This upcoming season is going to be TURNT

[LoneyROY7]

Has there ever been as many NO EXCUSE squads as there will be this season?

Golden State Warriors: Defending champs. Both the reigning MVP and the reigning FMVP. No significant losses. - NO EXCUSES

Cleveland Cavaliers: LeBron. Healthy Kyrie, Love, etc. - NO F*CKING EXCUSES

San Antonio Spurs: Added a top 3 PF to an already well-oiled machine. - SORRY POP, NO EXCUSES

Los Angeles Clippers: Monster re-tool in the offseason (Pierce, Smith, Stephenson, etc.). Blake and Chris. - NO MOAR EXCUSES...PLEASE

OKC Thunder: Healthy KD and Russ. Highly-touted college coach. Improved supporting cast. - NOT A SINGLE EXCUSE

Houston Rockets: Harden and Dwight. Traded for Ty Lawson. Coming off WCF. - EXCUSES? WE'RE OUT OF 'EM

Honorable mention: Chicago Bulls (put up or shut up time)

So are y'all excited or WHAT?

[GIF REACTION]

Kings should be on that list but they shouldn't at the same time because they have plenty of excuses

[TheMarkMadsen]

yes the WC is going to be amazing and the EC will continue to be a joke

in 08 & 10 each playoff team out west had 50+ wins, I see this happening again you'll need 50 wins just to make the playoffs out west

[LoneyROY7]

Where the **** are the Kings OP?

Damn son, I actually thought about putting them in the HM. :oldlol:

[GIF REACTION]

Josh Smith is going to regret turning down Purple Town.

[LoneyROY7]

Josh Smith is going to regret turning down Purple Town.

His bank account will, but holding up the Larry O'Brien at the end of year will help a bit. :rockon:

[Thunderfan86]

So are y'all excited or WHAT?
I ain't gon lie my nikka....I'm excited as fvck. I can't wait to get this shit poppin

[GIF REACTION]

Rondo.

Gay.

Cousins.

Anyone here that? BIG TREE. FIDDY WINS. PLAYOFFS.

[imdaman99]

Injuries will happen and there will be plenty of excuses again. Although I'd like a season where no one gets hurt or everyone is as close to healthy as possible going into the playoffs. That way, it would be NO MORE EXCUSES for at least 7-8 teams. Bulls should be up there, not as an honorable mention...especially if Rose is relatively healthy.

[sundizz]

Best teams going into 2015-2016

Tier 1 (5 West teams, 1 East team)
1. Warriors - champs
2. Spurs - added LMA
3. Cleveland - healthy
4. Thunder - healthy + new coach
5. Rockets - added Ty
6. Clippers - added a few pieces

Tier 2
7. Memphis
8. Bulls
9. Hawks
10. Miami
11. Pelicans

Bron with the cakewalk to the finals as usual.

[sdot_thadon]

Always excited to see how the roster movement works out for everyone. Not too concerned with excuses or no excuse squads.

[305Baller]

Chicago is done.
Cavs will have a down year.

Spurs/Clips/Thund/Rockets = No excuses.

Warriors will have a tough repeat.

[LoneyROY7]

Chicago is done.
Cavs will have a down year.

Spurs/Clips/Thund/Rockets = No excuses.

Warriors will have a tough repeat.

AH SH*T. You just reminded me of another HM!

PG: Dragic/Chalmers
SG: Wade
SF: Justise/Deng
PF: Bosh
C: Whiteside

[StephHamann]

Satnam Singh Bhamara

Zaza Pachulia

Salah Mejri

Jamil Wilson

Jeremy Evans

Jarrid Famous

Devin Harris

Deron Williams

Raymond Felton

Justin Anderson

J.J. Barea

Wesley Matthews

Chandler Parsons

Dwight Powell

Dirk Nowitzki

noexcuses :rockon:

[LoneyROY7]

Satnam Singh Bhamara

Zaza Pachulia

Salah Mejri

Jamil Wilson

Jeremy Evans

Jarrid Famous

Devin Harris

Deron Williams

Raymond Felton

Justin Anderson

J.J. Barea

Wesley Matthews

Chandler Parsons

Dwight Powell

Dirk Nowitzki

noexcuses :rockon:

Shit just gave me the feels, bruh. That's one sad ass roster, son. :cry:

[Milbuck]

http://media.philly.com/images/041215_carter-williams_600.jpg

http://www.rantsports.com/nba/files/2015/05/Khris-Middleton.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/bucks/150603-jabari-giannis-1.1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI32Ga6UYAA8T4t.jpg



YES. WE. DID.

