judgements except fact verifying. Similar to a jury trial, a verdict must be made based solely on the evidence provided by the prosecution and reasonable doubts of the defense.

Further, I highly highly recommend increasing the juror count.

[GIF REACTION]

As the draft is well on the way, I think we should establish rules for trial.

I propose that in each trial, each poster is allowed to make two posts. First is the argument for why their team should suceed over their opponents. This is to be PMd to an arbitrator as to not allow the parties to see each others arguments. When the arb receives both arguments, he will post them here.

Then, both parties PM a "defense" post that addresses/counters the opponents arguments, once again, to be sent by PM to a third party.

So you have one chance to make a "case for" your team without seeing your opponents, then one chance to defend against your opponents first argument.

Then the judges must evaluate the outcome solely based on the four posts, with no external influences or judgements except fact verifying. Similar to a jury trial, a verdict must be made based solely on the evidence provided by the prosecution and reasonable doubts of the defense.

Further, I highly highly recommend increasing the juror count.
Yeah alright we'll do all of this. I'll be the arbitrator as I am neither contestant nor judge. I'll look around for a few more judges. How many would be good?

[Yoda]

JUDGES
1. zoom17
2. That_Admiral
3. kNIOKAS

Repeatedly ignore my nomination you did. Regret is you shall.

[GIF REACTION]

Repeatedly ignore my nomination you did. Regret is you shall.
How can I expect Yoda to be a judge when he is a gimmick account

[Yoda]

How can I expect Yoda to be a judge when he is a gimmick account

Wise I am. Judge me not on my grammar.

[ISHGoat]

Yeah alright we'll do all of this. I'll be the arbitrator as I am neither contestant nor judge. I'll look around for a few more judges. How many would be good?

It depends how rigorous you want this game to be.

For example, if this were to be played in a money pool where the victor gets like $5000 I would say 12 jurors and a 10-2 verdict is required to proceed

For this, I would say 8 jurors and a 6-2 vote required, if it is not met, posters submit a third post. After a third post, simple majority is sufficient (5-3). If it is still hung (4-4), we have each of the jurors assign a score to the team and the team with the higher score after discounting the top and bottom score wins (like in gymnastics)

If you think getting 8 people to commit and be serious about this is too much, then we can go for like 6 people where 4-2 is required. I don't think numbers like 3,5,7 are good because a 4-3 or 3-2 vote will be common, and do we really want people winning because of one vote that swayed the result?

All in all, I think 6 jurors is a realistic and responsible number.

Matterfact, I don't think we could get 6 reasonable posters in here for this, so maybe a minimum of 4

[GIF REACTION]

Ok nice pick. So we all agree Jaguar is a LHW or a HW?

[GIF REACTION]

iTare is up.

[ISHGoat]

Ok nice pick. So we all agree Jaguar is a LHW or a HW?

LHW

[arkain]

LHW

Agree it maxes out at 200lb, def LHW.

[GIF REACTION]

Alright

iTare up.

[ArbitraryWater]

wow jay

[arkain]

iTare is up.

4 hours left for iTare to make a pick.

[arkain]

Great pick :applause:

Chief Keef is next.

[GIF REACTION]

Silver Back Gorilla.

http://cdn1.designbyhumans.com/product/design/u441325/pr41338-artwork-650x450-b-p-ffffff.jpg
He strong.

Good pick

Is this a HW or a LHW guys?

[That_Admiral]

HW
http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/1206/79/6a732e9f235d.jpg

[GIF REACTION]

Alright, HW confirmed

Chief Keef up.

[GIF REACTION]

Chief Keef has 8 hrs

[GIF REACTION]

We have some big ass HWs that weigh 2.5 times a Gorilla

Just making sure

[GIF REACTION]

Chief Keef

[arkain]

Chief Keef

1 hr left for him. People need to PM their picks if they are going to be away for a while. This is taking forever.

[GIF REACTION]

Chief Keef is online and he'll pick in a moment

blackfrankwhite is next and then arbitrarywater then airkain

[Chief Keef]

Saltwater Crocs are super heavyweight but Polar Bears and Cape Buffalo are heavyweight ??

