Silverback Gorilla vs Kodiak Bear: The final battle

[Nick Young]

Silverback Gorilla is clearly the king of the ape kingdom in terms of battling ability, able to take on an Orangutang, Chimpanzee, humanity's champion Brock Lesnar and a baboon in 1 v 1 combat with ease.


Silverback Gorilla is the ape's champion-but is he the land predator champion?

Kodiak bear is the world's biggest bear

Usually bears are friendly creatures, but when hungry and desperate they go in to full murder mode.


If the Kodiak Bear and Silverback Gorilla are both in bloodlust mode, and fighting for the right to bang Sable, who wins this battle?



I'd say bear due to his slicing claws and chomping jaws, but does he have the strength to survive Silverback's initial rush and strike attack? Silverback is the more intelligent fighter but Kodiak is pure beastly rage.

WHO YOU GOT?

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BONUS EXTRA CREDIT: Do you think a blood lusted Siberian Tiger has a chance vs either?

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Ronda by armbar

[SugarHill]

kodiak and it's not even close

also, polar bears are bigger

[Nick Young]

kodiak and it's not even close

also, polar bears are bigger
I feel like Polar bears are longer but Kodiaks have more strength and explosiveness.

[Nick Young]

Did some research. Polar bears are heavier on average, but the largest Kodiak ever recorded is 2,500 pounds and the largest Polar is 2,210.

In terms of length, Kodiaks are on average 7-10 feet and polars are 8-8.4 feet.

For the sake of the battle, we will go with 2,500 pound Yao Ming Kodiak Bear, vs Silverback Gorilla champion, whoever the Lesnar of the gorilla world is.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/bear.html


Do you really think a Kodiak can handle Silverback's speed and agility advantage, as well as its ground and pound game?

[Nick Young]

great post here:

The grizzly bear can only lift about 1102 pounds whereas the gorilla can lift over 4409 lbs that is more than to family cars. Next i will start with body mass and height the grizzly does get UP TO 8 feet but has an average of 5 to 6 feet (a common mistake) , less impressively the gorilla averages 5.5 to 5.9. feet. As for weight, the gorilla averages between 215 lbs and 484 lbs and the grizzly averages 1190 in weight. (easily thrown around by the gorilla). As for intellect the grizzly is easily outmatched no explanation needed. As for fighting styles the gorillas style is much like humans with punching and biting and also tackling, which they have arms nearly as long as their bodies for long distance powerful blows, and many forget this but they have been known to pick up and utilize boulders as weapons and tools for combat. They also can climb on their opponents back with their tremendous agility and beat them from behind with powerful blows possibly to the spine or rib cage. The grizzly uses a mauling technique a primitive animal instinct, and does have some advantage its claws and height but as I said earlier its weight means nothing because of how strong the gorilla is. And ill also factor in speed which does no really matter close range but ill do it. the average running top speed of a grizzly is 30 mph compared to the gorilla which is 25 is not that significantly damaging. (THE GRIZZLY IS NOT MUCH FASTER AT ALL). Finally biting force the biting force of a gorilla is surprisingly more than a grizzly I did not even know this I had to do research gorilla at jaw shattering 1300 pounds per square inch and grizzly at 1200 pounds per square inch the gorilla wins and takes my vote. I think the gorilla because it is nimble would get on the back of the grizzly and use its devastating strength to break ribs and possibly the grizzlies spine and if this failed it would pick up a 3000 lb bolder and finish the job. thank you for reading
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070521135425AAAHKxJ

Silverbacks can life over 4,000 pounds which means they easily have the strength to life or knock over a bear. Gorilla also has stronger jaws than the bear! I think if gorilla is smart he can get Bear in a rear naked choke and then bite his throat out.

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great post here:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070521135425AAAHKxJ

Silverbacks can life over 4,000 pounds which means they easily have the strength to life or knock over a bear. Gorilla also has stronger jaws than the bear! I think if gorilla is smart he can get Bear in a rear naked choke and then bite his throat out.
Not to mention Gorillas HAVE THUMBS. Imagine what kind of evil thumbs can do. While the bear is trying to bite the gorilla, he gouges his eyes out. Plus a Gorilla has a 7 foot wingspan. they can work from the bottom and use their INSANE strength to rip limbs/tear apart jaws.

