whale shark being dismembered while still alive

[SugarHill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoxaOM0FflI

they gave no fvcks yikes:biggums:

[dazzer87]

wow thats fvked up................:facepalm :eek:

[navy]

Meh.

I dont get animal protection shit like this. I mean im sure they didnt expect it to live that long.

[KirbyPls]

Probably Kobe fans no doubt. :facepalm

[West-Side]

Honestly, this almost makes me want to cry.
I ****ing hate humans.

[SugarHill]

Meh.

I dont get animal protection shit like this. I mean im sure they didnt expect it to live that long.
what? :facepalm

[navy]

what? :facepalm

I have no conscience


damn auto correct

[HitandRun Reggie]

This is illegal even in China so the fishermen will likely be in big trouble for killing a protected species but it's not really any more cruel than gutting a trout, or especially a catfish who's gills and mouth still move even after they are "beheaded",and are probably no less intelligent or aware than a whale shark. It just looks bad because of their massive size. I suppose they could put a bullet in it's brain to put it out of it's misery but guns are outlawed in China.

Like I said, millions of smaller fish suffer the same fate every day and no one cares. And that white meat inside the fish looks delicious....

[SugarHill]

I have no conscious.
nah. you just say that but if you were there watching that, you'd be disgusted and horrified. the thing was alive man and making noises :coleman:

[iTare]

Shit looks good tho...

[HitandRun Reggie]

Honestly, this almost makes me want to cry.
I ****ing hate humans.

Please spare the world's plants and animals from one more mouth consuming them and promptly kill yourself

[GIF REACTION]

Meh

Whale is a staple part of many Asian countries diet. It's just social programming. Same thing with how they eat dog. To the western world it is disgusting, because we associate dogs as pets. You can condemn these asian countries for killing whales but on the flipside, we are butchering cattle and chicken, mass genocide, yet not many people seem to care.

Perhaps the savagery in which the whale was killed, but in the end killing something is killing something. The end result is the same. Flesh for eating!!!!

[West-Side]

Please spare the world's plants and animals from one more mouth consuming them and promptly kill yourself

No dipshit, there aren't thousands of these species around the world. We need to preserve their lives. That's why there was such a huge public outcry towards that Lion that was killed by the hunter.

Plus, they are TORTURING the animal which makes me extremely uneasy about that video. I couldn't even finish it.

Just disgusting act of savagery.

[West-Side]

Meh

Whale is a staple part of many Asian countries diet. It's just social programming. Same thing with how they eat dog. To the western world it is disgusting, because we associate dogs as pets. You can condemn these asian countries for killing whales but on the flipside, we are butchering cattle and chicken, mass genocide, yet not many people seem to care.

Perhaps the savagery in which the whale was killed, but in the end killing something is killing something. The end result is the same. Flesh for eating!!!!

Uhm they are torturing the animal, not killing it. :facepalm

[SugarHill]

Meh

Whale is a staple part of many Asian countries diet. It's just social programming. Same thing with how they eat dog. To the western world it is disgusting, because we associate dogs as pets. You can condemn these asian countries for killing whales but on the flipside, we are butchering cattle and chicken, mass genocide, yet not many people seem to care.

Perhaps the savagery in which the whale was killed, but in the end killing something is killing something. The end result is the same. Flesh for eating!!!!
that shit is also fvcked up and many people care. this has nothing to do with killing the shark but chopping it up alive. how is that not obvious?

[GIF REACTION]

And it's going to be dead sooner than later. Death is the ultimate. It is the end result.

[BasedTom]

china is ****ED UP

https://youtu.be/U9g-Mgogiok

[West-Side]

And it's going to be dead sooner than later. Death is the ultimate. It is the end result.

That's what separates serial killers and normal people, you sick ****.

[GIF REACTION]

Look at the big picture instead of reacting with emotions every time an isolated event pops up. Like black people every time they hear of a shooting. There are broader implications at work.

[West-Side]

Look at the big picture instead of reacting with emotions every time an isolated event pops up. Like black people every time they hear of a shooting. There are broader implications at work.

Take an animal we eat all the time for example, fish or pig.
You don't think a bunch of teens posting a video of them torturing the animal before it dies, wrong?

Like if they poked out the eyes and set the tail on fire while the fish was still alive? I understand we eat animals but there's a right and wrong way to kill animals. Less suffering is the most appropriate way to kill an animal.

I mean, the whale was moving and crying while these assholes were cutting it piece by piece. Some sick twisted shit man.

[BasedTom]

Take an animal we eat all the time for example, fish or pig.
You don't think a bunch of teens posting a video of them torturing the animal before it dies, wrong?

Like if they poked out the eyes and set the tail on fire while the fish was still alive? I understand we eat animals but there's a right and wrong way to kill animals. Less suffering is the most appropriate way to kill an animal.

