View Full Version : after a small amount of research. LeBron and MJ are tied with each other
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:08 PM
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mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 01:10 PM
mike = more 50 & 60 point games in the playoffs
more scoring accolades. higher career average in the regular season & playoffs
jordan >>>> jordan-lite aka kobe
SouBeachTalents
08-10-2015, 01:12 PM
Lol, Kobe stans cling to that 81 point game like a needy GF. It was a legendary game, sure, but a January game against a terrible team <<<<<< a significantly better career
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:16 PM
mike = more 50 & 60 point games in the playoffs
more scoring accolades. higher career average in the regular season & playoffs
jordan >>>> jordan-lite aka kobe
scoring more 50 and 60 point games in the playoffs is redundant. ( especially the 60 point game since he LOST in double OT ).... it just means he played in a crap era where 30 win teams made the playoffs. and the bulls were built on defense when they won titles. making it possible for jordan to take his team mates out of rhythm gunning for 50... kobe had to worry about his fragile team mates that would quit if they didnt get the ball enough
and kobe has a 1.30 points per shot average aswell. jordans 4 more shots per game career average is the only reason he averages more points
and why are you so insecure all of a sudden?
:lol
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:21 PM
Lol, Kobe stans cling to that 81 point game like a needy GF. It was a legendary game, sure, but a January game against a terrible team <<<<<< a significantly better career
well... its only the most dominant performance in nba history
:coleman:
but kobe bested jordans 4 quarter high like 3-4 times anyway...
and 5-6 times he had 50+ after 3 quarters and would have destroyed mikes record then too
mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 01:22 PM
scoring more 50 and 60 point games in the playoffs is redundant. ( especially the 60 point game since he LOST in double OT ).... it just means he played in a crap era where 30 win teams made the playoffs. and the bulls were built on defense when they won titles. making it possible for jordan to take his team mates out of rhythm gunning for 50... kobe had to worry about his fragile team mates that would quit if they didnt get the ball enough
and kobe has a 1.30 points per shot average aswell. jordans 4 more shots per game career average is the only reason he averages more points
and why are you so insecure all of a sudden?
:lol
scoring more in the playoffs is all that matters.
scoring in the regular-season against teams that may or may not play their best deserves somewhat of an asterisk.
jordan has less asterisks than kobe does if we're being objective. i'm not a fan of either player, so take my word for it.
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:22 PM
scoring more in the playoffs is all that matters.
scoring in the regular-season against teams that may or may not play their best deserves somewhat of an asterisk.
jordan has less asterisks than kobe does if we're being objective. i'm not a fan of either player, so take my word for it.
no it isnt
:lol
if it was then jordan fans wouldnt constantly brag about his 30ppg all time leading scoring average
and you should be saying "scoring in the playoffs and* winning*"
because jordan lost allot of his high scoring games.
ClipperRevival
08-10-2015, 01:23 PM
I guess OP had a need to make this thread given the fact that this is like 1 of 5 things Kobe has over MJ out of like 500 possibilities. Good job OP.
well... its only the most dominant performance in nba history
:coleman:
but kobe bested jordans 4 quarter high like 3-4 times anyway...
and 5-6 times he had 50+ after 3 quarters and would have destroyed mikes record then too
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ShawkFactory
08-10-2015, 01:28 PM
Lol, Kobe stans cling to that 81 point game like a needy GF. It was a legendary game, sure, but a January game against a terrible team <<<<<< a significantly better career
It's true. What an impressive game.
