The Nick Collison's of the world will be out of the NBA in 20 years

[You Cant Ban Me]

They are dinosaurs who dont belong in this era

joakim noah
robert sacre
nick collison
Zaza Pachulia
chris kaman
tiago splitter
luke ridnour
all the knicks big men from last yr except quincy acy/ amare


i could keep giving example but you get what im trying to say enjoy these last dinosaurs while they are in the league cause they will be gone in 20 years

[Braincells]

The only dinosaur is Chris Bosh.

Not sure what Robert Sacre is doing on a NBA roster. Laker fans already want Upshaw to replace him.

[GIF REACTION]

So does that mean lightskins will become the new Nick Collison's?

[FireDavidKahn]

:facepalm If anything they will be valued more. With the growth of analytic's their impact will be even more visible. Collison's are great for that 7th man role. Taking charges, playing discipline team d, plying for the team and not themselves, playing smart.

Yeah, the NBA doesn't need more of that.:rolleyes:

idiot.

[You Cant Ban Me]

:facepalm If anything they will be valued more. With the growth of analytic's their impact will be even more visible. Collison's are great for that 7th man role. Taking charges, playing discipline team d, plying for the team and not themselves, playing smart.

Yeah, the NBA doesn't need more of that.:rolleyes:

idiot.
You can get all this stuff with the draymond greens/paul milsaps of the world but with more speed, more height, and more strength aka bigger stronger faster

o yeah and you can actually start them and win

idiot.

[Svendiggity]

You can get all this stuff with the draymond greens/paul milsaps of the world but with more speed, more height, and more strength aka bigger stronger faster

o yeah and you can actually start them and win

idiot.

for like 15 million more dollars

[fpliii]

for like 15 million more dollars
Yep. There's a cap. Draymond Green is a plus minus monster like not many others but he's going to cost you a ton today. With how big a role analytics play in front office decisions, the elite impact players in the league today are going to command a small fortune, even if they don't check off the PPG box.

[You Cant Ban Me]

for like 15 million more dollars
nah the league will be flooded with bigs with actual skill + athleticism

so the price will come down

[outbreak]

Teams love hustle guys who are happy coming off the bench

[ProfessorMurder]

nah the league will be flooded with bigs with actual skill + athleticism

:roll:

[Svendiggity]

nah the league will be flooded with bigs with actual skill + athleticism

so the price will come down

not all stretch 4s play defense and rebound like draymond. a lot are soft like channing frye. there will always be a spot for big gritty players until there's 50 draymond greens and I doubt that happens.

[NumberSix]

I agree. Nick Collison will definitely be out of the NBA 20 years from now.

[FireDavidKahn]

You can get all this stuff with the draymond greens/paul milsaps of the world but with more speed, more height, and more strength aka bigger stronger faster

o yeah and you can actually start them and win

idiot.
:oldlol: Ya, because those guy are SO plentiful.

Idiot.

[You Cant Ban Me]

:oldlol: Ya, because those guy are SO plentiful.

Idiot.
The league will weed out those who cant compete....Natural Selection even in sports.The league will be filled with skilled bigs w/ athleticism until the next thing comes around


idiot

[You Cant Ban Me]

So does that mean lightskins will become the new Nick Collison's?
what does this have to do with race?:facepalm

[Swaggin916]

I agree. Nick Collison will definitely be out of the NBA 20 years from now.

First thing that's made any sense in this thread thus far

[FireDavidKahn]

The league will weed out those who cant compete....Natural Selection even in sports.The league will be filled with skilled bigs w/ athleticism until the next thing comes around


idiot
You don't realize that there is an upper limit to what the human body is even capable of. Unless you can genetically modify a human to have significant more fast twitch muscles, players aren't going to get *that* much more athletic.

