Its crazy how Kobe was Top Ten atg after his 3rd ring

[The Iron Fist]

Dude wasn't even 25 yet, and already securd his place among legends:bowdown: He did it all with no hype coming out of high school, but instead, questions about his ability, his draft, etc. Then, he secures top 5 GOAT when he won back to back FMVPs after virtually everyone didn't think he could even get close.































































Then you have to look at Lbron. Not even top 15 with not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR finals losses. :roll:

[retaxis]

who cares man this is the internet its not like you make any money from kobe or lebrons achievements. Want respect and Love? get a job, work hard and do something for yourself. Stop living vicariously through others because you will wake up one day and your that weird probably paedo uncle. Get out more.

[kennethgriffin]

i'd say he was around 14th all time after his 3rd ring

top 10 after his 4th ring

then top 5-6 after his 5th ring



the awards/achievements/records also helped a ton

[The Iron Fist]

who cares man this is the internet its not like you make any money from kobe or lebrons achievements. Want respect and Love? get a job, work hard and do something for yourself. Stop living vicariously through others because you will wake up one day and your that weird probably paedo uncle. Get out more.
I'm three days from completing a 4 year apprenticeship as a stationary engineer. In 3 days, I'll be a certified journeyman running gas and steam turbines. I'm doing fine little homie. I'm here to talk basketball though.

[Lebron23]

LMAO at Kobe being top 10 with his 3 side kick rings. He officially became a top 10 player of all time when he won his 2nd finals MVP in 2010.

LeBron > Kobe in my all time rankings.

[ekosky]

Not even top 10 after his 5th ring.

[Hey Yo]

Top 10 all time guards?

[Lebron23]

Not even top 10 after his 5th ring.

Fudge stays winning.

[retaxis]

I'm three days from completing a 4 year apprenticeship as a stationary engineer. In 3 days, I'll be a certified journeyman running gas and steam turbines. I'm doing fine little homie. I'm here to talk basketball though.
Quick tip son, a spray painter is technically a metal fabrication engineer. Take it from a real professional that anyone without an engineering degree should never call themselves an engineer or risk being laughed at and ridiculed to no ends. Assuming you are completing whatever you say you are, keep it simple and don't overplay your cards and gloss crap up because when your an engineer, the first thing anyone in the industry asks is what your GPA is.

Life experience......:facepalm

P.S your not here to talk basketball your here to live vicariously through Kobe. If you wanted to talk about basketball you would talk about offensive and defensive sets and options because that is all real basketball fans talk about.

[Fallen Angel]

This was in 2003:

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/slam-magazines-top-75-nba-players-of-all-time.38461/

[Fallen Angel]

Funny thing looking at that list was that Iverson was ranked ahead of Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant

[retaxis]

No one was even ranking Kobe at that time because he hasn't won a championship as the man. Pippen had 6 rings and no one even said he was top 20 so Kobe with 3 sidekick rings (half of what Pippen had) would be lucky to be ranked in the top 30-40.

[PistonsFan#21]

This was in 2003:

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/slam-magazines-top-75-nba-players-of-all-time.38461/

This list has Oscar at #3 over the likes of Magic Johnson, Bird, Shaq, Kareem and Bill Russell :facepalm

And they got Kareem ranked outside of the top 5 all time :facepalm

[The Iron Fist]

Quick tip son, a spray painter is technically a metal fabrication engineer. Take it from a real professional that anyone without an engineering degree should never call themselves an engineer or risk being laughed at and ridiculed to no ends. Assuming you are completing whatever you say you are, keep it simple and don't overplay your cards and gloss crap up because when your an engineer, the first thing anyone in the industry asks is what your GPA is.

Life experience......:facepalm
Look clown, just because you're too stupid to know what a stationary engineer is, or does, doesn't make it nonexistent. I didn't say principal engineer, civil engineer, mechanical engineer, or electrical engineer. I specifically said "stationary engineer". We run plants with turbines, chillers, boilers, water treatment modules, do water chemistry, lab analysis, etc. If you were a "real professional" you'd know that. But you're not. You're a fvcking idiot who assumed to know me based off a stupid post about basketball.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary_engineer

Learn something d1ck.

