Kobe at it again

[red1]

are you seriously fuccing blind and illiterate?

I just said he played great in multiple games, sorry i'm not going to sit here and say he played great in games 1,2,3 and 5 when he didn't..

there's no percieved negative, I seriously just pointed out how the 2013 series had similarities to the 2011 series minus the last 5 quarters..

you guys are so damn sensitive




dude gtfo, you're in every thread saying "kobe rapist" you constantly troll Kobe on this board..

yall are seriously afraid to talk ball and just want to hide behind numbers, no wonder 3ball has got every single bran stan on here shook
You are pretty much describing yourself man, just minus the 3-ball. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

The MarkMadsen "LeBron is an overrated statpadder who is carried by other superstars and can't score unless he is wide open for a dunk"

Rational LeBron fans "dude you are exaggerating and being ridiculous"


TheMarkMadsen "damn yall sensitive as ****"









Rational LeBron fans "Kobe was pretty bad in that game"



TheMarkMadsen "STFU. LeBron shot 40% in single coverage in the 2015 finals which proves Kobe is the greatest player of all time because he is always quadrupled teams and he still puts up crazy numbers and he is clutch and he is the GOAT teammate and you are just stupid haters."






:biggums:

[RRR3]

log off your RR3 account and log onto your other account brah
Lol I hit quick reply to the wrong post. Pretty obvious I was referring to you.
I don't hide the other accounts I have/had :confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

That was just a qualifier for you to discredit his series. That doesn't mean anything.


It is also a fact that kobe has the most missed shots in NBA history to his name and that he almost shot his team out of game 7 in 2010 by shooting 25% in the most critical game of the series. Without some timely shots and free-throws courtesy of his team they would have lost the series. Why don't we focus on that what-if instead?

The fact of the matter is that it was a good series and focusing on what-ifs is pointless.

you of course continue to miss the point

Kobe played well enough through 5 games to get his team to a game 6/7, no questions asked (30/6/4 with 2 steals on 54%)

Lebron not so much, he got the opportunity to have a game 6 and a game 7 because his team stepped up in game 2..

if you go back to my original post about this is the entire point I was making..

he played poorly enough through 5 games and almost had another 2011 disaster.. I don't know why you guys are freaking out so much about that..

[tpols]

See this is how I know that you are just a hater. Why do you always have to focus on the perceived negative?.

:coleman:

Eh if i remember correctly weren't you the one flying your 6-24 kite as high as you possibly could after 2010 Finals ?

That used to really hurt my feelings :(

[RRR3]

Your hypocrisy is mind boggling Mark. There is no way you can't see this, as I think you are smarter than the average kobetard and are capable of rational thought, unlike, say, 9er.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The MarkMadsen "LeBron is an overrated statpadder who is carried by other superstars and can't score unless he is wide open for a dunk"

Rational LeBron fans "dude you are exaggerating and being ridiculous"


TheMarkMadsen "damn yall sensitive as ****"



stop melting don, seriously..

when in this thread did I say he is an overrated statpadder who is carried by teammates??






Rational LeBron fans "Kobe was pretty bad in that game"



TheMarkMadsen "STFU. LeBron shot 40% in single coverage in the 2015 finals which proves Kobe is the greatest player of all time because he is always quadrupled teams and he still puts up crazy numbers and he is clutch and he is the GOAT teammate and you are just stupid haters."






:biggums:

stop melting down, seriously..

when in this thread did I say he is an overrated statpadder who is carried by teammates?? you're making shit up, getting shook as usual

it's funny, because where were you earlier in this thread when people were trying to shit on Kobe for not being clutch... oh that's right you were right here with the rest of them acting like a dumbass..

where was the big objective, rational fan that you try to be anytime somebody discusses lebron's negatives...

hypocritical much :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

and then of course when Jacks comes through and ethers the fucc out of everybody yall refuse to address his points..

pure comedy

[chazzy]

:coleman:

Eh if i remember correctly weren't you the one flying your 6-24 kite as high as you possibly could after 2010 Finals ?

