Brandon Bass on Kobe: "he's arguably the best player in the game still"

[TheMarkMadsen]

[QUOTE]

[disel]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He's not. Its his teammate though...so what do you expect?

When healthy Kobe is still probably an elite offensive player. Potentially an all-star.

[Lensanity]

If he actually holds that opinion then the only thing I can say is that he deserves to die.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Its his teammate though...so what do you expect?


this is really obnoxious

we get threads anytime Kobe's teammates do anything that might put Kobe in a negative light, yet when they compliment him it's just excused as "oh its his teammate"

obviously Kobe isn't the best in the league, but Bass was asked where Kobe ranks currently in the league, and his answer demonstrated a tremendous amount of respect and admiration

but I guess we should get back to pretending like his teammates hate him

[FKAri]

Even old past their prime players can be just as good as they were in their prime for stretches. But after the achilles I don't think Kobe can go toe to toe with a healthy Durant or Lebron in terms of impact and dominating a game.

I hope Kobe proves me wrong. He's been in the NBA so long I can't imagine it without him.

[Akrazotile]

Damn, Bass battlin some alcohol issues apparently

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

this is really obnoxious

we get threads anytime Kobe's teammates do anything that might put Kobe in a negative light, yet when they compliment him it's just excused as "oh its his teammate"

obviously Kobe isn't the best in the league, but Bass was asked where Kobe ranks currently in the league, and his answer demonstrated a tremendous amount of respect and admiration

but I guess we should get back to pretending like his teammates hate him

Dude he's in his 19th year.

If this were Kobe coming off an injury in 2005...or even in 2010...sure. We could take these comments seriously.

I'm not hating on Kobe, just being realistic.

[ArbitraryWater]

Damn, Bass battlin some alcohol issues apparently

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Dude he's in his 19th year.

If this were Kobe coming off an injury in 2005...or even in 2010...sure. We could take these comments seriously.

I'm not hating on Kobe, just being realistic.

i just said he's obviously not the best player in the league, thats not the point

we've gone an entire summer hearing how nobody likes Kobe and everybody hates him, just funny that when his teammates say something like this nobody wants to talk about it, but when Bass says he hasn't talked to Kobe in the 2 weeks that he's been a laker we get a 10 page thread..

[FireDavidKahn]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:

OH MY GAWD!

[ekosky]

:roll:

[Nash]

:yaohappy:
Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:

[J Shuttlesworth]

unexpected lolz in this thread :lol

[Megabox!]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:
:lol :lol

[Doranku]

inb4 26/5/6 on 45% and the 8 seed :bowdown:

[sportjames23]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:


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[Smoke117]

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[HylianNightmare]

I want to believe

[NugzFan]

Do any laker fans even think he's still the best player in the game?

[Elosha]

Obviously an exaggeration, but it's basically just Bass trying to facilitate camaraderie with Kobe and acknowledging an all time great. I think it's a nice level of respect, even though it was probably just an off cuff remark. No need to make a big deal about it either way.

[outbreak]

What was he meant to say?

[AirFederer]

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[RRR3]

This is an absurd comment and it isn't "hating" to point out how stupid it is.

[bigkingsfan]

Tell me how my Bass taste.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Nice, lets hope kobe comes through!!!

[Trollsmasher]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:
:roll: :roll:

[ekosky]

And I don't get what Fat Brandon means by "still". Kobe was never the best player in league, EVER. I don't think.

[FireDavidKahn]

Nice, lets hope kobe comes through!!!
He already came for bass.

[derb2k2]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Doranku]

I don't think.

yeah we know

[triangleoffense]

People who say that are honestly just trolling..

mentally he may still be the strongest but Lebron, Curry, Durant.. all these newer generation people should have his number by now.. just frankly speaking

[STATUTORY]

not surprised, Brandon Bass has always been an astute observer of the game and a high IQ player

[Quickening]

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[JT123]

He's not. Its his teammate though...so what do you expect?

