Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - Countdown

[West-Side]

15 Minute Demo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB0xy74Zrj8)

2014 Extended gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4D7TG-Vup4)

Starring

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Sully

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Elena

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Nate

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Sam

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Story

Set three years after the events of UNCHARTED 3: Drake’s Deception, Nathan Drake has presumably left the world of fortune hunting behind. However, it doesn’t take long for adventure to come calling when Drake’s brother, Sam, resurfaces seeking his help to save his own life and offering an adventure Drake can’t resist.

On the hunt for Captain Henry Avery’s long-lost treasure, Sam and Drake set off to find Libertalia, the pirate utopia deep in the forests of Madagascar. UNCHARTED 4: A Thief’s End takes players on a journey around the globe, through jungle isles, urban cities and snow-capped peaks on the search for Avery’s fortune.

Thread will be regularly updated. :pimp:
Best Game In History? TBD.


Multi-Player Trailer

Released - October 27th, 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHDKnWosOyY)

PSX 2015 Trailer

Nate meeting his brother Sam; showing off the new introduction of branching dialogue. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmPDvVz3MA)

Meet Nadine - Antagonist

Nadine Ross encounter with Nathan. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02OnzheWyqo)

Nadine buys Sully a drink at the ball. (http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/32074/article/uncharted-4-nadine-ross-buys-sully-a-drink-in-new-footage/)

[nightprowler10]

http://www.unchartedthegame.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Uncharted-4_drake-leaping1.jpg

Looks like Arrow.

Really excited for this. Will easily be the best game I will have played in a while.

[West-Side]

Release Date announced.
March 18th, 2016.

Mark your calendars, folks! We

[West-Side]

Link :D (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/08/31/uncharted-4-launches-march-18th-2016-on-ps4/)

[Shade8780]

While I'm a big fan of the series, I think Uncharted is somewhat overrated. Way too many shoot-outs. Each game can be summed up as "shoot-out, venture a small bit, shoot-out, cutscene, repeat".

One of the top games of this generation? Probably, yes. Greatest game in history? Hell no.

[West-Side]

While I'm a big fan of the series, I think Uncharted is somewhat overrated. Way too many shoot-outs. Each game can be summed up as "shoot-out, venture a small bit, shoot-out, cutscene, repeat".

One of the top games of this generation? Probably, yes. Greatest game in history? Hell no.

God shut up, the gaming world would completely disagree with you.
Uncharted 2 is easily one of the greatest games ever developed.
It's also better than any single MGS title.

Proof?

GameRanking

Uncharted 2
96.43% (82 reviews)
Only Ocarina of Time, SoulCalibur, GTA V & Super Mario Galaxy are rated higher.

Phantom Pain
95.75% (10 reviews)
Expect that shit to go down.

Lets look at the next highest MGS game.

Sons of Liberty - 95.07% (62 reviews)
Guns of Patriots - 93.53% (85 reviews)
MGS 3: Subsistence - 92.97% (66 reviews)

The reason I am excited for Uncharted 4 is because Naughty Dog has two teams. The team that created Uncharted 2 also developed The Last of Us, a highly successful title. They have been working on Uncharted 4 for nearly 4 years now. That's double the time it took them to create both Uncharted 2 & TLoU.

From the footage, I have no clue how anyone can say Phantom Pain looks better. Phantom Pain might score more points because of its content and open-world but Uncharted 4's core game-play just looks way more polished to me.

You're just a silly ass MGS fan boy who has no objectivity at all. The fact that you said Uncharted 2 is by no means one of the greatest games ever developed just confirms that. Fact is the gaming world thinks otherwise and that's all that really matters.

Uncharted 2 shit on anything MGS developed and Uncharted 4 will most likely do the same; just as The Last of Us did.

All same developer.

The Last of Us - 95.70% (43 reviews)
Basically the same score as Phantom Pain with 33 more reviews.

Both of these games are better than anything coming from camp MGS; but yet, we have guys like you claiming it's "probably" just one of the better generational games.

You're clueless bud. I actually played MGS and liked the series. Completely different games; people who like action-adventure have given Uncharted a higher regard than anything from MGS. So don't be all jelly bud and wait till March 18th; the REAL greatness awaits.

Until than you guys can enjoy Phantom Pain.

Oh, one more thing homie:

Uncharted 2 - 96 (105 critics) - 8.8 (4471 game reviews)
Guns of Patriots - 94 (82 critics) - 8.7 (3300 game reviews)
Phantom Pain - 95 (25 critics) - 8.7 (287 game reviews)

The Last of Us - 95 (69 critics) - 8.9 (2991 game reviews)

I'm comparing the current gen (PS3/PS4) games here.
It's absolutely hilarious how you claim Uncharted 2 isn't one of the greatest games ever when its rank in history is top 10 among all games from all platforms including PC.

Take the "L" homie and go play some Phantom Pain.
Enjoy. :cheers:

[Shade8780]

tldr

when has anyone ever based a game's quality on game ranking? :roll: Only now because it fits your agenda. MGS is agreed to be the greatest gaming franchise ever by most people and has better scores on IGN and Gamespot, if we want to look at public opinion.

maybe base your argument on your opinion though, and not others. what's so special about uncharted? it's good, but it's not amazing. MGS beats it with its story, gameplay which is amazing because of fox engine, amount of things to do, online etc

you're defending this series as if you work for naughty dog. in fact, you've been posting nothing but negative stuff about MGS 5 in its thread to make you feel better about your precious uncharted games.

[West-Side]

tldr

when has anyone ever based a game's quality on game ranking? :roll: Only now because it fits your agenda. MGS is agreed to be the greatest gaming franchise ever by most people and has better scores on IGN and Gamespot, if we want to look at public opinion.

maybe base your argument on your opinion though, and not others. what's so special about uncharted? it's good, but it's not amazing. MGS beats it with its story, gameplay which is amazing because of fox engine, amount of things to do, online etc

you're defending this series as if you work for naughty dog. in fact, you've been posting nothing but negative stuff about MGS 5 in its thread to make you feel better about your precious uncharted games.

We have difference preference though.
So the only objective way to measure which game is better is by looking at how critics view the game and the players who enjoy their respective genre.

Uncharted is an action-adventure and MGS is more like a stealth-shooter. Completely different genre.

The fact that you said MGS beats Uncharted's story just solidifies how biased you really are. Both games have terrific stories. Uncharted is known for its ability to perfectly characterize its characters and present an incredible enriching story as well. MGS focuses more on the shock factor. Their story is over the top insane but it's very intriguing.

Guns of Patriots sold 5.97 million copies.
Uncharted 2 sold 6.61 million copies.
The Last of Us sold 8.78 million copies (on PS3 & PS4).
They sold 5.60 million copies and the game was only released 2 years ago.

Uncharted 2 was released before Guns of Patriots.
So you're saying GOP is better yet it has lower critic scores, lower user scores and sold less copies.

Yeah your argument is definitely solidified. :oldlol:
Keep to your subjective opinion, the consensus is pretty straight forward however: Both TLoU and U2 are considered better games than any MGS to date.

Both of those games were developed by the same team that's developing U4.
You do the math.

[West-Side]

The fact that you don't think Uncharted 2 is an amazing game just solidifies your bias to me.

Uncharted is notorious for three things on the PS3.

- Best graphics
- Best characterization
- Best story-driven game (besides maybe TLOU)

GOP simply wasn't as highly regarded on the PS3 and none of the previous titles (besides MGS2) is even considered on the same tier of greatness.

Again, I'm basing this on users who enjoy those type of games.
The players that love MGS rated THOSE games and gave them a lower score than the users who enjoy playing Uncharted.

You trying to downgrade Uncharted to suit your personal opinion is pretty sad. Nathan Drake is pretty much the most popular protagonist during the PS3 era for a good reason.

[West-Side]

Best game this generation? Critics sure think so, can't wait till next Friday.
The scores are insane, despite 3-4 sites giving this game between 75-85; it is still 3rd highest rated game right now behind Uncharted 2 & GTA 4.

The amount of 100's this game is getting is insane, it's on pace to have the most perfect scores in current gen's history.

GTA 4 (48/86) 56% [definitely most overrated game in history, should have gotten around 94 overall score. San Andreas got 95 )
Uncharted 2 (39/105) 37%
Uncharted 3 (24/97) 25%
Red Dead Redemption (20/73) 27%
BioShock (34/88) 39%
BioShock Infinite (10/33) 30%
Arkham City (16/42) 38%
Mass Effect 2 (30/98) 31%
Skyrim (32/89) 36%
Guns of the Patriots (31/82) 38%
Gears of War (19/88) 22%
Halo 3 (20/86) 23%


The Last Of Us (30/61) 49%

Another poster made this post a couple of years ago.

[West-Side]

[QUOTE]First off, I'll say one thing: best game, I have ever played in my life. No over-exaggeration, no "in-the-moment" flavor of the week feel to it; I have played this game for the first time ten months ago and just recently was undergoing chronicle boredom and decided to play a video game to kill time for a few hours; I ended up playing for thirteen hours until ten in the morning next day. Called in sick at seven in the morning after realizing how long I've played this game...

The game is brilliantly paced; you'll simultaneously shift form platform and traversal, to melee & gun play, to stealth, to puzzle solving seamlessly. Game's strongest features are its plot and brilliant technology. The visuals and audio are second to none in this game, I truly mean it. Rich audio accents compliment the visuals perfectly, not only making the loud sections boom, but also filling the quiet sections with deep aural details. Everything that can make a sound does: pipes, waterfalls, electrical wires, loose pottery, animals, distant gunfire. The vistas are breathtaking in this game and the details to the smallest of items (example: foot prints) is meticulous.
Everything is top notch but the most intriguing part about the game is its groundbreaking cut scenes. The way the game seamlessly transitions the player from game play to cut scenes is remarkable; cut scenes are so fascinating that you will never try to skip them. Oh and those graphics are ran at 720p; not even the highest resolution available to us these days. I won't go into details; I'll let you guys experience it for yourselves. All I have to say is whether you're running on the roof of a moving train or getting hit by another car; you feel the adrenaline as if you are really there, experiencing survival first hand...fighting for your life.

The icing on the cake is definitely the sound. Explosions to footsteps to the flutter of a bird

[Shade8780]

Do you really expect me to read all that shit?

Fvck outta here. I agree that U2 is one of the best games of the last generation, but its story is always "find artifact, shoot some bad guys, and kill cursed boss at the end". MGS goes way in depth and has a story that will send a message home and blows your mind every damn time. It's amazing how you think Uncharted has a much better story then any MGS game.

What MGS have you played as a matter of interest? Snake Eater is the only game that put me on the verge of tears. That whole game is absolutely incredible. Uncharted doesn't leave that lasting effect on me, but I have fun playing it.

Also, I consider The Last of Us to be overrated too. Great fvxking game, but not the greatest as it's said to be.

Why did you bring them up anyway. I was talking about U4 and you started acting like I said something bad about all of Naughty Dog's properties.

[Shade8780]

The fact that you're picking out the best reviews to prove your point is hilarious. I could pick out a good review for NBA Live 14 and say that it's a great game because of that.

[Shade8780]

Me: Uncharted 4 won't be the greatest game ever

You: God shut up, how dare you insult GOATcharted 2

Are you two years old? Are you mad because I don't have the same opinion as you? Grow the fvxk up.

[West-Side]

Do you really expect me to read all that shit?

Fvck outta here. I agree that U2 is one of the best games of the last generation, but its story is always "find artifact, shoot some bad guys, and kill cursed boss at the end". MGS goes way in depth and has a story that will send a message home and blows your mind every damn time. It's amazing how you think Uncharted has a much better story then any MGS game.

What MGS have you played as a matter of interest? Snake Eater is the only game that put me on the verge of tears. That whole game is absolutely incredible. Uncharted doesn't leave that lasting effect on me, but I have fun playing it.

Also, I consider The Last of Us to be overrated too. Great fvxking game, but not the greatest as it's said to be.

Why did you bring them up anyway. I was talking about U4 and you started acting like I said something bad about all of Naughty Dog's properties.

I brought up ND's other games for a specific reason, as I've already explained to you. But my guess is you aren't aware of their team so I'll explain again. ND has two teams, they work on a project basis. The team that created Uncharted 2 and TLoU are the same team that is developing Uncharted 4. The other team developed Drake Fortune and Drake's Deception.

Why were you excited about Phantom Pain like a year ago? Because you expected greatness, right? Because they have never disappointed you.

I feel the same way about Uncharted 4 and from the gameplay (and everything else I've read about the game) it will be spectacular. I really have no doubt. That's why I brought up the other two games and the acclaim they received from both critics and players.

I think MGS is extremely overrated and it comes from the fact that I've barely beaten any of them, besides Snake Eater and MGS 2. I just don't like slow paced games involving stealth, so that's where our preference differ.

You've explained how you think both U2 & TLoU are overrated and I have similar sentiments towards MGS.