[LoneyROY7]

AHHH SHIIITTTTTTTT.

Bucks top 4 in the East this year?

[Milbuck]

AHHH SHIIITTTTTTTT.

Bucks top 4 in the East this year?
No question. None. Cavs, Bulls, Hawks top 3. Raps/Wiz/Heat will make it interesting but I like our chances against any of them.

Jabarles is gonna remind everyone why he was the ROY favorite coming in. BEAST mode.

[StephHamann]

AHHH SHIIITTTTTTTT.

Bucks top 4 in the East this year?

You really think they win 42 games? :eek:

[Beastmode88]

so I'm hearing 2 for 7? :confusedshrug:

[RidonKs]

that's what everybody said about this past season then all the players got injured

[LoneyROY7]

so I'm hearing 2 for 7? :confusedshrug:

Don't you f*cking fill my thread with that stanboy diarrhea.

DON'T. YOU. F*CKING. DARE.

[RedBlackAttack]

I'm not saying they're a favorite or anything, but a team I wouldn't sleep on are the Pacers. Paul George is presumably going to be at 100% and they've added a legitimate secondary weapon in Monta Ellis, and depth with Jordan Hill and Chase Budinger. Stuckey is coming off of maybe the most consistent season of his career...

I see them as a possible home court playoff team in the East.



Also, for the Cavs, I feel like Mo Williams is a pretty significant upgrade for depth purposes and don't forget they have a big TPE that will likely be used around the trade deadline for another piece. Richard Jefferson also provides depth they didn't have last year.

That along with a full season together with a new team / coaching staff... I expect a much improved team.

[Papaya Petee]

East
1.) Cleveland 58-24
2.) Miami 53-29
3.) Chicago 51-31
4.) Milwaukee 50-32
5.) Washington 46-36
6.) Atlanta 44-38
7. ) Boston 42-40
8.) Indiana 41-41

West
1.) Oklahoma City 62-20
2.) Los Angeles 58-24
3.) Golden State 57-25
4.) Houston 56-26
5.) San Antonio 55-27
6.) New Orleans 52-30
7.) Memphis 49-33
8.) Sacramento 45-37

I have spoken.

[RidonKs]

East
1.) Cleveland 58-24
2.) Miami 53-29
3.) Chicago 51-31
4.) Milwaukee 50-32
5.) Washington 46-36
6.) Atlanta 44-38
7. ) Boston 42-40
8.) Indiana 41-41

West
1.) Oklahoma City 62-20
2.) Los Angeles 58-24
3.) Golden State 57-25
4.) Houston 56-26
5.) San Antonio 55-27
6.) New Orleans 52-30
7.) Memphis 49-33
8.) Sacramento 45-37

I have spoken.
this looks damn good...... milwaukee won't win quite that many and swap the pistons or the raptors for the celtics. memphis will be better than new orleans. sacramento will be competing with utah for the last spot.

[SpecialQue]

The west is going to be a fvcking war. I still don't have any faith in the Thunder doing anything. They've been injured/shit since Durant got his asshole slammed by Lebron in the finals. The Spurs are my pick, not that anyone gives a shit.

Lebron will once again treat the east conference like El Chapo did that prison. As much as I love Pau, the Bulls are a fvcking joke and Lebron will once again stuff Rose in the postseason, provided Rose is even playing.

[GIF REACTION]

this looks damn good...... milwaukee won't win quite that many and swap the pistons or the raptors for the celtics. memphis will be better than new orleans. sacramento will be competing with utah for the last spot.
Troll post?

[Hey Yo]

yes the WC is going to be amazing and the EC will continue to be a joke

in 08 & 10 each playoff team out west had 50+ wins, I see this happening again you'll need 50 wins just to make the playoffs out west
Just like the Lakers the past 3 seasons and will continue to be a laughing stock of the league?

[RidonKs]

clippers and thunder and rockets will fight tooth and nail for home court advantage. the spurs will rest starters as usual and nab the 5th seed at worst. kerr will probably follow pop's lead since the warriors are very deep too. win the head to head ones you have to, go easy on tired nights.

[SpecialQue]

clippers and thunder and rockets will fight tooth and nail for home court advantage. the spurs will rest starters as usual and nab the 5th seed at worst. kerr will probably follow pop's lead since the warriors are very deep too. win the head to head ones you have to, go easy on tired nights.

Clippers/Rockets is probably the match up I want the most in the playoffs, aside from Cavs/Heat.