When healthy Kobe is still probably an elite offensive player. Potentially an all-star.
:whatever:
[B]Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:

[Akrazotile]

:whatever:
Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:

• 124th in field goal percentage (third-worst among qualified players)

• 103rd in 3-point percentage (fifth-worst)

• 74th in player efficiency rating

• 361st in win shares

Kobe's 0.1 win shares are the fewest of the 73 players to play at least 1,200 minutes this season


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ekosky]

[QUOTE=JT123]:whatever:
[B]Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:

[TheMarkMadsen]

[QUOTE=JT123]:whatever:
[B]Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe is easily a top 5 player if healthy.

Dude was going to lead the league in scoring last season if not for injury.

MJ
Kareem
KOBE

The rest

[iamgine]

this is really obnoxious

we get threads anytime Kobe's teammates do anything that might put Kobe in a negative light, yet when they compliment him it's just excused as "oh its his teammate"

obviously Kobe isn't the best in the league, but Bass was asked where Kobe ranks currently in the league, and his answer demonstrated a tremendous amount of respect and admiration

but I guess we should get back to pretending like his teammates hate him
Well yeah that's how it works everywhere. When your teammates praise you obviously it has no credibility. When they outed you then clearly you done messed up.

[Rocketswin2013]

Lol. This, is why I always chuckle when people mention some player saying something about this player being the best, and whatnot. Bryant also made the all-star team in 2014 and an all-defensive team in 2011. The guy is inherently overrated.

[oarabbus]

Me on Brandon Bass: "He's arguably mentally retarded"

[L8krH8tr]

everyone knows thats a joke. Lebron would back him down until his other rotator cuff tears.

[JT123]

damn looks like prime bran in the finals

funny how you diss Kobe for shooting 38% on the season in his 19th year coming off an inury

yet prime healthy bran just shot 38% in the finals

:roll: :roll:
:facepalm Bran was fighting through at least 5 injuries. Also, he shot 40 percent in the Finals, while Kobrick shot 37 percent on the season. Pretty sad that you have to outright lie in order to debate the FACTS that I presented. :oldlol:

[G0ATbe]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[ralph_i_el]

The guy had a NEGATIVE on-floor impact last year

[TheMarkMadsen]

:facepalm Bran was fighting through at least 5 injuries. Also, he shot 40 percent in the Finals, while Kobrick shot 37 percent on the season. Pretty sad that you have to outright lie in order to debate the FACTS that I presented. :oldlol:

was the AC not to his liking this year :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

19th year Kobe coming off torn achilles, broken leg = 47.7% TS

prime Lebron in the 2015 finals = 47.7% TS

that lack of efficiency that you just got done dissing Kobe for, was the exact same efficiency that Lebron was scoring with in the nba finals..

:roll: :roll:

[You Cant Ban Me]

Brandon Bass is a grown man sucking kobe's dick to get him to like him.No way he actually believes this

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[JT123]

Brandon Bass is a grown man sucking kobe's dick to get him to like him.No way he actually believes this

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/5463/raydisgusted.png
Bass just trying to butter Kobe up so he won't get thrown under the bus after one of Kobe's vintage 8/28 shooting performances. Won't work. Pau was as loyal to baldbe as anyone can be, yet baldbe still threw him under the bus every chance he got. :facepalm
Brickbe has got to be the worst teammate/leader in the history of sports

[20Four]

Bass just trying to butter Kobe up so he won't get thrown under the bus after one of Kobe's vintage 8/28 shooting performances. Won't work. Pau was as loyal to baldbe as anyone can be, yet baldbe still threw him under the bus every chance he got. :facepalm
Brickbe has got to be the worst teammate/leader in the history of sports

Dude, shouldn't you worry about moving out your parents basement? like wtf freal, you ignore my posts because you know I'm right....you're life sucks 50 year old virgin flippin burgers living rent free at his parents house....

[RidonKs]

it's official

kobe bryant is underrated on ish

[JT123]

#tryingtoohardtogetmyattention :lol

[TripleA]

Dude, shouldn't you worry about moving out your parents basement? like wtf freal, you ignore my posts because you know I'm right....you're life sucks 50 year old virgin flippin burgers living rent free at his parents house....