I mean, the whale was moving and crying while these assholes were cutting it piece by piece. Some sick twisted shit man.
not sure if you're aware of this, but a lot of the cows and chickens and shit we eat get treated like absolute shit

[West-Side]

not sure if you're aware of this, but a lot of the cows and chickens and shit we eat get treated like absolute shit

You might be right but I don't see that.
If I did, I would have felt just as sick.

Just because these things happen behind close doors, doesn't make it right.
As I've said already, **** humans.

[GreggPopazit]

wow thats fvked up................:facepalm :eek:

This. Shoot it in the head first at least.

[HitandRun Reggie]

I'm not condoning the killing of a protected animal but this is stupid. There are no fish that I know of that are "put out of the misery" before being prepared for consumption other sharks or sailfish that are a danger to fishermen on deck. So basically every fish you eat is either left to die slowly or gutted alive like this fish. It's only because of it's size that's this is an issue.

At least it's not as bad as the many vegetables that are literally eaten alive by us "savage" humans.

[sweggeh]

This is by far one of the worst and disturbing animal abuse videos I have ever seen. Absolutely sickening.

How can you cut up its body while it is still alive? These Chinese devils have no soul. I would feel an ounce of sympathy if I found out each and every one of those fishermen and the people in that crowd were cut up and dismembered while alive so they can feel what that animal went through. In fact I would be happy to see it. Disgusting.

Same goes for any ****** in this thread condoning this behaviour.

[HitandRun Reggie]

This is by far one of the worst and disturbing animal abuse videos I have ever seen. Absolutely sickening.

How can you cut up its body while it is still alive? These Chinese devils have no soul. I would feel an ounce of sympathy if I found out each and every one of those fishermen and the people in that crowd were cut up and dismembered while alive so they can feel what that animal went through. In fact I would be happy to see it. Disgusting.

Same goes for any ****** in this thread condoning this behaviour.

You're an idiot and a hypocrite. Practically every fish you have ever eaten died more or less like this. It's only because of it's size that you care. This is the way fish are killed plain and simple.

[West-Side]

You're an idiot and a hypocrite. Practically every fish you have ever eaten died more or less like this. It's only because of it's size that you care. This is the way fish are killed plain and simple.

You're an idiot.
If I saw any animal being tortured I would feel bad. Yes you are right that there are people out there who torture animals and we eat them. But if I was a fisherman or a hunter, I wouldn't treat them as such.

That's the ****ing difference. Just because you're telling us many people torture animals for food, doesn't make this video okay. :facepalm

And don't say "practically every" fisherman tortures animals. :rolleyes:
There are a lot of unethical practices out there; but we shouldn't turn a blind eye and say it's okay.

Again, I'll repeat it one more time; we do eat animals and we do kill them, but the methods of us killing them should NOT include torturing them as well. Which is exactly what's happening in this video.

[sweggeh]

You're an idiot and a hypocrite. Practically every fish you have ever eaten died more or less like this. It's only because of it's size that you care. This is the way fish are killed plain and simple.

Stfu ***** I aint never eaten no whale. Someone should chop up your bitch ass while you alive. Bet you would love that, huh? No?

Well shut the **** up then and leave these fishes alone you ugly lifeless racist dick sucking punk. Punks like you make me laugh but make me sick at the same time like your moms diseased ******. Get a ****in life bruh.

And if you continue to talk shit I swear I will break your ****in legs. Bitch.

[West-Side]

Stfu ***** I aint never eaten no whale. Someone should chop up your bitch ass while you alive. Bet you would love that, huh? No?

Well shut the **** up then and leave these fishes alone you ugly lifeless racist dick sucking punk. Punks like you make me laugh but make me sick at the same time like your moms diseased ******. Get a ****in life bruh.

And if you continue to talk shit I swear I will break your ****in legs. Bitch.

:roll:



:applause:

[HitandRun Reggie]

You're an idiot.
If I saw any animal being tortured I would feel bad. Yes you are right that there are people out there who torture animals and we eat them. But if I was a fisherman or a hunter, I wouldn't treat them as such.

That's the ****ing difference. Just because you're telling us many people torture animals for food, doesn't make this video okay. :facepalm

And don't say "practically every" fisherman tortures animals. :rolleyes:
There are a lot of unethical practices out there; but we shouldn't turn a blind eye and say it's okay.

Again, I'll repeat it one more time; we do eat animals and we do kill them, but the methods of us killing them should NOT include torturing them as well. Which is exactly what's happening in this video.


Look STFU and just stop eating fish ok because this is the way they are killed. They are not torturing it, they are butchering it alive just like a lot of the fish that end up on your table. There are no concerns by commercial fishermen about dispatching fish quickly so they don't suffer. So either catch your own fish and kill them quickly or keep eating store bought fish and STFU. Like I said, this pales in comparison to the vegetables you literally consume alive.