[RidonKs]

reggie jacksons gonna tear it up

[Young X]

The west will once again be extremely competitive but at the end of the day it really only comes down to the top 2 seeds. No team is winning 3 straight series on the road.

[RedBlackAttack]

East
1.) Cleveland 58-24
2.) Miami 53-29
3.) Chicago 51-31
4.) Milwaukee 50-32
5.) Washington 46-36
6.) Atlanta 44-38
7. ) Boston 42-40
8.) Indiana 41-41

West
1.) Oklahoma City 62-20
2.) Los Angeles 58-24
3.) Golden State 57-25
4.) Houston 56-26
5.) San Antonio 55-27
6.) New Orleans 52-30
7.) Memphis 49-33
8.) Sacramento 45-37

I have spoken.
The Pacers will be better than .500. Book it.

[ArbitraryWater]

yes the WC is going to be amazing and the EC will continue to be a joke

in 08 & 10 each playoff team out west had 50+ wins, I see this happening again you'll need 50 wins just to make the playoffs out west

Been the same shit since 2014.. but really, the 2008-2010 West doesn't touch this West.

2008-2010 West had perhaps the fewest top/elite Teams ever. Lakers and.... '09 Nuggets?

Right now, this year, there are FIVE TO SIX IN THE WEST.. East has 3 with Cavs/Heat/Bulls

[rezznor]

Has there ever been as many NO EXCUSE squads as there will be this season?

Golden State Warriors: Defending champs. Both the reigning MVP and the reigning FMVP. No significant losses. - NO EXCUSES

Cleveland Cavaliers: LeBron. Healthy Kyrie, Love, etc. - NO F*CKING EXCUSES

San Antonio Spurs: Added a top 3 PF to an already well-oiled machine. - SORRY POP, NO EXCUSES

Los Angeles Clippers: Monster re-tool in the offseason (Pierce, Smith, Stephenson, etc.). Blake and Chris. - NO MOAR EXCUSES...PLEASE

OKC Thunder: Healthy KD and Russ. Highly-touted college coach. Improved supporting cast. - NOT A SINGLE EXCUSE

Houston Rockets: Harden and Dwight. Traded for Ty Lawson. Coming off WCF. - EXCUSES? WE'RE OUT OF 'EM

Honorable mention: Chicago Bulls (put up or shut up time)

So are y'all excited or WHAT?
the biggest excuse is there can only be one!! too many great teams this year.

[gilalizard]

Shit just gave me the feels, bruh. That's one sad ass roster, son. :cry:

No team with this man on the roster is ever sad.

https://www.bisnow.com/archives/dfwre/2012/Q2/images/meccadirkn.jpg

[Gotterdammerung]

The west will once again be extremely competitive but at the end of the day it really only comes down to the top 2 seeds. No team is winning 3 straight series on the road.
The 1995 Houston Rockets would like a word with you.
:durantunimpressed:
They won 4 playoff series on the road as a sixth seed. Beat the 60 win Jazz team in the first round, the 56 win Suns in the next despite going down 3-1, upset the 62 win Spurs in 6, and swept the 59 win Magic. :cheers:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Just like the Lakers the past 3 seasons and will continue to be a laughing stock of the league?

yes lebrons path to the finals will continue to be the same as playing a lottery team in every round

thanks for ethering yourself you fuccing moron

[TheMarkMadsen]

Been the same shit since 2014.. but really, the 2008-2010 West doesn't touch this West.

2008-2010 West had perhaps the fewest top/elite Teams ever. Lakers and.... '09 Nuggets?

Right now, this year, there are FIVE TO SIX IN THE WEST.. East has 3 with Cavs/Heat/Bulls

the 08 and 10 West is like the the only time in NBA history when each playoff team won 50+ games..

you weren't even watching basketball back then anyways so what does your opinion matter on this.. in 09 the west had twice as many 50 win teams as the east..

[zoom17]

Hopefully last year was shitty because of injuries.

[Legends66NBA7]

East
1.) Cleveland 58-24
2.) Miami 53-29
3.) Chicago 51-31
4.) Milwaukee 50-32
5.) Washington 46-36
6.) Atlanta 44-38
7. ) Boston 42-40
8.) Indiana 41-41

Pretty sure the East won't have 8 teams at .500 or more in the playoffs.