:lol great job dude. :applause:
Taking down the lebron family.
How you get so huge?

[20Four]

:lol great job dude. :applause:
Taking down the lebron family.
How you get so huge?

Working out and good diet....you need to eat

[Foster5k]

Dude, shouldn't you worry about moving out your parents basement? like wtf freal, you ignore my posts because you know I'm right....you're life sucks 50 year old virgin flippin burgers living rent free at his parents house....
20Four congratulations man. I heard you got promoted to Fry Master at Mickey Ds.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Anyone find it strange that 20Four and JT123 were both gone for such a long time and then popped back up at the same time? :biggums:

[funnystuff]

Seems Kobe found someone consensual this time.:oldlol:
:biggums: :roll:

[JT123]

Anyone find it strange that 20Four and JT123 were both gone for such a long time and then popped back up at the same time? :biggums:
I got banned for 4 months because I apparently hurt the feelings of some Kobe stan mod. :rolleyes: I won't say any names, but I think you can guess who it was.
Meanwhile KennethGriffin spams the board with porn gifs and is back after one week.

[20Four]

20Four congratulations man. I heard you got promoted to Fry Master at Mickey Ds.

Nah, Jt123 took that job from you since you got fired


Dont be mad because I'm a registered nurse, and you're living on mommy and daddy's money :roll: :roll:

[ShawkFactory]

Id LOVE to hear that argument

[RRR3]

Id LOVE to hear that argument
I'd love to hear an argument for him being top 50 atm.

Kobe is a legend, but he's done.

[Jameerthefear]

My burger was cold 20Four. Your bitchass needs to give me a full refund. Get off the internet.

[RRR3]

My burger was cold 20Four. Your bitchass needs to give me a full refund. Get off the internet.
How were the fries, though?

[Young X]

He was legit one of the worst players in the league last year. It was sad watching him at times. Hope he comes back strong with no major injury and has a solid season but it's hard for me to see that happening. His mentality/stubbornness and age won't allow it.

[TheMarkMadsen]

He was legit one of the worst players in the league last year. It was sad watching him at times. Hope he comes back strong with no major injury and has a solid season but it's hard for me to see that happening. His mentality/stubbornness and age won't allow it.

the worst player in the league last year put up 19 points and 17 assist in his last game

[20Four]

My burger was cold 20Four. Your bitchass needs to give me a full refund. Get off the internet.


And you wonder why your 50 years old, fat, virgin with no life...you eat McDonald's everyday wtf :no: :no:

[catch24]

He was legit one of the worst players in the league last year. It was sad watching him at times. Hope he comes back strong with no major injury and has a solid season but it's hard for me to see that happening. His mentality/stubbornness and age won't allow it.

Is this a serious post?

A guy that averaged ~24/6/6 on Wizards MJ efficiency is FAR from one of the "worst players" in the league. :oldlol:

Here are his games vs this past seasons NBA finalists:
19pts and 17ast vs Cavs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3jrOjDvCY)
44/5/4 in 3 quarters vs Dubs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-djvCdyN8)

[Jameerthefear]

How were the fries, though?
Terrible. It's like they didn't even salt them.

I'll be talking to your manager 20Four.

[dazzer87]

Brandon Bass? Kobe stan.....:roll:

[plowking]

People who say that are honestly just trolling..

mentally he may still be the strongest but Lebron, Curry, Durant.. all these newer generation people should have his number by now.. just frankly speaking

Why is Kobe mentally tougher than those players? Because he makes mean faces?

I've never witnessed anything in particular that makes Kobe more mentally tough than most. What is it that he does? How does one measure mental toughness?

If anything, Durant and Curry have shown they are more mentally tough than both Bron and Kobe. When rattled for a moment, they come back, and still play good basketball. Curry gets locked up for a few games, still puts up a great finals. Same with Durant when he got locked up. Bron gets shook out of a game, plays like trash, way below his standards in a final. Same with Kobe on several occasions.

So Durant and Curry>Bron and Kobe, if we actually have any metric to go by. Unless you have a better explanation?