[NumberSix]

Gorilla has no chance whatsoever vs a bear or a tiger.

Gorillas are strong, but they aren't made to kill like a bear or a tiger is. You generally shouldn't compare killers to plant eaters unless the strength difference is to the point of ridiculousness like a lion vs an elephant.

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Gorilla has no chance whatsoever vs a bear or a tiger.

Gorillas are strong, but they aren't made to kill like a bear or a tiger is. You generally shouldn't compare killers to plant eaters unless the strength difference is to the point of ridiculousness like a lion vs an elephant.
Poor argument.

Hippos, elephants and rhinos are plant eaters, yet they absolutely WHOOP a lion or a tiger. Hippo MAULS them.

[NumberSix]

Poor argument.

Hippos, elephants and rhinos are plant eaters, yet they absolutely WHOOP a lion or a tiger. Hippo MAULS them.
Are you not able to read?

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Are you not able to read?
The strength difference between a Gorilla and a Bear (4400 pounds to 1000 pounds) is a RIDICULOUS difference, 3x as strong.

[Nick Young]

Gorilla has no chance whatsoever vs a bear or a tiger.

Gorillas are strong, but they aren't made to kill like a bear or a tiger is. You generally shouldn't compare killers to plant eaters unless the strength difference is to the point of ridiculousness like a lion vs an elephant.
Gorillia is smarter, more agile, and has strength advantage, being able to lift 4,000 pounds. I'd like to see a bear do that. If a silverback fights smart and avoids getting clawed in a vital region, I think it has a decent chance, especially if it knows how to go for choke outs.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Smaller leopards prey on gorillas, so it ain't going to have a chance against a grizzly or tiger. Plus it doesn't have the offensive weaponry other than strength and 2 big teeth, which are almost useless against the grizzlies thick hide and enormous neck.

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I'd wager a Gorilla has a better chance to beat an elephant than a kodiak bear does

Imagine the gorilla climbing up the elephant and biting the hell out of it, tear its trunk right off and snap a tusk off and impale the elephants brain.

Primates? Dominates.

[9erempiree]

I got the California Bear.

As a Californian, I would have to root for the bear.

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Smaller leopards prey on gorillas, so it ain't going to have a chance against a grizzly or tiger. Plus it doesn't have the offensive weaponry other than strength and 2 big teeth, which are almost useless against the grizzlies thick hide and enormous neck.
Bad argument detected.

Leopards are known for nipping off females and younglings because Gorillas travel in gangs. They are almost always females or young gorillas and it is always an ambush from out of nowhere or when they are sleeping. Check your sources. Primates beat felines. There was a fighting monkey back in Europe in the 1800's. It used to go up against cats and dogs and it would always beat them the same way... It allowed them to strike with their jaws, and then the monkey would slip under and bite the neck, utilizing the primates elite mobility and climbing.

[NumberSix]

Gorillia is smarter, more agile, and has strength advantage, being able to lift 4,000 pounds. I'd like to see a bear do that. If a silverback fights smart and avoids getting clawed in a vital region, I think it has a decent chance, especially if it knows how to go for choke outs.
A gorilla is dumb. If it could think like a human, it could win..... but it can't think like a human. Gorillas don't do MMA choke holds or Shaolin Kung fu. It has less intelligence than a retarded human.

Also, get the hell outta here with that "able to lift 4,000 pounds". Their upper body is strong, but you're a retard if you think its legs can support lifting 4,000 pounds.

[Nick Young]

Smaller leopards prey on gorillas, so it ain't going to have a chance against a grizzly or tiger. Plus it doesn't have the offensive weaponry other than strength and 2 big teeth, which are almost useless against the grizzlies thick hide and enormous neck.
I have a feeling that leopards attack gorillas Assassin's Creed ninja style and rarely face off in 1v1 combat.


On a field, in straight 1v1 combat, charging at each other from 20 yards away, I feel like gorilla would be able to take down a leopard pretty easily.

