Georgia men with Confederate flags threatens to kill children at a birthday party

[Heilige]

[QUOTE]Douglasville police are investigating a Saturday afternoon incident that, according to witnesses, involved a convoy of Confederate flag-bearing trucks interrupting a black child

[The Hick]

You left this part out little homie:



Bush said his group was leaving a nearby event when they drove by Alford’s home and the partygoers started yelling at the trucks in front of him. They then threw rocks at his vehicle, he said.


Bush said he fishtailed while trying to drive away, then ran over a median and got a flat tire. When he pulled into a nearby driveway, the partygoers swarmed and made threats, and his friends backed him up, he said.


So it was the little street rats who attacked them, not the other way around. Also nowhere does it say that they threatened to kill children. You can read right little homie?

[NumberSix]

You left this part out little homie:



So it was the little street rats who attacked them, not the other way around. Also nowhere does it say that they threatened to kill children. You can read right little homie?
You don't know that. It's one side's word vs the other.

Maybe the they attacked the truck first, maybe they didn't. We don't know.

[UK2K]

You left this part out little homie:



So it was the little street rats who attacked them, not the other way around. Also nowhere does it say that they threatened to kill children. You can read right little homie?
Amazing how two little paragraphs change the whole story.

[TheMan]

Amazing how two little paragraphs change the whole story.
I'm more amazed that the hillbilly uses words such as "homie"

[macmac]

You left this part out little homie:



So it was the little street rats who attacked them, not the other way around. Also nowhere does it say that they threatened to kill children. You can read right little homie?

The hick, a gimmick member since 06, with only 64 posts. Shows you how relevant hillbillies are. This is your time to shine buddy, with this flag controversy, the rest of America is mildly interested in your stupidity once more.

[UK2K]

This actually pretty scary. That's why they should have left the whole confederate flag thing alone, because of idiot hillbillies that ride around like this
[QUOTE]Bush said his group was leaving a nearby event when they drove by Alford

[GreggPopazit]

You left this part out little homie:



So it was the little street rats who attacked them, not the other way around. Also nowhere does it say that they threatened to kill children. You can read right little homie?

Their story sounds made up. Big pickups like those don't fishtale like that at random. They would if the ground was slick from rain or something, but it was dry.

[Droid101]

How surprising... a poster with a Confed flag avatar named "The Hick" presents a "different side" to the story and which side does UK cling to mercilessly? The realistic one where a bunch of douchey assholes make racist threats, or the other one where these poor defenseless guys in their huge trucks fishtail and get attacked by five year olds who are celebrating a birthday.

:rolleyes:

[RRR3]

How surprising... a poster with a Confed flag avatar named "The Hick" presents a "different side" to the story and which side does UK cling to mercilessly? The realistic one where a bunch of douchey assholes make racist threats, or the other one where these poor defenseless guys in their huge trucks fishtail and get attacked by five year olds who are celebrating a birthday.

:rolleyes:
The Hick, Dresta and Akrazotile caught on camera :eek:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--C1bP2X8W--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/elxtkb1ne8burnni4ztp.jpg

[KyrieTheFuture]

Shocking that UK is siding with the hicks

[UK2K]

Shocking that UK is siding with the hicks

You're allowed to fly a Confederate flag on your car without getting rocks thrown at it.

If they went over there with the expressed intent to cause trouble, then they should be charged with DTP.

It's not rocket science.

[UK2K]

There's two different sides of the story.


And since when do rocks make a full size truck fishtail and get a flat tire? :lol

It's so obvious by reading this that even if the other party did throw rocks, the guys in the trucks were up to no good to start with.

"leaving a nearby event" :lol

"fishtailed while trying to drive away" :lol


I'm not saying he's lying, but if that isn't the sketchiest sounding story I've ever heard..

From another article:


Bush told Belanger the group was driving around conducting a fundraiser and the reason they stopped on the grass near the birthday party was because he got a flat tire. Bush said people at the predominately-black birthday party approached his group in a hostile manner and that’s when the situation escalated.

"Do you think this was a giant misunderstanding?” Belanger asked.
“I think it could have been because we had black people with us in our caravan and Mexican people with us," Bush said.