Too bad Jordan's performances throughout his career against top-tier teams shit on Kobe's. Who do you want on your team in a 7 games series facing the top defense in the league in the playoffs? If anyone were to choose Kobe, they would be lowering their chances. :confusedshrug:
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:28 PM
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fake and g*y
we've debunked that 100 point game countless times on ISH
it was a fixed outcome remember? or are you new to basketball
intentionally fouling the other team the entire 4th quarter to get the ball back and have 3 times as many possessions = void
a career sh*t free throw shooter jumping over the line to hit nearly 100% of his 30+ free throws = void
no video = void
shit era = void
3ball
08-10-2015, 01:29 PM
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30 point games (Regular Season)
Michael Jordan -- 562
Wilt Chamberlain -- 515
Karl Malone -- 435
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 429
Kobe Bryant -- 408
Oscar Robertson -- 387
Jerry West -- 350
Dominque Wilkins -- 346
Allen Iverson -- 345
Elgin Baylor -- 343
Adrian Dantley -- 313
Shaquille O'Neal -- 313
Lebron James -- 304
George Gervin -- 296
Bob Pettit - 284
Alex English - 276
Elvin Hayes -- 253
40 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 271
Michael Jordan -- 173
Kobe Bryant -- 117
Elgin Baylor -- 88
Allen Iverson -- 79
Oscar Robertson -- 77
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 70
Rick Barry -- 70
George Gervin -- 68
Jerry West -- 66
Bob McAdoo -- 58
Dominique Wilkins -- 57
Shaquille O'Neal -- 49
Larry Bird -- 47
Lebron James -- 45
50 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 118
Michael Jordan -- 31
Kobe Bryant -- 24
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Rick Barry -- 13
Allen Iverson -- 11
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 10
Lebron James -- 9
Bernard King -- 8
Dominique Wilkins -- 7
Adrian Dantley -- 6
Pete Maravich -- 6
Bob Pettit -- 6
George Gervin -- 5
Jerry West -- 5
Nate Archibald -- 4
Larry Bird -- 4
Karl Malone -- 4
Moses Malone -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Bob McAdoo -- 4
George Mikan -- 4
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30 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 109
Kobe Bryant -- 88
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 75
Jerry West -- 74
Elgin Baylor -- 60
Shaquille O'Neal -- 55
Karl Malone -- 54
Lebron James -- 53
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 53
Rick Barry -- 48
Dirk Nowitzki -- 45
Larry Bird -- 43
Wilt Chamberlain -- 42
Allen Iverson -- 36
Tim Duncan -- 35
Bob Pettit -- 33
George Gervin -- 32
Dwyane Wade -- 31
40 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 38
Jerry West -- 20
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Kobe Bryant -- 13
Wilt Chamberlain -- 13
Lebron James -- 13
Shaquille O'Neal -- 12
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 11
Allen Iverson -- 10
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 9
Rick Barry -- 8
Bernard King -- 7
Dirk Nowitzki -- 7
Dwyane Wade -- 7
George Gervin -- 6
Charles Barkley -- 5
Larry Bird -- 5
John Havlicek -- 5
Bob McAdoo -- 5
Bob Pettit -- 5
Dominique Wilkins -- 5
50 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 3
Jerry West -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 1
Charles Barkley -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1
John Havlicek -- 1
Sam Jones -- 1
Eric Floyd -- 1
Ray Allen -- 1
Bob Pettit -- 1
Billy Cunningham -- 1
Bob McAdoo -- 1
Dominique Wilkins -- 1
Karl Malone -- 1
Vince Carter -- 1
Dirk Nowitzki -- 1
Kobe Bryant -- 1
Bob Cousy -- 1
Lebron James -- 0
30 ppg regular seasons
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 7
Oscar Robertson -- 6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Jerry West -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Kobe Bryant -- 3
Bob McAdoo -- 3
Adrian Dantley -- 3
Rick Barry -- 2
Lebron James -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
George Gervin -- 2
30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Lebron James -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2
---
mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 01:29 PM
no it isnt
:lol
if it was then jordan fans wouldnt constantly brag about his 30ppg all time leading scoring average
and you should be saying "scoring in the playoffs and* winning*"
because jordan lost allot of his high scoring games.
yes it does. that means jordan faced better defenses & did it against better teams/competition (1986 celtics) as well.
jordan can be argued as the GOAT volume scorer.
kobe = jordan's sidekick in that regard, hence why he's ranked at the back end of the top 10, and in some lists, out of the top 10 all together.
trust me on this.
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:31 PM
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Mad Wilt was more dominant than Kobe ever could dream of being :yaohappy:
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:34 PM
Mad Wilt was more dominant than Kobe ever could dream of being :yaohappy:
wilts game is the definition of photoshopped
are air brushed pictures reality? nope
ClipperRevival
08-10-2015, 01:36 PM
.