[kennethgriffin]

LMAO at Kobe being top 10 with his 3 side kick rings. He officially became a top 10 player of all time when he won his 2nd finals MVP in 2010.

LeBron > Kobe in my all time rankings.


thats dumb

at the time back in 2002 the top players all time were


- kareem 6 rings, 2fmvps, 6 mvps
- jordan 6 rings, 6fmvps, 5 mvps
- russell 11 rings, 0 fmvps, 5 mvps
- magic 5 rings, 3 fmvps, 3 mvps
- wilt 2 rings, 1 fmvp, 4 mvps
- bird 3 rings, 2 fmvps, 3 mvps
- shaq 3 rings, 3 fmvps, 1 mvp
- hakeem 2 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- oscar 1 ring, 0 fmvps, 1 mvp
- west 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 0 mvp
- moses 1 ring, 1fmvp, 3 mvp
- duncan 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1mvp
- dr j 1 ring, 0 fmvp, 1 mvp ( had ABA achievements too )
- kobe 3 rings, 0 fmvp, 0 mvp
- baylor 0 rings, 0 rmvp, 0 mvp



by 2002 kobe was 14th all time




then by 2009

- kareem 6 rings, 2fmvps, 6 mvps
- jordan 6 rings, 6fmvps, 5 mvps
- russell 11 rings, 0 fmvps, 5 mvps
- magic 5 rings, 3 fmvps, 3 mvps
- wilt 2 rings, 1 fmvp, 4 mvps
- bird 3 rings, 2 fmvps, 3 mvps
- shaq 4 rings, 3 fmvps, 1 mvp
- duncan 4 rings, 3 fmvps, 2 mvps
- kobe 4 rings, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp
- hakeem 2 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- oscar 1 ring, 0 fmvps, 1 mvp
- west 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 0 mvp
- moses 1 ring, 1fmvp, 3 mvp
- dr j 1 ring, 0 fmvp, 1 mvp ( had ABA achievements too )
- baylor 0 rings, 0 rmvp, 0 mvp


kobe was 9th all time







then by 2010

- kareem 6 rings, 2fmvps, 6 mvps
- jordan 6 rings, 6fmvps, 5 mvps
- russell 11 rings, 0 fmvps, 5 mvps
- magic 5 rings, 3 fmvps, 3 mvps
- kobe 5 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- wilt 2 rings, 1 fmvp, 4 mvps
- bird 3 rings, 2 fmvps, 3 mvps
- shaq 3 rings, 3 fmvps, 1 mvp
- hakeem 2 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- oscar 1 ring, 0 fmvps, 1 mvp
- west 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 0 mvp
- moses 1 ring, 1fmvp, 3 mvp
- duncan 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1mvp
- dr j 1 ring, 0 fmvp, 1 mvp ( had ABA achievements too )
- baylor 0 rings, 0 rmvp, 0 mvp


kobe was 5th all time

[BigTicket]

Kobe was nowhere near the top 10 in 2002.

0 MVPs, 0 FMVPs, 1xAll-NBA first team, 1xAll-defense first team.

That resume is top 50 at best.

[ShackEelOKneel]

This was in 2003:

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/slam-magazines-top-75-nba-players-of-all-time.38461/

Hakeem lower than I'm used to seeing him, Erving and West higher.

[GreggPopazit]

This was in 2003:

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/slam-magazines-top-75-nba-players-of-all-time.38461/

So Duncan was already greater than Kobe when he only had 1 ring while Kobe already had 3. :lol

[Rocketswin2013]

After two unimpressive playoff runs in '00 and '02? Pippen had better postseasons than he did those years. TBH, Kobe's '08 postseason run does more for his legacy to me.