[Young X]

The 1995 Houston Rockets would like a word with you.
:durantunimpressed:
They won 4 playoff series on the road as a sixth seed. Beat the 60 win Jazz team in the first round, the 56 win Suns in the next despite going down 3-1, upset the 62 win Spurs in 6, and swept the 59 win Magic. :cheers:Yup, that's one of the only exceptions but it happened 20 years ago. That run is amazing though, maybe the most impressive in history.

A team for me has to have both a top 2 seed and top 10 defense to make a serious run at a title. If you go back to every championship team since 1980 almost all of them had both. '95 Rockets are obviously an exception.

It's just too hard in the current west to win 2, possibly 3 straight series on the road against elite teams. You need homecourt.

[Heavincent]

the 08 and 10 West is like the the only time in NBA history when each playoff team won 50+ games..

you weren't even watching basketball back then anyways so what does your opinion matter on this.. in 09 the west had twice as many 50 win teams as the east..

AW acts like the 08-10 West wasn't good. This was the time span in which Kobe led his team to 3 finals appearances and 2 titles.

Pretty easy to connect the dots here.

[ArbitraryWater]

the 08 and 10 West is like the the only time in NBA history when each playoff team won 50+ games..

you weren't even watching basketball back then anyways so what does your opinion matter on this.. in 09 the west had twice as many 50 win teams as the east..

We can repeat the 50 win shit all the time..

Hey Heavincent, you know why it's convenient that EXACTLY the 2008-2010 West was a weak period?

Because for 3 years the Spurs/Mavs/Suns ruled it, they all vanished and no one else stepped up as top contender/favorite besides the Lakers.

It's like the Basketball Gods opened up the gates for Kobe/LAL.

So reading Kobe/Gasol may read like a meh sidekick all-time, but it's MORE than enough against Paul/West, Melo/Billups, Nash/Stoudemire..

On TOP of that the Lakers had an extra advantage with Lamar Odom, Phil Jackson.

The only other super team in the league were the East's Celtics, they lost to them in 2008, avoided them through injury in 2009, and played them in 2010, with a finally healthy Bynum, now also making it a Big 4 v.s. Big 4 + coaching advantage. It came down to a 20+ FT edge in Game 7 and plenty controversial calls.

Probably the worst 'era' / 3 year run top heavy wise in the West besides the 1980's. Truly different than anything else, like 2011 with Lakers/Mavs/OKC/Grizz, 2012 with Spurs/OKC and Grizz/Clipps, 2013 with Spurs/OKC and Grizz/GSW/Clipps, and nothing ever since 2014' s West GOAT conference/era.

[ArbitraryWater]

Who cares about a few extra 50 teams like the baby Aldridge Blazers, Artest/Scola Rockets, Williams/Boozer Jazz?

Teams that eventually won't make a difference anyway...

The East had THREE ELITE/CONTENDING Teams, Cavs/Celtics/Magic, infinitely stronger than the West with the Lakers and?!

The 2008-2010 East is therefore is easily tougher to get out of...

But but but 50 win teams!! Jazz, Rockets, Blazers, Dirk one man carrying show, injured/declining Spurs, baby Thunder!!

[warriorfan]

Who cares about a few extra 50 teams like the baby Aldridge Blazers, Artest/Scola Rockets, Williams/Boozer Jazz?

Teams that eventually won't make a difference anyway...

The East had THREE ELITE/CONTENDING Teams, Cavs/Celtics/Magic, infinitely stronger than the West with the Lakers and?!

The 2008-2010 East is therefore is easily tougher to get out of...

But but but 50 win teams!! Jazz, Rockets, Blazers, Dirk one man carrying show, injured/declining Spurs, baby Thunder!!

Disagree with Cavs being a contender, they had a good team but Bran wasn't mature enough to seal the deal.

Celtics were alright, they got overrated by casual fans like yourself because of their big names but their entire big 3 were past their prime.

Orlando wasn't a very good team. Second best player Jameer Nelson...

Jazz had young Deron Williams who was beast and compared to CP3 at the time. Prime Boozer who was studly at the time dropping 21/12 on 58% TS. Ak-47, Wesley Matthews, Kyle Korver

Melo Nuggets were a great and very deep team. Melo, AI, Nene, Anderson, K-Mart, JR Smith. They added Billups, Ty Lawson, Aaron Afflalo.

Well for one you called Blazers "baby Aldridge's Blazers"... This makes me laugh you have never even heard of man by the name of Brandon Roy...:facepalm



Arbitrary Water, you are seriously the worst poster on these forums. You just started to pretend to watch the NBA a few years ago. You have no idea what you are talking about and you just copy paste LeBron stats from other forums. You have zero insight to the game of basketball. Do us all favor and stick to spamming nonsense on the BTE because your posts here are beyond worthless.