That used to really hurt my feelings :(
Lol yeah, red1 of all people shouldn't be coming here with that "why are you so negative :(" stuff

[RRR3]

:coleman:

Eh if i remember correctly weren't you the one flying your 6-24 kite as high as you possibly could after 2010 Finals ?

That used to really hurt my feelings :(
Did someone mention weed?
http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/16/16e4d5ce1e5d1139772447800e9e85ae77eeeda5_full.jpg

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe got his team to the dance (6 & 7) and they really helped him finish it off

lebrons team got him to the dance and he really helped them finish it off..

pretty fair statement to make.. but you idiots of course overreact.

[chazzy]

Kobe got his team to the dance (6 & 7) and they really helped him finish it off

lebrons team got him to the dance and he really helped them finish it off..

pretty fair statement to make.. but you idiots of course overreact.
He played well in game 6 too. Got a lot of his numbers early and it was a blowout

[TheMarkMadsen]

:coleman:

Eh if i remember correctly weren't you the one flying your 6-24 kite as high as you possibly could after 2010 Finals ?

That used to really hurt my feelings :(

yeah i remember the whole "most missed shots in NBA finals history" used to be something all bran stans (including Red1 too :lol ) used to bring up all the time..

but I've noticed they've been pretty silent after the record was recently broken..

:roll:

[RRR3]

stop melting down, seriously..

when in this thread did I say he is an overrated statpadder who is carried by teammates?? you're making shit up, getting shook as usual

it's funny, because where were you earlier in this thread when people were trying to shit on Kobe for not being clutch... oh that's right you were right here with the rest of them acting like a dumbass..

where was the big objective, rational fan that you try to be anytime somebody discusses lebron's negatives...

hypocritical much :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

and then of course when Jacks comes through and ethers the fucc out of everybody yall refuse to address his points..

pure comedy
I wasn't the one posting all those stats that was AW. IIRC there was maybe one post i made in a troll like manner and that was after people like you exasperated me.

Please continue building straw men. Not sure why you expect me to defend Kobe when he has so many supporters already. I'm not hating on him; that should be plenty for u

[RRR3]

Kobe got his team to the dance (6 & 7) and they really helped him finish it off

lebrons team got him to the dance and he really helped them finish it off..

pretty fair statement to make.. but you idiots of course overreact.
Kobe>LeBron.


This is the proof we were missing!


:bowdown:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I wasn't the one posting all those stats that was AW. IIRC there was maybe one post i made in a troll like manner and that was after people like you exasperated me.


so let me ask you again..

where was your big ojective rational stance of "why are you being so negative, they are both all time greats" when everybody was shitting on Kobe..

you just admited to trolling along with everybody..

yet when the thread turns and I bring some negative shit up about Lebron you go all "lets be nice and objective mode"

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

In the 2011 playoffs?

LeBron took the most FGA and played the most minutes for Miami.

So Bron lead them to that Finals lost :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe>LeBron.


This is the proof we were missing!


:bowdown:

this is your problem, i'm not saying Kobe> Lebron with this, i'm simply pointing out the differences in the series after you tried comparing the two

it's pathetic how you can't actually keep the convo going and have to bust into "lets exaggerate the shit out of everything he says mode"

[chazzy]

In the 2011 playoffs?

LeBron took the most FGA and played the most minutes for Miami.
So why didn't Lebron have a problem with Wade taking a large volume of shots in the Celtics series and the entire regular season? He took less in the finals.

[RRR3]

so let me ask you again..

where was your big ojective rational stance of "why are you being so negative, they are both all time greats" when everybody was shitting on Kobe..

you just admited to trolling along with everybody..

yet when the thread turns and I bring some negative shit up about Lebron you go all "lets be nice and objective mode"

:oldlol: :oldlol:
Because I like LeBron more you idiot. Duh.
If you can't see he difference currently between how I post about Kobe and how you post about LeBron then idk what to tell u man

[RRR3]

So why didn't Lebron have a problem with Wade taking a large volume of shots in the Celtics series and the entire regular season? He took less in the finals.
Ether.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Because I like LeBron more you idiot. Duh.

ok then stop being a hypocritical douche bag when people begin to point out negative shit about Lebron if you're not gonna have the same "lets be nice and objective guys" when people are pointing out Kobe's negatives..