[SugarHill]

I have a feeling that leopards attack gorillas Assassin's Creed ninja style and rarely face off in 1v1 combat.


On a field, in straight 1v1 combat, charging at each other from 20 yards away, I feel like gorilla would be able to take down a leopard pretty easily.

what is this? beast wars?

[NumberSix]

I have a feeling that leopards attack gorillas Assassin's Creed ninja style and rarely face off in 1v1 combat.


On a field, in straight 1v1 combat, charging at each other from 20 yards away, I feel like gorilla would be able to take down a leopard pretty easily.
No you don't. You just get a kick out of weird trolling lately.

[Nick Young]

A gorilla is dumb. If it could think like a human, it could win..... but it can't think like a human. Gorillas don't do MMA choke holds or Shaolin Kung fu. It has less intelligence than a retarded human.

Also, get the hell outta here with that "able to lift 4,000 pounds". Their upper body is strong, but you're a retard if you think its legs can support lifting 4,000 pounds.
They have been known to knock down trees in the wild.

Bear cannot approach that kind of strength.


At least 2000Kg (perhaps as much as 4000Kg) if you could train it.

I learned in exercise physiology classes that primates are at least 6x as stong as humans per kilo bodyweight. A silverback (220Kg) weighs about twice as much as a large human. So about 12x as strong as a human athlete.

Gorillas have far more stable shoulders and forelimbs (the weakest link) than humans so they are not going to have to worry about dislocations or torn tendons.

Humans muscles activate sequentially. Gorillas can activate all muscle fibres in bundle simultaneously. This give massive explosive force.
http://www.quora.com/How-much-can-a-silverback-gorilla-bench-press

[NumberSix]

I'd wager a Gorilla has a better chance to beat an elephant than a kodiak bear does
They both have the exact same chance. 0.

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Jacco Macacco was a fighting ape or monkey who was exhibited in monkey-baiting matches at the Westminster Pit in London in the early 1820s. He achieved some measure of fame among the sporting community through his reputed prodigious record of victories against dogs, but was brought to wider attention by depiction in popular literature, artworks and by citation in speeches to Parliament by the animal welfare campaigner Richard Martin. Jacco's most famous fight, against the equally well-known bitch Puss, seems to have marked the end of his career: he may have died as a result of injuries received during the match or of an unrelated illness sometime afterwards.


Jacco was reported to weigh 10 to 12 pounds (4.5 to 5.4 kg) and was pitched against dogs of up to twice his weight. The 1821 advertising broadsheet for his match against the 19-pound bitch states he was open to challenges from "any dog in England for 100 Guineas of 24lbs being double his own weight".[12] According to Lennox:

His mode of attack, or rather of defence, was, at first, to present his back or neck to the dog, and to shift and tumble about until he could lay hold on the arm or chest, when he ascended to the windpipe, clawing and biting away, which usually occupied him about one minute and a half, and if his antagonist was not speedily with drawn, his death was certain; the monkey exhibited a frightful appearance, being deluged with blood — but it was that of his opponent alone; as the toughness and flexibility of his own skin rendered him impervious to the teeth of the dog.[2]

Lennox writes that after several fights, Jacco adapted his technique and would overcome his canine opponents by leaping directly on their backs and manoeuvring himself into a position where he could tear at their windpipes while remaining out of reach of their jaws. Lennox reports him as having overcome fourteen opponents in total and the advertising broadsheet states he had already been involved in thirteen matches "with some of the best dogs of the day including his combat with the wonderful bitch Puss of T. Cribbs and the famed Oxford one".[12][note 6] Both Berkeley and Lawrence Fitz-Barnard (writing in Fighting Sports in 1922) cast doubt on Jacco's ability to beat any canine opponent in an unrigged match though. Berkeley points to the bleeding of the dogs by Cribb and stresses the tendency of writers to exaggerate their accounts of simian ferocity and strength,[11] while Fitz-Barnard dismisses out-of-hand the possibility of any but the largest apes being able to prevail against a fighting dog. Fitz-Barnard claims that Jacco was a "stock performer and put up a great battle with an indifferent dog. The monkey was given a club to assist him..."[13] Most accounts agree that Jacco was held in a small cage when not fighting and was secured by a short length of thin metal chain during his matches.[6][11]

primates beat cats, dogs, bears.

