NBA all-time first team. Who plays center?

[Akrazotile]

Seems most positions are clear enough.

G - Magic Johnson
G - Michael Jordan
F - Larry Bird
F - Tim Duncan
C - ??

Let's say this was a team and you had to fill the center spot to compete against other hypothetical teams.

We gonna act like you wouldnt pick Shaq? Seriously. We just gonna act that way?

I dont care about longevity, stats, or team accolades. When push comes to shove and you want to win, youre taking 8-10 years of prime Shaq over anything else available.

Case closed. Shaq is #1 in GOAT Center rankings.

[ClipperRevival]

I take peak Hakeem and feel content. KAJ 2nd. Shaq 3rd.

[bdreason]

Wilt.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Peak: Shaq (followed by Kareem and Wilt)

Overall: Kareem

[Lakers Legend#32]

Kareem

[Kobe_6/8]

Seems most positions are clear enough.

G - Magic Johnson
G - Michael Jordan
F - Larry Bird
F - Tim Duncan
C - ??

Let's say this was a team and you had to fill the center spot to compete against other hypothetical teams.

We gonna act like you wouldnt pick Shaq? Seriously. We just gonna act that way?

I dont care about longevity, stats, or team accolades.When push comes to shove and you want to win, youre taking 8-10 years of prime Shaq over anything else available.

Case closed. Shaq is #1 in GOAT Center rankings.

What do you care about?

[GIF REACTION]

What do you care about?
he doesn't care about anything that's why he has failed at every he has tried

[GIF REACTION]

op has less determination than a dead person

[warriorfan]

op has less determination than a dead person

what about his cool blog about traveling across the desert by himself and eating mcdonalds?

[oarabbus]

Seems most positions are clear enough.

G - Magic Johnson
G - Michael Jordan
F - Larry Bird
F - Tim Duncan
C - ??

Let's say this was a team and you had to fill the center spot to compete against other hypothetical teams.

We gonna act like you wouldnt pick Shaq? Seriously. We just gonna act that way?

I dont care about longevity, stats, or team accolades. When push comes to shove and you want to win, youre taking 8-10 years of prime Shaq over anything else available.

Case closed. Shaq is #1 in GOAT Center rankings.

There are only 5 potential candidates here.

Wilt, Russell, Hakeem, Kareem, and Shaq.

Due to the makeup of the team (Jordan at 2, Bird at 3, Duncan at 4) I will want to take the guy who doesn't need to score to win. The guy who provides incredible defense and can lead this Team of Champions. There is only one.

Bill Russell!

[toxicxr6]

There are only 5 potential candidates here.

Wilt, Russell, Hakeem, Kareem, and Shaq.

Due to the makeup of the team (Jordan at 2, Bird at 3, Duncan at 4) I will want to take the guy who doesn't need to score to win. The guy who provides incredible defense and can lead this Team of Champions. There is only one.

Bill Russell!

I don't think it matters which C you chose here out of the ones listed above.. This team is winning championships no matter what against anyone

[pastis]

Johnson
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Shaq


or
Kidd
Kobe
Lebron
Dirk
Duncan

or
Stockton
Wade
Durant
KG
Hakeem

[AnaheimLakers24]

Duncan and shat starting together :lol
this is why euros like op shouldnt talk ball.
2/6

[wally_world]

Taking into account the entire career (as we should):
Russell/KAJ (personally it's Russell for me)
Hakeem
Shaq/Wilt

Peak:
Shaq
Wilt

[aj1987]

Taking into account the entire career (as we should):
Russell/KAJ (personally it's Russell for me)
Hakeem
Shaq/Wilt

Peak:
Shaq
Wilt
:biggums: :wtf:

[AirFederer]

The one who was not only the best center, Mr Record breaker, but also the killer of lions, seducer of 20 000 women, the strongest man ever, the fastest runner i sports ever (also barefoot :eek: ), the highest leaper, world class volleyballplayer, and possibly goat heavy weight boxer (if Ali didn`t back out - afraid much :confusedshrug: :roll: )

So this guy

http://boxinghalloffame.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/11224-SAMMY-DAVIS-JR.-WILT-CHAMBERLAIN-HOLLYWOOD.bmp