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

ok then stop being a hypocritical douche bag when people begin to point out negative shit about Lebron if you're not gonna have the same "lets be nice and objective guys" when people are pointing out Kobe's negatives..

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Read the rest of my post. I edited it.

[TheMarkMadsen]

If you can't see he difference currently between how I post about Kobe and how you post about LeBron then idk what to tell u man

and if you can't see how stupid you look shitting on Kobe and then crying like a bitch when people take shots at lebron in exact same thread then i don't know what to tell you

[RRR3]

and if you can't see how stupid you look shitting on Kobe and then crying like a bitch when people take shots at lebron in exact same thread then i don't know what to tell you
Show me where I shit on Kobe. Old posts from back when I was a similar poster to yourself don't count btw.

[TheMarkMadsen]

How about the great numbers he put in the last 5 min of close games in the post-season? 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/kobe-clutch-playoffs.jpg

How about the ridiculous numbers he put up in the clutch over his prime?

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

Here are his last prime seasons:

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM
http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

Keep in mind that league-average efficiency numbers tend to see a huge decline in the clutch.

Bryant was quite excellent down the stretch of close games from 2003-2007, but he verified his reputation as an assassin from 2008-2010. He took about 8 more shots per 36 in clutch situations (and nearly twice as many FT’s) with almost no change in his eFG%. There’s no significant improvement like Ginobili saw (or Manu’s obscene accuracy at 55.9% eFG%) but Bryant’s shooting twice as much as Ginobili and is still way above average for perimeter player accuracy.

There's plenty of statistical stuff backing Kobe's rep as a great closer.

so is any bran fan going to try and respond to this..??

I just find it kind of funny how yall were fuccing living in this thread all day and then just left when this was posted..

i'm sure Jacks came in here expecting a battle.. i'm sure he would love a response..

or did the competition get too hard for yall so you just moved on to an easier thread..??

[RRR3]

I don't feel compelled to respond to a post that wasn't directed at me. It was directed ar AW.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Show me where I shit on Kobe. Old posts from back when I was a similar poster to yourself don't count btw.

:facepalm :facepalm

dude you were in here perfectly fine with people shitting on Kobe, spreading lies and what not

and then the second something negative gets said about Lebron you decided its time for ISH to be objective..

STFU

[red1]

:coleman:

Eh if i remember correctly weren't you the one flying your 6-24 kite as high as you possibly could after 2010 Finals ?

That used to really hurt my feelings :(
hey man sorry about that. :cheers: I do troll often but it is usually reactionary and I do try to be unbiased and levelheaded

[Hey Yo]

So Bron lead them to that Finals lost :applause:
Yes, James led the team to the Finals and then for some reason, Wade was givin' sole first option status. After they lost, later that summer Wade publicly announced to the media that he was turning the team over to LeBron. That's when B2B happened.

Why doesn't Wade get ridiculed for choking and not able to lead his 2011 "superstar" team to a championship?

[red1]

you of course continue to miss the point

Kobe played well enough through 5 games to get his team to a game 6/7, no questions asked (30/6/4 with 2 steals on 54%)

Lebron not so much, he got the opportunity to have a game 6 and a game 7 because his team stepped up in game 2..

if you go back to my original post about this is the entire point I was making..

he played poorly enough through 5 games and almost had another 2011 disaster.. I don't know why you guys are freaking out so much about that..
The point I am making is that you aren't making a point. If you have to focus your premise on almost you should realize that

[RRR3]

:facepalm :facepalm

dude you were in here perfectly fine with people shitting on Kobe, spreading lies and what not

and then the second something negative gets said about Lebron you decided its time for ISH to be objective..

STFU
Ah, so I didn't shit on Kobe after all. Stop moving the goalposts.



As for jacks post it was directed at others. Clutch is kinda silly to me tbqh. You are either unaffected by pressure or you are. No one magically gets better because of some "killer instinct". Why wouldn't they have that all game?