[Young X]

Is this a serious post?

A guy that averaged ~24/6/6 on Wizards MJ efficiency is FAR from one of the "worst players" in the league. :oldlol:

Here are his games vs this past seasons NBA finalists:
19pts and 17ast vs Cavs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3jrOjDvCY)
44/5/4 in 3 quarters vs Dubs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-djvCdyN8)His efficiency was horrific. 47.7 TS% - 96 ORtg (both waaay below league average). He was literally using more possessions than scoring points, that's detrimental to ANY team in ANY era. That's just offense, his defense was also terrible.

He was a negative on both ends. Overall, the Lakers were -11.8 with him on the court.

You can't just look at a bunch of highlights. For every one of those great performances, there were 4-5 horrible ones.

[catch24]

His efficiency was horrific. 47.7 TS% - 96 ORtg (both waaay below league average). He was literally using more possessions than scoring points, that's detrimental to ANY team in ANY era. That's just offense, his defense was also terrible.

He was a negative on both ends. Overall, the Lakers were -11.8 with him on the court.

You can't just look at a bunch of highlights. For every one of those great performances, there were 4-5 horrible ones.

First of all, ORTG is a team stat. Same as the +/- stuff.

His averages are no worse than MJ during his Wizards years, and nobody thought dude was one of the worst players in the league. Was Kobe inefficient and a terrible defender? Yeah obviously - but ranking him with some of the worst players, including scrubs that hardly see PT, is crazy talk.

Those are full game edits, BTW. Kobe had a decent year offensively if we consider the injuries he's had to overcome.

[Legends66NBA7]

If he's playing the Raptors every night, sure.

[Hey Yo]

Even Droid isn't dumb enough to post in this thread to back Bass up on that quote.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I've never witnessed anything in particular that makes Kobe more mentally tough than most.

wow stop watching basketball

[Young X]

First of all, ORTG is a team stat. Same as the +/- stuff.

His averages are no worse than MJ during his Wizards years, and nobody thought dude was one of the worst players in the league. Was Kobe inefficient and a terrible defender? Yeah obviously - but ranking him with some of the worst players, including scrubs that hardly see PT, is crazy talk.

Those are full game edits, BTW. Kobe had a decent year offensively if we consider the injuries he's had to overcome.I used individual ORtg and Kobe was right at the bottom of the league there.

Difference with MJ is:

- His defense was nowhere as bad as Kobe's.

- '02 and '03 were more offensively depressed years than '15. MJ's numbers relative to everyone else weren't as bad as Kobe's were.

- Kobe was still more inefficient.

- MJ's team didn't start getting destroyed when he was on the floor like the Lakers did with Kobe.

You're right about Kobe not being as bad as the scrubs that hardly play. I should've said he was one of the worst starters who got significant minutes, which he was.

This isn't hate because I want to see him play well, but he was very disappointing last season. It is what is is, hopefully he's better next season.

[DonDadda59]

damn looks like prime bran in the finals

funny how you diss Kobe for shooting 38% on the season in his 19th year coming off an inury

yet prime healthy bran just shot 38% in the finals

:roll: :roll:

Can't we all agree that both Beans and LeHairline sucked last season? :confusedshrug:

Beans was legitimately one of the worst, most inefficient players in the league and Bron had another subpar finals.

Bass is either trying to suck up to Beans so he doesn't get the Charmin treatment or he's gotten his hands on that good Cali kush.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Can't we all agree that both Beans and LeHairline sucked last season? :confusedshrug:

Beans was legitimately one of the worst, most inefficient players in the league and Bron had another subpar finals.

Bass is either trying to suck up to Beans so he doesn't get the Charmin treatment or he's gotten his hands on that good Cali kush.

don't know why you're addressing me, i only posted that because he was harping on 19th year Kobe's efficiency when it was the exact same as prime Bran in last years finals..

[catch24]

I used individual ORtg and Kobe was right at the bottom of the league there.

Difference with MJ is:

- His defense was nowhere as bad as Kobe's.

- '02 and '03 were more offensively depressed years than '15. MJ's numbers relative to everyone else weren't as bad as Kobe's were.