[Myth]

They are dinosaurs who dont belong in this era

joakim noah
robert sacre
nick collison
Zaza Pachulia
chris kaman
tiago splitter
luke ridnour
all the knicks big men from last yr except quincy acy/ amare


i could keep giving example but you get what im trying to say enjoy these last dinosaurs while they are in the league cause they will be gone in 20 years

I agree. None of those guys will be in the NBA in 20 years.

[warriorfan]

op is going to be dead or in jail in 20 years

[imdaman99]

I agree. Nick Collison will definitely be out of the NBA 20 years from now.
If he plays 2 mins a game, he can play for another 25 years with effectiveness.

Hustle guys are important, what were you saying about Charles Oakley OP? Or were you not born yet?

[Thorpesaurous]

I actually think the less athletic smart player will actually have a bigger roll moving forward as long as the league keeps the zone rules, and as teams continue to tweet with ways to exploit them.

Skill based things like shooting, passing, ball handling, and quick decision making will be more valuable on offense. And the gap of not being able to close the gap defensively has already seen itself limited because smart players are allowed to be in better position sooner now.

I do think you'll see more pure athletes on teams who choose to try to go after things defensively, by trying to close out all the across the court. But I'm guessing that will be rarer. And my guess is the Collison type will be more valuable than the raw er athlete like Java let McGee.

And obviously a combination will make up the best players. I'm talking bench fill out types.

I think the way to move it to more pure athletes without killing the zone is to widen the floor, which is something I've supported for a decade or so.

[You Cant Ban Me]

I actually think the less athletic smart player will actually have a bigger roll moving forward as long as the league keeps the zone rules, and as teams continue to tweet with ways to exploit them.

Skill based things like shooting, passing, ball handling, and quick decision making will be more valuable on offense. And the gap of not being able to close the gap defensively has already seen itself limited because smart players are allowed to be in better position sooner now.

I do think you'll see more pure athletes on teams who choose to try to go after things defensively, by trying to close out all the across the court. But I'm guessing that will be rarer. And my guess is the Collison type will be more valuable than the raw er athlete like Java let McGee.

And obviously a combination will make up the best players. I'm talking bench fill out types.

I think the way to move it to more pure athletes without killing the zone is to widen the floor, which is something I've supported for a decade or so.
no 1 i named is considered to have a high basketball iq they are just good @ taking charges thats about it maybe noah has a high iq the rest.....nah

[Thorpesaurous]

no 1 i named is considered to have a high basketball iq they are just good @ taking charges thats about it maybe noah has a high iq the rest.....nah

With the exception of Kaman, I would disagree. Most of those guys are in the right spot at the right time type of guys.

Kaman is sort of a traditional post specialist, which I agree is probably going to die, unless the guy is truly exceptional.

Pachulia is more of spot up 15 foot center, which will gave a place as a 9th man, which is pretty much what he is.

Sacre probably doesn't belong in the league as it is.

[Cocaine80s]

Agreed.

Id be surprised if theres still any white players in the league 20 years from now

[KNOW1EDGE]

I don't get it.

You are making fun of them for having 20 year NBA careers?

[jayfan]

I agree. Nick Collison will definitely be out of the NBA 20 years from now.



First thing that's made any sense in this thread thus far

Yep.


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[ralph_i_el]

You can get all this stuff with the draymond greens/paul milsaps of the world but with more speed, more height, and more strength aka bigger stronger faster

o yeah and you can actually start them and win

idiot.
Nick collision is bigger and stronger then either of those guys.

[knickballer]

I think there's a reason why a team like the Spurs was so successful over the decade. They didn't place a premium on the athletic monsters like Josh Smith that can slam dunk from the 3 point like the OP is mentioned but they went after the players with skill, with high IQ, players that were versatile, that played defense and understand team ball. Have any of their players been those athletic freaks?

Teams need balance. If you have a legit scorers you'll need to balance the team out with players that can play defense, spread the floor, be the "glue guy", etc. We've seen how successful teams like the Kings are that have constantly added(that OP thinks will dominate)

[KungFuJoe]

In 20 years, shooting 40% from the field will be considered efficient.