[Bankaii]

Did you really just say 1 role player ring + 2 side kick rings > 2 FMVP, 4 MVP?
Y'all nigz trippin man.

[iamgine]

Lebron already above Kobe's all time rank with a single ring. Maybe even before.

But that's just because its clear Lebron's the better player.

[Dragonyeuw]

Kobe wasn't top ten after the Lakers 3peat. Breaking through in 2009 with his first ring as the top guy, combined with what he had done individually between 2004 and 2009, was what boosted him into the top 10 for most. The 2010 championship was the capper....

[Mr Feeny]

Not even top 10 after his 5th ring.

Unfortunately, this is about right.

[ImKobe]

Kobe was top 10 after his first 3 rings considering that Duncan only had 1 at that point to match, so he was behind Shaq & Kobe in terms of accolades

He was ranked in the top 10 range during the mid 2000s with all those crazy games he had on garbage teams, it was consensus he was the next Jordan, but the knock was that he couldn't win without Shaq. After he won the MVP and led the Lakers to the Finals in 08 and carried team USA in the clutch in Beijing, he was already getting top 5 considerations from coaches and ex-players. After he won b2b he was getting top 3 all-time hype, some even said he would end up as the GOAT.

It is what it is, if the Lakers didn't fall off after 2010 and 3-peated in 11 vs Miami (if Kobe and Pau play like they did in 09 and 10), Kobe right now would be consensus 2nd all-time behind MJ.

[DonDadda59]

It's crazier how that's not even close to being remotely true.

[kennethgriffin]

Unfortunately, this is about right.



i doubt theres more than 100 people on planet earth that don't have kobe top 10


literally from any IQ over 80



and theyre mostly all hardcore fans with extreme agendas on nerdy message boards like this one


probably the lowest subhuman beings that never see the light of day


even i feel like a nerd and i hold the same opinion as most legends/coaches/players



if i'm a nerd. what does that make the extremists with pure hatred towards the man?




sometimes i wonder who i'm talking to on here. like ... could they be the kinds of people that hurt cats or molest dogs

:lol

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe was nowhere near the top 10 in 2002.

0 MVPs, 0 FMVPs, 1xAll-NBA first team, 1xAll-defense first team.

That resume is top 50 at best.

Yet some of you Lebrony stans love to say Lebron was already Top ten when he entered the league in 2003. :lol

[RRR3]

Yet some of you Lebrony stans love to say Lebron was already Top ten when he entered the league in 2003. :lol
Literally no one says that.

[BBallZen83]

It's actually crazy how you seemingly believe he was top 10 before winning as the man.... because he wasn't.

[BBallZen83]

Yet some of you Lebrony stans love to say Lebron was already Top ten when he entered the league in 2003. :lol

I've never personally seen anyone on this board say that.... because... it would be going full retard.

[RRR3]

I've never personally seen anyone on this board say that.... because... it would be going full retard.
http://youtu.be/c8BdeQueWYc

[Dragonyeuw]

Kobe was top 10 after his first 3 rings considering that Duncan only had 1 at that point to match, so he was behind Shaq & Kobe in terms of accolades



Nobody considered Duncan top 10 back in the early 2000's, so not sure why he's drawn into this post. Nobody considered Kobe top 10 either, it wasn't until he established himself after Shaq left, won MVP and rings/FMVPs that he planted himself inside the top ten. But back in 2002? Top ten? Not even close.

[BBallZen83]

http://youtu.be/c8BdeQueWYc

Nice! Glad you are familiar with Bosch (not a typo for strictly BBall fans). Also a huge fan of Bruegel, Caravaggio, Dali, among others. I tend towards the mystical and dark I guess.

[rmt]

Kobe was top 10 after his first 3 rings considering that Duncan only had 1 at that point to match, so he was behind Shaq & Kobe in terms of accolades

He was ranked in the top 10 range during the mid 2000s with all those crazy games he had on garbage teams, it was consensus he was the next Jordan, but the knock was that he couldn't win without Shaq. After he won the MVP and led the Lakers to the Finals in 08 and carried team USA in the clutch in Beijing, he was already getting top 5 considerations from coaches and ex-players. After he won b2b he was getting top 3 all-time hype, some even said he would end up as the GOAT.

