Michael Finley

[StrongLurk]

Discuss.

[GreatHILL]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/8ca9ef7cc20752c0f0cfa5d0b4a8f6c0/tumblr_mrff2twvqa1qa47iwo1_500.jpg

[QuebecBaller]

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/michael-finley-cartwheel.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIoS9ZUupI

[SCdac]

Like any player, he had his good and bad qualities. Was a shooter mostly. was streaky but could light it up when need be, had some vicious tomahawk jams. not the ideal franchise player or second option but a good player nonetheless. He helped Mavs get to 50 wins in some of Dirk's formative years. Mavs fans may have soured on him over time and during periods of losses (lots of finger-pointing happens during losses, it happens), but he was generally a professional. was solid for the Spurs in his tenure. in the 2007 playoffs he hit like 8 or 9 three's in one game and holds the Spurs record unless danny green has surpassed him. Glad Fin dog retired with a ring

http://images.usatoday.com/Wires2Web/20071031/3304500911_Portland_Spurs_Basketballx.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

dude threw away a hall of fame career to ring chase as a role player


before he got to sanantonio his career average was 19.0ppg, 5rpg, 4apg

multiple allstar games

if he made a few more he might have made it to the HOF


but he went to sanantonio and averaged 9/3/1 the rest of his career.

dipping his career average to 15/4/3





the same of a nation

might aswell change his name to jeffery butler. takin short cuts in taxi's n shit

[SCdac]

dude threw away a hall of fame career to ring chase as a role player


before he got to sanantonio his career average was 19.0ppg, 5rpg, 4apg

multiple allstar games

if he made a few more he might have made it to the HOF


but he went to sanantonio and averaged 9/3/1 the rest of his career.

dipping his career average to 15/4/3





the same of a nation

might aswell change his name to jeffery butler. takin short cuts in taxi's n shit

hall of fame career is a stretch.

to be fair, he joined the Spurs at 32 years old

[toxicxr6]

dude threw away a hall of fame career to ring chase as a role player


before he got to sanantonio his career average was 19.0ppg, 5rpg, 4apg

multiple allstar games

if he made a few more he might have made it to the HOF


but he went to sanantonio and averaged 9/3/1 the rest of his career.

dipping his career average to 15/4/3





the same of a nation

might aswell change his name to jeffery butler. takin short cuts in taxi's n shit




And you know what I would make a bet that Finley wouldn't regret his decision for even one second... There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he did.. He sacrificed some personal accomplishments to play more a team focused game.. Sure he didn't get as much glamor... But he was he a key part in winning a championship.. And that championship would be the highlight of his career by a long shot.. He wouldn't regret it for a second and I would be willing to bet most NBA players who don't win a ring.. If given that option would be happy to take the path he did...

Not suprised you disagree Kenneth.. Your a stan of one of the most selfish players in history... And that suits you perfectly

[kennethgriffin]

hall of fame career is a stretch.

to be fair, he joined the Spurs at 32 years old



1 more allstar game and 2-3 more years of legit averages. he makes it


basically 20/5/5 and 3-4 asg = HOF lock

he should have ring chased at age 35 or 36


32 is still prime

[Rake2204]

I remember Finley for his dunking prowess. I used to try to imitate his super jump stop gathers on his dunks but I could never get it right. Always felt like I was stomping the ground, but he made it work. Great dunk style.

On Dean Garrett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywY5cz42ik

On David Robinson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bkNiVo8yw

On David Robinson again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQlb6blzLZc

On Karl Malone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWYiOZiI_I

Random rare clip of him breaking the rim on a tip dunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xqRDFn6pdo

And here's what it looked like to watch a nerdy guy dunk with Finley on DreamCast with a "BooYah!" to top things off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phoQc6JGWac

[Prime_Shaq]

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/michael-finley-cartwheel.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIoS9ZUupI
:oldlol:

[inclinerator]

empty stats

[WorldWarriors]

Finley, Nash and Dirk put Dallas on the map. Made them a very entertaining team to watch playing Nellieball. He went to San Antonio and got himself a ring. Above average shooting guard but not a superstar.

[Smoke117]

Overrated on the Mavs while Dirk was getting better is my opinion. He was easily the worst of the three scoring options when Nash was there. When he averaged a career high 22.6 points in 2000...he was taking 20 shots to do it. Nuff said.

[IllegalD]

Overrated on the Mavs while Dirk was getting better is my opinion. He was easily the worst of the three scoring options when Nash was there. When he averaged a career high 22.6 points in 2000...he was taking 20 shots to do it. Nuff said.

"Overrated", yet it took the Mavs getting rid of both Finley AND Nash (more alpha and tough-minded players than Dirk), in order for meek Dirk to finally feel comfortable enough to take over the reigns as the "go to guy". And even then it still took him another 7 years to finally be the go to guy his team needed to win a chip.

Dirk couldn't even get it done with a Superstar/Multi Allstar stacked team of: Dirk, Nash, Finley, Antwan Jamison, Antoine Walker, all in their relative primes.