I believe the news source is making the story sound sketchy intentionally. Maybe the Mexicans and blacks with them were racist too? Or were there blacks and Mexicans with them? Who knows. The news obviously doesn't.

[GreggPopazit]

From another article:



I believe the news source is making the story sound sketchy intentionally. Maybe the Mexicans and blacks with them were racist too? Or were there blacks and Mexicans with them? Who knows. The news obviously doesn't.

So that version of the story is different from the truckers' other story. They can't even keep it straight. Also, there were no reports of the truckers having people of different races with them other than their after the fact report, which has already been inconsistent.

[KingBeasley08]

damn that's messed up. why are hicks so obsessed with the Confederacy? They got they asses handed to them during that war :lol

http://i.imgur.com/SbTp9xY.jpg

[KyrieTheFuture]

Sweet conflicting stories from the rednecks

[GreggPopazit]

damn that's messed up. why are hicks so obsessed with the Confederacy? They got they asses handed to them during that war :lol

http://i.imgur.com/SbTp9xY.jpg

Because they agree with racist values :confusedshrug:

[KingBeasley08]

Because they agree with racist values :confusedshrug:
A lot of them genuinely convinced themselves that slavery had nothing to do with it and it was about 'state rights'. Never mind that in South Carolina's succession document, they say they're leaving because they're scared that Lincoln will abolish slavery

If Lincoln came back to life today and saw all the Modern Day Republicans carrying Confederate Flags, he'd jump back into his grave

[UK2K]

So that version of the story is different from the truckers' other story. They can't even keep it straight. Also, there were no reports of the truckers having people of different races with them other than their after the fact report, which has already been inconsistent.
Which is why this is pretty cut and dry.

If they instigated a confrontation, they'll be charged. If they instigated a confrontation and brandished a weapon, they'll be charged with that too.

But until anything is proven, its she said/he said.

ISH assumes the rednecks are guilty. Why? Is it so hard to just wait until charges are filed, or not filed?

[UK2K]

A lot of them genuinely convinced themselves that slavery had nothing to do with it and it was about 'state rights'. Never mind that in South Carolina's succession document, they say they're leaving because they're scared that Lincoln will abolish slavery

If Lincoln came back to life today and saw all the Modern Day Republicans carrying Confederate Flags, he'd jump back into his grave

Which was a state right. Slavery was a state right. So now matter how you want to frame it, it was over states rights (including the right to own slaves). You do know slavery was a state right, right? Or didn't you?

The unfair taxes were also about states rights, but that never seems to be mentioned.. Only slavery, cause that's what causes controversy.

[KingBeasley08]

Which was a state right. Slavery was a state right. So now matter how you want to frame it, it was over states rights (including the right to own slaves). You do know slavery was a state right, right? Or didn't you?

The unfair taxes were also about states rights, but that never seems to be mentioned.. Only slavery, cause that's what causes controversy.
Yes, a state's right to own slaves. That's a far cry from succession not being about slavery at all when it was the biggest cause. Truth is without slavery, they don't pull out. Remember they didn't haul ass cause Lincoln passed any Anti-Slavery bills but because they were scared he would.

Ironically, by going to war with the North, Lincoln was able to actually work towards abolition. Before that, he was willing to placate the South and let them keep their slaves in an attempt to keep the Union together

[GreggPopazit]

Which is why this is pretty cut and dry.

If they instigated a confrontation, they'll be charged. If they instigated a confrontation and brandished a weapon, they'll be charged with that too.

But until anything is proven, its she said/he said.

ISH assumes the rednecks are guilty. Why? Is it so hard to just wait until charges are filed, or not filed?

Because the rednecks can't keep their own story straight, which indicates that they are lying.

They are also the ones driving by with flags associated with intimidating black people. It seems like too much of a coincidence that they can't seem to tell a consistent story, and just happened to have a flat tire next to a group of black people while carrying a flag (many of them actually) known as a common symbol of intimidation. We will never have proof unless a video comes out documenting the whole incident, but until then, all we have is evidence and more evidence points towards them.