Kobe is a confident player so you know he is dependable to go down firing in a close game. The thing is he is so confident he sometimes takes bad shots.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Close doesn't count

So RR3 tries to jump on me for talking about what almost happened..

yet in this same exact thread..




Also, Kobe almost literally gave away two games in the 2012 2nd round against OKC.


you hypocritical fucc boy

:roll: :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Ah, so I didn't shit on Kobe after all. Stop moving the goalposts.



you told me to find a post of yours hating on Kobe and then said I couldn't use any of your old post

WTF do you expect me to do find post of yours from the future

:wtf: :facepalm

[RRR3]

So RR3 tries to jump on me for talking about what almost happened..

yet in this same exact thread..




you hypocritical fucc boy

:roll: :roll:
Grasping at straws now. I included the word almost because I anticipated people such as yourself attacking me if I just wrote "literally".

[RRR3]

you told me to find a post of yours hating on Kobe and then said I couldn't use any of your old post

WTF do you expect me to do find post of yours from the future

:wtf: :facepalm
I meant posts back before I made an attempt to be more objective and not talk out of my ass. These would be from 2011-12 in particular.

[Hey Yo]

So why didn't Lebron have a problem with Wade taking a large volume of shots in the Celtics series and the entire regular season? He took less in the finals.
Why don't you come back when you have some actual facts.

[Wade's Rings]

Yes, James led the team to the Finals and then for some reason, Wade was givin' sole first option status. After they lost, later that summer Wade publicly said to the media that he was turning the team over to LeBron. That's when B2B happened.

Why doesn't Wade get ridiculed for choking and not able to lead his 2011 "superstar" team to a championship?

So Bron knowing Wade can't lead the team gives the team to Wade right before the Finals :lebronamazed: So Lebron threw the championship by letting Wade lead. Glad we know who to blame for that Finals loss :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I meant posts back before I made an attempt to be more objective and not talk out of my ass. These would be from 2011-12 in particular.

dude seriously wtf are you even responding to me for, I'm not going to sit here and search for post of yours from a specific date, you're delusional..

You were totally fine with people shitting on Kobe but the second somebody knocks Lebron you got all upset..

stop being such a hypocritical douche,, your hypocrisies are littered throughout this thread.. in a nut shell I said this..


Kobe got his team to the dance (6 & 7) and they really helped him finish it off

lebrons team got him to the dance and he really helped them finish it off..



and you lost your mind..

stop crying, you hopped in this thread and began trolling with the rest of the idiots, and then of course when the tables were turned about people began talking shit on Lebron you wanted to act like you are some level headed poster who wants everybody to be objective..

seriously, if you can't respond to jacks then don't respond at all, follow the rest of your little gang you were with earlier and just disappear..

the only reason I'm responding to is to keep this thread alive, this thread will die because of what Jacks posted.. because you idiots can't sit in here jacking each other off talking about how Kobe isn't clutch anymore

[Wade's Rings]

Why don't you come back when you have some actual facts.

You got wrecked and can't reply :yaohappy:

[Trollsmasher]

How about the great numbers he put in the last 5 min of close games in the post-season? 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/kobe-clutch-playoffs.jpg

How about the ridiculous numbers he put up in the clutch over his prime?

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

Here are his last prime seasons:

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM
http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

Keep in mind that league-average efficiency numbers tend to see a huge decline in the clutch.

Bryant was quite excellent down the stretch of close games from 2003-2007, but he verified his reputation as an assassin from 2008-2010. He took about 8 more shots per 36 in clutch situations (and nearly twice as many FT’s) with almost no change in his eFG%. There’s no significant improvement like Ginobili saw (or Manu’s obscene accuracy at 55.9% eFG%) but Bryant’s shooting twice as much as Ginobili and is still way above average for perimeter player accuracy.

There's plenty of statistical stuff backing Kobe's rep as a great closer.
08-10 Bron tho:bowdown:

56/14/13/2/4 on 56/42/85 and 66/16/8/3/3 on 48/34/80

far above the rest

[RRR3]

dude seriously wtf are you even responding to me for, I'm not going to sit here and search for post of yours from a specific date, you're delusional..

