Rousey....Greatest Fighter of our generation....

[9erempiree]

I can't see anyone better than her. Men or women.

[Nick Young]

God bless our based queen

[RedBlackAttack]

Oh god. lol

The fact that 99% of women have no interest in fighting definitely helps. Honestly, the competition kind of sucks.

Don't get me wrong... she's got talent and is uncommonly fierce for a female. But this is taking it way too far.

[NumberSix]

Oh god. lol

The fact that 99% of women have no interest in fighting definitely helps. Honestly, the competition kind of sucks.

Don't get me wrong... she's got talent and is uncommonly fierce for a female. But this is taking it way too far.
There's 160 million females in the United States. How many of them are interested in being fighters? Like a few hundred? :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Oh god. lol

The fact that 99% of women have no interest in fighting definitely helps. Honestly, the competition kind of sucks.

Don't get me wrong... she's got talent and is uncommonly fierce for a female. But this is taking it way too far.
The First Estate CIS gender white male misogynist reveals himself.

[Nick Young]

There's 160 million females in the United States. How many of them are interested in being fighters? Like a few hundred? :confusedshrug:
Half of the worlds population are women. MMA is a sport that is popular all over the world, especially in East Asia and Brazil. In my country, Europe, we believe that everyone should be given the opportunity to compete, regardless of gender, which BTW is an entirely social construct.

[RedBlackAttack]

The First Estate CIS gender white male misogynist reveals himself.
If being a misogynist means recognizing that women are not programmed for violence in the way that men are, then I'm a misogynist. Some may see it as a compliment, tbh.

[gigantes]

@redblackattack,
definitely.

not to mention, as long as ronda keeps dodging cyborg at catchweight, she'll always have a huge asterisk next to her name. quite similar to mayweather's legacy IMO.

until rousey can find someone to really test her, she'll be a kind of side show in combat science. a huge, money-making sideshow... but still a sideshow.

[Nick Young]

Cyborg is a juicing cheat.

[STATUTORY]

after Ronda knocked out bethe last night, she stooded over dat basic ho and whispered "don't cry"

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :applause: :applause:

[ace23]

Last night was funny. She's so dominant it's ridiculous.

[SCREWstonRockets]

rousey fights never dissapoint me. never. cant say that about all the other ufc events i tried to watch. rousey vs cyborg needs to happen. would be ufc's biggest fight ever and might get pac-floyd level hype

[Nick Young]

If being a misogynist means recognizing that women are not programmed for violence in the way that men are, then I'm a misogynist. Some may see it as a compliment, tbh.
Be careful. Your CIS gendered white male First Estate sexism is showing. In other words, check your privilege.

[gigantes]

Cyborg is a juicing cheat.
doesn't matter anymore.

one, because rousey and WMMA badly needs the fight regardless.

two, because the testing is now more frequent and random. so if she still juiced, i think there's a strong chance she'd get caught or pull an aldo and withdraw with phantom injury.

[Nick Young]

doesn't matter anymore.

one, because rousey and WMMA badly needs the fight regardless.

two, because the testing is now more frequent and random. so if she still juiced, i think there's a strong chance she'd get caught or pull an aldo and withdraw with phantom injury.
Rousey is not going to gain weight to fight in Cyborg's weight class. If Cyborg cuts to fight in bantamweight, she will just use that excuse if she loses. Plus, she juiced. Doesn't matter if she stopped. She still has the musclemass gained from cheating.

[gigantes]

Rousey is not going to gain weight to fight in Cyborg's weight class. If Cyborg cuts to fight in bantamweight, she will just use that excuse if she loses. Plus, she juiced. Doesn't matter if she stopped. She still has the musclemass gained from cheating.
1) recommend you learn the meaning of "catchweight."

2) that's not quite how musclemass works. if you don't maintain it, it doesn't automatically stay with you.

[highwhey]

1) recommend you learn the meaning of "catchweight."

2) that's not quite how musclemass works. if you don't maintain it, it doesn't automatically stay with you.
In his country, Europe, they are idiots.

[gigantes]

In his country, Europe, they are idiots.
ah.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Her opposition is way too weak to proclaim her the greatest. She dominates part-time fighters in many cases.

[Angel Face]

Oh god. lol

The fact that 99% of women have no interest in fighting definitely helps. Honestly, the competition kind of sucks.

Don't get me wrong... she's got talent and is uncommonly fierce for a female. But this is taking it way too far.

This, women's mma is like watching early UFC, Pride where a one skilled guy dominates weak competition who lacks talent.

[dude77]

lol@female fighters .. it's useful for women .. promotes conditioning, discipline, self defense and all that good stuff .. but as far as actual caliber of fighting in a competition league, it's a joke .. it's like going crazy over a junior league ..

lucia rijker, arguably goat and who never lost a fight against women ever, getting toyed with and knocked out cold in an exhibition by some nobody male fighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2QgDWSfQik

[CelticBaller]

How many silverbacks will it take to beat Rousey? 4?