So you "laughed" at me when I said Uncharted 4 will be better than Phantom Pain. Using average critic ratings and average ratings given to these respective games by the users is the only real way we can objectively measure the success of those games, right?

I mean, we can debate all day long by sharing our subjective opinions and claim "MGS is better than Uncharted, and vice versa."

That type of debate won't get us anywhere, really.


The fact that you're picking out the best reviews to prove your point is hilarious. I could pick out a good review for NBA Live 14 and say that it's a great game because of that.

This post doesn't even make sense.
I posted the AVERAGE scores from both critics and users for all the games. I didn't just "choose" high scores for Uncharted 2.

The fact is, both U2 & TLoU had more reviews than any MGS title to date. They STILL have a higher score from BOTH critics and users than any MGS title to date. As we both know, the more reviews a movie or a game gets from critics or users; the rating usually drops.

I've simply used sales revenue, critic scores and user scores to demonstrate to you why I feel as though Uncharted 4 will be better than Phantom Pain and any other MGS game.

Once again, Uncharted 2 & TLoU are two games that Naughty Dog has developed that are better than any MGS in history.

I love when fan-boys get upset when I bring up these scores.
This is actually a very objective way to evaluate which game is better; omitting preferential bias.

Hope you're enjoying Phantom Pain bruh.

[Rose]

While I'm a big fan of the series, I think Uncharted is somewhat overrated. Way too many shoot-outs. Each game can be summed up as "shoot-out, venture a small bit, shoot-out, cutscene, repeat".

One of the top games of this generation? Probably, yes. Greatest game in history? Hell no.
Exactly.

And the random as hell third party in every game. Zombies, Yeti, and Djinns. Happens in a game? That's fine. Happens in two games? Okay....happens in 3 games? :facepalm

Really good 9/10 games even 10/10 games, but definitely not GOAT.

[Shade8780]

I brought up ND's other games for a specific reason, as I've already explained to you. But my guess is you aren't aware of their team so I'll explain again. ND has two teams, they work on a project basis. The team that created Uncharted 2 and TLoU are the same team that is developing Uncharted 4. The other team developed Drake Fortune and Drake's Deception.

Why were you excited about Phantom Pain like a year ago? Because you expected greatness, right? Because they have never disappointed you.

I feel the same way about Uncharted 4 and from the gameplay (and everything else I've read about the game) it will be spectacular. I really have no doubt. That's why I brought up the other two games and the acclaim they received from both critics and players.
More important than "teams" is the lead director/writer of a game. That being Amy Hennig for Uncharted 1/2/3. She's essentially the mastermind behind the trilogy's success, and now she's gone. That's not a good thing.

If we're comparing to MGS, that's similar to Kojima leaving Konami. I wouldn't have much faith at all in a Kojima-less MGS game.

[West-Side]

More important than "teams" is the lead director/writer of a game. That being Amy Hennig for Uncharted 1/2/3. She's essentially the mastermind behind the trilogy's success, and now she's gone. That's not a good thing.

If we're comparing to MGS, that's similar to Kojima leaving Konami. I wouldn't have much faith at all in a Kojima-less MGS game.

No it's not educate yourself about Amy before speaking.
She had NO part in The Last of Us at all, and look at the game's success.

TLoU
Directors of TLoU: Bruce Straley & Neil Druckmann
Writer & Designer: Neil Druckmann

Amy had NO PART in developing TLoU.

Uncharted 2
Directors: Bruce Straley & Amy Henning
Designers: Neil Druckmann
Writers: Neil Druckmann & Amy Henning

In fact, both Bruce & Neil were LEADS in Uncharted 2 & TLoU. :oldlol:
And Uncharted 2 is (in most eyes) the best Uncharted out of the three.

Surprisingly, Amy was the LEAD for Drake's Deception and Drake's Fortune; two great games but are simply not on the level of Uncharted 2 or TLoU.

Go research those facts, I know what I'm talking about.
Amy was the lead in both U1 & U3; Bruce was not involved.

Josh Scherr was Amy's partner during Drake's Deception.
Neil Druckmann was Amy's partner during Drake's Fortune.

The mastermind (aka Kojima) is actually Bruce Straley and to an extent Neil Druckmann.

Neil was the DESIGNER for all 4 games and also the director.
Amy was the director and writer, but she was only the lead for U1 & U3.

However, it's ironic how the two best games ND has produced were when Bruce was the director of the project. Amy had no part in TLoU at all and yet it's arguably the most successful game from Naughty Dog.

So again, you're off the page bruh.

[West-Side]

You guessed it, Bruce & Neil are the LEADS of Uncharted 4.
They actually (just two months ago) hired two of the best developers in the business to help them "polish" the levels a bit. :applause:

Quit fact: Naughty Dog chose to let go of Amy because she had a difference of opinion regarding the direction of Uncharted 4 with Bruce & Neil.

Seeing as how Bruce & Neil were leads in ND's best selling titles in history; I'd say they made the right choice.

But yes, I'm by no means saying that Amy wasn't a huge part of the team. I'm just saying this is no where near the same as Kojima leaving bro. Bruce is the real mastermind of Naughty Dog.

[West-Side]

Bruce Straley is an American game director, artist and designer for the video game developer Naughty Dog, known for his work in the video games The Last of Us and Uncharted 4: A Thief's End. Straley's first video game work was as an artist at Western Technologies Inc, where he worked on two titles. Following this, he worked as a designer on titles for different companies, prior to his employment at Crystal Dynamics, where he worked as a designer on Gex: Enter the Gecko and Gex 3: Deep Cover Gecko.

Straley was employed at Naughty Dog in 1999. He worked as an artist on Crash Team Racing and the Jak and Daxter series. Following this, he became co-art director on Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, and was appointed to game director of Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. He was later chosen to lead development on The Last of Us as game director, a role he continued during the development of Uncharted 4: A Thief's End. Straley has received praise for his work. In particular, his work on The Last of Us was highly praised, and the game received several awards and nominations.


More Success?

Bruce as director.
Uncharted 2: 6.61 million sales - 96 critic rating - 88 user rating
TLoU: 8.80 million sales - 95 critic rating - 91 user rating

Amy as director.
Drake's Fortune: 4.86 million sales - 88 critic rating - 82 user rating
Drake's Deception: 6.70 million sales - 92 critic rating - 83 user rating

[West-Side]

Exactly.

And the random as hell third party in every game. Zombies, Yeti, and Djinns. Happens in a game? That's fine. Happens in two games? Okay....happens in 3 games? :facepalm

Really good 9/10 games even 10/10 games, but definitely not GOAT.

Because MGS isn't over the line retarded with their villains. :roll:
You get attached to the characters in Uncharted the same way you do in MGS.
Both games are legendary in their own regard.

I could also write an essay about things that I don't like about MGS, but the point is: me and you guys have different preferences.

So lets just leave at there.
Hope you guys are enjoying PP.

[nightprowler10]

This is the most retarded discussion ever. Whenever you're comparing two excellent games, what you take away from a game is solely based on your personal preference.

Also, understand that you're claiming a game that has not yet been released will be the GOAT. What?

[West-Side]

This is the most retarded discussion ever. Whenever you're comparing two excellent games, what you take away from a game is solely based on your personal preference.

Also, understand that you're claiming a game that has not yet been released will be the GOAT. What?

Come one dude, somethings you just know.
When's the last time Grand Theft Auto wasn't exceptional?
Even the worst games like GTA 4 or 5 were still very good.

Every time we hear about a MGS title or Mass Effect or Zelda etc. they just don't disappoint, why?

Because it's a proven formula.
It's a series those developers take pride in and already have a sound foundation for building a kick ass game. That's why I fully expected GTA V to get great reviews, or Uncharted 3, or Phantom Pain.

I am considering the developer (Naughty Dog), mixing in their working formula and projecting that Uncharted 4 will blow people's minds.

The game-play looks insane; the fact that the developers at ND are taking over FOUR full fiscal periods to develop this game tells me it's going to be spectacular. It took them less than two years to develop U2 & U3 and only 30 months to develop TLoU from scratch. Uncharted 4's been in development for nearly 4 years.

It's an educated guess.
It's not like I'm predicting a completely new IP is going to be the GOAT here; it's a proven formula.

[plowking]

tldr

MGS is agreed to be the greatest gaming franchise ever by most people and has better scores on IGN and Gamespot, if we want to look at public opinion.

So is Uncharted. Widely regarded as one of, if not, the greatest.


what's so special about uncharted? it's good, but it's not amazing.

Actually, it is regarded as amazing. Praise from both the media and gamers alike.


you're defending this series as if you work for naughty dog. in fact, you've been posting nothing but negative stuff about MGS 5 in its thread to make you feel better about your precious uncharted games.

They're both great. You're an idiot of you have some faboyism to either. I get you're young and hop on any hype train easily, but most of us are older and actually play for enjoyment, and not make half assed, safe posts like:

what's so special about uncharted? it's good, but it's not amazing.

... Such a vague comment, yet you wouldn't be able to tell us what is so regular, or not special about Uncharted.

[GIF REACTION]

Shade doesn't understand the notion of genre

Lots of shoot outs? Wow. I'm shocked. A 3rd person shooter with lots of shooting? This is crazy. I'm absolutely surprised.

It's like saying MGS is bad because you are sneaking around 99% of the time. Wow. A stealth game with lots of sneaking? This is crazy. I'm absolutely surprised.

Believe it or not Shade, games like Halo and Uncharted are just as tactical as MGS. Even better, they don't force it like MGS does. Go play Halo 2 on legendary. You won't need fancy features and abilities to be tactical. The shear game design, difficulty and AI will force you to adapt.

IMO, fancy features is a cheap way to advance strategy. Games like Halo has always let the core of the game dictate play style and strategy.

[Rose]

Because MGS isn't over the line retarded with their villains. :roll:
You get attached to the characters in Uncharted the same way you do in MGS.
Both games are legendary in their own regard.

I could also write an essay about things that I don't like about MGS, but the point is: me and you guys have different preferences.

So lets just leave at there.
Hope you guys are enjoying PP.
I've literally never played MGS/did not mention it.

MGS living rent free in your head.:roll:

[Shade8780]

rent free

[GIF REACTION]

Shooters win again

rent free

[Thorpesaurous]

I put in my pre-order for the big special edition thing last week when I order the remastered series.

The remastered games have a super duper easy setting that's described as "For those who just want to see the game.", which has made this a great addition to my nieces library of gaming experiences.

[West-Side]

I put in my pre-order for the big special edition thing last week when I order the remastered series.

The remastered games have a super duper easy setting that's described as "For those who just want to see the game.", which has made this a great addition to my nieces library of gaming experiences.

Have you tried the "Brutal" difficulty yet??
I want to know how much harder it is than crushing difficulty.

[Thorpesaurous]

Have you tried the "Brutal" difficulty yet??
I want to know how much harder it is than crushing difficulty.


I have not. I've mostly just let my niece play. I started her with 2.

[Ai2death]

Shit just got up to date with this thread, Can't wait for Uncharted 4!!!! Just bought the Remastered collection to play no. 1 as i never had and play through 2 & 3 another dozen times! Easily my fav series.

Also, mad props to West Side, has all the facts and figures backing up a point.

You da real MVP!

[West-Side]

I beat Drake's Fortune on Crushing and started on "Brutal".
Chapter 4 - Plane Wrecked, is probably the most difficult mission I have ever played (on brutal).
It's actually the toughest mission out of all the missions in all 3 Uncharted games. It's not even close, I don't understand why it's such an early mission. The enemies just flank you and your either must know the perfect spot for cover or you get headshots on all of them to survive.

Brutal is no joke; you can get killed off 1 shot and the enemy could be shooting from long ass distance. This will challenge me more-so than any other game ever has.

[GIF REACTION]

This game should be good but it has nothing on Halo 5.

[Thorpesaurous]

I played some last night with my niece, and she just got to about Chapter 15 in II, which is where you finish the train sequence, have the train crash, and circle back around to where you started, and the game up to that point has really been a dreamy memory of what's happened. She was super pumped. It just kind of hit her all at once. Then we woke up, walked through the village, pet the cow, played soccer and hide and seek with the kids, and turned it off right at the start of the ice cave with the Abominable Snowmen monsters, which I'm excited to play with her.

[Ai2death]

This game should be good but it has nothing on Halo 5.

Nothing better to do then troll eh. :rolleyes:

[outbreak]

I thought it was meant to be out this year? Any way I just picked up the collection and will start on it tonight, haven't played through all of the original games before but I've enjoyed the ones I have played but don't remember them that well.

[Ai2death]

I thought it was meant to be out this year? Any way I just picked up the collection and will start on it tonight, haven't played through all of the original games before but I've enjoyed the ones I have played but don't remember them that well.

Funny story.... I pre-ordered what i thought was Uncharted 4 with teh Uncharted Collection in one pack. I was super keen, got the call, it was ready to collect...