[SugarHill]

Look STFU and just stop eating fish ok because this is the way they are killed. They are not torturing it, they are butchering it alive just like a lot of the fish that end up on your table. There are no concerns by commercial fishermen about dispatching fish quickly so they don't suffer. So either catch your own fish and kill them quickly or keep eating store bought fish and STFU. Like I said, this pales in comparison to the vegetables you literally consume alive.
what do you keep saying that? are you making a joke or are you serious?

[HitandRun Reggie]

Stfu ***** I aint never eaten no whale. Someone should chop up your bitch ass while you alive. Bet you would love that, huh? No?

Well shut the **** up then and leave these fishes alone you ugly lifeless racist dick sucking punk. Punks like you make me laugh but make me sick at the same time like your moms diseased ******. Get a ****in life bruh.

And if you continue to talk shit I swear I will break your ****in legs. Bitch.

It's not a whale stupid, it's a fish. You're literally like the most effeminate cat on this forum and you're trying to act hard? Besides you'd have to take your trannys c0ck out of your mouth long enough to do something and we all know that ain't happening.

[GIF REACTION]

Look STFU and just stop eating fish ok because this is the way they are killed. They are not torturing it, they are butchering it alive just like a lot of the fish that end up on your table. There are no concerns by commercial fishermen about dispatching fish quickly so they don't suffer. So either catch your own fish and kill them quickly or keep eating store bought fish and STFU. Like I said, this pales in comparison to the vegetables you literally consume alive.
Moral schizophrenia

Same shit with the Cecil Lion thing

Against shit like this yet support the mass genocide of other animals like cattle/smaller fish/chicken/etc

[HitandRun Reggie]

what do you keep saying that? are you making a joke or are you serious?

Not a joke. How far down do you want to go down on the order of life before you start worrying about it's "feelings"? Humans, primates, mammals, fish, invertebrates, plants?

[SugarHill]

Not a joke. How far down do you want to go down on the order of life before you start worrying about it's feeling? Humans, primates, mammals, fish, invertebrates, plants?
I honestly thought you were going somewhere else with that but it looks like it was as transparent as I thought. :coleman:

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't know who are worse, ISIS or China?

[brandonislegend]

This is illegal even in China so the fishermen will likely be in big trouble for killing a protected species but it's not really any more cruel than gutting a trout, or especially a catfish who's gills and mouth still move even after they are "beheaded",and are probably no less intelligent or aware than a whale shark. It just looks bad because of their massive size. I suppose they could put a bullet in it's brain to put it out of it's misery but guns are outlawed in China.

Like I said, millions of smaller fish suffer the same fate every day and no one cares. And that white meat inside the fish looks delicious....

Small fish have no conscious....whales, dolphins etc do.

[West-Side]

I don't know who are worse, ISIS or China?

HitandRun Reggie

[HitandRun Reggie]

Small fish have no conscious....whales, dolphins etc do.

Not a whale, not a dolphin, we're talking about a fish. A big one, but one that shows no more intelligence than the tuna fish in your sandwich.

[Mr Feeny]

Honestly, this almost makes me want to cry.
I ****ing hate humans.

I hate you too! The entire board pretty much hates you too, tbf. Do the right thing and either kill yourself as one poster has suggested already, or stop posting here. Many thanks. Don't write again, please.

[enayes]

most fisherman bash their fish on the head, effectively killing them before gutting begins

that may be difficult with a whale/fish of this size but they should kill it before slicing it open and illegally selling it

at least they didn't put their c0cks in it's mouth while slicing the mofo

[niko]

Meh

Whale is a staple part of many Asian countries diet. It's just social programming. Same thing with how they eat dog. To the western world it is disgusting, because we associate dogs as pets. You can condemn these asian countries for killing whales but on the flipside, we are butchering cattle and chicken, mass genocide, yet not many people seem to care.

Perhaps the savagery in which the whale was killed, but in the end killing something is killing something. The end result is the same. Flesh for eating!!!!
It's not a whale. It's a whale shark. It's a fish.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I thought it was kinda cool how they were cutting it up to sell while it was still wiggling around.

Doesn't get any fresher than that!!

I guess if you've never gone fishing that might be extremely disturbing. But if you've ever gutted a trout I don't think this video will shock you

[dude77]

china is ****ED UP

https://youtu.be/U9g-Mgogiok

death penalty right there, with an extended torture session beforehand .. and anyone who opposes it, gets it too .. done even discussing people like this ..

also :38 .. what a worthless piece of shit

[ekosky]

Whites and Asians are the devil!

[iamgine]

What a butterface.

[Meticode]

Animals have been killing each other while still alive for millions if not billions of years.