You were totally fine with people shitting on Kobe but the second somebody knocks Lebron you got all upset..

stop being such a hypocritical douche,, your hypocrisies are littered throughout this thread.. in a nut shell I said this..



and you lost your mind..

stop crying, you hopped in this thread and began trolling with the rest of the idiots, and then of course when the tables were turned about people began talking shit on Lebron you wanted to act like you are some level headed poster who wants everybody to be objective..

seriously, if you can't respond to jacks then don't respond at all, follow the rest of your little gang you were with earlier and just disappear..

the only reason I'm responding to is to keep this thread alive, this thread will die because of what Jacks posted.. because you idiots can't sit in here jacking each other off talking about how Kobe isn't clutch anymore
You are ridiculous man. I am sorry I didn't join you in defending Kobe earlier, but I didn't feel the need to tbqh. I have called out LeBron fans at times (including ITT) not that you notice.

Kobe is amazing, one of the best, and he is quite mentally tough.

[Hey Yo]

So Bron knowing Wade can't lead the team gives the team to Wade right before the Finals :lebronamazed: So Lebron threw the championship by letting Wade lead. Glad we know who to blame for that Finals loss :applause:
I never said that.....take the L and move on, chico

[Droid101]

:rolleyes:

This is why we LeBron fans get hate
So don't ally yourself with them. Discount them immediately, and we'll all become friends.

[ArbitraryWater]

:oldlol:



Ok "EYE TEST" :rolleyes: When did I say he had a bad Game 1? Wade & Bron were pretty even statistically and Wade closes out the Game down the stretch, and somehow claiming Wade was the best player is revising History?

HO LEE SHIATZU!

Saying Bron was better in the game 1 W kills you that much eh :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I am sorry

Kobe is amazing, one of the best, and he is quite mentally tough.

good post, apology accepted

lololol do you see what I did I edited the shit out of your post holy shit lmao i'm clever as fucc

[ArbitraryWater]

Except the small part of wanting to be first option one last time in a Finals and not being able to carry his team to a ring after it was agreed upon.

no, don't let the tard hang out..Bron fans don't want this shit :no:

2011 is ONLY on Bron.

[ArbitraryWater]

Over the times there's actually formed a mutural friendship between me and Madsen... we're gonna be tighter than a Monkeys budhole one day.

I see us kicking back watching RAW with some womenz and drinking some shitty American beer.

[Droid101]

AW is a ****** piece of shit, period. Knows nothing about basketball.

[Wade's Rings]

I never said that.....take the L and move on, chico


Why doesn't Wade get ridiculed for choking and not able to lead his 2011 "superstar" team to a championship?

:confusedshrug:

[Hey Yo]

no, don't let the tard hang out..Bron fans don't want this shit :no:

2011 is ONLY on Bron.
Kinda late with your post, John boy.

Keep reading.....

[Wade's Rings]

HO LEE SHIATZU!

Saying Bron was better in the game 1 W kills you that much eh :oldlol:

He wasn't :confusedshrug:

[ArbitraryWater]

Droid101 talking about being clueless on basketball..

















































































































































:yaohappy:

[Hey Yo]

edit:

my bad......thought I was quoting Droid

[RRR3]

So don't ally yourself with them. Discount them immediately, and we'll all become friends.
I don't ally myself with guys like Hey yo, sorry if you got that impression.

[Heavincent]

LOL Kobe fans turning to data. :roll: :roll: Must be the first time, you have to be so excited, I can see it. I'm actually excited for you.

But somebody will probably answer to this. As a Kobe fan though you should not want to go into a stats war. I mean its Kobe and stats, how difficult could it be?

You don't understand basketball. Please stop posting, for everyone's sake.

[ArbitraryWater]

Jacks3, Madsen, Heavincent..BROS

[chazzy]

Why don't you come back when you have some actual facts.
Man you're dumb as hell or trolling. Wade took more shots in the entire regular season than he did in the finals.. there wasn't some "agreement" about who would be #1 in the finals