That's 5 Allstar Level players. (2 HOFs, 2 MVPs, three 20 & 10 Allstars)

[ImKobe]

"Overrated", yet it took the Mavs getting rid of both Finley AND Nash (more alpha and tough-minded players than Dirk), in order for meek Dirk to finally feel comfortable enough to take over the reigns as the "go to guy". And even then it still took him another 7 years to finally be the go to guy his team needed to win a chip.

Dirk couldn't even get it done with a Superstar/Multi Allstar stacked team of: Dirk, Nash, Finley, Antwan Jamison, Antoine Walker, all in their relative primes.

That's 5 Allstar Level players. (2 HOFs, 2 MVPs, three 20 & 10 Allstars)

yeah, all-stars on the OFFENSIVE end

Nash can't play D
Antoine is a black hole unless he's hot
no legit rim protector a la Tyson Chandler 2011
no veteran leadership

easy to see why they didn't win anything while there was Shaq & Kobe, Duncan & D-Rob, stacked Kings team, Portland with Pippen, Sabonis and Rasheed...

They had great teams on offense but Nash couldn't run a half court offense, he thrived in a fast-pace no defense system in PHX.

[Smoke117]

yeah, all-stars on the OFFENSIVE end

Nash can't play D
Antoine is a black hole unless he's hot
no legit rim protector a la Tyson Chandler 2011
no veteran leadership

easy to see why they didn't win anything while there was Shaq & Kobe, Duncan & D-Rob, stacked Kings team, Portland with Pippen, Sabonis and Rasheed...

They had great teams on offense but Nash couldn't run a half court offense, he thrived in a fast-pace no defense system in PHX.

You're an idiot...but this is already known.

[BasedTom]

all time great

[BIG FURB]

Overrated on the Mavs while Dirk was getting better is my opinion. He was easily the worst of the three scoring options when Nash was there. When he averaged a career high 22.6 points in 2000...he was taking 20 shots to do it. Nuff said.

During his 20+ppg scoring years he usually shot 45% or better, solid for a 2 guard. I don't see how he was overrated, he was a quality SG

[houston]

clutch good player

[ihatetimthomas]

dude threw away a hall of fame career to ring chase as a role player


before he got to sanantonio his career average was 19.0ppg, 5rpg, 4apg

multiple allstar games

if he made a few more he might have made it to the HOF


but he went to sanantonio and averaged 9/3/1 the rest of his career.

dipping his career average to 15/4/3





the same of a nation

might aswell change his name to jeffery butler. takin short cuts in taxi's n shit


You have no clue. Clearly you were not watching him at the time and just relying on his stats. He was in serious decline at that time. He was absolutely out of his prime. He was noticeably slowing down.

Michael Finley was amnestied in 2005. He did not just leave the Mavs to ring chase. Cuban waived him bc they knew he was just about done and didn't want to pay him. He had 3 years and over 50 million left on his deal. Should he have gone to one of the worst teams in the league and hope for one more all star appearance? That sounds like a really stupid idea bc honestly he wouldn't have been one. And he that wouldn't have gotten him in the HOF. But honestly, I doubt you knew he was even amnestied or are aware of situations when you post.

Finley's days for being a 20 pp. scorer were long gone after his last year in Dallas. His years of being a all star were gone. His years of putting up big stats were gone. He would have happily played out his contract with Dallas, but when he was waived, Spurs were a easy choice.

[senelcoolidge]

Good player. If anyone mentions HoF with Finley please shoot yourself. He was a good player, that's it.

[ArbitraryWater]

"Overrated", yet it took the Mavs getting rid of both Finley AND Nash (more alpha and tough-minded players than Dirk), in order for meek Dirk to finally feel comfortable enough to take over the reigns as the "go to guy". And even then it still took him another 7 years to finally be the go to guy his team needed to win a chip.

Dirk couldn't even get it done with a Superstar/Multi Allstar stacked team of: Dirk, Nash, Finley, Antwan Jamison, Antoine Walker, all in their relative primes.

That's 5 Allstar Level players. (2 HOFs, 2 MVPs, three 20 & 10 Allstars)

lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

had a 6 year peak of like 21/5/4, I always thought he was pretty good but Kobe, Iverson, Ray, T mac, Vince were better and he was at the top of the tier below them

[rmt]

Glad he got a ring with the Spurs but disliked the way he jumped ship (when they hit a rough patch) to ring-chase with the Celtics. Poor TD, TP and Manu - didn't know what to say when he told them he was going to the Celtics.

[Smoke117]

Glad he got a ring with the Spurs but disliked the way he jumped ship (when they hit a rough patch) to ring-chase with the Celtics. Poor TD, TP and Manu - didn't know what to say when he told them he was going to the Celtics.

...he was averaging 3.7pts on 3.9 shots. You'd think you'd be happy he left.

[rmt]

...he was averaging 3.7pts on 3.9 shots. You'd think you'd be happy he left.