[9erempiree]

china is ****ED UP

https://youtu.be/U9g-Mgogiok

seriously...wtf was that.

That shit got me mad as ****.

[Norcaliblunt]

I eat oysters and clams alive.

[ArbitraryWater]

Meh.

I dont get animal protection shit like this. I mean im sure they didnt expect it to live that long.

wtf :facepalm


thats disheartening, humans can be such vile pieces of shit.

[Norcaliblunt]

Sharks be eating humans alive all the time though. Lol.

If you think this is bad, watch some videos on industrial livestock farming and butchering. HBO Real Sports had a good episode on the "Eat What You Kill" movement and it showed some clips of some crazy ****ed up shit being done to pigs.

[ArbitraryWater]

Meh

Whale is a staple part of many Asian countries diet. It's just social programming. Same thing with how they eat dog. To the western world it is disgusting, because we associate dogs as pets. You can condemn these asian countries for killing whales but on the flipside, we are butchering cattle and chicken, mass genocide, yet not many people seem to care.

Perhaps the savagery in which the whale was killed, but in the end killing something is killing something. The end result is the same. Flesh for eating!!!!

so the amount of pain (this is pure torture) is irrelevant? :facepalm


Not a joke. How far down do you want to go down on the order of life before you start worrying about it's "feelings"? Humans, primates, mammals, fish, invertebrates, plants?

#humanprivilege :facepalm

[StephHamann]

http://la8period3.pbworks.com/f/bomb%2Bapperance.jpg

f.uck asians

[9erempiree]

I am super surprised how easily that saw cut through that whale shark. Like a razor blade.

You guys have to admit, it was pretty cool.

[Kblaze8855]

I keep expectations pretty low but still...im shocked how many people think a whale shark is a whale.....

[ArbitraryWater]

I am super surprised how easily that saw cut through that whale shark. Like a razor blade.

You guys have to admit, it was pretty cool.

You just went off on Chinese for a guy kicking a 2 year old, now an animal is being cut open alive with its insides popping out on both sides and people filming and smiling at it, and its a cool thing..

[ISHGoat]

You just went off on Chinese for a guy kicking a 2 year old, now an animal is being cut open alive with its insides popping out on both sides and people filming and smiling at it, and its a cool thing..

kicking a kid like that would basically get you 20+ years over here, but chopping that fish is literally everyday business

i see nothing wrong with the whale shark being sawed, but the attack on the kid was something ridiculous

[ArbitraryWater]

kicking a kid like that would basically get you 20+ years over here, but chopping that fish is literally everyday business

i see nothing wrong with the whale shark being sawed, but the attack on the kid was something ridiculous

what if it was you? or no.. what if it was a human, dare this happen to a human.. still nothing wrong?

[ISHGoat]

what if it was you? or no.. what if it was a human, dare this happen to a human.. still nothing wrong?

animals dont put a bullet in the head of other animals before eating them, im pretty sure most animals get eaten when theyre still alive

absolutely no problems with this

humans get rekt by animals all the time, do lions wait for us to die before eating our pecs and quads?

[9erempiree]

You just went off on Chinese for a guy kicking a 2 year old, now an animal is being cut open alive with its insides popping out on both sides and people filming and smiling at it, and its a cool thing..

:facepalm

They're not the same thing bro. I don't know how you can relate the two as the such.

Yes, it's pretty cool how a saw like that goes through a whale so effortlessly.

[ihatetimthomas]

How would they have put that fish out of its misery before cutting it up? It's not like you can just whack it on the head and kill it. So yeah it looks bad it's alive but what options are there to kill it before it's cut up?

[9erempiree]

If you think about it, the Chinese did what was right. How would you kill something as big as that? Don't know what bullet would put it out of its misery. There would be a much more horrific scene if they tried to kill it first. What do you guys want? Take a machine gun to it? Spray bullets at it?

By sawing it from the back, they have kept the scene pretty clean. It looks like a big ass sushi dish rather than a slaughter house with blood and brains all over the place.

[step_back]

animals dont put a bullet in the head of other animals before eating them, im pretty sure most animals get eaten when theyre still alive

absolutely no problems with this

humans get rekt by animals all the time, do lions wait for us to die before eating our pecs and quads?

I'm going to start sawing people in half alive now. It should make the screams that much more theatrical, wouldn't you say?

P.S Halal and Kosher meat is just as barbaric. But we can't criticize those Muzzies or Jews because you know it's their divine right and they're already oppressed enough these days.

[9erempiree]

most fisherman bash their fish on the head, effectively killing them before gutting begins

that may be difficult with a whale/fish of this size but they should kill it before slicing it open and illegally selling it

at least they didn't put their c0cks in it's mouth while slicing the mofo

Lets go by your theory of most fisherman bash the head of fish before gutting them....this was a big ass whale.