[GreggPopazit]

Which was a state right. Slavery was a state right. So now matter how you want to frame it, it was over states rights (including the right to own slaves). You do know slavery was a state right, right? Or didn't you?

The unfair taxes were also about states rights, but that never seems to be mentioned.. Only slavery, cause that's what causes controversy.

The only state right they cared about was enslaving black people. That is inherently racist, so although their argument was about state rights, it also had everything to do with being racists. Saying state rights is not inaccurate, but it is also code for "We want to keep our N*****s as slaves!"

[TheMan]

Shocking that UK is siding with the hicks
The richest part is that he's a mutt, only half white, his "good side" I guess :rolleyes:

Dude is real life Clayton Bigsby :oldlol:

[NumberSix]

The only state right they cared about was enslaving black people. That is inherently racist, so although their argument was about state rights, it also had everything to do with being racists. Saying state rights is not inaccurate, but it is also code for "We want to keep our N*****s as slaves!"
Yes and no.

If something isn't in the constitution, it's under the authority of each state to legislate.

At the time, each state actually did have the right to decide whether slavery was legal or not. As horrific as it is, the federal government actually did not have a legal right to tell states to ban slavery. It actually was literally each state's right to make that decision.

The right way to eliminate the evil of slavery, was to amend it to the constitution, which of course they later did.

It actually was a state's rights issue...... The right to make their own laws regarding slavery in that case.

[ShackEelOKneel]

The richest part is that he's a mutt, only half white, his "good side" I guess :rolleyes:

Dude is real life Clayton Bigsby :oldlol:

Do we have proof of that, or is that just something he said to give weight to what he says in race topics?

[NumberSix]

The richest part is that he's a mutt, only half white, his "good side" I guess :rolleyes:

Dude is real life Clayton Bigsby :oldlol:
So?

[UK2K]

Because the rednecks can't keep their own story straight, which indicates that they are lying.

They are also the ones driving by with flags associated with intimidating black people. It seems like too much of a coincidence that they can't seem to tell a consistent story, and just happened to have a flat tire next to a group of black people while carrying a flag (many of them actually) known as a common symbol of intimidation. We will never have proof unless a video comes out documenting the whole incident, but until then, all we have is evidence and more evidence points towards them.

And once again, you assume.

Do you know thats why they did it?

See, so quick to point the finger, you dont care about credibility or validity. You care about your side winning. That's all.

I dont think its known as a common symbol of intimidation at all. Because you are intimidated by it, doesnt mean everyone is afraid of a piece of cloth.

[UK2K]

Do we have proof of that, or is that just something he said to give weight to what he says in race topics?

Pretty sure my mother is Filipino.

Let me check.....








Yep. She still is.

[ShackEelOKneel]

And once again, you assume.

Do you know thats why they did it?

See, so quick to point the finger, you dont care about credibility or validity. You care about your side winning. That's all.

I dont think its known as a common symbol of intimidation at all. Because you are intimidated by it, doesnt mean everyone is afraid of a piece of cloth.

Yes, all 3 versions of the story (the story from the black people, and the 2 different stories from the white people) indicate that they were driving by and had confederate flags on their trucks. There was also video of them driving by with the flags.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Pretty sure my mother is Filipino.

Let me check.....








Yep. She still is.

That was fast, you must live with your mother.

[TheMan]

So?
Legit white supremacists need to be 100% white, go check St0rmfront

[ShackEelOKneel]

I dont think its known as a common symbol of intimidation at all.

You must be a complete moron if you have not realized that it is intentionally used by many to intimidate black people.

[UK2K]

Yes, all 3 versions of the story (the story from the black people, and the 2 different stories from the white people) indicate that they were driving by and had confederate flags on their trucks. There was also video of them driving by with the flags.

That's not what I asked.

[GreggPopazit]

And once again, you assume.

Do you know thats why they did it?

See, so quick to point the finger, you dont care about credibility or validity. You care about your side winning. That's all.

I dont think its known as a common symbol of intimidation at all. Because you are intimidated by it, doesnt mean everyone is afraid of a piece of cloth.

This guy is straight up trolling. :facepalm

[UK2K]

That was fast, you must live with your mother.

Nah, I live with yours.

Surprise, son!