- Kobe was still more inefficient.

- MJ's team didn't start getting destroyed when he was on the floor like the Lakers did with Kobe.

You're right about Kobe not being as bad as the scrubs that hardly play. I should've said he was one of the worst starters who got significant minutes, which he was.

This isn't hate because I want to see him play well, but he was very disappointing last season. It is what is is, hopefully he's better next season.

I appreciate you trying to have an honest discussion, but players "individual" ORtg isn't just a separate metric from the TEAM measure. Yeah its adjusted but it still includes bits of data from the team averages to get its number.

Kobe was actually a net positive (RPM) on offense.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/2

^That's what to look for if you're into advanced numbers (separate of team play).

I'll agree with the MJ stuff, because defenses were arguably at their best during that time period. Kobe was actually more efficient than 2002 Jordan was though - .477% vs .468% TS

Kobe being one of the worst starters in the league isn't something I would agree with, but I won't argue against it.

[Young X]

^ Let's just hope he's better next season and actually plays the majority of it. I miss watching him play at a high level night in and night out like he did in 2013. He obviously won't be at that level but I wanna see him play a couple more solid FULL seasons to end his career.

[catch24]

^ Let's just hope he's better next season and actually plays the majority of it. I miss watching him play at a high level night in and night out like he did in 2013. He obviously won't be at that level but I wanna see him play a couple more solid FULL seasons to end his career.

:cheers:

Last year he looked hindered and was still playing through a years rust. Didn't get a chance to REALLY prove himself because of the shoulder injury, but I think he'll be healthier this season. He should be better and more efficient all-around.

[Heavincent]

I've never witnessed anything in particular that makes Kobe more mentally tough than most.

His life as he knew it was literally in jeopardy, and yet he was still balling.

[And1AllDay]

Bass lol

[JT123]

don't know why you're addressing me, i only posted that because he was harping on 19th year Kobe's efficiency when it was the exact same as prime Bran in last years finals..
I posted a lot more than efficiency numbers. Biggest difference is the Cavs weren't constantly going on runs when Lebron went to the bench like the Lakers did all season when Kobe would sit. In fact in 6 Finals games Bron's backcourt couldn't even make a single field goal without him on the floor. :oldlol:
But yes, let's pretend that Bron's inefficiency due to injuries and fatigue is the same as Kobe LITERALLY being a net negative all last season. :hammerhead:

[You Cant Ban Me]

Brandon Bass...taking dick sucking to a whole nother level :applause:

[I<3NBA]

i wonder how many other players we could say this of when we add the qualifier "if he is healthy."

that's the thing dumb ass.

[ImKobe]

He's right based off the fact that a healthy Kobe was top 5 in MVP voting and was carrying a bunch of scrubs to the Playoffs in the West by his damn self and that an unhealthy Kobe who had played 6 games in 18 months could still put up a 30 pt triple double, hit game-winners and drop 17 assists and lock down Bran in the clutch with a torn rotator cuff...

Healthy Kobe is going to be a top 10 player in the game, like it or not. He has elite court vision, he can score from anywhere on the floor, great leader, great 1 on 1 defender.... The last 3 years he's had enough time to rest and fix whatever issues he's been having with his body, his legs should be rested. I think we'll see Kobe have a comeback year like A-Rod right now, and they both go to the same German doctor as well.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I posted a lot more than efficiency numbers.

correct you also posted win shares

2015 cavs WS/48

Kyrie .209

Kevin Love .208

Bran .173

TT .167

as we can see not only was Lebron historically inefficient in the playoffs, but he was also the 3rd best player on his team when the Cavs were healthy, and barely had more impact than Tristan Thompson for the entire playoffs

Advanced stats >>>>>

[ImKobe]

i wonder how many other players we could say this of when we add the qualifier "if he is healthy."

that's the thing dumb ass.

Kobe had three freak injuries, he was able to recover from his achilles and knee injury and still showed flashes of his old self last season, the shoulder injury was unrelated to his leg issues so he should be fine this upcoming season if he hasn't had any setbacks, so far I've only heard from his teammates that he's been working out during the summer, apparently has slimmed down a bit more to put less pressure on his legs.