[GIF REACTION]

I'll say Salt Crocs are HW's because Ligers and large bovines aka bulls/buffalo are too

[GIF REACTION]

Some of that examples list is a little off

The crocs/guar/buffaloes/bulls are the heaviest of the HWs

[BlakFrankWhite]

My turn?

[GIF REACTION]

My turn?
Keef is about to pick

BTW your fighting bull is considered a HW so you can still pick a SHW

[Chief Keef]

My turn?


I think it's past my time. You can go ahead and pick. I'm narrowing my choices

[GIF REACTION]

ok both can pick

you guys both already have HW's so look to lock up a quality SHW IMO

We might have to break down the hippo to different regions of the same species due to the lack of real SHW's

[Chief Keef]

I'll pick a Light heavyweight actually.



I choose the armored, agile, venomous Komodo Dragon.


Komodo Dragons can take down water buffalo with one bite, so I like their chances against other light heavyweights

[GIF REACTION]

Alright good pick

blackfrankwhite up

[ArbitraryWater]

ballin my man, send a brotha a PM for my next move.. :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

I wanna pick so bad right now...

cmon blakfrankwhite

[ArbitraryWater]

Like it was said, lets get some more judges.. or all contestants here voting too, each cote counting half a Point.. dont think anyone's beefing with each other in this draft, all love :cheers:

[BlakFrankWhite]

Can I pick T-Rex?

[ArbitraryWater]

Can I pick T-Rex?

no

cmon now

[BlakFrankWhite]

Help me out man, the rest of the SHW suck!

[ArbitraryWater]

take a LW? I dunno..

Im boutta take a HW, torn between 2 animals.. Ballin said he sees one dominant one, I see 2 hmm

[GIF REACTION]

Help me out man, the rest of the SHW suck!
Wait a sec I'll sort that out

Arb you can chose your HW

BFW already has a HW

[arkain]

Help me out man, the rest of the SHW suck!

There is a second species of rhino and hippo available.

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm split between the Polar Bear (largest bear, bigger than Grizzly, usually avoids confrontations but would probably win that fight) and the Siberian Tiger... the biggest tiger and cat there is.

Tiger is naturally aggressive, much faster, more agile, Polar Bear is bigger, his strike, if it lands, is more powerful...

Ballin, what you say? With these enviroments, how do the judges judge? I mean, the Tiger is suited for 3/4 of them, the Polar Bear would only be naturally suited on Ice.

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There is a second species of rhino and hippo available.
I just realized pygmy hippo is actually 300-600 pounds

I'm just thinking something out

[arkain]

I'm split between the Polar Bear (largest bear, bigger than Grizzly, usually avoids confrontations but would probably win that fight) and the Siberian Tiger... the biggest tiger and cat there is.

Tiger is naturally aggressive, much faster, more agile, Polar Bear is bigger, his strike, if it lands, is more powerful...

Ballin, what you say? With these enviroments, how do the judges judge? I mean, the Tiger is suited for 3/4 of them, the Polar Bear would only be naturally suited on Ice.

Those 2 and one more is on my shortlist too. Depending on what falls to me. Can't go wrong with either. Even with a polar bear, you can pick a different reserve HW.

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Five subspecies of hippos have been described based on morphological differences in their skulls and geographical differences:[12]:3

Great Northern Hippopotamus or Nile Hippopotamus H. a. amphibius – (the nominate subspecies) which stretched from Egypt, where they are now extinct, south up the Nile River to Tanzania and Mozambique
East African Hippopotamus H. a. kiboko – in Kenya in the African Great Lakes region, and in Somalia in the Horn of Africa. Broader nasals and more hollowed interorbital region
Cape Hippopotamus or South African Hippopotamus H. a. capensis – from Zambia to South Africa, most flattened skull of the subspecies
West African Hippopotamus or Tchad Hippopotamus H. a. tschadensis – throughout Western Africa to, as the name suggests, Chad, slightly shorter and wider face, with prominent orbits
Angola Hippopotamus H. a. constrictus – in Angola, the southern Democratic Republic of Congo and Namibia, named for its deeper preorbital constriction

[Chief Keef]

the biggest there is.