[BlakFrankWhite]

Pacquiao 2006-11

Wins over:

-Barrera
-Marquez(2x)
-Morales
-De la Hoya
-Cotto
-Margarito

[outbreak]

How many silverbacks will it take to beat Rousey? 4?

How many Jeff Van Gundy's does it take to hold back one angry Rousey?

[bdreason]

Cyborg is past her prime, and was never on Ronda's level. If she manages to make the cut to 135, Rousey will handle her easily.


As others have stated, the competition level simply isn't high enough to anoint Rousey the greatest fighter of our generation. She's certainly the greatest female fighter of our generation though.

[9erempiree]

Definitely greatest fighter of our generation and she beat out Mayweather as the best fighter this year.

It takes her less than a minute to destroy 3 opponents put together.:eek:

[stalkerforlife]

lol

[masonanddixon]

MMA isn't a sport.

[stalkerforlife]

MMA isn't a sport.

:biggums:

[macmac]

Personally, i think she might be the greatest athlete of all time. Ali, Jordan, Rousey all in the conversation.

[gigantes]

Rousey beats part time fighers. Bones defeats champions
thing is, that sounds more impressive than it actually is.

if you look most of the guys jones beat on his title run, they're a mixture of past their primes and/or fighting out of their weight class. gus and DC are probably his biggest wins, and jones arguably lost the gustafsson fight.

one thing rousey has over jones decisively is that she's fighting the best fighters in their primes. their truly is nobody else left other than cyborg, or going up to 145.

among the three guys closest in skill to jones (DC, gus, rumble) he is 1-1 against them by my count. squashing has-beens is one thing, but fighting the best is where it's at.


btw, tate was a champion, and it will soon be three times that rousey has faced her.

[~primetime~]

thing is, that sounds more impressive than it actually is.

if you look most of the guys jones beat on his title run, they're a mixture of past their primes and/or fighting out of their weight class. gus and DC are probably his biggest wins, and jones arguably lost the gustafsson fight.

one thing rousey has over jones decisively is that she's fighting the best fighters in their primes. their truly is nobody else left other than cyborg, or going up to 145.

among the three guys closest in skill to jones (DC, gus, rumble) he is 1-1 against them by my count. squashing has-beens is one thing, but fighting the best is where it's at.


btw, tate was a champion, and it will soon be three times that rousey has faced her.
that is a tiny field of women though...it looks like there are only 26 female fighters in Ronda's weight class, while most of the men's weight classes have 100+ fighters

Ronda is the champion of a very small group of females

[gigantes]

haha, obvious troll is obvious.



that is a tiny field of women though...it looks like there are only 26 female fighters in Ronda's weight class, while most of the men's weight classes have 100+ fighters

Ronda is the champion of a very small group of females
it's not that surprising when you think about it.

WMMA is still pretty new in the UFC, with only two weight classes so far. not to mention the available talent is naturally smaller and the viewer demand naturally less.

whenever you have someone in invicta or any other org that gets good enough, there is no question that there's a place for them in the UFC.

none of that is rousey's fault IMO. she clearly is the best 135 woman's fighter in the world.

now if you could somehow motivate more women to fight and more fans to pay to watch, then the situation might be different. but that's a different discussion.

[gigantes]

Obvious hater gonna hate is obvious.
nope. i dislike him as a person, but he's undeniably a prodigy and superstar.



same can be said about Jones. not his fault he's a league above his competition.
he's clearly not as dominating as rousey IMO.

he's 1-1 against gus-DC-rumble as i see it.

if he could manage to simply stop getting his ass in trouble, i think he could find a way to beat those guys and cement his legacy.



Thorpesaurus made a good point in the other thread

"Chael Sonen made a comment that actually made me think of this if you sort of read between the lines. And I don't think it has as much to do with race as it does with the just general field she's going against. He was talking about how she has competed in multiple Olympics. Dropped out of HS at 16 to train. Her mother is a professional in the field. She's been doing this, training professionally, and fighting under the bright lights, her whole life. Most of the women she's competing against are playing huge catch up. Most of these women don't even have a background in HS wrestling. That early age training can really ingrain things in you.

But it's her success that will eventually lead to an army of successors that will come in after her."

This is the one huge difference between her and Bones
there's some fair points there, but there's also a lot to disagree with.

jones comes from an extremely talented athletic family and was likely wrestling from an early age. we already know his academic and national accomplishments in wrestling. between he and rousey i wouldn't know how to decide between which had more early advantages, and i doubt you do either.

also, i don't agree that most women are playing catch up to rousey in the training dept. reality is that most of these fighters are coming from a long background in BJJ, wrestling, kickboxing or other martial arts. the case of bethe correia is very unusual (i.e. only four years training). ronda's main rival tate indeed has a long history of training wrestling at a high level.

not to mention, if merely being an olympic judoka was such an unnatural advantage, why don't we see many other women taking this 'easy' route to success...?

the thing that's clearly different about rousey is her psychotic nature and ability to make everything personal ala a michael jordan. because anger and resentment can be hugely potent motivators.