Went to collect it, saw fliers for Uncharted 4 releasing March 2016, it was then that i had realized my error haha. It was a bit embarrassing, I've been a gamer forever and thought i was pretty up to date on stuff. But yeah haha

[nightprowler10]

Funny story.... I pre-ordered what i thought was Uncharted 4 with teh Uncharted Collection in one pack. I was super keen, got the call, it was ready to collect...

Went to collect it, saw fliers for Uncharted 4 releasing March 2016, it was then that i had realized my error haha. It was a bit embarrassing, I've been a gamer forever and thought i was pretty up to date on stuff. But yeah haha
:oldlol:

Did you feel ashamed and buy it anyway?

[outbreak]

Playing uncharted makes me wonder why the gunplay in the last of us feels so shit compared to uncharted.

[Heavincent]

Playing uncharted makes me wonder why the gunplay in the last of us feels so shit compared to uncharted.

Um, what? TLoU has some of the best gunplay in a third person shooter ever.

[outbreak]

Um, what? TLoU has some of the best gunplay in a third person shooter ever.
Lol you are joking right? The gunplay and ai was terrible in tlou. I've heard people say it was made sub par and loose to encourage stealth but the stealth was a let down due to ai and forced ocmbat sections so i doubt that. Uncharted always had its gameplay done much better.

[Shade8780]

hey west-side

look at ign's new top 100

mgs 3 #25
mgs #41




uncharted 2 #47
the last of us #48

:roll:

[GIF REACTION]

Halo 2 sliding in at number 9 though

WIN

[Heavincent]

hey west-side

look at ign's new top 100

mgs 3 #25
mgs #41




uncharted 2 #47
the last of us #48

:roll:

IGN is kind of a joke though. Not exactly gospel.

[Heavincent]

Lol you are joking right? The gunplay and ai was terrible in tlou.

It really wasn't. It was fantastic.

[Heavincent]

hey west-side

look at ign's new top 100

mgs 3 #25
mgs #41




uncharted 2 #47
the last of us #48

:roll:

TLoU being so low is criminal. What it did for storytelling in video games cannot be understated.

It's the GOAT.

[GIF REACTION]

Halo 1 and 2 are the GOATs

Like Jordan in his prime

They tick all the boxes

[Shade8780]

IGN is kind of a joke though. Not exactly gospel.
well, they are the biggest, most popular site in gaming reviews. and ign ratings and critic reviews were all west-side used to prove his point earlier.

[Shade8780]

TLoU being so low is criminal. What it did for storytelling in video games cannot be understated.

It's the GOAT.
i can see why some might love it, but i think it's a bit overrated. story doesn't do as much for me as others.

and we both know who the king of stealth is ;)

[Shade8780]

Halo 1 and 2 are the GOATs

Like Jordan in his prime

They tick all the boxes
played the first mission of halo pc yesterday.

shit's basic af :roll:

[nightprowler10]

i can see why some might love it, but i think it's a bit overrated. story doesn't do as much for me as others.

and we both know who the king of stealth is ;)
I didn't know you were a Splinter Cell fan.

[GIF REACTION]

Halo 1 and Halo 2

Gamechangers.

[Ai2death]

Can we please get this thread back on track as the count down for the new uncharted, slash Uncharted/Naughty Dog discussion.

Not for you guys to have your pissy little whinge fest which has been done to absolute death.

Halo 1/2 as the goat? puh-leese, its not even intelligent debate, just bloody trolling. If we are going off topic, at least be intelligent.

PS. IGN might be one of the most popular gaming sites, but their scores are shit. Look at other popular stuff that is shit: Iphone, beats by dre & justin bieber. Just cause it's popular doesn't mean they have a clue as the general public is filled with idiots like GIFREACTION

[outbreak]

i can see why some might love it, but i think it's a bit overrated. story doesn't do as much for me as others.

and we both know who the king of stealth is ;)

It's easily one of the most over rated games of all time, has some major issues and the story is just a flat out mish mash of existing stories. Nothing is original or ground breaking except for the acting and production values. It's a great game don't get me wrong and I enjoyed it, but it's just infuriating when fan boys won't admit it's flaws. Then they turn around and say anyone who doesn't like it is an xbox fanboy and can't accept that other people value different aspects of games (game play is important regardless of how pretty a game is) and didn't enjoy something as much as they did.

Halo 2 is over rated as **** too, the single player campaign was a huge let down but again xbox fan boys won't admit it's flaws. The only halo game that was truly a great game was the first one.

Back on topic I'm really glad they did this uncharted collection, it's great value and a really good lead up to uc4. People are complaining about the re-releases this generation but if you don't like them don't buy them, so far I've enjoyed the ones I've bought. I hope they do a mass effect collection as well and I'm disappointed that microsoft's gears remake is only the first game.

Did other people see the UC4 demo from a few weeks back where they slipped up and mentioned assests from "the first last of us" then got all fumbled making it likely there's a sequel in the works?

[Heavincent]

It's easily one of the most over rated games of all time, has some major issues and the story is just a flat out mish mash of existing stories. Nothing is original or ground breaking except for the acting and production values. It's a great game don't get me wrong and I enjoyed it, but it's just infuriating when fan boys won't admit it's flaws. Then they turn around and say anyone who doesn't like it is an xbox fanboy and can't accept that other people value different aspects of games (game play is important regardless of how pretty a game is) and didn't enjoy something as much as they did.


Gameplay is extremely important, so it's a good thing TLoU has great gameplay as well.

Anyone who says it wasn't ground breaking in terms of storytelling is lying to themselves. There has never been a video game story of that quality. It's a well told story by ANY standard, not just video game standards.

[outbreak]

Gameplay is extremely important, so it's a good thing TLoU has great gameplay as well.

Anyone who says it wasn't ground breaking in terms of storytelling is lying to themselves. There has never been a video game story of that quality. It's a well told story by ANY standard, not just video game standards.
The way it told the story was groundbreaking, the actual storyline was incredibly predictable and just a bunch of existing movies/books rolled in to one.

[Heavincent]

The way it told the story was groundbreaking, the actual storyline was incredibly predictable and just a bunch of existing movies/books rolled in to one.

Who cares? Most great TV shows and movies of the 21st century are based on shit that's been done a million times. The Sopranos is a show about the mob in the NY/NJ area...cool. That was done 30 years beforehand. True Detective season 1 is essentially a buddy cop show. Etc. Both shows are filled with cliches from their respective genres. Does it matter? No.

Characters and the way the story is told is a million times more important than the overarching plot.

[outbreak]

Who cares? Most great TV shows and movies of the 21st century are based on shit that's been done a million times. The Sopranos is a show about the mob in the NY/NJ area...cool. That was done 30 years beforehand. True Detective season 1 is essentially a buddy cop show. Etc. Both shows are filled with cliches from their respective genres. Does it matter? No.

Characters and the way the story is told is a million times more important than the overarching plot.
We get it your a ps fanboy move on.

[Heavincent]

We get it your a ps fanboy move on.

Great argument.

I didn't even own a PS3 last generation.

[outbreak]

Great argument.

I didn't even own a PS3 last generation.
Well you clearly have some insecurities about other people not agreeing with your opinion on a video game.

[GIF REACTION]

Halo 1 and 2 school any of the games mentioned ITT

It's not even up for debate

It's just cool to hate on Halo these days

If you babies were alive back then, you would have known the hype

A game franchise that CARRIED AND SAVED a WHOLE console.

[Heavincent]

Well you clearly have some insecurities about other people not agreeing with your opinion on a video game.

I don't know how you got that vibe. You're the one getting all pissy.

[outbreak]

Halo 1 and 2 school any of the games mentioned ITT

It's not even up for debate

It's just cool to hate on Halo these days

If you babies were alive back then, you would have known the hype

A game franchise that CARRIED AND SAVED a WHOLE console.
The problemwith halo was if you had a pc there were other games doing what halo did just as well or better.

[outbreak]

I don't know how you got that vibe. You're the one getting all pissy.
Ffs move on already

[West-Side]

GameRankings All-Time Best

Uncharted 2 - 96.43% [82 reviews]
7th best rated game of all-time
The Last Of Us - 95.70% [43 reviews]
19th best rated game of all-time

MGS 2: Sons of Liberty - 95.09% [68 reviews]
26th best rated game of all-time
Guns of the Patriots - 93.53% [85 reviews]
Metal Gear Solid - 93.24% [29 reviews]
MGS 3: Subsistence - 92.97% [66 reviews]

:confusedshrug:

IGN gave Uncharted 2 a 95, Uncharted 3 a 100 & TLOU a 100.

You picking random articles from a perspective of a SINGLE writer from a website is pathetic and demonstrates how stupid you truly are.

Fact is, TLOU & U2 has better overall critic scores & user scores than the best MGS title out there. Both games won GOTY.

Heck, I read an article on IGN last year where they rated the best PS3 titles. Uncharted 2 & TLOU were top 3, Sons of Patriots didn't even make top 20. :oldlol:



On Metacritic

Uncharted 2 - 96 [23rd best all-time]
88% user score
Sons of Liberty - 96 [37th all-time]
87% user score
The Last Of Us - 95 [49th all-time]
91% user score
MGS V: Phantom Pain - 95 [57th all-time]
72% user score

These are aggregates scores comparing games from all the critics that reviewed them respectively, and I've even added the scores USERS of these games gave each title.

Stay mad bruh. :oldlol:

[West-Side]

Phantom Pain - 91.62% [54 reviews]

On GameRankings. :roll:

[West-Side]

well, they are the biggest, most popular site in gaming reviews. and ign ratings and critic reviews were all west-side used to prove his point earlier.

No I didn't you dipshit. :oldlol:
I always used averaged critic scores, which makes the most sense when comparing games. Not one particular article written by ONE editor.

:rolleyes:

For example.

http://ca.ign.com/top/modern-games/30

Here's an article from IGN that rates Uncharted 2 the 7th best modern game of all-time, and Guns of Patriots doesn't even make the top 30 list.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/02/07/colin-moriartys-top-25-games-of-all-time?page=1

Here's an article that ranks TLOU as the 6th best game of ALL-TIME, MGS 2 is rated 22nd on this list.

http://ca.ign.com/top/games-of-a-generation/59

Guns of Patriots #59
Uncharted 2 #11
The Last of Us #3

These are all articles written by IGN.
It's a stupid way to evaluate two games though. It's written by either 1 editor or by a group of workers for a company.

It's far more telling if you evaluate the aggregate scores from a plethora of websites. Which is what sites like metacritic and gamerankings actually do.

[GIF REACTION]

Halo 1 97 on Metacritic - 68 reviews

But that doesn't do it justice

Halo's gaming industry impact was GOAT tier... literally brought to life the Xbox console and made it a legit contender to Playstation. You need more than stats to be GOAT tier. You need Real world IMPACT.

[GIF REACTION]

Gamerankings is shit

Halo 1's score on there is flawed because they have a handful of reviews from 2004/2005, when the game came out in 2001. The gaming industry is constantly evolving in capabilities, graphics and function.... Games need to be judged in their respective era, from the critical stand point (reviews/scores) and the Real World Impact...

When you carry a console on your back, you know that game is GOAT tier.

[Shade8780]

Gameplay is extremely important, so it's a good thing TLoU has great gameplay as well.

Anyone who says it wasn't ground breaking in terms of storytelling is lying to themselves. There has never been a video game story of that quality. It's a well told story by ANY standard, not just video game standards.
i've done this to death, but it was not groundbreaking by any means. mgs 3 made me way more emotional, had better characters, and mgs 2 blew my mind. tlou did neither. it was just a cool post-apocalyptic game to me, not the messiah of all gaming.

[Shade8780]

west-side, fvck off and die. im stupid because i can form an opinion of my own?

[Shade8780]

uncharted and tlou are more widely-acclaimed because they're easier to understand for simple minded imbeciles like you. for anyone who can appreciate mgs and how deep they really are, they blow indiana jones and zombie game out of the park. it's really not even a contest.

[West-Side]

west-side, fvck off and die. im stupid because i can form an opinion of my own?

https://media.giphy.com/media/Le7SZwGosyvdK/giphy.gif

[West-Side]

uncharted and tlou are more widely-acclaimed because they're easier to understand for simple minded imbeciles like you. for anyone who can appreciate mgs and how deep they really are, they blow indiana jones and zombie game out of the park. it's really not even a contest.

https://media.giphy.com/media/11IPXDbYmRRNwk/giphy.gif

You got owned son, go eat dick.

[Shade8780]

very insightful response dickhead

go back to the ign forums where you belong

[Shade8780]

wow another very creative and interesting response from west-side.

"muh reviews say der better so u got owned"

[West-Side]

i've done this to death, but it was not groundbreaking by any means. mgs 3 made me way more emotional, had better characters, and mgs 2 blew my mind. tlou did neither. it was just a cool post-apocalyptic game to me, not the messiah of all gaming.