[kennethgriffin]

is this thread a joke?


the list is based on careers and people are considering anyone but kareem?


cap has a better overall career than mike

:lol


and if OP's list wasnt based on careers and instead primes then big O would be the PG, elgin baylor would be SF, and charles barkley would play PF




shut this mother f*cking thread down

[kennethgriffin]

careers:

PG - magic
SG - jordan
SF - bird
PF - Duncan
C - Kareem


primes:

PG - big O
SG - jordan/kobe
SF - Baylor
PF - barkley
C - Wilt/shaq

[aj1987]

careers:

PG - magic
SG - jordan
SF - bird
PF - Duncan
C - Kareem


primes:

PG - big O
SG - jordan/kobe
SF - Baylor
PF - barkley
C - Wilt/shaq
http://i.imgur.com/kRrkfUU.gif

[kennethgriffin]

http://i.imgur.com/kRrkfUU.gif


you do realize if careers arent part of the equation and primes are the main deciding factor...:


PG - big O ( 31/13/11 ) >>>>>> ( 24/6/12 ) magic
SF - baylor ( 38/19/5 ) >>>>>> ( 29/10/6 ) bird
PF - Barkley ( 28/12/3 ) >>>>> ( 23/12/3 ) Duncan




take away all success and big O, baylor, barkley are the right choices


know your history son. do a bit of research before using gif responses

:lol


and kobe at his best = 35/5/5 modern era + 81 modern era + out scoring teams by himself + 62 in 3 quarters while mike only ever scored 61 through 4 quarters... kobe at his best is right there with MJ

[aj1987]

you do realize if careers arent part of the equation and primes are the main deciding factor...:


PG - big O ( 31/13/11 ) >>>>>> ( 24/6/12 ) magic
SF - baylor ( 38/19/5 ) >>>>>> ( 29/10/6 ) bird
PF - Barkley ( 28/12/3 ) >>>>> ( 23/12/3 ) Duncan




take away all success and big O, baylor, barkley are the right choices


know your history son. do a bit of research before using gif responses

:lol


and kobe at his best = 35/5/5 modern era + 81 modern era + out scoring teams by himself + 62 in 3 quarters while mike only ever scored 61 through 4 quarters... kobe at his best is right there with MJ

I wouldn't except a dumb**** like you to understand unit cohesion and the ability of players to play defense.

A team of Magic/Jordan/Bird/Duncan/Shaq would take a massive steaming pile of shit on that team of yours. There's literally no one on your team who can stop Magic/Duncan/Bird. Meanwhile, Duncan can absolutely shut down Chuck and Bird can slow down Baylor. Heck, replace Bird with Pippen and Baylor is getting shutdown as well.

Wow! Kobe had 2 games better than MJ. How many 60 point games, 50 point games, 40 PPG+ series, 40 PPG PO's, 35 PPG PO runs, etc?

MJ >>>>>>>>>> Kobe and it's not even remotely close.

[kennethgriffin]

I wouldn't except a dumb**** like you to understand unit cohesion and the ability of players to play defense.

A team of Magic/Jordan/Bird/Duncan/Shaq would take a massive steaming pile of shit on that team of yours. There's literally no one on your team who can stop Magic/Duncan/Bird. Meanwhile, Duncan can absolutely shut down Chuck and Bird can slow down Baylor. Heck, replace Bird with Pippen and Baylor is getting shutdown as well.

Wow! Kobe had 2 games better than MJ. How many 60 point games, 50 point games, 40 PPG+ series, 40 PPG PO's, 35 PPG PO runs, etc?