30 point games (Regular Season)
Michael Jordan -- 562
Wilt Chamberlain -- 515
Karl Malone -- 435
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 429
Kobe Bryant -- 408
Oscar Robertson -- 387
Jerry West -- 350
Dominque Wilkins -- 346
Allen Iverson -- 345
Elgin Baylor -- 343
Adrian Dantley -- 313
Shaquille O'Neal -- 313
Lebron James -- 304
George Gervin -- 296
Bob Pettit - 284
Alex English - 276
Elvin Hayes -- 253
40 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 271
Michael Jordan -- 173
Kobe Bryant -- 117
Elgin Baylor -- 88
Allen Iverson -- 79
Oscar Robertson -- 77
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 70
Rick Barry -- 70
George Gervin -- 68
Jerry West -- 66
Bob McAdoo -- 58
Dominique Wilkins -- 57
Shaquille O'Neal -- 49
Larry Bird -- 47
Lebron James -- 45
50 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 118
Michael Jordan -- 31
Kobe Bryant -- 24
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Rick Barry -- 13
Allen Iverson -- 11
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 10
Lebron James -- 9
Bernard King -- 8
Dominique Wilkins -- 7
Adrian Dantley -- 6
Pete Maravich -- 6
Bob Pettit -- 6
George Gervin -- 5
Jerry West -- 5
Nate Archibald -- 4
Larry Bird -- 4
Karl Malone -- 4
Moses Malone -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Bob McAdoo -- 4
George Mikan -- 4
---------------------------------------
30 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 109
Kobe Bryant -- 88
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 75
Jerry West -- 74
Elgin Baylor -- 60
Shaquille O'Neal -- 55
Karl Malone -- 54
Lebron James -- 53
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 53
Rick Barry -- 48
Dirk Nowitzki -- 45
Larry Bird -- 43
Wilt Chamberlain -- 42
Allen Iverson -- 36
Tim Duncan -- 35
Bob Pettit -- 33
George Gervin -- 32
Dwyane Wade -- 31
40 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 38
Jerry West -- 20
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Kobe Bryant -- 13
Wilt Chamberlain -- 13
Lebron James -- 13
Shaquille O'Neal -- 12
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 11
Allen Iverson -- 10
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 9
Rick Barry -- 8
Bernard King -- 7
Dirk Nowitzki -- 7
Dwyane Wade -- 7
George Gervin -- 6
Charles Barkley -- 5
Larry Bird -- 5
John Havlicek -- 5
Bob McAdoo -- 5
Bob Pettit -- 5
Dominique Wilkins -- 5
50 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 3
Jerry West -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 1
Charles Barkley -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1
John Havlicek -- 1
Sam Jones -- 1
Eric Floyd -- 1
Ray Allen -- 1
Bob Pettit -- 1
Billy Cunningham -- 1
Bob McAdoo -- 1
Dominique Wilkins -- 1
Karl Malone -- 1
Vince Carter -- 1
Dirk Nowitzki -- 1
Kobe Bryant -- 1
Bob Cousy -- 1
Lebron James -- 0
30 ppg regular seasons
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 7
Oscar Robertson -- 6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Jerry West -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Kobe Bryant -- 3
Bob McAdoo -- 3
Adrian Dantley -- 3
Rick Barry -- 2
Lebron James -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
George Gervin -- 2
30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Lebron James -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2
---
Finals scoring average:
MJ - 33.60
Kobe - 25.32
Playoffs scoring average:
MJ - 33.45
Kobe - 25.64
Regular season scoring average:
MJ - 30.10
Kobe - 25.38
DonDadda59
08-10-2015, 01:36 PM
.