It is what it is, if the Lakers didn't fall off after 2010 and 3-peated in 11 vs Miami (if Kobe and Pau play like they did in 09 and 10), Kobe right now would be consensus 2nd all-time behind MJ.

Some people are just deluded. :banghead:

[RRR3]

Nice! Glad you are familiar with Bosch (not a typo for strictly BBall fans). Also a huge fan of Bruegel, Caravaggio, Dali, among others. I tend towards the mystical and dark I guess.
Not really familiar so much as curious about your avatar haha. So I did some research and found that video which I am in the middle of now

[HOoopCityJones]

Literally no one says that.

Are you a Lebron stan? :biggums:

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe would have no argument over Pippen all time after '02, let alone being anywhere near the top 10. Kobe had 2 legit superstar seasons at that point of his career, he wouldn't even be ranked higher than Bill Walton

[The Iron Fist]

Kobe would have no argument over Pippen all time after '02, let alone being anywhere near the top 10. Kobe had 2 legit superstar seasons at that point of his career, he wouldn't even be ranked higher than Bill Walton:facepalm
Uh, he beat Pippen to get to the finals.

[kennethgriffin]

:facepalm
Uh, he beat Pippen to get to the finals.




this ^ ... kobe routinely f*cked pippens prolapsed an*s


kobe was a better player than pippen ever was by 2001


infact.. theres only a handful of guys in nba history as good as 2001 kobe. thats when he hit his 30ppg/7rpg/6ast playoffs

[dazzer87]

:facepalm
Uh, he beat Pippen to get to the finals.
Wow a guy in this prime with a prime time Shaq beating a dude thats playing in this 13 yr in the league......:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ShackEelOKneel]

:facepalm
Uh, he beat Pippen to get to the finals.

Shaq had nothing to do with it. And Pippen was in his prime too if I recall.

[ShawkFactory]

Shaq had nothing to do with it. And Pippen was in his prime too if I recall.
He didn't. And it was his peak.

[KG215]

Shaq had nothing to do with it. And Pippen was in his prime too if I recall.
Yeah, and at the time Maurice Cheeks was pretty much on par with Phil Jackson as a coach if I recall correctly.

[unbreakable]

thats dumb

at the time back in 2002 the top players all time were


- kareem 6 rings, 2fmvps, 6 mvps
- jordan 6 rings, 6fmvps, 5 mvps
- russell 11 rings, 0 fmvps, 5 mvps
- magic 5 rings, 3 fmvps, 3 mvps
- wilt 2 rings, 1 fmvp, 4 mvps
- bird 3 rings, 2 fmvps, 3 mvps
- shaq 3 rings, 3 fmvps, 1 mvp
- hakeem 2 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- oscar 1 ring, 0 fmvps, 1 mvp
- west 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 0 mvp
- moses 1 ring, 1fmvp, 3 mvp
- duncan 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1mvp
- dr j 1 ring, 0 fmvp, 1 mvp ( had ABA achievements too )
- kobe 3 rings, 0 fmvp, 0 mvp
- baylor 0 rings, 0 rmvp, 0 mvp



by 2002 kobe was 14th all time




then by 2009

- kareem 6 rings, 2fmvps, 6 mvps
- jordan 6 rings, 6fmvps, 5 mvps
- russell 11 rings, 0 fmvps, 5 mvps
- magic 5 rings, 3 fmvps, 3 mvps
- wilt 2 rings, 1 fmvp, 4 mvps
- bird 3 rings, 2 fmvps, 3 mvps
- shaq 4 rings, 3 fmvps, 1 mvp
- duncan 4 rings, 3 fmvps, 2 mvps
- kobe 4 rings, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp
- hakeem 2 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- oscar 1 ring, 0 fmvps, 1 mvp
- west 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 0 mvp
- moses 1 ring, 1fmvp, 3 mvp
- dr j 1 ring, 0 fmvp, 1 mvp ( had ABA achievements too )
- baylor 0 rings, 0 rmvp, 0 mvp