MJ >>>>>>>>>> Kobe and it's not even remotely close.

you mean expect right?


and wtf since when are we talking about how the all time 5 would play together?


if we're just making teams to compete thats a whole different story than the all time best 5


why would you have magic johnson or any ball dominant play making PG that runs fast break basketball if you dont have complimentary players?


that wouldnt gell with half court iso guys like jordan etc...



if youre putting together a team to win you have to consider defensive specialists and not pick all offensive weapons


a team can have at most 3 offensive juggernauts on the floor at once

if youre building around magic you need shooters with defense that run the floor and are unselfish

if you have guys like bird and jordan or an iso offensive center like wilt/shaq... then you need an unselfish spot up three point shooting defensive minded PG



which is why shaq/jordan/kobe types won with PG's like kerr/fisher

kobe and pippen brought up the ball and were the scoring/playmakers

jordan and shaq were the post up guys kicking it out


learn a bit about basketball.. then get back to me

[kennethgriffin]

if we're making a team based on how well they would play together and offensive/defensive cohesiveness

i'm going with


PG - stockton ( best offensive/defensive PG ever with spot up 3pt shooting )
SG - Kobe ( best high volume scorer with D that can co exist with shaq )
SF - Bird ( unselfish with passing/D. likes kobe and wants to play with him )
PF - Rodman ( dont need more offense. just rebounding and D )
C - Shaq ( works best with kobe )


this is the perfect team that IMO would complinent each other best

[aj1987]

you mean expect right?


and wtf since when are we talking about how the all time 5 would play together?


if we're just making teams to compete thats a whole different story than the all time best 5


why would you have magic johnson or any ball dominant play making PG that runs fast break basketball if you dont have complimentary players?


that wouldnt gell with half court iso guys like jordan etc...
:biggums:

Stop talking out your ass.




if youre putting together a team to win you have to consider defensive specialists and not pick all offensive weapons
And that's exactly what I did. I have one of the GOAT perimeter defenders, one of the GOAT interior defenders, and another 2 very good-elite defenders in Shaq and Bird.



a team can have at most 3 offensive juggernauts on the floor at once
Ok...?


if youre building around magic you need shooters with defense that run the floor and are unselfish
Bird and MJ and good shooters, dolt.


if you have guys like bird and jordan or an iso offensive center like wilt/shaq... then you need an unselfish spot up three point shooting defensive minded PG
Again, stop talking out your ass. You literally have no basketball knowledge.


kobe and pippen brought up the ball and were the scoring/playmakers

jordan and shaq were the post up guys kicking it out

learn a bit about basketball.. then get back to me
MJ and Bird can play off the ball and they're VERY good at it. As is Duncan.

Seems like the only basketball you know is scoring and more scoring.

EDIT: You do know that Baylor averaged 24 shots a game and O averaged 20, right? First you hide behind stats, when I bring up defense and chemistry, you start babbling like an idiot.

[AirFederer]

careers:

PG - magic
SG - jordan
SF - bird
PF - Duncan
C - Kareem


primes:

PG - big O
SG - jordan/kobe
SF - Baylor
PF - barkley
C - Wilt/shaq


https://www.canesinsight.com/proxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzcD8Trp.g if

[kennethgriffin]

:biggums:

Stop talking out your ass.




And that's exactly what I did. I have one of the GOAT perimeter defenders, one of the GOAT interior defenders, and another 2 very good-elite defenders in Shaq and Bird.



Ok...?


Bird and MJ and good shooters, dolt.


Again, stop talking out your ass. You literally have no basketball knowledge.


MJ and Bird can play off the ball and they're VERY good at it. As is Duncan.

Seems like the only basketball you know is scoring and more scoring.

EDIT: You do know that Baylor averaged 24 shots a game and O averaged 20, right? First you hide behind stats, when I bring up defense and chemistry, you start babbling like an idiot.

jordan isnt a good outside shooter LOL


you need a guy like kobe if youre playing with dominant offensive post players


otherwise jordan has to stand on the other side of the court when shaq or wilt have the ball


kobe is the better choice on a super team



jordans wide open three point percentage with thousands of less attempts is still lower than kobe ( a high volume contested 3 point shooter )

kobes range is unlimited... you want shaq or wilt kicking it out to him

[RidonKs]

on that team? gimme young agile bill walton and call it a night.

tho the best guy for that team is clearly young sabonis


edit: though kg and young shaq would be better than any other possible combination imo, with those other starters

[aj1987]

jordan isnt a good outside shooter LOL


you need a guy like kobe if youre playing with dominant offensive post players
MJ is a MUCH better shooter than Kobe. Not even close.