[StephHamann]

The East had THREE ELITE/CONTENDING Teams, Cavs/Celtics/Magic, infinitely stronger than the West with the Lakers and?!

The 2008-2010 East is therefore is easily tougher to get out of...



http://media.giphy.com/media/vgUFOWBwBkziE/giphy.gif

[Uncle Drew]

No team with this man on the roster is ever sad.

https://www.bisnow.com/archives/dfwre/2012/Q2/images/meccadirkn.jpg
He's actually the reason why it's sad. Dirk deserves better.

[El Gato Negro]

Cautiously optimistic for the upcoming season.

[ArbitraryWater]

boo boo ba

come again in respected poster?

[BuffaloBill]

West is ridiculously stacked

[GIF REACTION]

If the conference disparity were displayed in pizza, what would it look like

[Rocketswin2013]

Most talented conference ever.

[WayOfWade]

East
1.) Cleveland 58-24
2.) Miami 53-29
3.) Chicago 51-31
4.) Milwaukee 50-32
5.) Washington 46-36
6.) Atlanta 44-38
7. ) Boston 42-40
8.) Indiana 41-41

West
1.) Oklahoma City 62-20
2.) Los Angeles 58-24
3.) Golden State 57-25
4.) Houston 56-26
5.) San Antonio 55-27
6.) New Orleans 52-30
7.) Memphis 49-33
8.) Utah 45-37


Fixed...

[Heavincent]

Who cares about a few extra 50 teams like the baby Aldridge Blazers, Artest/Scola Rockets, Williams/Boozer Jazz?

Teams that eventually won't make a difference anyway...

The East had THREE ELITE/CONTENDING Teams, Cavs/Celtics/Magic, infinitely stronger than the West with the Lakers and?!

The 2008-2010 East is therefore is easily tougher to get out of...

But but but 50 win teams!! Jazz, Rockets, Blazers, Dirk one man carrying show, injured/declining Spurs, baby Thunder!!

:blah :blah :blah

I'll just post the standings. You are what your record says you are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_NBA_season#By_conference

EIGHT 50+ win teams compared to just 3 for the East. Also, the East had 5 teams with 45 or less wins, and 1 team with under 37 wins. You're trying to tell me the Celtics had a tougher road than the Lakers in 08? :roll:

37 win Hawks
45 win Cavs
59 win Pistons (who were old and over the hill, record inflated by bad conference)

Compare this to:

50 win Nuggets
54 win Jazz
56 win Spurs (defending champs)

09 wasn't that great by West standards, whatever. Still much better than the East. Celtics sans KG weren't a threat, so you're left with the Magic and Cavs. Kobe still had to go against a pretty stacked Nuggets team (better than any team in the East).

In 2010, Kobe and the Lakers once again had to go through 3 50 win teams to make the Finals.

50 win Thunder with Westbrook and Durant

53 win Jazz, who had some injuries but were still solid with prime Williams, Millsap, Boozer, Matthews, and Korver.

54 win Suns, who were stacked as ****. Prime Nash and Amare, with good 3 point shooters all over the court (like J Rich, Frye, Hill, Barbosa, Dragic, etc.). Historically good offense. Kobe had to have one of the best playoff performances ever to beat them in 6 games.


11 of the 12 teams Kobe played between 08 and 10 won 50 games or more..yup, the basketball Gods opened up the gates for Kobe. Kobe didn't have to go against juggernauts like the 2011 Sixers, 2012 Bucks, 2013 Bobcats, JV Bulls X2, 2015 Celtics, etc. Brandon Jennings would have taken it to Kobe. Same with the Al Jefferson led sub 40 win Bobcats. Kobe is so lucky man...feasted on weak competition his whole career.

Oh wait...

http://i.imgur.com/CIu6gDI.jpg

Note the guy on the top of the list.

[ArbitraryWater]

Thanks, I guess all you needed for that was read my first line.. "we can repeat the 50 win shit all the time" but you chose to ignore context :ohwell:

"You are what your record says you are" Hawks bout to have another 60 win season :yaohappy:

[jayfan]

East
1.) Cleveland 58-24
2.) Miami 53-29
3.) Chicago 51-31
4.) Milwaukee 50-32
5.) Washington 46-36
6.) Atlanta 44-38
7. ) Boston 42-40
8.) Indiana 41-41

West
1.) Oklahoma City 62-20
2.) Los Angeles 58-24
3.) Golden State 57-25
4.) Houston 56-26
5.) San Antonio 55-27
6.) New Orleans 52-30
7.) Memphis 49-33
8.) Sacramento 45-37

I have spoken.

