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gigantes
08-06-2015, 04:34 PM
i'm really enjoying these 'best moments' daily show clips.


this one here may be what he does most amazingly... appearing on another show, slamming it in front of a live audience, and helping to get the show cancelled within months. just... wow.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aFQFB5YpDZE/mqdefault.jpg
Jon Stewart on Crossfire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE)


the rest are here:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-daily-show-jon-stewart-best-moments-2015-8


tonight is the last show, i believe.
RIP, the daily show with jon stewart. :(

UK2K
08-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Never thought he was funny.

There's something about one guy having a show and telling you his opinion without anybody to challenge it.

Probably the same reason I hated Rome is Burning.

NumberSix
08-06-2015, 05:02 PM
i'm really enjoying these 'best moments' daily show clips.


this one here may be what he does most amazingly... appearing on another show, slamming it in front of a live audience, and getting the show cancelled within months. just... wow.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aFQFB5YpDZE/mqdefault.jpg
Jon Stewart on Crossfire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE)


the rest are here:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-daily-show-jon-stewart-best-moments-2015-8


RIP, the daily show with jon stewart. :(
Wait... Do people actually believe this? :wtf:

KingBeasley08
08-06-2015, 05:09 PM
I remember this. Completely destroyed Tucker Carlson. The dude targets Fox News a lot more but some of his greatest moments are when he clowns CNN


Wait... Do people actually believe this? :wtf:
CNN President said that his appearance on the show is a big reason why they eventually cancelled it.

Rake2204
08-06-2015, 05:36 PM
Wait... Do people actually believe this? :wtf:I've always wondered if he played any role in the show's cancellation. I never paid enough attention to know one way or another. In the least, it'd seem CNN's president Jonathan Klein agreed with Stewart when it came to cancelling Crossfire.


Mr. Klein said he wanted to move CNN away from what he called "head-butting debate shows," which have become the staple of much of all-news television in the prime-time hours, especially at the top-rated Fox News Channel.

"CNN is a different animal," Mr. Klein said. "We report the news. Fox talks about the news. They're very good at what they do and we're very good at what we do."

Mr. Klein specifically cited the criticism that the comedian Jon Stewart leveled at "Crossfire" when he was a guest on the program during the presidential campaign. Mr. Stewart said that ranting partisan political shows on cable were "hurting America."

Mr. Klein said last night, "I agree wholeheartedly with Jon Stewart's overall premise." He said he believed that especially after the terror attacks on 9/11, viewers are interested in information, not opinion.http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/business/media/cnn-will-cancel-crossfire-and-cut-ties-to-commentator.html

Of course, unless there's more stories and explanations out there saying otherwise, Klein could have already been moving away from the format whether Stewart appeared or not. Or maybe Stewart provided the final push over the edge.

NumberSix
08-06-2015, 05:45 PM
I remember this. Completely destroyed Tucker Carlson. The dude targets Fox News a lot more but some of his greatest moments are when he clowns CNN


CNN President said that his appearance on the show is a big reason why they eventually cancelled it.
I think that was kind of a face saving move. It also seems like he merely said, he agrees with Stewarts opinion, not that Stewart had anything to do with it.

The truth is though, the end was pretty much set in stone months before Stewart appeared on the show. Tucker Carlson specifically said that he told CNN he was leaving the network at the end of his contract months before Stewarts appearance.

longtime lurker
08-06-2015, 06:15 PM
Never thought he was funny.

There's something about one guy having a show and telling you his opinion without anybody to challenge it.

Probably the same reason I hated Rome is Burning.

Of course not. He skewers morons like you on a regular basis.

gigantes
08-06-2015, 06:31 PM
Never thought he was funny.

There's something about one guy having a show and telling you his opinion without anybody to challenge it.

Probably the same reason I hated Rome is Burning.
sounds like you hardly saw the show.

stewart had guests on all the time and was rarely (if ever) afraid to throw down with them if he felt that the issue warranted it. the link i gave earlier is full of such examples.