[QUOTE]Empire writes:

[Shade8780]

IGN gave Uncharted 2 a 95, Uncharted 3 a 100 & TLOU a 100.
Just shows how credible they are. Uncharted 3 better than 2? lmfao.

Let's look at other IGN reviews

MGS: 98
MGS 2: 97
MGS 3: 98
MGS 4: 100
MGS V: 100

Didn't really think that through did you? Even then, 4 and V are still not as good as the first 3, yet they have higher scores.

lol you get owned eat a dick

[Shade8780]

I still don't know what you think of the game. The better question would be, have you played it? Because you clearly can't speak for yourself.

"Best characterization of all-time"

:roll:

This is too much. Seriously, how many games have you actually played all the way through? Three? Four?

[West-Side]

[QUOTE]There are video games that transcend their medium. They transport you into a different world that is so engrossing, it actually starts feeling real to you. Though these game worlds are few and far between (think Rapture from the original Bioshock as another example), when they happen, they stick with you. Not just for days or for weeks, but for life. Much in the same way a favorite book or favorite song would. It just settles down in your soul and never leaves. When I look upon my last twenty years of gaming, I genuinely believe no game has achieved that quite as perfectly as Last Of Us did. From the scares to the combat to the pacing and narrative, Last Of Us might just be the single greatest game ever made.

I actually had someone close to me lend me this game after they beat it under ONE condition: they could come over and watch me play the first hour. Anyone who has played this game can tell you why she wanted to watch me play. That first twenty minutes of this game pretty much puts all of Hollywood to shame. Unsure what is going on, you rush out with your daughter to try to escape the impending catastrophe, only to have her shot dead in your arms. You had spent five minutes with the girl, but even as a gamer, you felt crushed, defeated.

And that was just the intro, for Christ

[Shade8780]

Woah! He actually CARED about a character?

GOAT! NO CONTEST!

You're unbelievable.

[Shade8780]

This is the first time in the history of the internet that someone has actually used GameRankings as a legitimate source for reviews. Metacritic is just as bad.

[West-Side]

Just shows how credible they are. Uncharted 3 better than 2? lmfao.

Let's look at other IGN reviews

MGS: 98
MGS 2: 97
MGS 3: 98
MGS 4: 100
MGS V: 100

Didn't really think that through did you? Even then, 4 and V are still not as good as the first 3, yet they have higher scores.

lol you get owned eat a dick

You just proved my point dumbass.
Uncharted 3 is rated higher than Uncharted 2 on IGN. :oldlol:
Clearly an inferior game to its predecessor.

I don't think I've ever met a dumber person in my life.
When you consider all the sources and combine their views on each of the games; both TLOU & U2 have higher scores than the BEST MGS game to date.

Both from a critic and user perspective.

[West-Side]

This is the first time in the history of the internet that someone has actually used GameRankings as a legitimate source for reviews. Metacritic is just as bad.

It's a website that simply combines all the reviews. :oldlol:
Are you a moron???

No one uses gamerankings as a SOURCE.
It's a website dedicated to collecting sources from the internet and giving you a summary for a particular game.

How many times did your mom drop you on your head when your were little?

[Shade8780]

All I had to do was google one of the hundreds of positive reviews and copy/paste some of the things said about the game. :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKGqNWKhxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=napjMrAx0KQ&t=44m43s

[Shade8780]

It's a website that simply combines all the reviews. :oldlol:
Are you a moron???

No one uses gamerankings as a SOURCE.
It's a website dedicated to collecting sources from the internet and giving you a summary for a particular game.

How many times did your mom drop you on your head when your were little?
They combine reviews from mostly shitty sites that no one cares about and like GIF REACTION said, aren't favorable to older games.

[West-Side]

They combine reviews from mostly shitty sites that no one cares about and like GIF REACTION said, aren't favorable to older games.

:hammerhead: You dipshit, they include all PUBLISHED reviews available online including sites like IGN, GameSpot and GameTrailers.

Those sites aren't favorable to older games?
Uhm lets see what their best games of all-time are shall we?


Ocarina of Time (1998)
Pro Skater 2 (2000)
GTA 4 (2008)
Soul Calibur (1999)
Galaxy (2007)
Galaxy 2 (2010)
GTA V (2014)
Pro Skater 3 (2001)
Perfect Dark (2000)
Metroid Prime (2002)
GTA III (2001)
Halo (2001)
NFL 2K1 (2001)
Half-Life (2004)
GoldenEye 007 (1997)
Uncharted 2 (2009)
Resident Evil 4 (2005)
Arkham City (2011)
Tekken 3 (1998)
The Orange Box (2007)
Mass Effect 2 (2010)
Twilight Princes (2006)
Skyrim (2011)
Half Life (1998)
The Wind Waker (2003)
Gran Turismo (1998)
BioShock (2007)
MGS 2 (2001)
Baldur's Gate II (2000)
San Andreas (2004)
Vice City (2002)


Where's the bias? :roll:

[GIF REACTION]

Halo just sitting here laughing at these peasants fighting for 2nd place. Champ's here.

[macmac]

:hammerhead: You dipshit, they include all PUBLISHED reviews available online including sites like IGN, GameSpot and GameTrailers.

Those sites aren't favorable to older games?
Uhm lets see what their best games of all-time are shall we?


Ocarina of Time (1998)
Pro Skater 2 (2000)
GTA 4 (2008)
Soul Calibur (1999)
Galaxy (2007)
Galaxy 2 (2010)
GTA V (2014)
Pro Skater 3 (2001)
Perfect Dark (2000)
Metroid Prime (2002)
GTA III (2001)
Halo (2001)
NFL 2K1 (2001)
Half-Life (2004)
GoldenEye 007 (1997)
Uncharted 2 (2009)
Resident Evil 4 (2005)
Arkham City (2011)
Tekken 3 (1998)
The Orange Box (2007)
Mass Effect 2 (2010)
Twilight Princes (2006)
Skyrim (2011)
Half Life (1998)
The Wind Waker (2003)
Gran Turismo (1998)
BioShock (2007)
MGS 2 (2001)
Baldur's Gate II (2000)
San Andreas (2004)
Vice City (2002)


Where's the bias? :roll:

Hmmmm, well considering the SNES is arguably the best system of all time, I'd say there's at least some bias against older games. Chrono trigger? Link to the Past? If those aren't in a top 20 list, then that list is wrong.

[Heavincent]

i've done this to death, but it was not groundbreaking by any means. mgs 3 made me way more emotional, had better characters, and mgs 2 blew my mind. tlou did neither. it was just a cool post-apocalyptic game to me, not the messiah of all gaming.

You know I love the MGS series. Shit, I would probably put MGS 2, 3, and 5 in my top 10 all time. But TLoU is better written than any of the MGS games. Just because Kojima does the metafiction shit doesn't mean they are better written games. Yes, the MGS series was an innovator too in terms of storytelling in video games, but it's not of the quality of TLoU. Characters, dialogue, and acting are more believable in the Last of Us. And there's no denying MGS has some REALLY stupid shit, like Otacon banging his step mom while his dad drowns himself (:lol), a girl sniper who doesn't wear clothes and doesn't speak (because Kojima is a perv), bullshit explanations for super natural events (nanomachines, parasites), and general plot holes and inconsistencies. Does any of this bother me? Not really. In fact, I actually enjoy the absurdity of it all, but TLoU is almost flawless in terms of writing, character development, etc. Everything that happens is perfectly believable.

I'm not saying it's perfect. Obviously no game is. I know there are rare instance of Ellie running in front of an enemy and some overly scripted gameplay sequences. But the game is intense as **** on higher difficulties when you're constantly low on supplies and ammo. You have to play it on hard difficulty or above with no listen mode to get the full experience. I'm never seen a game that switches so organically between stealth and open combat. The violence is really well done too...not violent in a cartoony way like most games. More like a No Country For Old Men vibe where you cringe because it's so realistically brutal. Every encounter in the game is memorable.

You guys need to chill out a little. We're just talking about video games here :lol

[West-Side]

Halo just sitting here laughing at these peasants fighting for 2nd place. Champ's here.

I'll just kill two birds with one stone.

GAME OF THE YEARS

2003

* The Winners of the Year *

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - 18 (including Awards 2004)

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 7

Call of Duty - 4 (including Awards 2004)

2004

* The Winners of the Year *


Half-Life 2 - 21

Halo 2 - 11 (including Awards 2005)

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 9 (including Awards 2005)

2005

* The Winners of the Year *

Resident Evil 4 - 35

Shadow of the Colossus - 6 (including Awards 2006)

God of War - 4

2006

* The Winners of the Year *

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - 40 (including Awards 2007)

Gears of War - 34 (including Awards 2007)

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 26

2007

* The Winners of the Year *


Bioshock - 47

Super Mario Galaxy - 44 (including Awards 2008)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 22 (including Awards 2008)

Portal - 13

Rock Band - 6

Halo 3 - 6 (including Awards 2008)

2008

* The Winners of the Year *


Fallout 3 - 69 (including Awards 2009)

The Critics' Picks - 51

The Readers' Picks - 18


GTA IV - 39

The Critics' Picks - 25

The Readers' Picks - 14


Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 38

The Critics' Picks - 23

The Readers' Picks - 15

2009

* The Winners of this year *


Uncharted 2: Among Thieves - 111

The Critics' Picks - 73

The Readers' Picks - 38


Batman: Arkham Asylum - 30

The Critics' Picks - 29

The Readers' Picks - 1


Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 25 (including Awards 2010)

The Critics' Picks - 13

The Readers' Picks - 12

2010

* The Winners of this year *


Red Dead Redemption - 111

The Critics' Picks - 87

The Readers' Picks - 24


Mass Effect 2 - 101

The Critics' Picks - 68

The Readers' Picks - 33


Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 19

The Critics' Picks - 17

The Readers' Picks - 2


Heavy Rain - 12

The Critics' Picks - 11

The Readers' Picks - 1


God of War III - 7

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty - 6

Bayonetta - 5

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 5

Fallout: New Vegas - 4

Halo:Reach - 4 :oldlol: Ouch


2011

* The Winners of this year *


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 226 (including Awards 2012)

The Critics' Picks - 163

The Readers' Picks - 63


Portal 2 - 58

The Critics' Picks - 53

The Readers' Picks - 5


Batman: Arkham City - 40

The Critics' Picks - 36

The Readers' Picks - 4

2012

* The Winners of this year *


The Walking Dead: The Game - 75

The Critics' Picks - 66

The Readers' Picks - 9


Journey - 57

The Critics' Picks - 49

The Readers' Picks - 8


Far Cry 3 - 51

The Critics' Picks - 25

The Readers' Picks - 26


Dishonored - 49

The Critics' Picks - 42

The Readers' Picks - 7


Mass Effect 3 - 32

The Critics' Picks - 21

The Readers' Picks - 11


Borderlands 2 - 27

The Critics' Picks - 15

The Readers' Picks - 12


Assassin's Creed III - 25

The Critics' Picks - 10

The Readers' Picks - 15


XCOM: Enemy Unknown - 21

The Critics' Picks - 21

The Readers' Picks -


Halo 4 - 20 :oldlol:

The Critics' Picks - 13

The Readers' Picks - 7



2013

* The Winners of this year *


The Last of Us - 249 :bowdown:

The Critics' Picks - 191

The Readers' Picks - 58


Grand Theft Auto V - 159

The Critics' Picks - 107

The Readers' Picks - 52


Bioshock Infinite - 43

The Critics' Picks - 40

The Readers' Picks - 3


BioShock Infinite & GTA V are easily the toughest competitors and TLOU still had a comfortable lead and the highest total vote score in history.

2014

* The Winners of this year *


Dragon Age: Inquisition - 134

The Critics' Picks - 101

The Readers' Picks - 33


Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor - 49

The Critics' Picks - 45

The Readers' Picks - 4


Mario Kart 8 - 28

The Critics' Picks - 20

The Readers' Picks - 8

Source (http://gotypicks.blogspot.ca/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html)


So, MGS nor Halo has won a single GOTY award since 2003, yet both TLOU & Uncharted 2 won quiet confidingly.

Rest In Peace fan boys.

[West-Side]

Hmmmm, well considering the SNES is arguably the best system of all time, I'd say there's at least some bias against older games. Chrono trigger? Link to the Past? If those aren't in a top 20 list, then that list is wrong.

SNES is NOT included on these websites, nor Genesis etc.
Internet wasn't big enough back in the day. These websites collect all the reviews from all the online publications. Obviously they wouldn't have games dating back to the early 90's late 80's.

Games are from gamecube, N64, PS, PS2 days etc.
My point is, there is absolutely no bias between a game made in 2001 and a game made in 2013, like these fan boys are claiming.

[Shade8780]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKGqNWKhxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=napjMrAx0KQ&t=44m43s
these are much more emotional and better written then "hey sully we did it again lol" or "did you kill those people in the lab?" "no." "k."