I already got the biggest cat

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IMO We should allow these 5 different regional versions of the normal hippo because SHW lacks animals

[Chief Keef]

And the biggest lizard

[arkain]

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Five subspecies of hippos have been described based on morphological differences in their skulls and geographical differences:[12]:3

Great Northern Hippopotamus or Nile Hippopotamus H. a. amphibius

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There might be some slight structural differences between these hippo types so I'll read up on it

[ArbitraryWater]

I already got the biggest cat

Liger was the worst early pick though

[ArbitraryWater]

How much will the Polar Bear's strength suffer if he has to fight in the damn Desert? Technically, I mean, thats way out of his comfort Zone with the climate... but all the space would suit him.

Jungle? Obvious Tiger Advantage, more agile in tigher spaces.

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Ok so we have about 9 solid Super Heavyweights without going into sub species

[Chief Keef]

Liger was the worst early pick though


Nah. It's the fastest heavyweight and strongest cat there is. Also has teeth twice as long as the tiger and lion and stronger bite force. Plus all the good super heavyweights were taken.

[arkain]

There might be some slight structural differences between these hippo types so I'll read up on it

Still the same species though. But if you think there aren't enough SHW you can make an exception here, but I think there are enough.

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Blackfrankwhite there's still multiple rhinos available/girrafe

SHW is a limited position... High draft position rewarded the top level talent at SHW

[arkain]

How much will the Polar Bear's strength suffer if he has to fight in the damn Desert? Technically, I mean, thats way out of his comfort Zone with the climate... but all the space would suit him.

Jungle? Obvious Tiger Advantage, more agile in tigher spaces.

Imo even though you don't find Polar bears in forests, I think you can make a case that they would do fine there considering Grizzlies are in forests.

The desert is weird tbh, not a lot of animals are suited there.

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Alright fair enough we'll keep it as is.

If I bring in subspecies it will make it unbalanced to those who already picked earlier. Strategy and environment will be able to counter the top level SHW's to an extent

[arkain]

There are 5 different rhino species, 3 still available (including the biggest one). All 5 should be drafted.

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Especially if a fight is in a jungle or the desert, lighter animals will fare better and move faster (from a logical stand point with strategy involved)

[ArbitraryWater]

Ligers don't even exist in nature... they don't have that fighting blood in them. So Attribute wise they're like a cheat, good stats.. but they're created through inter species breeding, humans are responsible.

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Arb you can do your pick now because odds you are picking a HW

[KingBeasley08]

yep just keep the SHW that we got. I picked the hippo last pick in the first round. that means bunch of people passed on a perfectly good SHW. Gotta deal with the consequences of your drafting

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So blackfrankwhite/arb/arkain can all pick assuming they're not taking the same stuff. That'll be round 2 down then we can get round 3 started

[arkain]

So blackfrankwhite/arb/arkain can all pick assuming they're not taking the same stuff. That'll be round 2 down then we can get round 3 started

I'll pick after arb cause we're both looking for HWs

[ArbitraryWater]

Fukk it, I'll go with the Siberian Tiger...

arkain, the Polar Bear is yours :cheers:

50-50 call

Tiger can dominate just about every enviroment though.. especially the Siberian one :bowdown:

[Chief Keef]

Ligers don't even exist in nature... they don't have that fighting blood in them. So Attribute wise they're like a cheat, good stats.. but they're created through inter species breeding, humans are responsible.


Man made beast :applause: :bowdown:


Like Brock Lesnar :bowdown:

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Lots of evidence with both animals in regards to their brutality so can't really go wrong with either. We'll see if the Liger holds up in the judges eyes.

[arkain]

Fukk it, I'll go with the Siberian Tiger...

arkain, the Polar Bear is yours :cheers:

50-50 call

Tiger can dominate just about every enviroment though.. especially the Siberian one :bowdown:

Tough choice, made it easier for me.

I'll take the Polar Bear, the largest of all the bears!

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arkain has back to back picks

assuming Blackfrankwhite is choosing a SHW, arkain can pick his LHW

[arkain]

I'll wait for my LHW and pick my reserve HW now otherwise I may not get it when I want it.

Gorilla has two known species, so I'll take the Eastern Silverback Gorilla. Unless iTare wants the Eastern then give me Western.

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Alright

May as well do subs when we want to speed things up.

So Gorilla selected for sub (HW)

Will have to ask iTare which one he picked

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arb your up again

can either go for your LHW or your sub pick (either LHW or HW as there are not enough SHWs)