30 point games (Regular Season)
Michael Jordan -- 562
Wilt Chamberlain -- 515
Karl Malone -- 435
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 429
Kobe Bryant -- 408
Oscar Robertson -- 387
Jerry West -- 350
Dominque Wilkins -- 346
Allen Iverson -- 345
Elgin Baylor -- 343
Adrian Dantley -- 313
Shaquille O'Neal -- 313
Lebron James -- 304
George Gervin -- 296
Bob Pettit - 284
Alex English - 276
Elvin Hayes -- 253
40 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 271
Michael Jordan -- 173
Kobe Bryant -- 117
Elgin Baylor -- 88
Allen Iverson -- 79
Oscar Robertson -- 77
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 70
Rick Barry -- 70
George Gervin -- 68
Jerry West -- 66
Bob McAdoo -- 58
Dominique Wilkins -- 57
Shaquille O'Neal -- 49
Larry Bird -- 47
Lebron James -- 45
50 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 118
Michael Jordan -- 31
Kobe Bryant -- 24
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Rick Barry -- 13
Allen Iverson -- 11
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 10
Lebron James -- 9
Bernard King -- 8
Dominique Wilkins -- 7
Adrian Dantley -- 6
Pete Maravich -- 6
Bob Pettit -- 6
George Gervin -- 5
Jerry West -- 5
Nate Archibald -- 4
Larry Bird -- 4
Karl Malone -- 4
Moses Malone -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Bob McAdoo -- 4
George Mikan -- 4
---------------------------------------
30 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 109
Kobe Bryant -- 88
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 75
Jerry West -- 74
Elgin Baylor -- 60
Shaquille O'Neal -- 55
Karl Malone -- 54
Lebron James -- 53
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 53
Rick Barry -- 48
Dirk Nowitzki -- 45
Larry Bird -- 43
Wilt Chamberlain -- 42
Allen Iverson -- 36
Tim Duncan -- 35
Bob Pettit -- 33
George Gervin -- 32
Dwyane Wade -- 31
40 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 38
Jerry West -- 20
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Kobe Bryant -- 13
Wilt Chamberlain -- 13
Lebron James -- 13
Shaquille O'Neal -- 12
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 11
Allen Iverson -- 10
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 9
Rick Barry -- 8
Bernard King -- 7
Dirk Nowitzki -- 7
Dwyane Wade -- 7
George Gervin -- 6
Charles Barkley -- 5
Larry Bird -- 5
John Havlicek -- 5
Bob McAdoo -- 5
Bob Pettit -- 5
Dominique Wilkins -- 5
50 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 3
Jerry West -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 1
Charles Barkley -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1
John Havlicek -- 1
Sam Jones -- 1
Eric Floyd -- 1
Ray Allen -- 1
Bob Pettit -- 1
Billy Cunningham -- 1
Bob McAdoo -- 1
Dominique Wilkins -- 1
Karl Malone -- 1
Vince Carter -- 1
Dirk Nowitzki -- 1
Kobe Bryant -- 1
Bob Cousy -- 1
Lebron James -- 0
30 ppg regular seasons
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 7
Oscar Robertson -- 6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Jerry West -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Kobe Bryant -- 3
Bob McAdoo -- 3
Adrian Dantley -- 3
Rick Barry -- 2
Lebron James -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
George Gervin -- 2
30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Lebron James -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2
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Damn Kenny... looks like you should've done more than just a small amount of research. :yaohappy:
Finals scoring average:
MJ - 33.60
Kobe - 25.32
Playoffs scoring average:
MJ - 33.45
Kobe - 25.64
Regular season scoring average:
MJ - 30.10
Kobe - 25.38
Buh buh buh... what about that one meaningless regular season game against the 2nd worst defensive team in the league following the perimeter rule changes? :confusedshrug:
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:40 PM
Damn Kenny... looks like you should've done more than just a small amount of research. :yaohappy:
Buh buh buh... what about that one meaningless regular season game against the 2nd worst defensive team in the league following the perimeter rule changes? :confusedshrug:
i aint the one whos flustered though
81 > 61 obviously hurts
walk it off
Akrazotile
08-10-2015, 01:42 PM
How many MVP's for each?