Utah's making the playoffs. Don't let Exum's injury throw you.

.

[LoneyROY7]

Hope everyone's feeling extra TURNT today! :rockon:

[RidonKs]

:blah :blah :blah

I'll just post the standings. You are what your record says you are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_NBA_season#By_conference

EIGHT 50+ win teams compared to just 3 for the East. Also, the East had 5 teams with 45 or less wins, and 1 team with under 37 wins. You're trying to tell me the Celtics had a tougher road than the Lakers in 08? :roll:

37 win Hawks
45 win Cavs
59 win Pistons (who were old and over the hill, record inflated by bad conference)

Compare this to:

50 win Nuggets
54 win Jazz
56 win Spurs (defending champs)

09 wasn't that great by West standards, whatever. Still much better than the East. Celtics sans KG weren't a threat, so you're left with the Magic and Cavs. Kobe still had to go against a pretty stacked Nuggets team (better than any team in the East).

In 2010, Kobe and the Lakers once again had to go through 3 50 win teams to make the Finals.

50 win Thunder with Westbrook and Durant

53 win Jazz, who had some injuries but were still solid with prime Williams, Millsap, Boozer, Matthews, and Korver.

54 win Suns, who were stacked as ****. Prime Nash and Amare, with good 3 point shooters all over the court (like J Rich, Frye, Hill, Barbosa, Dragic, etc.). Historically good offense. Kobe had to have one of the best playoff performances ever to beat them in 6 games.


11 of the 12 teams Kobe played between 08 and 10 won 50 games or more..yup, the basketball Gods opened up the gates for Kobe. Kobe didn't have to go against juggernauts like the 2011 Sixers, 2012 Bucks, 2013 Bobcats, JV Bulls X2, 2015 Celtics, etc. Brandon Jennings would have taken it to Kobe. Same with the Al Jefferson led sub 40 win Bobcats. Kobe is so lucky man...feasted on weak competition his whole career.

Oh wait...

http://i.imgur.com/CIu6gDI.jpg

Note the guy on the top of the list.
the whole conference parity problem is going to be a weapon leveled at lebron for the rest of his life..

[Heavincent]

Thanks, I guess all you needed for that was read my first line.. "we can repeat the 50 win shit all the time" but you chose to ignore context :ohwell:

"You are what your record says you are" Hawks bout to have another 60 win season :yaohappy:

Correction: You are what your record says you are in the West. Records get inflated in the East.

But yes, lets keep pretending 50 win teams don't matter. The 50 win Thunder with Westbrook and Durant is basically the same as the 38 win Bucks, right? 50 win Nuggets in 08 are on par with one of those shitty Knicks teams. The mediocre Bulls ravaged by injuries are just as good as the 08 Jazz, who won 54 games with prime Deron Williams (arguably the best PG in the league at the time), AK-47, Okur, Milsap, and Korver, etc.

None of it matters because reasons.

I provided more context than you did. I actually watched the NBA back then. I remember all of these teams. They won 50+ games for a reason. A couple of them like the 09 Rockets and Jazz had some injury issues, but that happens every year. Most of these teams were healthy, and very good.

Kobe's competition between 08 and 10 was better than what the vast majority of all time greats have to go against. Magic feasted on the shitty western conference of the 80's, Lebron gets to breeze through the heaping garbage fire that is the East (dude gets a first round bye every year, sometimes even a second round bye), etc.

This isn't a road you want to go down. Again:

http://i.imgur.com/CIu6gDI.jpg

[Rocketswin2013]

the whole conference parity problem is going to be a weapon leveled at lebron for the rest of his life..
It's an exaggerated argument that can be "leveled" against other players like Magic and Kareem.

[ekosky]

Kevin Durant and LeBron James is all I know.

[StephHamann]

09 east was stronger than the West, i'll give you that, but the Lakers dominated the Magic 4-0 in the finals so there's that.

10 West just look at the Lakers first! round: 50 win Thunder with Westbrook and Durant

The very next year those same Thunder were only stopped by godlike Dirk in the WCF, they were already a great team.

[LoneyROY7]

Kevin Durant and LeBron James is all I know.

You turnt today or what, bruh?

[G0ATbe]

Most of these teams rosters will be injury plagued sometime between all star weekend-playoff time. LeBald voodoo takes no prisoners.