The equivalent would be bringing in a wrecking ball and dropping it on its head. Do we really want a horrific scene around the area with a smashed head or do we want the slicing done cleanly, as shown in the video.

[step_back]

Lets go by your theory of most fisherman bash the head of fish before gutting them....this was a big ass whale.

The equivalent would be bringing in a wrecking ball and dropping it on its head. Do we really want a horrific scene around the area with a smashed head or do we want the slicing done cleanly, as shown in the video.

Do you actually think there would've been no blood by the end of it or something? You can't cleanly kill something, especially at that size. Have a look for an uncut version. I guarantee it will be pissing out blood. If you can watch something being dismembered into pieces ALIVE you can deal with some brains from a shotgun wound to the head.

[9erempiree]

Do you actually think there would've been no blood by the end of it or something? You can't cleanly kill something, especially at that size. Have a look for an uncut version. I guarantee it will be pissing out blood.

Blood can be washed away bro. They cut it as cleanly as they can even if there was a puddle of blood. Like I said, it looks like one big ass sushi plate.

Would you rather have a smashed whale's ahead that is barely recognizable because someone thinks it should be killed first? Whale brains smashed laying around the area? That would be a horrific scene compared to what was shown in the video.

[step_back]

Blood can be washed away bro. They cut it as cleanly as they can even if there was a puddle of blood. Like I said, it looks like one big ass sushi plate.

Would you rather have a smashed whale's ahead that is barely recognizable because someone thinks it should be killed first? Whale brains smashed laying around the area? That would be a horrific scene compared to what was shown in the video.

Yes.

I'd rather something that's living and has a complex CNS system like we do be put out of it's misery because a few people don't like sweeping up whale brains.

[SugarHill]

To the people who said they didn't mind, is it because it's a fish or that it's not human? What if it was an orca?

[9erempiree]

Yes.

I'd rather something that's living and has a complex CNS system like we do be put out of it's misery because a few people don't like sweeping up whale brains.

The fisherman already had to deal with onlookers therefore it was better by starting from the back and then dealing with the guts later. If they cut the head first and with all the guts hanging out, it would be disturbing to the public at first.

Starting from the back allowed the onlookers to embrace what was coming later. It sort of got them desensitized before the actual gutting.

The whale was very big and you want to cut it and make it as normal as possible.

Using a wrecking ball and dropping the ball on its head would be unusually gruesome to the onlookers. Just like if someone was to drive a truck over its head. Its not natural or normal.

[SugarHill]

The fisherman already had to deal with onlookers therefore it was better by starting from the back and then dealing with the guts later. If they cut the head first and with all the guts hanging out, it would be disturbing to the public at first.

Starting from the back allowed the onlookers to embrace what was coming later. It sort of got them desensitized before the actual gutting.

The whale was very big and you want to cut it and make it as normal as possible.

Using a wrecking ball and dropping the ball on its head would be unusually gruesome to the onlookers. Just like if someone was to drive a truck over its head. Its not natural or normal.
lmfao neither is being sliced in sections from the bottom up. Do you know how disturbing that is. lol @ what bystanders feel being the most paramount concern

[HitandRun Reggie]

Fish do not feel pain like humans do.

"Fish do not feel pain the way humans do, according to a team of neurobiologists, behavioral ecologists and fishery scientists. The researchers conclude that fish do not have the neuro-physiological capacity for a conscious awareness of pain."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm

I think the best humans can/should do for fish is protect those species which suffer from unsustainable harvesting and make sure that any fish killed does not go to waste, like cutting off shark fins and dumping the rest back into the sea.

If we are to treat fish like animals of higher consciousness and awareness, where should we draw the line? Invertebrates and even plants?

[step_back]

The fisherman already had to deal with onlookers therefore it was better by starting from the back and then dealing with the guts later. If they cut the head first and with all the guts hanging out, it would be disturbing to the public at first.

Starting from the back allowed the onlookers to embrace what was coming later. It sort of got them desensitized before the actual gutting.

The whale was very big and you want to cut it and make it as normal as possible.

Using a wrecking ball and dropping the ball on its head would be unusually gruesome to the onlookers. Just like if someone was to drive a truck over its head. Its not natural or normal.

And sawing something into pieces alive is?

Look, I don't give a shit about people being grossed out or in shock. If you can stand there and watch it get cut up into pieces alive then surely a bit of a mess isn't going to put you off. If it does and it bothers you don't eat/ buy it.


By the way this is china. They skin animals alive purely because it's cheaper to do so. The Chinese aren't as easily grossed out. They can handle it.

[9erempiree]

So I watched the unedited version and that is one big ass whale. I don't see anyway of killing it instantaneously. A gun or rifle would not have killed it immediately.

The fate of these big ass animals is a slow death.