I think that was kind of a face saving move. It also seems like he merely said, he agrees with Stewarts opinion, not that Stewart had anything to do with it.

The truth is though, the end was pretty much set in stone months before Stewart appeared on the show. Tucker Carlson specifically said that he told CNN he was leaving the network at the end of his contract months before Stewarts appearance.
of course you're entitled to your ideas, but i'm going off of what the CNN prez specifically said. however, i'll edit that to "helped to get cancelled."

RidonKs
08-06-2015, 06:36 PM
he's right there with letterman and carson a future godfather of political comedy / late night entertainment... he's not leaving center stage though, give it another five years and we'll get more full frontal comedy from him

KingBeasley08
08-06-2015, 06:42 PM
It's crazy how influential The Daily Show has been

Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell, Ed Helms, John Oliver are all pretty big comedians/actors/hosts now and they got their break working for Stewart. End of an era

RidonKs
08-06-2015, 06:51 PM
It's crazy how influential The Daily Show has been

Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell, Ed Helms, John Oliver are all pretty big comedians/actors/hosts now and they got their break working for Stewart. End of an era
i expect some of the older cast to move on with stewart, leaving the young writers to build something else with the south african guy, forget his name. which means that those old heads will be moving onto bigger and better and start to get name brand recognition. aasif mandvi, jason jones, samantha bee, john hodgman already has a good career, same with kristin schaal, wyatt the black guy

the best talent left there is al madrigal and jordan klepper who are both pretty new but product amazing segments every time. jessica williams is horrendous, ish will like that fact too because she's a woman and she's also black and she also does a lot of social justice baiting type stuff.

trevor noah is the name of the new guy. i listened to an interview with him and he didn't blow me away, but its a different game performing scripted material so i'll watch with an open mind. tho not nearly as often falling to presumably never a couple of months after stewart leaves. show won't be the same though it'll stick around for a while like the simpsons because younger viewers will always be attracted to that brand of satire.

KingBeasley08
08-06-2015, 06:57 PM
You're right, most of the older folks have been moving on recently. I think Jason Jones and Samantha Bee left recently. I like the Egyptian dude who comes on every once in a while. He's like a Middle Eastern Jon Stewart :lol

yea I'm hoping for the best from Noah but I'm keeping expectations a little low. Comedy Central missed out on getting Oliver to replace Stewart though. He was the perfect replacement although it worked out for him cause his show is amazing and one could argue it's even better

UK2K
08-06-2015, 07:18 PM
sounds like you hardly saw the show.

stewart had guests on all the time and was rarely (if ever) afraid to throw down with them if he felt that the issue warranted it. the link i gave earlier is full of such examples.



of course you're entitled to your ideas, but i'm going off of what the CNN prez specifically said. however, i'll edit that to "helped to get cancelled."

Eh, he had good bits. Rob Riggle was on for a while, I like him.

Just seemed like his monologues ran a bit too long.

Jim Rome had guests too, but for stretches hed stand there and tell you his opinion on everything as if it was fact.

UK2K
08-06-2015, 07:19 PM
Of course not. He skewers morons like you on a regular basis.
Still so salty.

SCdac
08-06-2015, 07:20 PM
Got burned out on the show a long time ago. just got repetitive over the years and Stewart's shtick got old (to me). Kinda went from witty political/social commentary with great contributors to being a predictable mouthpiece/cheerleader for the left. I think guys like Colbert and Carrell moved on to bigger and better things... because they are bigger and better. Both of them are much funnier than Stewart imo. Having said that, he was funny at times, it was a comedy show and he provided some laughs.

NumberSix
08-06-2015, 07:24 PM
Maher >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stewart.

gigantes
08-06-2015, 08:02 PM
hmm... i started looking for something with both maher and stewart in it and found this. the host's commentary after the clip was also pretty interesting.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/naPYrR1Wqyo/mqdefault.jpg
THROWBACK: Bill Maher Goes After Jon Stewart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naPYrR1Wqyo)

FillJackson
08-06-2015, 10:44 PM
The truth is though, the end was pretty much set in stone months before Stewart appeared on the show. Tucker Carlson specifically said that he told CNN he was leaving the network at the end of his contract months before Stewarts appearance.