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Jacco4.jpg

Imagine a Gorilla doing this to a tiger/lion/bear

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It's from your country nick
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Jacco1.jpg

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Someone even made a song about how monkeys dominate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYNBiJCXuR4

My money's on the monkey too.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Bad argument detected.

Leopards are known for nipping off females and younglings because Gorillas travel in gangs. They are almost always females or young gorillas and it is always an ambush from out of nowhere or when they are sleeping. Check your sources. Primates beat felines. There was a fighting monkey back in Europe in the 1800's. It used to go up against cats and dogs and it would always beat them the same way... It allowed them to strike with their jaws, and then the monkey would slip under and bite the neck, utilizing the primates elite mobility and climbing.

The point is that if small leopards have the offensive weaponry to bring down a gorilla then a grizzly bear with it's 4" claws and a maw full of teeth meant for tearing apart the thick hides of large prey animals, would easily be able tear apart a comparatively thin skinned opponent. Then you combine the enormous size difference....The fact that you have to present a special scenario where the gorilla slips under the gizzly and bites it in the neck, shows how realistic it's chances are.

Also the instincts of a herbivore animal from an environment where it is not used to being attacked by predators on a regular basis, to deliver a killing blow to another large animal is extremely suspect.

[Nick Young]

The point is that if small leopards have the offensive weaponry to bring down a gorilla then a grizzly bear with it's 4" claws and a maw full of teeth meant for tearing apart the thick hides of large prey animals, would easily be able tear apart a comparatively thin skinned opponent. Then you combine the enormous size difference....The fact that you have to present a special scenario where the gorilla slips under the gizzly and bites it in the neck, shows how realistic it's chances are.

Also the instincts of a herbivore animal from an environment where it is not used to being attacked by predators on a regular basis, to deliver a killing blow to another large animal is extremely suspect.
A ninja has the weaponry to take down an armored knight, if the ninja attacks when the knight isn't expecting it or asleep.

In open combat, with no trees to hide in, European Knight destroys the ninja 10/10 times.


Leopard has the weaponry, but their main advantage is stealth, the element of surprise and opportunism.

[RedBlackAttack]

There have been documented cases of grizzly bears standing 10-feet tall and weighing over 2,000 pounds. They have razor sharp teeth and claws. Most importantly, grizzly bears are the absolute top of the food chain. An adult grizzly bear has only humans to fear and even gunshot wounds to the head are not guaranteed to end their assault.

The bears' skull is so thick and dense, hunting rounds for grizzly bears start with a .357 magnum. There is a very good chance that a 9mm or 40 caliber bullet would only make him angry.


At the turn of the last Century a Grizzly Bear was terrorizing the Wyoming Territory. The Territorial Government posted a $10,000 in gold reward on this bear. Many hunters went after the bear for the reward and many hunters never returned. Years later a rusted rifle or belt buckle would be found.

When the bear was finally killed (after killing the hunter’s dozen well-trained hunting dogs and taking at least three magazines from a .30-40 Krag), over a hundred rifle rounds were found in the bear’s body. None had killed the bear. The biggest surprise was discovered when the bear’s skull was opened. There were five old handgun rounds of diverse calibers lodged in the bear’s brain. These had been fired up from under the bear and none of these medium and large bore revolver bullets had succeeded in killing the bear.

http://issuu.com/doc_viewer/docs/document_246/7


This isn't to say that a Silverback Gorilla is a chump. If cornered, they're extremely dangerous. But they do not inhabit the same regions as a freaking grizzly bear. In their own habitat, they occasionally succumb to leopard or crocodile attacks.

Fact is, a gorilla would be smart enough to know to get away if a grizzly bear were tracking it. Their intelligence would come in handy, which is why they'd likely survive by getting up a tree or evading the bear some other way.

There would be no fight... and if there was, RIP gorilla.