[UK2K]

This guy is straight up trolling. :facepalm

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ALobUxLvR58/VYtDVdTQjUI/AAAAAAAAM78/UGiB4nHMIDs/s1600/BlackConfed02.jpg

He is so ****ing intimidated.

Holy shit.

Look at the fear in his face.

Because you are scared of it, doesn't mean everyone is. Again, you only care about winning. That's all.

[ShackEelOKneel]

That's not what I asked.

It sure as hell looks like what you asked. Why don't you modify your question, because it seemed like you asked me a direct question based on the bold parts of the quote.

[RidonKs]

why aren't all the other georgian men with confederate flags denouncing this madness?

#notallgeorgianmenwithconfederateflags

[UK2K]

You must be a complete moron if you have not realized that it is intentionally used by many to intimidate black people.

http://nairobinews.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Wanyama-t-shirt-II.jpg

http://www.africanglobe.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Black-Woman-Confederate-Flag-2.jpg

Are they intimidating blacks too? Anti-anti-racists?

[GreggPopazit]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ALobUxLvR58/VYtDVdTQjUI/AAAAAAAAM78/UGiB4nHMIDs/s1600/BlackConfed02.jpg

He is so ****ing intimidated.

Holy shit.

Look at the fear in his face.

Because you are scared of it, doesn't mean everyone is. Again, you only care about winning. That's all.

So 1 black moron and it wipes out the 150 years of white people using it to intimidate black people? Never even heard of the KKK? Again, you are just trolling.

Edit: Ok a few morons. That doesn't make it used less as a symbol of intimidation.

[UK2K]

It sure as hell looks like what you asked. Why don't you modify your question, because it seemed like you asked me a direct question based on the bold parts of the quote.

No you stupid ****. Learn to read.


They are also the ones driving by with flags associated with intimidating black people.

And I asked:


Do you know thats why they did it?

What does your response have to do with what I asked?

[UK2K]

So 1 black moron and it wipes out the 150 years of white people using it to intimidate black people? Never even heard of the KKK? Again, you are just trolling.

Edit: Ok a few morons. That doesn't make it used less as a symbol of intimidation.

I can go on for days. Want more?

Why aren't they intimidated?

[ShackEelOKneel]

No you stupid ****. Learn to read.



And I asked:



What does your response have to do with what I asked?

You need to learn to read.

Fact: They were driving with the flag.

Fact: The flag is often associated with use to intimidate black people.

Fact: You asked "Do you know thats why they did it?"

Fact: I answered to confirm that I know that is what they did.


I did not say it was a fact that they were using the flag intentionally for intimidation purposes. That was you not reading properly.

[GreggPopazit]

I can go on for days. Want more?

Why aren't they intimidated?

Your examples of people not being intimidated does not mean others have not used it with the intent to intimidate. I'm sorry for you if you are too stupid to understand that.

[GreggPopazit]

You need to learn to read.

Fact: They were driving with the flag.

Fact: The flag is often associated with use to intimidate black people.

Fact: You asked "Do you know thats why they did it?"

Fact: I answered to confirm that I know that is what they did.


I did not say it was a fact that they were using the flag intentionally for intimidation purposes. That was you not reading properly.

Just leave it be dude. The guy is obviously trolling and is intentionally changing peoples' points to troll them further.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Just leave it be dude. The guy is obviously trolling and is intentionally changing peoples' points to troll them further.

Yeah, good call. :cheers:

[TheMan]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YdAacBURVXE/S75t6EbfJ5I/AAAAAAAAFcA/Z8F9QfTrssI/s1600/confederate-flag-klansman-noose.jpg

[UK2K]

You need to learn to read.

Fact: They were driving with the flag.

Fact: The flag is often associated with use to intimidate black people.

Fact: You asked "Do you know thats why they did it?"

Fact: I answered to confirm that I know that is what they did.


I did not say it was a fact that they were using the flag intentionally for intimidation purposes. That was you not reading properly.

Fact: Your facts are not facts.

Fact: I asked if he knew the reason they were flying the flag was for intimidation. I then pointed out that he didn't know for a fact, he was assuming, because he only cares about winning and not knowing the truth.