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:42 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cg6ijlpn-YQ/Uv6QNRanE6I/AAAAAAAABH8/MBCYQN0VYyY/s1600/Michael+Jordan+vs+Kobe+Bryant+%281998%29.gif
^^^ kobe can't guard mike....if his life depended on it.
its exactly why kobe could only score 50+ points in a game where he didn't want to matchup with jordan - and jordan got only a few minutes in. :oldlol:
40 y/o jordan when they DID matchup
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/3/15/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-21112-1363373474-2.gif
:biggums: :roll:
you really don't wanna bring up individual matchups...
kobe had like 50 on mike in just 2 quarters
:oldlol:
and didnt he drop 30 on MJ when he was 17 or some shit ? LOL
mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 01:42 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cg6ijlpn-YQ/Uv6QNRanE6I/AAAAAAAABH8/MBCYQN0VYyY/s1600/Michael+Jordan+vs+Kobe+Bryant+%281998%29.gif
^^^ kobe can't guard mike....if his life depended on it.
its exactly why kobe could only score 50 points in a game he REFUSED to matchup with jordan - and jordan got only a few minutes in. :oldlol:
40 y/o jordan when they DID matchup
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/3/15/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-21112-1363373474-2.gif
:biggums: :roll:
DonDadda59
08-10-2015, 01:42 PM
i aint the one whos flustered though
81 > 61 obviously hurts
walk it off
10 scoring titles vs 2... that's a 5 to 1 ratio, homie. Why are we even having this conversation? :biggums:
How many MVP's for each?
5 MVPs to 1 MVP in the regular season. 6 Finals MVPs to 2 Finals MVPs.
5 to 1 ratio in the regular season. 3 to 1 ratio in the finals.
Jordan is literally 3 to 5X the player Bean is no matter what angle you look at it from :yaohappy:
LeBron has ten 50+ games. 3ball exposed as a liar once again.
mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 01:44 PM
you really don't wanna bring up individual matchups...
kobe had like 50 on mike in just 2 quarters
:oldlol:
and didnt he drop 30 on MJ when he was 17 or some shit ? LOL
why? when they matched up against each other, 1-on-1, mike bested kobe every. single. time.
kobe didn't want to defend mj during his 50 point game, so doug collins didn't even put jordan on kobe, and he didn't play much in that game.
this is exactly why i say regular-season scoring have some asterisks attached.
jordan >>> kobe as a playoff scorer.
stop it Wilt. Stop being better than my beloved lord godbe.
:yaohappy:
tpols
08-10-2015, 01:48 PM
For Bron and Jordan fans there's no shame in being second or third best.. that means they were better than 99.9% of players to ever live!
Gilbert Arenas>peak Kobe. Dropped 60 on Bean, including a record for points in OT.
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 01:54 PM
why? when they matched up against each other, 1-on-1, jordan bested kobe every. single. time.
kobe didn't want to defend mike during his 50 point game, so doug collins didn't even put jordan on kobe, and he didn't play much in that game.
this is exactly why i say regular-season scoring have some asterisks attached.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
kobe 5 wins
mike 3 wins
kobe = 23/5/4 on 47% fg's, 55% threes ( high game = 55 points )
mike = 24/4/3 on 43% fgs, 30% threes ( high game = 36 points )
19 year old kobe = 33 points on jordan in 1997-98 ( jordans MVP season )
:lol
kobe = triple double on jordan ( 23/11/15 )
:biggums:
keep tellin lies brah
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http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2621915/kobe-fade-on-jordan-o.gif
https://www.lovethisgif.com/uploaded_images/3979-Kobe-Passes-Jordan-Literally-And-Physically.gif?1
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
kobe 5 wins
mike 3 wins
kobe = 23/5/4 on 47% fg's, 55% threes ( high game = 55 points )
mike = 24/4/3 on 43% fgs, 30% threes ( high game = 36 points )
19 year old kobe = 33 points on jordan in 1997-98 ( jordans MVP season )
:lol
kobe = triple double on jordan ( 23/11/15 )
:biggums:
keep tellin lies brah
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/3/15/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13633-1363373844-0.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2621915/kobe-fade-on-jordan-o.gif
https://www.lovethisgif.com/uploaded_images/3979-Kobe-Passes-Jordan-Literally-And-Physically.gif?1
Kobe averaged 22.8/4.4/3.9 on 46.6%, which Kenny rounds to 23/5 (lol 4.4 rounding to 5)/4 on 47%
Grandpa Jordan averaged 24.5/4.3/3.6 on 43.6% which Kenny somehow rounds to 24/4/3 on 43% :hammerhead:
Stop making up lies you ****.