How is that the truth? You can have a show continue with a different host.
You know like how Crossfire did for the history of the show, Novak replaced Buchanan who then came back and replaced Novak. Kinsley replaced Braden and then Press and Ferraro replaced Kinsley.

Tucker Carson is some sort of irreplaceable broadcasting genius? This is ridiculous. When a show is a hit you can easily find a new host. So no, that is not the truth. Give Stewart his credit, that was a notch on his belt.

I also don't know why you credit Carlson's face saving spin. His MSNBC gig was not done when he got fired from CNN.

CNN has ended its relationship with the conservative commentator Tucker Carlson and will shortly cancel its long-running daily political discussion program, "Crossfire," the new president of CNN, Jonathan Klein, said last night.

Mr. Carlson said he had actually quit "Crossfire" last April and had agreed to stay on until his contract expired. He said he had a deal in place for a job as the host of a 9 p.m. nightly talk program on MSNBC, CNN's rival.

One NBC News executive said that no deal had been completed between MSNBC and Mr. Carlson. "Tucker is a great journalist and we are exploring options with him for a 9 p.m. job," said Jeremy Gaines, a spokesman for MSNBC.

Cowboy Thunder
08-07-2015, 01:03 AM
Le Sigh. Gonna miss Jon Stewart and the Daily Show.

:cry:

BlakFrankWhite
08-07-2015, 01:25 AM
Big fan of the dude.

Spits truth bombs

Droid101
08-07-2015, 02:18 AM
http://t.co/BzwhwwrJO0
What a boss.

BlakFrankWhite
08-07-2015, 02:36 AM
I used like Maher until he turned into an Islam-hating bigot.

Ben al-Afleck really schooled him tho....lol

RidonKs
08-07-2015, 11:59 AM
Ben's just an actor. Don't think he actually acts like he knows shit like Maher does.

Maher is O'Reilly-lite, he bullies certain guests to some extend to not make it too obvious that he's actually a conservative. It's weird how he comes off very liberal though.
true that

bad jokes, squeamish expressions, poor timing, faulty logic, condescending tone

this is a bill maher performance in a nut shell

gigantes
08-07-2015, 03:23 PM
oh, i'm gonna call "nonsense" on you guys! maher has his faults, such as being too precious at times, but he's very unlike o'reilly. any resemblance is only in passing.

no... maher can go from being very polite and an excellent listener to matching a pushy guest shot for shot, but it depends on how they are behaving. at the same time, he will consistently let himself get interrupted if it seems another person is on to an interesting point. i like that.

all of that is obviously a huge difference from o'reilly, who generally starts with his own agenda and is deadset on driving it home no matter how much of a dickhead / blowhard he needs to be.

also, the idea that maher seems conservative or liberal really misses the point of his whole approach IMO. from what i see the dude is as rational as just about anyone you could meet... meaning he looks at an issue from a perspective of logic, humor and common sense without regard to where that leaves him on the common political spectrum. unsurprisingly, this is what makes him such a mish-mash of opinions and values... which he sometimes calls a form of liberalism i believe.

KingBeasley08
08-07-2015, 03:31 PM
Maher is ok but he's def an asshole. My problem with him is that he just isn't that funny. At the end of the day, I'm watching this ish to laugh. In terms of comedic ability

Colbert > Stewart >>> Oliver >>>>>>>> Maher

Timmy D for MVP
08-07-2015, 03:56 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what happens going forward with the DS. Jon Stewart revolutionized television, and in the process helped along numerous talents to take their own place in TV. Without Stewart everyone else has passed the DS up (if you don't think they already had in the last couple years).

I guess we'll see what the new guy's got.