[Shade8780]

You know I love the MGS series. Shit, I would probably put MGS 2, 3, and 5 in my top 10 all time. But TLoU is better written than any of the MGS games. Just because Kojima does the metafiction shit doesn't mean they are better written games. Yes, the MGS series was an innovator too in terms of storytelling in video games, but it's not of the quality of TLoU. Characters, dialogue, and acting are more believable in the Last of Us. And there's no denying MGS has some REALLY stupid shit, like Otacon banging his step mom while his dad drowns himself (:lol), a girl sniper who doesn't wear clothes and doesn't speak (because Kojima is a perv), bullshit explanations for super natural events (nanomachines, parasites), and general plot holes and inconsistencies. Does any of this bother me? Not really. In fact, I actually enjoy the absurdity of it all, but TLoU is almost flawless in terms of writing, character development, etc. Everything that happens is perfectly believable.

I'm not saying it's perfect. Obviously no game is. I know there are rare instance of Ellie running in front of an enemy and some overly scripted gameplay sequences. But the game is intense as **** on higher difficulties when you're constantly low on supplies and ammo. You have to play it on hard difficulty or above with no listen mode to get the full experience. I'm never seen a game that switches so organically between stealth and open combat. The violence is really well done too...not violent in a cartoony way like most games. More like a No Country For Old Men vibe where you cringe because it's so realistically brutal. Every encounter in the game is memorable.

You guys need to chill out a little. We're just talking about video games here :lol
See, this is what I've been asking for the whole time.

Not your fvcking ****** GameRankings, West-Side.

Thanks Heavincent :cheers:

[GIF REACTION]

Awards are mainly bullshit

Impact matters the most

Console carry job = Goat

[West-Side]

Prologue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gz164gkYVk)

Just a glimpse of how emotional TLOU was as a game.

[Shade8780]

Prologue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gz164gkYVk)

Just a glimpse of how emotional TLOU was as a game.
A glimpse? That was the most emotional part of the game.

[West-Side]

A glimpse? That was the most emotional part of the game.

There were countless of emotional scenes in TLOU.

Tess's death
The heart-to-heart Joel & Ellie have on the Ranch
Ellie's fight with David
Henry & Sam's deaths
Believing that Joel died
Playing Ellie in the Winter chapters
When Joel carried Ellie out of the hospital

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Halo just did it right.

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Arguing over metacritic scores are stupid. Peoplw have different tastes and different expectations in a game
None of the games being talked about are bad people just value different things why can't people accept other people they've never mets opinion? It doesn't have to change how you feel about a game.

[Ai2death]

Arguing over metacritic scores are stupid. Peoplw have different tastes and different expectations in a game
None of the games being talked about are bad people just value different things why can't people accept other people they've never mets opinion? It doesn't have to change how you feel about a game.

THIS.

I know you don't like TLOU Outbreak so i don't worry about arguing my opinion with you over it, it won't change anything except waste both our time. Plus, you not liking a game i like doesn't change anything. I'll still like it haha...

So... How about that new Uncharted game coming out in March? Eh Eh?

PS. **** Halo

[West-Side]

Uncharted 4 Antagonists

RAFE
http://media1.gameinformer.com/filestorage/CommunityServer.Components.SiteFiles/imagefeed/featured/sony2015/uncharted4/characters/rafe.jpg

Rafe is a rival treasure hunter who deploys different morals and approaches to obtain the objects of his desire. He partners with Nadine Ross to pursue Avery

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THIS.

I know you don't like TLOU Outbreak so i don't worry about arguing my opinion with you over it, it won't change anything except waste both our time. Plus, you not liking a game i like doesn't change anything. I'll still like it haha...

So... How about that new Uncharted game coming out in March? Eh Eh?

PS. **** Halo
**** up bitch

Halo wins

Halo 5 will outsell this game

Easy

[outbreak]

THIS.

I know you don't like TLOU Outbreak so i don't worry about arguing my opinion with you over it, it won't change anything except waste both our time. Plus, you not liking a game i like doesn't change anything. I'll still like it haha...

So... How about that new Uncharted game coming out in March? Eh Eh?

PS. **** Halo
I actually like the last of us, I just don't think it's a perfect game but then there are very few if any perfect games. Just because i think something is overrated doesn't mean it can't still be good, in basketball terms I think Lebron is over rated by the mainstream media but at the same time I can happily acknowledge he has been the best player in the NBA at times. I'm actually really excited for the last of us 2 as I am guessing they will fix up the things that I felt were flawed or rushed and improve on the idea as most sequels do.

I'm playing through uncharted 2 remaster at the moment, pumped for uncharted 4 but disappointed because I really could have sworn it was meant to come out this year :( Oh well we have battlefront, fallout and tomb raider coming out soon so that'll keep me busy until christmas.

[West-Side]

**** up bitch

Halo wins

Halo 5 will outsell this game

Easy

Only because of its online platform.
For instance, Call of Duty has outsold every Halo game to date.

:oldlol:
That doesn't make it a better game.

MGS & Uncharted never sold more than 7 million copies, yet Halo 4 sold 9 million mostly because of the online community.

SEVEN COD titles have sold more copies than Halo's BEST selling game. :facepalm

[West-Side]

I actually like the last of us, I just don't think it's a perfect game but then there are very few if any perfect games. I'm actually really excited for the last of us 2 as I am guessing they will fix up the things that I felt were flawed or rushed and improve on the idea as most sequels do.

I'm playing through uncharted 2 remaster at the moment, pumped for uncharted 4 but disappointed because I really could have sworn it was meant to come out this year :( Oh well we have battlefront, fallout and tomb raider coming out soon so that'll keep me busy until christmas.

I'm excited for Tomb Raider but is it Xbox exclusive??

[outbreak]

I'm excited for Tomb Raider but is it Xbox exclusive??
Timed exclusive I believe so it will flow through to other platforms later. I've got all the current gen consoles at the moment so I'll be picking it up.

Selling my Vita though, that thing was the biggest let down for me. Such a great console tech wise but it really got let down in the games department imo.

[Ai2death]

I actually like the last of us, I just don't think it's a perfect game but then there are very few if any perfect games. Just because i think something is overrated doesn't mean it can't still be good, in basketball terms I think Lebron is over rated by the mainstream media but at the same time I can happily acknowledge he has been the best player in the NBA at times. I'm actually really excited for the last of us 2 as I am guessing they will fix up the things that I felt were flawed or rushed and improve on the idea as most sequels do.

I'm playing through uncharted 2 remaster at the moment, pumped for uncharted 4 but disappointed because I really could have sworn it was meant to come out this year :( Oh well we have battlefront, fallout and tomb raider coming out soon so that'll keep me busy until christmas.

Yeah, pretty much what i meant, what i said wasn't suppose to be taking too literal, but the internet haha.

Dude, i feel your pain on the release date, but i'm glad they're taking their time and not rushing it for Christmas. Funny thing is, the release date of March lines up perfectly with 2 weeks of annual leave i had already put in for hahaha.

[Ai2death]

Timed exclusive I believe so it will flow through to other platforms later. I've got all the current gen consoles at the moment so I'll be picking it up.

Selling my Vita though, that thing was the biggest let down for me. Such a great console tech wise but it really got let down in the games department imo.

Do you have a 3ds? well worth it for communters

[outbreak]

That's true, I've got holidays at the end of March too I think so that'll work for me. At least it's spread out too but I was really pumped to play uncharted 4 right after the remasters, oh well it'll be something to play in a dryer period release wise and for sales it'll work out well for them not having to compete against the end of year release rush. I hate how everything comes out all at once.

Yeah I've got a 3ds (not a 'new' 3ds yet though which I'll probably pass on if the NX is replacing it). I like the 3ds, it's simple but the games nintendo have gotten for it are more suited to mobile and casual play than a lot of the bigger budget titles sony tried to get on the vita. I just think a handheld home console doesn't work, it needs to be a handheld console with games that vary from a home console offering and designed with casual and portability in mind. Some of my favourite recent games have been on 3ds actually, bravely default and fire emblem awakening were excellent apart from the sequels for those though it's release schedule look fairly dead.

[Ai2death]

That's true, I've got holidays at the end of March too I think so that'll work for me. At least it's spread out too but I was really pumped to play uncharted 4 right after the remasters, oh well it'll be something to play in a dryer period release wise and for sales it'll work out well for them not having to compete against the end of year release rush. I hate how everything comes out all at once.

Yeah I've got a 3ds (not a 'new' 3ds yet though which I'll probably pass on if the NX is replacing it). I like the 3ds, it's simple but the games nintendo have gotten for it are more suited to mobile and casual play than a lot of the bigger budget titles sony tried to get on the vita. I just think a handheld home console doesn't work, it needs to be a handheld console with games that vary from a home console offering and designed with casual and portability in mind. Some of my favourite recent games have been on 3ds actually, bravely default and fire emblem awakening were excellent apart from the sequels for those though it's release schedule look fairly dead.

Only problem i have with the release date of uncharted 4 is that the division comes out the week earlier.

I bought the new 3ds for Monster Hunter, i wanted the c stick haha. I'm going to hold out and see what the NX delivers before committing this time.

[outbreak]

Only problem i have with the release date of uncharted 4 is that the division comes out the week earlier.

I bought the new 3ds for Monster Hunter, i wanted the c stick haha. I'm going to hold out and see what the NX delivers before committing this time.
I only played the monster hunter on wii u. Smart idea waiting on the NX, my wii u hasn't been turned on in a very long time.

[Ai2death]

I only played the monster hunter on wii u. Smart idea waiting on the NX, my wii u hasn't been turned on in a very long time.

I'm only waiting on the NX cause i feel a bit cheated. I love my Wii U and it gets played almost every day (Smash Bros) but i feel like the Wii U still had plenty left to give with some more titles/development etc. So i feel a bit cheated that they gave up so quick. Hence why i will wait and see the NX.
I bought the Wii U after it had been out over a year and after i bought my PS4, whether that influences my opinion on it or not.

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Yeah because COD is multi plat, and the biggest gaming franchise alive

But it lost its critical acclaim after MW2

Halo STILL beasting... The quality shows. 3 years inbetween games. The GOAT tier can't be games that didn't sell well. They are quality but they lack real world impact

Halo inspired a whole genre on consoles.... Halo 2 inspired online matchmaking... The exact shit which allows Cod to prosper today... Yep. That was from Halo 2.

[outbreak]

Everything halo did including match making came from pc fps games. If you talk console than you need to talk about halo coming from goldeneye

[West-Side]

Yeah because COD is multi plat, and the biggest gaming franchise alive

But it lost its critical acclaim after MW2

Halo STILL beasting... The quality shows. 3 years inbetween games. The GOAT tier can't be games that didn't sell well. They are quality but they lack real world impact

Halo inspired a whole genre on consoles.... Halo 2 inspired online matchmaking... The exact shit which allows Cod to prosper today... Yep. That was from Halo 2.

Wrong.
For example;

PS3 - Modern Warfare 3 & X360 Modern Warfare 3 sold more copies than any Halo title. They combined for over 26 million copies.

Halo hasn't been epic since Halo 3, TBH.
I definitely would put Combat Evolved as a top 10 game of all-time though. I did not like Halo 2 that much; Halo 3 & Reach were good though. But I just think they are extremely repetitive. I can play Reach & then 2 weeks later put Halo 3 in, and I wouldn't know the difference.

I thought Gears was better. Mass Effect was definitely better.
I'm not even going to bring up Batman, Uncharted, MGS; all better titles, IMO.

Heck, I'd say Halo is slightly better than AC.
Halo 1 came out like 15 years ago bruh, give it up.

[GIF REACTION]

That's what I just said

COD is the biggest gaming franchise

But for Xbox alone Halo has always been relatively close in sales

Also FPS are the most criticized genre these days

Open world, large world RPGs don't come under that same scrutiny...

MGS is a stealth game... Almost every stealth gets marked high...

Uncharted is good but has anyone ever heard of it? No real world impact

Halo was breaking opening day records

MGS or Uncharted have never had that impact

Games like GTA, Cod and Halo are GOAT tier... But Cod not so much since post black ops

GTA is always good but it is pretty hard to **** up an open world game... Just put an excess of low quality content in there and people are raving. Halo stayed true to itself and never changed it up all that much... Stuck to the basics which is why it is the GOAT FPS console franchise. Other games bring in fancy functions and gadgets.. supplementing for true tactic and gameplay. Halo would maybe bring 1 or 2 new functions to every game... Halo 4 went overboard with the fancy additions and it hurt the game. The simplicity and ease of controls, as a lot of game critics like to say, the barrier between you and the game was non existent. Anyone could pick up a controller and get the hang of it. You criticize Halo for this, everybody else applauds it.

Just watch Halo 5 dominate. Champ's here.

[West-Side]

That's what I just said

COD is the biggest gaming franchise

But for Xbox alone Halo has always been relatively close in sales

Also FPS are the most criticized genre these days

Open world, large world RPGs don't come under that same scrutiny...

MGS is a stealth game... Almost every stealth gets marked high...