[Mr Feeny]

Why is Kobe mentally tougher than those players? Because he makes mean faces?

I've never witnessed anything in particular that makes Kobe more mentally tough than most. What is it that he does? How does one measure mental toughness?

If anything, Durant and Curry have shown they are more mentally tough than both Bron and Kobe. When rattled for a moment, they come back, and still play good basketball. Curry gets locked up for a few games, still puts up a great finals. Same with Durant when he got locked up. Bron gets shook out of a game, plays like trash, way below his standards in a final. Same with Kobe on several occasions.

So Durant and Curry>Bron and Kobe, if we actually have any metric to go by. Unless you have a better explanation?

Every fanboy is going to believe that his favourite player is the toughest player mentally. Personally, I think it's Duncan who's usually as stoic as they come no matter the situation. Ditto, Curry or Dwyane Wade.
I can't imagine ANY player single handidly taking over an NBA finals series when down 2-0,and trailing by 13 points with minutes remaining in game 3.

But like i said, it's all subjective. And silly. There's no proof one way or another thay one player is mentally stronger than another.

[Bandito]

So many butthurt Lebronfags. Kobe been living rent free since the 90's. He hasn't played since 2013 for a full season and still so butthurt hes in the upper echelon of legendary players while Lebron hasn't cracked top 100.

[sdot_thadon]

Well, not really a big deal. Bass is obviously and shamelessly trying to get into Kobe's good graces. As well as simply showing respect for a legend, most role players do and have done in the past.

So kobe fans chill, he's done being the best player in the league. That ship has sailed.

Kobe haters, same. He's still a legend.

[ShawkFactory]

So many butthurt Lebronfags. Kobe been living rent free since the 90's. He hasn't played since 2013 for a full season and still so butthurt hes in the upper echelon of legendary players while Lebron hasn't cracked top 100.
Probably not since the 90s, considering they were both too young and Lebron was not a player in the NBA in the 90s.

[JT123]

So many butthurt Lebronfags. Kobe been living rent free since the 90's. He hasn't played since 2013 for a full season and still so butthurt hes in the upper echelon of legendary players while Lebron hasn't cracked top 100.
Top 100? :roll: your trolling is cringeworthy. PM me for tips

[20Four]

Top 100? :roll: your trolling is cringeworthy. PM me for tips

PM me for tips on how to move out your parents basement

[eeeeeebro]

Everyone is best player in basketball to brandon bass

[JT123]

correct you also posted win shares

2015 cavs WS/48

Kyrie .209

Kevin Love .208

Bran .173

TT .167

as we can see not only was Lebron historically inefficient in the playoffs, but he was also the 3rd best player on his team when the Cavs were healthy, and barely had more impact than Tristan Thompson for the entire playoffs

Advanced stats >>>>>
So basically 3 games. :roll:
So injured and aging Lebron shooting 42% in the playoffs = historically inefficient, but peak Kobe shooting 43% in the 2002 playoffs AGAINST SINGLE COVERAGE is supposed to be GOAT worthy? :oldlol: This is why you guys are known as Kobetards

[J Shuttlesworth]

PM me for tips on how to move out your parents basement
So you're admitting that you actually lived in your parents basement at one point? Pathetic. And you actually made a guide on getting out of it? :biggums:

[Megabox!]

Probably not since the 90s, considering they were both too young and Lebron was not a player in the NBA in the 90s.
You honestly expected him to know that? :lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

So basically 3 games. :roll:


nope Kyrie played 13 games, and I guess that we can conclude from advance stats like WS/48 that he was better than Lebron in the games he was healthy enough to play while Bran barely had more impact than TT..

in fact TT had a higher offensive WS than bran, so we can conclude that TT was more impactfull offensively than bran throughout the playoffs..

[ekosky]

PM me for tips on how to move out your parents basement
No pickles and no onions in my burger. Get on that. NOW!