[step_back]

So I watched the unedited version and that is one big ass whale. I don't see anyway of killing it instantaneously. A gun or rifle would not have killed it immediately.

The fate of these big ass animals is a slow death.

Link the unedited version for us to see.

[Bandito]

So I watched the unedited version and that is one big ass whale. I don't see anyway of killing it instantaneously. A gun or rifle would not have killed it immediately.

The fate of these big ass animals is a slow death.
Nobody would use a gun to kill that because of the bullets that will be lodged inside the animal. Most people would use a machete or a knife.

[9erempiree]

Link the unedited version for us to see.

Same shit except its the real video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwAQoB7GmO0

[warriorfan]

Fish do not feel pain like humans do.

"Fish do not feel pain the way humans do, according to a team of neurobiologists, behavioral ecologists and fishery scientists. The researchers conclude that fish do not have the neuro-physiological capacity for a conscious awareness of pain."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm

I think the best humans can/should do for fish is protect those species which suffer from unsustainable harvesting and make sure that any fish killed does not go to waste, like cutting off shark fins and dumping the rest back into the sea.

If we are to treat fish like animals of higher consciousness and awareness, where should we draw the line? Invertebrates and even plants?

Thread over

[ArbitraryWater]

animals dont put a bullet in the head of other animals before eating them, im pretty sure most animals get eaten when theyre still alive

absolutely no problems with this

humans get rekt by animals all the time, do lions wait for us to die before eating our pecs and quads?

what a horrible comparison


And sawing something into pieces alive is?

Look, I don't give a shit about people being grossed out or in shock. If you can stand there and watch it get cut up into pieces alive then surely a bit of a mess isn't going to put you off. If it does and it bothers you don't eat/ buy it.


By the way this is china. They skin animals alive purely because it's cheaper to do so. The Chinese aren't as easily grossed out. They can handle it.

ya

and more human privilege (this a thing wow) below by dresta

[Dresta]

lol @ people getting all upset over a fish. As if there isn't enough ****ed up shit done to human beings to worry and obsess about.

[ArbitraryWater]

lol @ people getting all upset over a fish. As if there isn't enough ****ed up shit done to human beings to worry and obsess about.

so this isn't a problem because we have so many other problems? :oldlol:

logical fallacy if I've ever seen one

not your style

[Dresta]

so this isn't a problem because we have so many other problems? :oldlol:

logical fallacy if I've ever seen one

not your style
No, it just isn't a problem, like the making of foie gras is not a problem, or shitty chicken, or basically using all animals as tools for human gratification (which we do, even with dogs, who we breed to fit our needs, many of them pointless and petty). Plenty of real problems out there to get fussed about without creating extra ones out of boredom and mawkishness.

There is no logical reason why a human being should care about such things: it is sentimental hysteria. I don't see why I should give a shit what Chinese people do with their fish. A logical fallacy is something like: considering masses of abortions to be a-ok, at the same time as getting upset over a fish. There couldn't be a surer sign of a species being tired of living than that. "save us from our pointless lives, oh mighty fish, BE my cause, FEED my outrage :bowdown:"

It's like the people who get all upset about animal testing: got no time for such nonsense.

[Hawker]

Christ...do people not know what the **** a whale shark even is? Not a friggin whale.

[Brujesino]

Christ...do people not know what the **** a whale shark even is? Not a friggin whale.
:oldlol: thought the same thing

[highwhey]

No, it just isn't a problem, like the making of foie gras is not a problem, or shitty chicken, or basically using all animals as tools for human gratification (which we do, even with dogs, who we breed to fit our needs, many of them pointless and petty). Plenty of real problems out there to get fussed about without creating extra ones out of boredom and mawkishness.

There is no logical reason why a human being should care about such things: it is sentimental hysteria. I don't see why I should give a shit what Chinese people do with their fish. A logical fallacy is something like: considering masses of abortions to be a-ok, at the same time as getting upset over a fish. There couldn't be a surer sign of a species being tired of living than that. "save us from our pointless lives, oh mighty fish, BE my cause, FEED my outrage :bowdown:"

It's like the people who get all upset about animal testing: got no time for such nonsense.
Dresta the problem manifesta

[step_back]

lol @ people getting all upset over a fish. As if there isn't enough ****ed up shit done to human beings to worry and obsess about.

IDGAF about people though :confusedshrug:

[niko]

No, it just isn't a problem, like the making of foie gras is not a problem, or shitty chicken, or basically using all animals as tools for human gratification (which we do, even with dogs, who we breed to fit our needs, many of them pointless and petty). Plenty of real problems out there to get fussed about without creating extra ones out of boredom and mawkishness.