Just don't like players jumping ship when the going gets tough. He got his ring with them and at the first sign of trouble, bails. Good thing neither TD, TP or Manu bailed during the dark days of RJ, Blair/Bonner or Spurs wouldn't have gotten their 5th ring. Gotta take the bad with the good.

[ihatetimthomas]

Just don't like players jumping ship when the going gets tough. He got his ring with them and at the first sign of trouble, bails. Good thing neither TD, TP or Manu bailed during the dark days of RJ, Blair/Bonner or Spurs wouldn't have gotten their 5th ring. Gotta take the bad with the good.

How can you compare 3 players who were drafted by the Spurs and played for one of the most successful franchises to a player who came at the end of his career who was the face of another franchise for a good portion of his career? Apples and oranges.

You are lucky to be a fan of a team with loyal players who were lucky enough to play for one of the greatest franchises in the world.

The whole negative argument towards "ring chasing" is ridiculous. Front offices are ring chasers. Teams are not loyal to players. They are worried about their bottom line. They will drop a player in a second if they see a decline, regardless of their loyalty. That's what happened with Michael Finley in Dallas. He was loyal and got dropped. What's the problem when a player does what's best for himself and interests?

[masonanddixon]

Elite power dunker who had the worst ball handling skills I have ever seen in a shooting guard

[artificial]

No one has commented on his D, which is how he got into the league. Although admittedly he didn't keep it at an elite level, he was way above average before his decline. Fairly strong all around game.

Always had a lot of respect for Finley, and loved how he played his heart out when the Mavs were one of the laughing stocks of the league, and played through the transformation of Dallas becoming a powerhouse. Class act guy in the worst times and good times. Felt pretty bad when he was cut, even though his decline was painfully clear. I was actually glad he got a ring, although I will always think of him in a Mavs uniform.

Cheers to Fin.

[Bigsmoke]

He gave me an autograph at the football field in Maywood.

[Lebron23]

He was a very good player his prime. He, Dirk, and Nash turned the Mavericks into a very good team in the late 1990's, and early 2000's.

[masonanddixon]

No one has commented on his D, which is how he got into the league. Although admittedly he didn't keep it at an elite level, he was way above average before his decline. Fairly strong all around game.

Always had a lot of respect for Finley, and loved how he played his heart out when the Mavs were one of the laughing stocks of the league, and played through the transformation of Dallas becoming a powerhouse. Class act guy in the worst times and good times. Felt pretty bad when he was cut, even though his decline was painfully clear. I was actually glad he got a ring, although I will always think of him in a Mavs uniform.

Cheers to Fin.

lol he was an atrocious defender. The worst on Dallas.

[FKAri]

yeah, all-stars on the OFFENSIVE end

Nash can't play D
Antoine is a black hole unless he's hot
no legit rim protector a la Tyson Chandler 2011
no veteran leadership

easy to see why they didn't win anything while there was Shaq & Kobe, Duncan & D-Rob, stacked Kings team, Portland with Pippen, Sabonis and Rasheed...

They had great teams on offense but Nash couldn't run a half court offense, he thrived in a fast-pace no defense system in PHX.



The best PnR point guard of his generation couldn't run a half court offense? lol ok :lol

[DMAVS41]

"Overrated", yet it took the Mavs getting rid of both Finley AND Nash (more alpha and tough-minded players than Dirk), in order for meek Dirk to finally feel comfortable enough to take over the reigns as the "go to guy". And even then it still took him another 7 years to finally be the go to guy his team needed to win a chip.

Dirk couldn't even get it done with a Superstar/Multi Allstar stacked team of: Dirk, Nash, Finley, Antwan Jamison, Antoine Walker, all in their relative primes.

That's 5 Allstar Level players. (2 HOFs, 2 MVPs, three 20 & 10 Allstars)

Anyone that actually thinks the 04 Mavs were a well built team is an idiot...sorry.

Also, your comment would make sense if 02 and 03 didn't exist prior to this.

When Dirk was the best player on those teams.

It took Nash and Finley leaving for Dirk to do what? Dirk was naturally improving as most young players do, but he was already a monster.

He was a 24/10/3 regular season player and a 26/12/2 playoff player in 02 and 03 combined.

To imply that Dirk somehow wasn't man enough to take a large role in those years is absurd. He absolutely was the "go to guy"...he just didn't have to carry as large of an offensive burden...especially in 03...because that team was absolutely loaded.

Hate on Dirk for not winning in 03...when he had a truly loaded team around him.

But hating on him for 04? Where it was just a horribly constructed team with both Nash and Finley injured/declining....that is just stupid.

But, as usual, the standards for Dirk are insanely high...especially when it comes from people claiming he wasn't "that good"....not sure what other players would get hate for 26/12/2 on 59% TS in the playoffs. Somehow that's indicative of a player just not "having it"???

Nah....Mavs just ran up against a much better team in the 02 Kings...and Dirk ran up against a better player in Duncan in 03 and he also got hurt.

[20Four]

Good player in his prime, could give you a nice poster on any given night.