View Full Version : Why does players mentally's change when they leave college
TripleA
07-30-2015, 12:07 AM
Derrick Williams was physical beast who yammed on everyone when he left he become a inefficient jump shooting big.
Beasley was also like this he got 12 rebounds per game.
Is it money that make people change their game.
AnaheimLakers24
07-30-2015, 12:10 AM
They dont play against scrubs full time is what happens
TonyMontana
07-30-2015, 12:11 AM
Derrick Williams was physical beast who yammed on everyone when he left he become a inefficient jump shooting big.
Beasley was also like this he got 12 rebounds per game.
Is it money that make people change their game.
In that individuals case it is most likely that he dominated college competition because he was bigger, stronger than them and could "bully them". The same method did not work against bigger and better NBA players so he had to take more inefficient shots.
Some guys do fall off because of the money/lifestyle, but in this case thats not the reason.
TripleA
07-30-2015, 12:13 AM
They dont play against scrubs full time is what happens
Yeah but Tristan Thompson played worse than those guys in college and they had advantages over him like range and handle all they had to do was attack instead of settle.
outbreak
07-30-2015, 12:13 AM
Coaches see they can't dominate against bigger opponents so the player gets told to change their game to try and find something that does work for them in a much superior league.
TripleA
07-30-2015, 12:16 AM
I think it comes to basketball I.Q and environment Terrence jones played like a
chucker in college, not a bruiser like Williams and Beasley. He adapted so he focused at attacking the rim with his handle. He ended up in Houston instead of the Timberwolves which helped his development.
TheMan
07-30-2015, 12:17 AM
OP, where are you from? It's obvious English isn't your first language...at least I hope it's not :lol
ShawkFactory
07-30-2015, 12:18 AM
The same way a non-athlete's mentality changes when THEY leave college. It's about a living after that.
TripleA
07-30-2015, 12:19 AM
OP, where are you from? It's obvious English isn't your first language...at least I hope it's not :lol
Im typing on my phone and and its pretty trash. Also bad grammar. :lol
Pointguard
07-30-2015, 12:48 AM
They dont play against scrubs full time is what happens
This. A lot of guys get up for domination two to three times a week but can't handle being below average at all. It runs counter to their whole identity.
Byron Scott came into the league and really thought he was Magic Johnson with a much better jump shot and said as much to the media. So Michael Cooper didn't let him score in practice at all. That's a major blow to one's ego and these were teammates.
ClipperRevival
07-30-2015, 12:56 AM
Derrick Williams was physical beast who yammed on everyone when he left he become a inefficient jump shooting big.
Beasley was also like this he got 12 rebounds per game.
Is it money that make people change their game.
You can't teach motivation and drive. The willingness to want to get better and work at your craft. Both guys have rare athleticism/talent, even by NBA standards. And that's saying a lot. But raw talent only takes you so far. You have to be willing to put in the work and improve your game. Anytime you have guys this talented and they fail, it's between the ears. They just don't want it enough to be great and that's a shame because I would've given anything to be that physically blessed.
warriorfan
07-30-2015, 01:06 AM
college = boys
nba = men
oarabbus
07-30-2015, 03:33 AM
Who are some players opposite of Williams and Beasley mentioned in OP?
Guys who were alright, decent, or maybe even underwhelming in college... only to crush it in the NBA?
NZStreetBaller
07-30-2015, 04:19 AM
Lebrons didnt. He choked in the finals in and out of the nba.
ralph_i_el
07-30-2015, 10:27 AM
Why does players mentally's change when they leave college
:facepalm bruh
"Why do players' mentalities change when they leave college?"
Williams and Beas weren't undersized in college, they are now.
JellyBean
07-30-2015, 10:30 AM
Derrick Williams was physical beast who yammed on everyone when he left he become a inefficient jump shooting big.
Beasley was also like this he got 12 rebounds per game.
Is it money that make people change their game.
Bottom line, some players aren't that hungry. They are just happy to be at the table while others want the table, the food, and everything that is in the house!!
nathanjizzle
07-30-2015, 10:31 AM
college is a conglomerate of some talent, and some people that just worked hard to get into the sport at a collegiate level. nba requires both talent and work. beasley had talent, didnt work hard, now he plays in china.
wang4three
07-30-2015, 10:58 AM
It was pretty known in Beasley that when he went up a decent big in college, he would be rendered rather ineffective. He faced Jason Thompson and Rider early on his freshman season and was overpowered by Thompson.
That said, many teams still projected him #2 because they banked on his talent level -- even though he was overpowered by more skilled players, he was still only 19 and lots of potential.
With Derrick Williams, it was similar. He was big enough to play the 4 in college (with some 5), lots of potential, and did play even more hungry than Beasley, but he's part of the classic problem of tweener forwards in the NBA. He's not big nor skilled enough to play the 4, and he's not good enough of a shooter nor slasher to play the 3. He's just in the middle. I think the tweener forward position is one of the hardest to be in the NBA. Most of the time, the player learns a way to play more of one position (Paul Millsap, Jeff Green, Kenneth Faried, Shawn Marion, Lamar Odom, Thaddeus Young, Boris Diaw) but still can switch to present mismatches. Those who just stick between positions and needs either to be extremely lucky to find the right system or just gets lost in the fold.
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