[Mr. Jabbar]

brandon bass aka captain obvious

[Nick Young]

Kobe is still the best player in the game but his body can no longer go for 30 minutes a game over an 82 game season.


Honestly it would be best to rest him up regular season, then let him go 35-40 minutes a game come playoff time.


It is sad that the great Gawdbe's knees are holding him back.

[Nick Young]

So basically 3 games. :roll:
So injured and aging Lebron shooting 42% in the playoffs = historically inefficient, but peak Kobe shooting 43% in the 2002 playoffs AGAINST SINGLE COVERAGE is supposed to be GOAT worthy? :oldlol: This is why you guys are known as Kobetards
This is why Lebron Stans are retarded stat nerd number crunchers.


NBA defense in 2002 was much better than anything Lebron had to go against. Players were allowed to hand check and hold and get away with loads of contact. Now if a superstar like Lebron gets sneezed on, or grazed with the outside of a pinky he gets automatic 2 freethrows. Things that get called for flagrant 1s now was normal basketball back in 2002 and sometimes didn't even get called.


If prime Kobe were around in today's NBA he would get 30 freethrows a game easily, and could probably average 40ppg at a pretty high shooting percentage.

[branslowski]

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Who's this chick? ^^^^


Oh and if Kobe's healthy, he is arguably the BEST IN THE WORLD. Def wouldn't shoot 36% on 36fga in the finals vs 1 on 1 defense.

[RRR3]

Who's this chick? ^^^^


Oh and if Kobe's healthy, he is arguably the BEST IN THE WORLD. Def wouldn't shoot 36% on 36fga in the finals vs 1 on 1 defense.
So many things wrong with this post

[ArbitraryWater]

Who's this chick? ^^^^


Oh and if Kobe's healthy, he is arguably the BEST IN THE WORLD. Def wouldn't shoot 36% on 36fga in the finals vs 1 on 1 defense.

you're too retarded to deserve knowing the name of that girl

[RRR3]

Bran, you can get her name when you admit Kobe isn't a top player in the league anymore

[ArbitraryWater]

Bran, you can get her name when you admit Kobe isn't a top in the league anymore

this, healthy or not.. admit it, brans :coleman:

and also admit that 2011 Dirk shits on 2011 Kobe.. and, you know what, there's too many things you need to admit... nothing to save you. You're lost brans.

[SwayDizzle]

bran stans so cringe right now. when Kobe is healthy he's def elite. he can still drop 40 on the best defenses out there. Kobe is more dominant than Duncan (his closest adversary) and more handsome than Bran.

[RRR3]

bran stans so cringe right now. when Kobe is healthy he's def elite. he can still drop 40 on the best defenses out there. Kobe is more dominant than Duncan (his closest adversary) and more handsome than Bran.
He was healthy for 35 games last season, and he gave no indication he is still an elite player. Meanwhile, Duncan was still balling in the playoffs.

[T_L_P]

bran stans so cringe right now. when Kobe is healthy he's def elite. he can still drop 40 on the best defenses out there. Kobe is more dominant than Duncan (his closest adversary) and more handsome than Bran.

The last time we saw him healthy was two years ago. You are just making assumptions.

Based on the play we've seen (2014/15 Regular Seasons), Kobe isn't close to elite anymore. He's one of the worst defenders in the league and he shoots 35%. You literally don't need to say anything else (though you could).

[SwayDizzle]

The last time we saw him healthy was two years ago. You are just making assumptions.

Based on the play we've seen (2014/15 Regular Seasons), Kobe isn't close to elite anymore. He's one of the worst defenders in the league and he shoots 35%. You literally don't need to say anything else (though you could).
young legs Kobe bout to surprise you

[ShawkFactory]

If healthy, Kobe can be an elite offensive player. Maybe not top 5 or so but definitely top 10.

As an overall package? Nah, not elite anymore. At least not consistently.

[STATUTORY]

He was healthy for 35 games last season, and he gave no indication he is still an elite player. Meanwhile, Duncan was still balling in the playoffs.

he was battling shoulder injury all season long, probably cost him at least 15 points in FG%