Uncharted is good but has anyone ever heard of it? No real world impact

Halo was breaking opening day records

MGS or Uncharted have never had that impact

Games like GTA, Cod and Halo are GOAT tier... But Cod not so much since post black ops

GTA is always good but it is pretty hard to **** up an open world game... Just put an excess of low quality content in there and people are raving. Halo stayed true to itself and never changed it up all that much... Stuck to the basics which is why it is the GOAT FPS console franchise. Other games bring in fancy functions and gadgets.. supplementing for true tactic and gameplay. Halo would maybe bring 1 or 2 new functions to every game... Halo 4 went overboard with the fancy additions and it hurt the game. The simplicity and ease of controls, as a lot of game critics like to say, the barrier between you and the game was non existent. Anyone could pick up a controller and get the hang of it. You criticize Halo for this, everybody else applauds it.

Just watch Halo 5 dominate. Champ's here.

Considering Halo hasn't won GOTY in the last 12 years, I'd say calling them the "champ" is a massive overstatement.

[GIF REACTION]

Considering Halo hasn't won GOTY in the last 12 years, I'd say calling them the "champ" is a massive overstatement.
Michael Jordan didn't win MVP every year.

[outbreak]

Fps games can get praise if they do things right. Look at wolfenstein new order. Theres a shit ton of open world games that sucked and were reviewed bad too. Rockstar make high quality games it isn't a bias its just that halo has done nothing new in its last few iterations. Its a popcorn action game with no substance.

[GIF REACTION]

COD ruined the FPS genre

That's why FPS gets shat on these days

Besides

Everything COD is came from Halo

INNOVATION

[GIF REACTION]

Is this game even gonna be 60fps

Lol

[West-Side]

Is this game even gonna be 60fps

Lol

I wish Halo 5 would have been released in 2016, so I can see U4 take a giant dump on it.

[Shade8780]

this just in: west-side works at metacritic

[GIF REACTION]

less than a week til Halo 5

Keep the eyes peeled for good reviews

If Halo 4 was like a 97 on IGN, Halo 5 should get a 100

[West-Side]

this just in: west-side works at metacritic

This just in; you got your ass handed to you in this thread.
Now run along and save the little dignity that you have left.

**** boy.

[GIF REACTION]

MAKE WAY FOR THE GOAT

http://www.resizr.com/resized/8a8f.jpg

[Shade8780]

This just in; you got your ass handed to you in this thread.
Now run along and save the little dignity that you have left.

**** boy.
what's the point in arguing with some critic review jerk off? all you're going to do is "le gamerankings say it's better".

lol wow owned

fvck outta here, im done with your weak bullshit

[GIF REACTION]

Alan Tudyk: I left Uncharted 4 over “weird changes” to script

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/10/alan-tudyk-i-left-uncharted-4-over-weird-changes-to-script/?comments=1

Yikes!

[Shade8780]

ouch

[Shade8780]

Some anonymously sourced reports at the time claimed Hennig was "forced out" by The Last of Us scribes Neil Druckmann and Bruce Straley, who took over leadership on Uncharted 4, but Naughty Dog later denied those reports directly. A number of other senior developers at Naughty Dog also left the company in the wake of Hennig's departure, including director Justin Richmond, lead character artist Michael Knowland, and art director Nate Wells.

buh buh but... amy hennig doesn't matter? right, west-side?

unlucky mate

maybe next time

[GIF REACTION]

Uncharted doing a destiny

Game will flop HARD

[West-Side]

buh buh but... amy hennig doesn't matter? right, west-side?

unlucky mate

maybe next time

What does that have to do with anything?
Pretty sure I already exposed your dumb ass earlier by outlining who directed which games at Naughty Dog.

I'm not explaining it again to your ignorant ass.
Fact is, we've ALREADY seen the game-play footage and it looks spectacular (as always). Amy was the leader for Drake's Fortune and Deception; two inferior games to (Uncharted 2 & TLOU).

In other words; BOTH games that Bruce was the lead on won GAME OF THE YEAR [The Last of Us & Uncharted 2]. Amy won jack shit with her titles.

Sure she would have helped (with her writing) but Bruce already proved he doesn't need her to create an all-time great game [The Last of Us].

Keep hoping and praying bud, the greatness arrives on March, 2016.


Naughty Dog Hires The Order: 1886 Environment and Lighting Artists for Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End



Naughty Dog has entered the final phase of development of Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, and since the release date on March 18th isn’t so far away, they hired new talent to help. Given that we’re talking about graphics, they went to find it among some of the best in the field.

The house of Uncharted recently hired David Budlong and Huan Tran, who worked respectively as an Environment Artist and Lighting Artist on The Order: 1886.

Budlong was the primary environment modeler for several levels of Ready at Dawn’s beautiful game. Tran took care of the in-engine lighting of environments, characters and cinematics, including the Whitechapel Hospital, which featured some absolutely masterful lighting, creating an eerie and really creepy atmosphere.


Naughty Dog Hires Extremely Talented Artist for Uncharted 4; Check Out His Awesome Artwork and Videos



Naughty Dog has always been well known for attracting extremely talented artists and developers, and this month they hired another that definitely fits the bill, Andrew Maximov. They also didn’t waste any time and already put him at work on Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End according to his linkedin profile.

We learn that Maximov is an expert with Unreal Engine 4, physically based rendering, shader creation, scripting, particle effects and also works on concept art. He can “set up some of the most efficient art production pipelines in the industry, fully including next gen” and do “Lighting-fast full environment production (ideation, conception, blockout, modeling, texturing, shaders, set dressing, lighting & atmospherics)”

Eat a dick. :pimp:

[GIF REACTION]

It goes

1. Halo
2. MGS
3. Uncharted

The more games of a franchise you make, the harder it becomes to keep at the top of the game with the critics

Halo 1 - 97 Metacritic
Halo 2 - 95 Metacritic
Halo 3 - 94 Metacritic
Halo Reach - 91 Metacritic
Halo 4 - 87 (Was 90 but dropped after 343 made a public comment saying they were happy with 90)
Halo 5 - Predicted to be 93-97 range

Uncharted 1 - 88
Uncharted 2 - 96
Uncharted 3 - 92

Those numbers don't stack up to Halo... 3 games in and already dropping into the 80's

MGS is the only true contender against Halo

MGS 1 - 94
MGS 2 - 96
MGS 3 - 91
MGS 4 - 94
MGS 5 - 93

[West-Side]

It goes

1. Halo
2. MGS
3. Uncharted

The more games of a franchise you make, the harder it becomes to keep at the top of the game with the critics

Halo 1 - 97 Metacritic
Halo 2 - 95 Metacritic
Halo 3 - 94 Metacritic
Halo Reach - 91 Metacritic
Halo 4 - 87 (Was 90 but dropped after 343 made a public comment saying they were happy with 90)
Halo 5 - Predicted to be 93-97 range

Uncharted 1 - 88
Uncharted 2 - 96
Uncharted 3 - 92

Those numbers don't stack up to Halo... 3 games in and already dropping into the 80's

MGS is the only true contender against Halo

MGS 1 - 94
MGS 2 - 96
MGS 3 - 91
MGS 4 - 94
MGS 5 - 93

Halo - 92.80
Uncharted - 92
MGS - 93.60

I also love how you included Drake's Fortune but omitted ODST and Halo Wars. :oldlol: Why? Because they got 83 & 82 scores. :rolleyes:

You're also omitting MGS games that received lower scores like Peace Waker (89), The Twin Snakes (85), Substance (87). :facepalm

Nice way to manipulate the information buddy.

Bottom line, the people that are working on Uncharted 4 are the same people that created U2 & TLOU.

TLOU - 95
U2 - 96

User Scores

Drake's Fortune - 81
Uncharted 2 - 88
Uncharted 3 - 83
TLOU - 91


Halo - 86
Halo 2 - 81
Halo 3 - 78
Halo Reach - 79
Halo 4 - 70 [Ouch]


Plus, you should really consider the number of reviews each game gets.
For example, even though MGS & Halo have a similar rating to Uncharted 2, consider the amount of critic reviews each of those games got.

U2 - 105 reviews (96 score)
MGS - 42 reviews (96 score)
Halo - 68 (97 score)

The more reviews a game gets, the lower its score becomes.
It's a known fact, it's just harder to impress more people.

For example,

Uncharted 2 - 96.43% (82 reviews)
Halo - 95.54% (78 reviews)
MGS - 95.09% (68 reviews)

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

By the way, you can thank you precious Amy Henning [that you guys claim the greatest] for ruining Uncharted's reputation by developing Uncharted 1 & 3. :oldlol:

[GIF REACTION]

Because Halo Wars and ODST were neither big projects that were hyped up as the other main installments

ODST was essentially a DLC and Halo Wars had nothing to do with the main series... It is a RTS

If Uncharted had any non main title games I would not have used them in the score

ODST was essentially throwing the fans a bone while they waited for Reach. That's why the had the beta to Reach with it

[GIF REACTION]

So Halo still is more critically acclaimed, despite being in the most oversaturated genre in gaming... And selling record numbers

[West-Side]

Who cares.
Halo, Uncharted & MGS are household names.
3 of the greatest franchises ever.

I think this argument started with people asking me why I think Uncharted 4 will be epic, and I think I've already covered my reasoning.

Now lets wait and see.
PP was a great game, as expected.
Now it's Halo's turn (I bet it flops, :oldlol: ).
And the best is always saved for last, Uncharted 4. :bowdown:

[Shade8780]

The Twin Snakes is a shitty Gamecube remake and Substance is a re-release of MGS 2 with some very subtle added features.

Un-fvcking-lucky mate.

[Shade8780]

What does that have to do with anything?
Pretty sure I already exposed your dumb ass earlier by outlining who directed which games at Naughty Dog.

I'm not explaining it again to your ignorant ass.
Fact is, we've ALREADY seen the game-play footage and it looks spectacular (as always). Amy was the leader for Drake's Fortune and Deception; two inferior games to (Uncharted 2 & TLOU).

In other words; BOTH games that Bruce was the lead on won GAME OF THE YEAR [The Last of Us & Uncharted 2]. Amy won jack shit with her titles.

Sure she would have helped (with her writing) but Bruce already proved he doesn't need her to create an all-time great game [The Last of Us].

Keep hoping and praying bud, the greatness arrives on March, 2016.





Eat a dick. :pimp:
It really isn't that simple. Amy is a huge part of the Uncharted team, and I'd rather listen to people who are actually working on the fvcking game than a dumb fanboy like you. Her departure has clearly made a big impact, even Nolan North is like "ehhh... well... eh.... it's different?"

The Last of Us =/= Uncharted

Like GIF_REACTION said, it's starting to sound a little like the development process behind Destiny. Not saying it'll be as barebones and dry as vanilla Destiny was, but you're expectations are WAY too high. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment.

[Shade8780]

Who cares.
Halo, Uncharted & MGS are household names.
3 of the greatest franchises ever.

I think this argument started with people asking me why I think Uncharted 4 will be epic, and I think I've already covered my reasoning.

Now lets wait and see.
PP was a great game, as expected.
Now it's Halo's turn (I bet it flops, :oldlol: ).
And the best is always saved for last, Uncharted 4. :bowdown:
Can we just leave it here? I'm sick of this shit.

Let's wait and see.

[GIF REACTION]

Halo 5 should be a 94-96 but because FPS is so over-saturated these days and everyone likes to hate on Halo, especially sony fanboys, there will be plenty of clickbait shit tier reviews

Uncharted simply doesn't face the same scrutiny as bigger franchises.

[West-Side]

It really isn't that simple. Amy is a huge part of the Uncharted team, and I'd rather listen to people who are actually working on the fvcking game than a dumb fanboy like you. Her departure has clearly made a big impact, even Nolan North is like "ehhh... well... eh.... it's different?"

The Last of Us =/= Uncharted

Like GIF_REACTION said, it's starting to sound a little like the development process behind Destiny. Not saying it'll be as barebones and dry as vanilla Destiny was, but you're expectations are WAY too high. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment.

Wow, you are really comparing U4 to Destiny?
Neither of you guys follow ND because you clearly aren't big fans of their games, so why don't you guys take my word for it when I say everything will be okay.

Bruce is the mastermind at Naughty Dog, there's a reason he was the lead for both GOTY's that ND produced. Amy was the writer, that is what she was great at. She build the foundation for the uncharted series, however, she had no part in TLOU. This game, by many is considered a better written game than Uncharted. The fact that Bruce was the lead on developing Uncharted 2, makes me confident that U4 will be epic.

They are also taking over 4 fiscal years to develop this game, so I know they are doing their due diligence. Titles like MGS, Halo & Uncharted are world-renowned, there's no way they will ever really fail.

This isn't UBISOFT and Assassin Creed; where they just care about the money and releasing a new game every year. These developers truly care about their projects, which is why I fully expect Halo, Witcher 3 & PP compete for GOTY and U4 compete for GOTY in 2016.