You responded with:


Yes, all 3 versions of the story (the story from the black people, and the 2 different stories from the white people) indicate that they were driving by and had confederate flags on their trucks. There was also video of them driving by with the flags.

The first word of your post is Yes.

But you don't know. So you're lying? It's a simple question...DO you know the reason they were flying the flag was to intimidate blacks? He didn't which is why he didnt respond.

[UK2K]

Your examples of people not being intimidated does not mean others have not used it with the intent to intimidate. I'm sorry for you if you are too stupid to understand that.

Im sorry you think everyone needs to believe what you do. I really am. Life must be tough for you then.

[KingBeasley08]

Hey Georgia..

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52139390.jpg

[Goro]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/12/448075177/confederate-flag-supporters-in-georgia-indicted-on-terrorism-charges

Terrorism charges :oldlol:

[Dresta]

Hey Georgia..

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52139390.jpg
You think that's funny do you? Amusing that you would think a war that plunged the South into extreme backwardness, depleted an entire generation of young men, and from which it has barely emerged, is something to make fun about (not to mention the sheer amount of debt and usurpations of power that had large consequences down the road). What you are doing is nothing better than kicking your subjugated enemy while he's down - basically, the lowest of the low, and a sure sign of a mean, petty and ignoble spirit. But yah, makes sense that it's ok to joke about the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, but so so wrong to defend your economic interests from a growing hegemonic power.


And i wish you clowns would stop dismissing states rights as if it were some kind of imaginary issue; throughout the entire constitutional convention, and the entirety of US history, the balance of power between state and federal levels has been the issue of American politics. It predates the schisms over slavery, and would have been a problem without slavery (ever heard of the Hartford convention? When New England was threatening secession? I doubt it...). America was founded on the revolutionary spirit, and it repeatedly supported revolutions abroad - it was always only a matter of time before the principle of secession was tested. The theory of compact, held by the bulk of the original founders, as well as Daniel Webster, asserted the states had entered the Union voluntarily, and delegated some of their sovereignty to the Federal Union; thus it follows logically that a voluntary membership can be relinquished, and that question always needed to be settled, with or without slavery.

[Dresta]

The only state right they cared about was enslaving black people. That is inherently racist, so although their argument was about state rights, it also had everything to do with being racists. Saying state rights is not inaccurate, but it is also code for "We want to keep our N*****s as slaves!"
That's simply an outright lie. Get your facts straight.

National banks, tariffs, and Federal-funded internal improvements have nought to do with slavery. What the South was particularly opposed to was the monied merchant class of the North, using its wealth to gain favour with the Federal government, and overrunning their way of life with legions of bankers, legislatures, judges, lawyers and speculators. The South, in fact, was the only part of the United States that didn't give fealty to the God of Mammon. The only people willing to say: some things are more important than pecuniary gain. Their way of life was being overrun by their richer neighbours, and if you were one of them, this would piss you off and make you think about leaving too.


I find it quite remarkable how ignorant Americans are of their own history - their history books must be written by social workers or something, because their opinions read much like the fanciful dreams of an ideal-driven social worker.

[UK2K]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/12/448075177/confederate-flag-supporters-in-georgia-indicted-on-terrorism-charges

Terrorism charges :oldlol:

Based on the idea that these guys were a street gang, which won't stick.

Basically, they had nothing to charge them with, so they found something. The story made headlines, so they need to charge them with something, anything. Nothing new.

[QUOTE]Ms. Lynch said that the law had been used to prosecute members of rap groups who have some affiliation with criminal gangs, but are not gang members themselves. Prosecutors, she said, often use the statute to

[stalkerforlife]

Did the black people start the problem?

Just ignore the flag, dude...no matter how stupid you may think it is.

[Goro]

Based on the idea that these guys were a street gang, which won't stick.

Basically, they had nothing to charge them with, so they found something. The story made headlines, so they need to charge them with something, anything. Nothing new.

Of course her name is Ms. Lynch :lol

[NumberSix]

Of course her name is Ms. Lynch :lol
Is she an Irish?

[KyrieTheFuture]

Hey Georgia..

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52139390.jpg
Sherman is one of the worst people to be born on American Soil