There is no logical reason why a human being should care about such things: it is sentimental hysteria. I don't see why I should give a shit what Chinese people do with their fish. A logical fallacy is something like: considering masses of abortions to be a-ok, at the same time as getting upset over a fish. There couldn't be a surer sign of a species being tired of living than that. "save us from our pointless lives, oh mighty fish, BE my cause, FEED my outrage :bowdown:"

It's like the people who get all upset about animal testing: got no time for such nonsense.

Posting a sentence in a thread saying "wow this is ****ed up" doesn't qualify as hysteria. Essentially every post we ever make is hysteria about things we shouldn't care about.

[warriorfan]

No, it just isn't a problem, like the making of foie gras is not a problem, or shitty chicken, or basically using all animals as tools for human gratification (which we do, even with dogs, who we breed to fit our needs, many of them pointless and petty). Plenty of real problems out there to get fussed about without creating extra ones out of boredom and mawkishness.

There is no logical reason why a human being should care about such things: it is sentimental hysteria. I don't see why I should give a shit what Chinese people do with their fish. A logical fallacy is something like: considering masses of abortions to be a-ok, at the same time as getting upset over a fish. There couldn't be a surer sign of a species being tired of living than that. "save us from our pointless lives, oh mighty fish, BE my cause, FEED my outrage :bowdown:"

It's like the people who get all upset about animal testing: got no time for such nonsense.

what a meltdown

[ArbitraryWater]

No, it just isn't a problem, like the making of foie gras is not a problem, or shitty chicken, or basically using all animals as tools for human gratification (which we do, even with dogs, who we breed to fit our needs, many of them pointless and petty). Plenty of real problems out there to get fussed about without creating extra ones out of boredom and mawkishness.

There is no logical reason why a human being should care about such things: it is sentimental hysteria. I don't see why I should give a shit what Chinese people do with their fish. A logical fallacy is something like: considering masses of abortions to be a-ok, at the same time as getting upset over a fish. There couldn't be a surer sign of a species being tired of living than that. "save us from our pointless lives, oh mighty fish, BE my cause, FEED my outrage :bowdown:"

It's like the people who get all upset about animal testing: got no time for such nonsense.

Okay Dresta..

[step_back]

No, it just isn't a problem, like the making of foie gras is not a problem, or shitty chicken, or basically using all animals as tools for human gratification (which we do, even with dogs, who we breed to fit our needs, many of them pointless and petty). Plenty of real problems out there to get fussed about without creating extra ones out of boredom and mawkishness.

There is no logical reason why a human being should care about such things: it is sentimental hysteria. I don't see why I should give a shit what Chinese people do with their fish. A logical fallacy is something like: considering masses of abortions to be a-ok, at the same time as getting upset over a fish. There couldn't be a surer sign of a species being tired of living than that. "save us from our pointless lives, oh mighty fish, BE my cause, FEED my outrage :bowdown:"

It's like the people who get all upset about animal testing: got no time for such nonsense.

People empathize with animals, granted not with equality. People were outraged when Michael Vick was caught running a dog fighting ring but generally don't bat an eye lid when it comes to skinning animals alive for fur.

Some people have more empathy than others. It's why people get upset when they see animal abuse and why they choose to campaign against it. That's not pointless or petty. They stand up for something you don't care about, doesn't make it pointless and certainly not petty.

Thankfully, the world doesn't revolve around you and your ideas.

[Dresta]

Posting a sentence in a thread saying "wow this is ****ed up" doesn't qualify as hysteria. Essentially every post we ever make is hysteria about things we shouldn't care about.
Erm...


Honestly, this almost makes me want to cry.
I ****ing hate humans.


That's what separates serial killers and normal people, you sick ****.


Asians need to be dealt with


They are the most unethical group of people on this Earth.


You might be right but I don't see that.
If I did, I would have felt just as sick.

Just because these things happen behind close doors, doesn't make it right.
As I've said already, **** humans.


This is by far one of the worst and disturbing animal abuse videos I have ever seen. Absolutely sickening.

How can you cut up its body while it is still alive? These Chinese devils have no soul. I would feel an ounce of sympathy if I found out each and every one of those fishermen and the people in that crowd were cut up and dismembered while alive so they can feel what that animal went through. In fact I would be happy to see it. Disgusting.

Same goes for any ****** in this thread condoning this behaviour.


:roll:

And that's on the first page and a half. The comments on youtube are all in the same vein, and particularly full of idiotic racism towards the Chinese. Yes, i call that hysteria, especially when:


Fish do not feel pain like humans do.

"Fish do not feel pain the way humans do, according to a team of neurobiologists, behavioral ecologists and fishery scientists. The researchers conclude that fish do not have the neuro-physiological capacity for a conscious awareness of pain."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm



It is not people going 'damn, that ****ed up' that i was talking about, but those who were getting genuinely upset and angry about the thing. It's like you haven't even read the thread, so you clearly don't give a shit - so stop posing.