Offensive post players? Bird, MJ, Magic, Shaq, and Duncan. All of them. :oldlol:


kobe is the better choice on a super team
:roll:

Kobe is NEVER a better choice, when MJ is still available.


jordans wide open three point percentage with thousands of less attempts is still lower than kobe ( a high volume contested 3 point shooter )
Kobe, even more wide open for his 3's shoots 33.1% form the 3. MJ is at 33.2%. This doesn't take into account the mid-rarnge game, in which MJ makes Kobe look like a scrub.


kobes range is unlimited... you want shaq or wilt kicking it out to him
What does it matter when he's shooting the same % as MJ?

Oh, and MJ is a better post player, playmaker, defender, offball player, etc.. Kobe has literally no arguments over MJ.

[kennethgriffin]

MJ is a MUCH better shooter than Kobe. Not even close.

Offensive post players? Bird, MJ, Magic, Shaq, and Duncan. All of them. :oldlol:


:roll:

Kobe is NEVER a better choice, when MJ is still available.


Kobe, even more wide open for his 3's shoots 33.1% form the 3. MJ is at 33.2%. This doesn't take into account the mid-rarnge game, in which MJ makes Kobe look like a scrub.


What does it matter when he's shooting the same % as MJ?

Oh, and MJ is a better post player, playmaker, defender, offball player, etc.. Kobe has literally no arguments over MJ.



stopped reading there. ignore list

[kennethgriffin]

on that team? gimme young agile bill walton and call it a night.

tho the best guy for that team is clearly young sabonis


wow. someone with a brain that can think outside the box


:applause:

[aj1987]

stopped reading there. ignore list
You do realize that shooting doesn't just include 3 pointers, right? Of course, you don't.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

stopped reading there. ignore list

He's not a better shooter, but lol @ you ignoring playoff 3PT %, and the fact MJ was better from midrange than Kobe.

If you REALLY wanted a pure shooting 2, you'd go with Jerry West.

[ShawkFactory]

jordan isnt a good outside shooter LOL


you need a guy like kobe if youre playing with dominant offensive post players


otherwise jordan has to stand on the other side of the court when shaq or wilt have the ball


kobe is the better choice on a super team



jordans wide open three point percentage with thousands of less attempts is still lower than kobe ( a high volume contested 3 point shooter )

kobes range is unlimited... you want shaq or wilt kicking it out to him
If Kobe and Jordan are available to be picked, the only time anyone would ever pick Kobe when something is to be won is if its a 3pt contest.

Jordan, at his peak, was a better basketball player than Kobe at his. He stepped his game up in the playoffs against the toughest teams. Not in the regular season against the Raptors.

I don't know why this needs to be said. What separates MJ and Kobe isn't accolades. There's a reason Jordan has more. He was a more dominant player. Come on son. Kobe is not fvcking with first 3peat Jordan. No one is really.

And on that we can call it a day.

[RidonKs]

Kobe is NEVER a better choice, when MJ is still available.
if kobe doesn't get the ball in his hands and has to play off ball and if he doesn't have anybody incredible to defend, i'd take him next to say lebron james or in like a magic/nique/barkley/noah super team. kobe is a better player than mj further from the hoop, and both charles and noah like to play in the same midrange spots mj likes to post up.

if you need a floor spacer or a catch and shooter or even a decoy who the other team doesn't want taking a shot, you take kobe. very few scenarios he's a better choice but there are a couple.

[ralph_i_el]

you do realize if careers arent part of the equation and primes are the main deciding factor...:


PG - big O ( 31/13/11 ) >>>>>> ( 24/6/12 ) magic
SF - baylor ( 38/19/5 ) >>>>>> ( 29/10/6 ) bird
PF - Barkley ( 28/12/3 ) >>>>> ( 23/12/3 ) Duncan




take away all success and big O, baylor, barkley are the right choices


know your history son. do a bit of research before using gif responses

:lol


and kobe at his best = 35/5/5 modern era + 81 modern era + out scoring teams by himself + 62 in 3 quarters while mike only ever scored 61 through 4 quarters... kobe at his best is right there with MJ

The main deciding factor is not statlines man.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Well you included play in the title so I assume a game is going to be played

I pick Hakeem. No one is scoring in the paint against Duncan and Hakeem, and Hakeem destroyed Shaq before