[Nick Young]

It's from your country nick
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Jacco1.jpg
Jacco is still celebrated here as a great fighting champion.

[HitandRun Reggie]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Jacco4.jpg

Imagine a Gorilla doing this to a tiger/lion/bear

You do realize that although the dog eventually died, it literally tore off Jacco's jaw and he succumbed to his injuries shortly after. Not to mention that dog in the photo might have the only dog with "fighting experience" the monkey ever faced.

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You do realize that although the dog eventually died, it literally tore off Jacco's jaw and he succumbed to his injuries shortly after. Not to mention that dog in the photo might have the only dog with "fighting experience" the monkey ever faced.
Jacco had many fights under his belt by this fight. dude had already beaten 15 canines in a row. The dog he last fought was triple his weight, and they both died.

[AlphaWolf24]

There is a video on LL of a bear attacking a man...it's very Graphic

According to the video - Bears like to get full mount and bite/ tear the faces off humans/primates...

So with that....I think the bear with larger teeth and claws prolly have an advantage

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Big Ursa (Polar/Kodiak/Grizzly) wins easily, but Silverback smashes one black and maybe a second one after.

Gif, you raised quite an interesting question there. And I agree. An Elephant would absolutely curbstomp a grizzly, impale it, or flat out smack it with its trunk. Grizzlies are very fast BUT NOT AGILE. That is if the bear doesn't f*cking high-tail it the hell out of there, seeing as how the next guy in the food chain is a wolf :oldlol:


Though it'll lose 99,999 out of 100,000 But that one rare brilliant Gorilla... It just might be smart/quick enough to grab on to elephant's trunk or tusk and TUG. Or do something odd... They instinctively know where to pull down tree trunks.. maybe they go for elephants leg?

[NumberSix]

Big Ursa (Polar/Kodiak/Grizzly) wins easily, but Silverback smashes one black and maybe a second one after.

Gif, you raised quite an interesting question there. And I agree. An Elephant would absolutely curbstomp a grizzly, impale it, or flat out smack it with its trunk. Grizzlies are very fast BUT NOT AGILE. That is if the bear doesn't f*cking high-tail it the hell out of there, seeing as how the next guy in the food chain is a wolf :oldlol:


Though it'll lose 99,999 out of 100,000 But that one rare brilliant Gorilla... It just might be smart/quick enough to grab on to elephant's trunk or tusk and TUG. Or do something odd... They instinctively know where to pull down tree trunks.. maybe they go for elephants leg?
:wtf:

Do you have any idea how strong an elephants trunk is? They lift up entire trees. If a gorilla grabs an elephants trunk, the gorilla is going up in the air.

There's a reason why gorillas don't live where they live. Lions, hyenas, leopards, elephants, hippos, crocs, etc... all live around each other because they can. They have what it takes to survive. Baboons live around them too because they're small enough to climb up tress for safety. A gorilla is just a sitting target. Like, what do you think would happen if a family of gorillas came across a pack of hyenas or lions?

It would be a different story if they had the wherewithal to use a spear or something like humans, but they don't.

I know you think gorillas are super strong, and they are, but things like lions are used to dealing with animals like buffalo which are WAY stronger than gorillas and have weapons like horns and hooves for kicking.

An elephant vs a gorilla is just too stupid to even consider.

[SugarHill]

There's footage of an elephant flipping a fvcking rhino but we're entertaining a gorilla?

[NumberSix]

There's footage of an elephant flipping a fvcking rhino but we're entertaining a gorilla?
Yeah, it's retarded.

I don't know if it's because gorillas are so closely related to humans that people feel like gorillas are on "our side" and just want to believe something on our side is the strongest or something.

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Gorilla is much stronger than a Buffalo

[Nick Young]

The silverback's weapon is its brain. They have also been known to use things like sticks and boulders as weapons.


A gorilla can life 4,000 pounds. Imagine a creature of that strength throwing a boulder or massive rock at your head. If gorilla is in a place with rocks, and starts out a decent distance from kodiak, he can easily win with ranged attacks before the bear even reaches him.