[ArbitraryWater]

People empathize with animals, granted not with equality. People were outraged when Michael Vick was caught running a dog fighting ring but generally don't bat an eye lid when it comes to skinning animals alive for fur.

Some people have more empathy than others. It's why people get upset when they see animal abuse and why they choose to campaign against it. That's not pointless or petty. They stand up for something you don't care about, doesn't make it pointless and certainly not petty.

Thankfully, the world doesn't revolve around you and your ideas.

this is pretty spot on..


It is not people going 'damn, that ****ed up' that i was talking about, but those who were getting genuinely upset and angry about the thing.

again, there's no problem in that.. some people like it was said^, have more empathy, these actions go deeper for as for others.

[Dresta]

Im with you Dresta! People crying over a fish, while at the same time supporting troops dropping bombs on houses filled with humans. They think the chickens they eat die of old age, and the people dying in the Middle East are all Jihaddis.
Exactly.

It's not that these people have 'more empathy' (you can't actually have empathy for a fish anyway, considering no human being can understand or share in fish feelings); it's that their pity is hopelessly misplaced, and riddled with hypocrisy and double standards.

Yeah, someone who writes:


These Chinese devils have no soul. I would feel an ounce of sympathy if I found out each and every one of those fishermen and the people in that crowd were cut up and dismembered while alive so they can feel what that animal went through. In fact I would be happy to see it.

is a paragon of empathetic feelings, and not just a hysterical imbecile. :rolleyes:

Not to mention that if you truly wanted to live aside from the exploitation of animals, you'd pretty much just have to kill yourself. Pretty much all our medical advances stem from the callous mistreatment of animals; if these idiots had had their way 500 years ago, we'd all still be dropping dead and writhing in agony in infancy.

[Smook B]

That shit looked like a cucumber being sliced to pieces.

[hateraid]

Watching the water spray out was fascinating

[step_back]

Exactly.

It's not that these people have 'more empathy' (you can't actually have empathy for a fish anyway, considering no human being can understand or share in fish feelings); it's that their pity is hopelessly misplaced, and riddled with hypocrisy and double standards.

Yeah, someone who writes:



is a paragon of empathetic feelings, and not just a hysterical imbecile. :rolleyes:

Not to mention that if you truly wanted to live aside from the exploitation of animals, you'd pretty much just have to kill yourself. Pretty much all our medical advances stem from the callous mistreatment of animals; if these idiots had had their way 500 years ago, we'd all still be dropping dead and writhing in agony in infancy.

Of course you can feel empathy for something other than people. Empathy is simply an understanding and feeling (Not literally) of another and what they might be going through. It's relating to something other than yourself. Perhaps you have a personality leaning towards a Psychopath instead of an Empath?

You also can't just lump all animal abuse into one category. So you either have to be totally against something or not at all? This is a really simple minded way of looking at things. No one in this thread has said they don't support or feel grateful for the advances that medical science has done for our species with animal testing. However cutting up a fish whilst still alive is unnecessary as is Kosher and halal meat and the fur industry. One is extremely beneficial and a just cause and the other is completely unnecessary.

The world isn't black and white.

[Simple Jack]

I care more about some animals being inhumanely killed than I do some humans.

[riseagainst]

jesus....

:(

[KyrieTheFuture]

Of course you can feel empathy for something other than people. Empathy is simply an understanding and feeling (Not literally) of another and what they might be going through. It's relating to something other than yourself. Perhaps you have a personality leaning towards a Psychopath instead of an Empath?

You also can't just lump all animal abuse into one category. So you either have to be totally against something or not at all? This is a really simple minded way of looking at things. No one in this thread has said they don't support or feel grateful for the advances that medical science has done for our species with animal testing. However cutting up a fish whilst still alive is unnecessary as is Kosher and halal meat and the fur industry. One is extremely beneficial and a just cause and the other is completely unnecessary.

The world isn't black and white.
I don't think you fully grasp the difference between empathy and sympathy.

Beyond that, arguments over morality have always been so funny to me. Our morals are no better than anyone else's. I am disgusted by what I've seen, but I do not expect or wish to force change on their customs. So they like to eat whale. I like to eat cow and am horrifying people across India.

[tomtucker]

Chinese devils:banghead: :banghead:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Well I'm not eating any sushi anytime soon

[step_back]

I don't think you fully grasp the difference between empathy and sympathy.

Beyond that, arguments over morality have always been so funny to me. Our morals are no better than anyone else's. I am disgusted by what I've seen, but I do not expect or wish to force change on their customs. So they like to eat whale. I like to eat cow and am horrifying people across India.

"Our morals are no better than anyone else's". This is your excuse and many others, you can certainly make an ethical stand like vegans do. It comes down to whether or not you care enough to make some changes? The majority of people don't care but let's not pretend that it's hopeless and futile so we may as well continue like we're doing.