kobe was 9th all time







then by 2010

- kareem 6 rings, 2fmvps, 6 mvps
- jordan 6 rings, 6fmvps, 5 mvps
- russell 11 rings, 0 fmvps, 5 mvps
- magic 5 rings, 3 fmvps, 3 mvps
- kobe 5 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- wilt 2 rings, 1 fmvp, 4 mvps
- bird 3 rings, 2 fmvps, 3 mvps
- shaq 3 rings, 3 fmvps, 1 mvp
- hakeem 2 rings, 2 fmvps, 1 mvp
- oscar 1 ring, 0 fmvps, 1 mvp
- west 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 0 mvp
- moses 1 ring, 1fmvp, 3 mvp
- duncan 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1mvp
- dr j 1 ring, 0 fmvp, 1 mvp ( had ABA achievements too )
- baylor 0 rings, 0 rmvp, 0 mvp


kobe was 5th all time


i agree w everything but DAMN u hating on duncan hard... duncan is a top 3 player all time with his achievements on both ends as an anchor and leader.

almost makes ur whole rep untrustworthy.

[ArbitraryWater]

This was in 2003:

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/slam-magazines-top-75-nba-players-of-all-time.38461/

Kobe 59? kenneth told he he was top 12 at this point


Yet some of you Lebrony stans love to say Lebron was already Top ten when he entered the league in 2003. :lol

Yet again you try to make a point on something thats never ever even been said...

Kobetards level is low, oh so low.

[CJ Mustard]

:oldlol: People were still arguing Kobe/T-Mac in like 2007. He wasn't remotely close to top 10. Maybe top 10 in the league at that particular time.

[Nash]

This was in 2003:

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/slam-magazines-top-75-nba-players-of-all-time.38461/
#59, yeah OP sounds close to your top 10 estimation.

lol you know how fu..cked some of these dicussions we have here are when I see that list.
That was pre agendas and kobe fanboys.

[Mr Feeny]

#59, yeah OP sounds close to your top 10 estimation.

lol you know how fu..cked some of these dicussions we have here are when I see that list.
That was pre agendas and kobe fanboys.

:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:

[DMV2]

He was an AllStar his sophomore season while coming off the bench averaging 15PPG on 42% shooting.

Just to show how big the hype machine was for Bean.

All because the league needed somebody to replace Air Jordan.

[Mr Feeny]

He was an AllStar his sophomore season while coming off the bench averaging 15PPG on 42% shooting.

Just to show how big the hype machine was for Bean.

All because the league needed somebody to replace Air Jordan.

That location :lol

[DMV2]

I don't remember the exact magazine (SLAM?), but they had him on the cover and called him the best basketball player alive. This was like 2000 or 2001.

Yeah, the best player alive wasn't even close to being the best player on his own team. :roll:

The media had Kobe on that all-time great hype machine while he was a benchwarmer, a sidekick, a Robin. All fabricated though just because they wanted a new Air Jordan.

[TheBigVeto]

Dude wasn't even 25 yet, and already securd his place among legends:bowdown: He did it all with no hype coming out of high school, but instead, questions about his ability, his draft, etc. Then, he secures top 5 GOAT when he won back to back FMVPs after virtually everyone didn't think he could even get close.

Then you have to look at Lbron. Not even top 15 with not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR finals losses. :roll:

That is not crazy, it is just untrue.

What is crazy is we have people who even considered that.

[The Iron Fist]

That is not crazy, it is just untrue.

What is crazy is we have people who even considered that.
You can't name 10 better players better than 3 peat Kobe.

[Kvnzhangyay]

He's in the 7-11 range