I'll end the arguments here, lets regain focus on talking about everything Uncharted 4.

[Shade8780]

"bungie are the guys who made halo before it got bad! they can do no wrong! they've been working on destiny for 5+ years now!"

this is why

you're post just backed it up

anyway, yes, let's see what happens. i doubt it's going to be as bad as vanilla destiny, but im not gonna have super high hopes going in.

[West-Side]

"bungie are the guys who made halo before it got bad! they can do no wrong! they've been working on destiny for 5+ years now!"

this is why

you're post just backed it up

anyway, yes, let's see what happens. i doubt it's going to be as bad as vanilla destiny, but im not gonna have super high hopes going in.

Destiny was a new IP though, Uncharted is not.
That's the big difference.

Plus Destiny didn't suck, it was disappointing. It just looked and felt a lot like Halo, with very little content.

From everything I've seen so far (demo, gameplay); Uncharted 4 looks spectacular.

[GIF REACTION]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKVVcdOTYSY

Halo 5

SMOOTH 60 FPS

You guys complaining about not much change? Then Halo 5 will quench your thirst. It's Halo on crack x 10000.

[Ai2death]

Don't bother with them West-Side, after reviewing the total thread,

Shade is just being a troll for the sake of it.

& Gif Reaction? Well that's an entirely new case of stupid. I'm pretty sure he needs some sort of mental help...

We know Uncharted 4 will rock and be GOTY for sure, it's just their loss, which frankly, i could give 2 shits about. Shade will still be Shade just arguing because and Gif will be playing the same recycled FPS that is the same as every other billion FPS on the market... only half as good & not GOTY ever...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/DfbpTbQ9TvSX6/200.gif

[West-Side]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKVVcdOTYSY

Halo 5

SMOOTH 60 FPS

You guys complaining about not much change? Then Halo 5 will quench your thirst. It's Halo on crack x 10000.

Doesn't EVERY FPS game runs at 60 FPS??
It does look good, too bad I don't have an X1.

[Shade8780]

im a troll? lol.

rent free in uncharted fanboys' heads.

[West-Side]

im a troll? lol.

rent free in uncharted fanboys' heads.

The irony is strong here.
A MGS fanboy comes into an Uncharted thread to argue, yet thinks we're living "rent free". :oldlol:

Classic Shaddy.

[GIF REACTION]

Don't bother with them West-Side, after reviewing the total thread,

Shade is just being a troll for the sake of it.

& Gif Reaction? Well that's an entirely new case of stupid. I'm pretty sure he needs some sort of mental help...

We know Uncharted 4 will rock and be GOTY for sure, it's just their loss, which frankly, i could give 2 shits about. Shade will still be Shade just arguing because and Gif will be playing the same recycled FPS that is the same as every other billion FPS on the market... only half as good & not GOTY ever...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/DfbpTbQ9TvSX6/200.gif
Should have gone to specsavers bro

You ain't seein' what I'm seeing?

I'm seeing the evolution of FPS on console

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Should have gone to specsavers bro

You ain't seein' what I'm seeing?

I'm seeing the evolution of FPS on console

Is this a goldeneye thread now?

[outbreak]

Don't bother with them West-Side, after reviewing the total thread,

Shade is just being a troll for the sake of it.

& Gif Reaction? Well that's an entirely new case of stupid. I'm pretty sure he needs some sort of mental help...

We know Uncharted 4 will rock and be GOTY for sure, it's just their loss, which frankly, i could give 2 shits about. Shade will still be Shade just arguing because and Gif will be playing the same recycled FPS that is the same as every other billion FPS on the market... only half as good & not GOTY ever...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/DfbpTbQ9TvSX6/200.gif

Too early to call GOTY when it hasn't even been released and we don't even have the full schedule for 2016 releases. From the games we have seen I think it'll contend but the new zelda could be amazing and that's a franchise that even though I like it reviewers and award shows seem to just eat it up more than other games.

[Ai2death]

im a troll? lol.

rent free in uncharted fanboys' heads.

How am i a uncharted fanboy? I enjoy the game but i haven't been defending to the ends of the earth, if you don't like it, you don't like it.
It doesn't affect me in the slightest what so ever.

[Ai2death]

Too early to call GOTY when it hasn't even been released and we don't even have the full schedule for 2016 releases. From the games we have seen I think it'll contend but the new zelda could be amazing and that's a franchise that even though I like it reviewers and award shows seem to just eat it up more than other games.

Yeah i was exaggerating a bit, It should be in the discussion if all pans out...


Now Zelda... CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!

My list for next year so far includes:
Uncharted 4
Tom Clancy - The Division
Rainbow 6 Siege (Unsure when this comes out)
Zelda Wii U

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Yeah i was exaggerating a bit, It should be in the discussion if all pans out...


Now Zelda... CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!

My list for next year so far includes:
Uncharted 4
Tom Clancy - The Division
Rainbow 6 Siege (Unsure when this comes out)
Zelda Wii U
I'm keen to see how scalebound plays out but it could suck

[Ai2death]

I'm keen to see how scalebound plays out but it could suck

Scalebound? Never heard of it, I'll have a look and get back to you.

[Ai2death]

Looks pretty good, too bad its Xbox exclusive (Don't have one) I think it will turn out in the enjoyable category.

I forgot Xenoblade Chronicles & Horizon Zero Dawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkg5UVTsKCE

[Levity]

Rainbow 6 Siege (Unsure when this comes out)


december, baby :rockon:

[Shade8780]

How am i a uncharted fanboy? I enjoy the game but i haven't been defending to the ends of the earth, if you don't like it, you don't like it.
It doesn't affect me in the slightest what so ever.
Better question would be how aren't you?


We know Uncharted 4 will rock and be GOTY for sure

[Ai2death]

Better question would be how aren't you?

See.. Troll, thanks for the clarification ya douche :rockon:

[Shade8780]

Are you actually fvcking retarded?

Do you even know what a troll is?

[West-Side]

Guys, I updated the OP.
There's a multiplayer trailer released yesterday.

Not sure what to think of it, looks crazy fun but confusing at the same time. The action just seems so fast, feels overwhelming a bit.

[GIF REACTION]

Shit multiplayer

Halo multi >

[nightprowler10]

Not sure what to think of it, looks crazy fun but confusing at the same time. The action just seems so fast, feels overwhelming a bit.

It looks less like an actual gameplay video and more like a cinematic. I really loved the multiplayer beta they released for UC2. Give me a better version of that and I'm sold.

[nightprowler10]

Also, apparently multiplayer will have micro transactions. Lol. Everybody would be crying and whining if this was Ubisoft.

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Also, apparently multiplayer will have micro transactions. Lol. Everybody would be crying and whining if this was Ubisoft.
Ubisoft put microtransactions in the single player though and that's worse. I'm not too fussed on the multiplayer so long as the campaign is great I'll be happy.

[nightprowler10]

Depends on how you look at it. Using microtransactions in single player only help you finish the game easier, and in turn just ruin the experience for you. Buying upgrades in MP will give you a clear advantage over others.

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Depends on how you look at it. Using microtransactions in single player only help you finish the game easier, and in turn just ruin the experience for you. Buying upgrades in MP will give you a clear advantage over others.

I usually agree. It bothers me putting micro transactions in CS and halo multi player but uncharted for me has never been about the multiplayer so I don't care as much. Still annoying but I know I'll never be too invested in the mode anyway as to me it's more of a single player game so it's not as big an issue for me. You're right though if it were ubisoft people would be attacking regardless of if it's an issue to them or not.

[GIF REACTION]

Correction: Only in one game mode in Halo

And it is very balanced

[Ai2death]

Correction: Only in one game mode in Halo

And it is very balanced

If you get halos dick out your mouth for a second, it would be nice to see your actual opinion instead of this fake "Halo is GOAT' troll..

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Correction: Only in one game mode in Halo

And it is very balanced

I did say cs and halo's multi player.

[Ai2death]

I dabbled in UC3 multiplayer and found it fun, looking to get into UC4. My most enjoyable multiplayer actually came in Max Payne 3. That shit was tight

[GIF REACTION]

I did say cs and halo's multi player.
Only one game mode (Of multiplayer)

[West-Side]

Uncharted 4 is a story-driven game, it's basically opposite of Halo, Call of Duty or other titles that are multi-player driven.

It really will have little impact on me. I just hope the story is rich and interesting.

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Uc3 shows where tlou got its ai problems from. Enemy just runs right at you like they want to die and takes cover next to you still in your line of sight just waiting to die. Got the same aim issues and cover hit boxes bigger than they should physically be as tlou too.

[Shade8780]

You play Uncharted once, you've played it a hundred times.

Boring gameplay.

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You play Uncharted once, you've played it a hundred times.

Boring gameplay.
Can say that about a lot of good games. Uncharted one and two are great.

[West-Side]

You play Uncharted once, you've played it a hundred times.

Boring gameplay.

Then why continue posting in a thread about a game you care nothing about?

[Shade8780]

Then why continue posting in a thread about a game you care nothing about?
because metacritic bitch

[Draz]

Jesus you guys need to chill out. Enjoy the games. The more the better for us, no?

They need to make an all in one disc and god of war needs to do that too. I'd buy it for sure.

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Jesus you guys need to chill out. Enjoy the games. The more the better for us, no?

They need to make an all in one disc and god of war needs to do that too. I'd buy it for sure.
God of war did that didn't they? Pretty sure at least the first 2 got done on ps4 but they didn't hold up as well

[Shade8780]

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/12/05/psx-2015-uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-has-dialogue-options

This is so unnecessary.

Uncharted, the most linear, movie-like, game series in the world, has RPG dialogue options now? :oldlol: :wtf:

It seems like they added them in just for the sake of it.

[Heavincent]

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/12/05/psx-2015-uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-has-dialogue-options

This is so unnecessary.

Uncharted, the most linear, movie-like, game series in the world, has RPG dialogue options now? :oldlol: :wtf:

It seems like they added them in just for the sake of it.

It's Naughty Dog, who are absolute geniuses. I'm sure they have a good reason for it.

Uncharted 4 looks like it has pretty open level design from what I've seen btw.

Best developer in the industry. They just keep upping the ante. This is their first game originally designed for the PS4 too...now just imagine the sequel to The Last of Us. That will be mind blowing.

[Shade8780]

It's Naughty Dog, who are absolute geniuses. I'm sure they have a good reason for it.

Uncharted 4 looks like it has pretty open level design from what I've seen btw.

Best developer in the industry. They just keep upping the ante. This is their first game originally designed for the PS4 too...now just imagine the sequel to The Last of Us. That will be mind blowing.
You can't just give them a pass on stupid things because they've made good games before.

Dialogue options on an Uncharted game is plain stupid. They saw Witcher and Fallout, and thought they could put stuff from those games into theirs.

[GIF REACTION]

You can't just give them a pass on stupid things because they've made good games before.

Dialogue options on an Uncharted game is plain stupid. They saw Witcher and Fallout, and thought they could put stuff from those games into theirs.
Pretty much thiiiiiiis.

[West-Side]

Shade, can you get lost?
This is an Uncharted thread, we get it; you don't like the game.

Yet this clown will google its news more than its fans just to try and find something negative to say about it.

Those 4 minutes looked epic and the branching dialogue adds options to an already stellar franchise.

Please STFU.

[West-Side]

On the subject of bringing Drake's story to a close in Uncharted 4, here's what co-director Neil Druckmann told GameSpot back in June:

"The first three games were the set-up, and if we were to do one more, how would we top it all off? How would we bring Nathan Drake's journey to a close? Everything we're doing [with Uncharted 4] is constructed towards that: bringing closure to a very long journey."

I am so excited.
Less than 4 months away!!!

:bowdown: :applause: :cry:

[nightprowler10]

Wow, that should definitely build some hype. I didn't realize this was meant to be the last one.

I have to say Arkham Knight was looked at the same way when Rocksteady announced it would be the last one. Look at how that turned out...

[Shade8780]

Shade, can you get lost?
This is an Uncharted thread, we get it; you don't like the game.

Yet this clown will google its news more than its fans just to try and find something negative to say about it.

Those 4 minutes looked epic and the branching dialogue adds options to an already stellar franchise.

Please STFU.
sorry, i didnt know this was the fvcking uncharted circlejerk thread.

i dont think they're perfect games by any means like you, but i sure do like them. ill gladly be picking up uncharted 4 the first day(s) it comes out, but just because i can point out and make a deal of a problem when i see one doesnt mean i hate the games. come on now.

branching dialogue is very out of place in the type of game uncharted is. that's my worry with the guys working on this, they seem to be going a very different direction from the amy henning trilogy (one of the best trilogies in gaming mind you), and it's not just me thinking that, nolan north said the same damn thing. some of the changes ive seen are great, some of them are pointless and bad like this.

we'll see in march. i still think it'll be a great game, but im a little cautious right now.

[West-Side]

sorry, i didnt know this was the fvcking uncharted circlejerk thread.

i dont think they're perfect games by any means like you, but i sure do like them. ill gladly be picking up uncharted 4 the first day(s) it comes out, but just because i can point out and make a deal of a problem when i see one doesnt mean i hate the games. come on now.

branching dialogue is very out of place in the type of game uncharted is. that's my worry with the guys working on this, they seem to be going a very different direction from the amy henning trilogy (one of the best trilogies in gaming mind you), and it's not just me thinking that, nolan north said the same damn thing. some of the changes ive seen are great, some of them are pointless and bad like this.

we'll see in march. i still think it'll be a great game, but im a little cautious right now.

This game looks way better than Uncharted 2, to be honest.
I just watched 2 separate videos; the first time Nate & his brother meet at his work and the ball scene (where they introduce the new villain).

I have yet to see better graphics and am excited as hell for this game.
The branching options are minor and I'm sure they will play apart in the conclusion of the series.

By the way, I've already told you Amy was never the genius behind Uncharted. She was the lead in U1 & U3. The guy who is the director for U4 was the director for U2 & TLOU.

Two much better games.

But it doesn't matter, I'm not about to argue with you again.
MGS V was a success; as gamers, we should both hope that U4 is a big success as well.

[West-Side]

Thread updated with latest trailers.
The multi-player beta gameplay is available on youtube.

[Shade8780]

thx for updating op

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I'm worried it'll be like UC3 which had some serious gameplay issues. Still don't understand how you go from 2 being close to perfect to 3 having glaring issues. Hope I'm wrong though because I'm really pumped for this.

[GIF REACTION]

The frame rate looks dodgy with it's drops. Not a completely smooth play

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The frame rate looks dodgy with it's drops. Not a completely smooth play
One of my complaints about the ps4. Some of the multi plats run at higher frame rates but they aren't locked so can drop further and are more noticeable. Guess it's a trade off of a locked lower rate or an unlocked higher rate.

[West-Side]

I'm worried it'll be like UC3 which had some serious gameplay issues. Still don't understand how you go from 2 being close to perfect to 3 having glaring issues. Hope I'm wrong though because I'm really pumped for this.

U3 was still a great ass game though, despite its glaring weaknesses.
Plus, Amy isn't the lead for U4.

The guys who were developing U2 & TLOU are in charge of U4.
I'm pumped.

It's ****ing tax season in March too, so I know I'll be working 70+ hours a week at KPMG. :mad:

[Shade8780]

another delay

may 10 is new release

where is west-side gone?

[West-Side]

I'm right here hoe.

Back just in time for this epic to release.

Pretty much every single source, even the ones who gave Uncharted 4 a lower score than TLOU / Uncharted 2, admitted this is ND's best game and the best Uncharted game to date. The only reason they couldn't give it a higher score had to do more with innovation and originality.

Still 94 on metacritic, already 24 perfect reviews. No mixed reviews at all.

Lowest score is an 80.

:bowdown:

[West-Side]

Atomix - 100
Time - 100
Toronto Sun - 100
Giant Bomb - 100
IGN Denmark - 100
PSX Sense - 100
Arcade Sushi - 100
Areajugones - 100
GamingTrend - 100
Meristation - 100
Game Rant - 100
Digital Spy - 100
DarkStation - 100
Telegraph - 100
Twinfinite - 100
Play Station LifeStyle - 100
Gameblog - 100
CGMagazine - 100
Playstation Universe - 100
TheSixthAxis - 100
Push Square - 100
GameSpot - 100
God is a Geek - 100
JeuxActu - 100

Breakdown of the first 61 reviews.

24 perfect scores (more than MGS V had, with over 90 reviews).
16 scores between 95 & 99.
15 scores between 90 & 94.
Only 6 scores before 90.
No mixed reviews yet... [MGS V had 2]

Eat your little heart out Shade. :pimp:
I doubt this game beats out TLOU's 43 perfect scores because games are rated harsher for today's gen., but my god these 5 days better pass by quickly. Way too excited to play this gem.

[nightprowler10]

Gonna buy it, finish it, and sell it so fast.

[Ai2death]

Easily in my Top 10 GOAT Games, no doubt.

Finished it, loved it and will replay again.

[Thorpesaurous]

So I'm finally getting around to playing. I'm up to chapter 9. Just too much shit going on the last few months. And in addition, I have to admit it was slow to get going. Those first few chapters, with the way I play, checking every nook and cranny, really dragged a bit. Had I muscled through them a little harder I'm sure I would've gotten hooked sooner and started cruising, because that's where I'm at now.

My few notes:
The shooting feels really off. I'm playing on normal difficulty, but this is a game I've gotten platinum trophies on the previous three, and the shooting feels way more difficult. When did this series become a stealth adventure? Now I'm complaining too much, because I really like stealth stuff, and so far I've really liked those mechanics. But it doesn't really feel like an Uncharted game. In more than one way, this feels like it's been heavily influenced by The Last of Us, which obviously makes a lot of sense. One is the amount of stealthiness. But in addition, the slowness of the first act of the story feels very much like the way The Last of Us felt. I'm guessing it's a writing style habit. And lastly, there's the buddy play AI stuff feels a bit like Sam has been skinned on top of Ellie.

Anyway. I'm just now beginning to really enjoy it. And I have no doubt that I'll be totally smitten by the time I'm done. Just some early thoughts.

[West-Side]

So I'm finally getting around to playing. I'm up to chapter 9. Just too much shit going on the last few months. And in addition, I have to admit it was slow to get going. Those first few chapters, with the way I play, checking every nook and cranny, really dragged a bit. Had I muscled through them a little harder I'm sure I would've gotten hooked sooner and started cruising, because that's where I'm at now.

My few notes:
The shooting feels really off. I'm playing on normal difficulty, but this is a game I've gotten platinum trophies on the previous three, and the shooting feels way more difficult. When did this series become a stealth adventure? Now I'm complaining too much, because I really like stealth stuff, and so far I've really liked those mechanics. But it doesn't really feel like an Uncharted game. In more than one way, this feels like it's been heavily influenced by The Last of Us, which obviously makes a lot of sense. One is the amount of stealthiness. But in addition, the slowness of the first act of the story feels very much like the way The Last of Us felt. I'm guessing it's a writing style habit. And lastly, there's the buddy play AI stuff feels a bit like Sam has been skinned on top of Ellie.

Anyway. I'm just now beginning to really enjoy it. And I have no doubt that I'll be totally smitten by the time I'm done. Just some early thoughts.

Completely agree. The shooting is way harder and its like they are forcing you to use stealth. On harder difficult, it's just too difficult to take out all the enemies on crushing without killing a bunch of enemies using stealth.

The game isn't better than U2 or TLOU either. They made this game too slow. There aren't nearly enough enemy encounters and WAY TOO MUCH exploring/climbing. I have never felt so underwhelmed by an ending in a video game. Chapter 21 was the shittiest thing I have experienced in video game history.

The ending and the slow pace to the game really ruined it for me.
It really isn't more fun than U3 to me, but I appreciate everything else about the game. Literally everything was perfect besides them changing the atmosphere of the damn game.

It def. did not feel like Uncharted.
I will def. play it a 2nd time, but I haven't touched it for over 2 weeks now.

Again, U3 had the same impact on me. I did not enjoy it as much as I did after the 2nd playthrough. Maybe my expectations were a bit too high...

[Thorpesaurous]

Completely agree. The shooting is way harder and its like they are forcing you to use stealth. On harder difficult, it's just too difficult to take out all the enemies on crushing without killing a bunch of enemies using stealth.

The game isn't better than U2 or TLOU either. They made this game too slow. There aren't nearly enough enemy encounters and WAY TOO MUCH exploring/climbing. I have never felt so underwhelmed by an ending in a video game. Chapter 21 was the shittiest thing I have experienced in video game history.

The ending and the slow pace to the game really ruined it for me.
It really isn't more fun than U3 to me, but I appreciate everything else about the game. Literally everything was perfect besides them changing the atmosphere of the damn game.

It def. did not feel like Uncharted.
I will def. play it a 2nd time, but I haven't touched it for over 2 weeks now.

Again, U3 had the same impact on me. I did not enjoy it as much as I did after the 2nd playthrough. Maybe my expectations were a bit too high...


I had a similar experience with Uncharted3. In a vacuum it may be a better game than 2, but in the moment, that jump from 1 to 2 was just unreal. U2 felt like nothing I'd ever played before. U3 felt like a sequel to U2, which is great, it just didn't have that impact because of that.

And this one ... it just doesn't feel like an Uncharted game is just the best way to describe it. I love open world games. Some of my favorite games ever have been open world games. The Uncharteds have all been small sandbox sets that we were shuffled through, but this one they're huge. Again, I've really loved exploring them, they are incredibly put together, and they've even been packed with enough trinkets to make me interested in doing so, but those trinkets have little real value, and it really kills the pacing. And again, not that any of that is bad, it's just not what I expect in an Uncharted game. It's creating a weird pacing gap between combat. And when you combine that fact with the fact that the combat has also had a weird pacing glitch added into it, because there were definitely times in previous Uncharteds where you could take cover and start shooting.

So far excellent, just felt like it could've been made into a new IP just as easily as an Uncharted.

[nightprowler10]

That's an interesting take that this doesn't feel like an Uncharted game. There were certainly chapters that were pretty intense and fun, but I think this is the first Uncharted game that is the most story driven, maybe that's why it feels that way? I'm unsure if I completely agree with you on that anyway, but I definitely see where you're coming from.

For me, it's easily 2 > 4 > 1 > 3.

[Thorpesaurous]

That's an interesting take that this doesn't feel like an Uncharted game. There were certainly chapters that were pretty intense and fun, but I think this is the first Uncharted game that is the most story driven, maybe that's why it feels that way? I'm unsure if I completely agree with you on that anyway, but I definitely see where you're coming from.

For me, it's easily 2 > 4 > 1 > 3.


I'm still just getting going, so I may be overstating things myself. I'm just got to Madagascar and have the Jeep, so there's plenty of time for my opinion to change. I loved exploring the Scottish catacombs. That was an unbelievable set. But it did sort of create what I that opinion. It's loaded with hidey holes in the set, and it feels really designed to be beaten as a stealth mission. And the amount of exploration was crazy. I enjoyed it, just because the sets were so meticulously done, but it didn't feel like what I'm used to. And when the pace quickened, A lot of the shootouts felt almost like they were optional, because I could skip them by continuing down the slides and doing what was really closer to a platforming level.

The rope has been a much cooler tool than I expected it to be, but in a lot of ways it made the early sequences I've played feel more like a platform puzzler with shooting sets sprinkled about.

[nightprowler10]

I'm still just getting going, so I may be overstating things myself. I'm just got to Madagascar and have the Jeep, so there's plenty of time for my opinion to change. I loved exploring the Scottish catacombs. That was an unbelievable set. But it did sort of create what I that opinion. It's loaded with hidey holes in the set, and it feels really designed to be beaten as a stealth mission. And the amount of exploration was crazy. I enjoyed it, just because the sets were so meticulously done, but it didn't feel like what I'm used to. And when the pace quickened, A lot of the shootouts felt almost like they were optional, because I could skip them by continuing down the slides and doing what was really closer to a platforming level.

The rope has been a much cooler tool than I expected it to be, but in a lot of ways it made the early sequences I've played feel more like a platform puzzler with shooting sets sprinkled about.
Yeah I loved the stealth in the earlier sequences. It definitely gets more combat heavy as the story progresses.

[Just2McFly]

bloodclot! it's that well reviewed! time to re-buy a ps4.

[West-Side]

Yeah I loved the stealth in the earlier sequences. It definitely gets more combat heavy as the story progresses.

I disagree. It never does. In fact, after Chapter 12 or so, I felt like the gun sequences died down. There were no difficult areas either. Like where is the climax.

I have to play this game the 2nd time because I was genuinely disappointed. I'd give this game at least a 92/93. The atmosphere and lack of actual GAME-PLAY ruined literally a perfect game. I also didn't particularly enjoy the lack of in-game music or soundtrack. Pretty unmemorable to me.

The graphics, story, characterization are simply the best in video game history. I just haven't touched a game that did it better, besides maybe TLOU. Did they rush this or what? I just don't understand how they could screw the gameplay up. This is Uncharted not TLOU, why are you making me climb walls for 85% of the game. This is silly. There was no difficulty progression at all either. I didn't find anything in later chapters too challenging besides that very last fire fight.

Gun to my head, if someone told me U3 or U4, if I could only play one game out of these two. I'd have to say U3. It was just more fun to me. U4 is the better overall game, but U3 is more fun.

In fact, it is highly underrated. I don't think U2 is that much better, if at all. There are just too many things I enjoyed more in U3. U2 was more polished, but U3 to me was more memorable. Just too many of my favorite chapters are in U3.

I'll play U4 again when my vacation rolls around early July. Been busy with work lately.

Busy season at a big four accounting firm literally swallows your personal life for 5-6 months a year. :(