Furthermore, literally half of those games came when Jordan was on the Wizards. LOL @ using those to argue anything.
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 02:04 PM
Kobe averaged 22.8/4.4/3.9 on 46.6%, which Kenny rounds to 23/5 (lol 4.4 rounding to 5)/4 on 47%
Grandpa Jordan averaged 24.5/4.3/3.6 on 43.6% which Kenny somehow rounds to 24/4/3 on 43% :hammerhead:
Stop making up lies you ****.
Furthermore, literally half of those games came when Jordan was on the Wizards. LOL @ using those to argue anything.
kobes 47% and 55% ( to jordans 43% and 30% ) with a better win%, game high, and more rebounds/assists/blocks
more than makes up for jordans 1.7 more points per game
sorry i rounded it down to 1 more point
oh no... its 1.7
that makes up for everything jordan ate from kobes asshole
https://i.imgur.com/8dZZTx6.gif
kobes 47% and 55% ( to jordans 43% and 30% ) with a better win%, game high, and more rebounds/assists/blocks
more than makes up for jordans 1.7 more points per game
sorry i rounded it down to 1 more point
oh no... its 1.7
that makes up for everything jordan ate from kobes asshole
https://i.imgur.com/8dZZTx6.gif
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/f784f30cbdeab74df66e0bbc1755d4b5.jpg
ShawkFactory
08-10-2015, 02:07 PM
kobes 47% and 55% ( to jordans 43% and 30% ) with a better win%, game high, and more rebounds/assists/blocks
more than makes up for jordans 1.7 more points per game
sorry i rounded it down to 1 more point
oh no... its 1.7
that makes up for everything jordan ate from kobes asshole
https://i.imgur.com/8dZZTx6.gif
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01
kennethgriffin
08-10-2015, 02:09 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/f784f30cbdeab74df66e0bbc1755d4b5.jpg
jordan and kobe actually matched up most of their games
kobe and lebron rarely defended each other since lebrons 6-9, 260 pounds and is a natural power forward
i think kobe and bron might have had like 5 instances where they took each other... on kobes fade to win the game. and the fading rainbow shot. the 2 point shot lebron hit to go up 3 points at the end. the time kobe took lebron the full length of the court and stripped him on the baseline
these are literally the only times i remember them playing each other
http://www.strangefarmer.com/images/content/192006.gif
He mad. LeBron owns your boy head to head :biggums:
mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 02:16 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
kobe 5 wins
mike 3 wins
kobe = 23/5/4 on 47% fg's, 55% threes ( high game = 55 points )
mike = 24/4/3 on 43% fgs, 30% threes ( high game = 36 points )
19 year old kobe = 33 points on jordan in 1997-98 ( jordans MVP season )
:lol
kobe = triple double on jordan ( 23/11/15 )
:biggums:
keep tellin lies brah
includes the 2003 game, where jordan didn't get much playing time
in 1997 and 1998, when both were athletic enough, jordan bested kobe statistically - in all of their matchups.
kobe's 55 point game skewed the stats. he didn't want to defend jordan, so jordan just played through the motions.
neither player defended each other like in previous games
i remember reading in an insider article, that kobe was nervous before tip-off, and really wanted to outplay mike, but that he wanted no part in defending him because of the game they previously matched up in.
if kobe actually defended jordan, this is what would've happened.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/3/15/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-21112-1363373474-2.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-10-2015/Zf2YMF.gif
a few months away from retiring - and he destroyed kobe in his peak :oldlol:
DonDadda59
08-10-2015, 02:20 PM
a few months away from retiring - and he destroyed kobe in his peak :oldlol:
35 year old MJ TOYED (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-LCvIFjjAA) with a young, athletic Bean. The poor kid had absolutely no idea how to deal with the old man. Got a one day PHD course in post play. Even the Diesel couldn't bail him out there. :(
Dr Hawk
08-10-2015, 02:24 PM
Another small research:
Total Playoff points:
Jordan: 5987 points in 179 games and 7474 minutes played
Kobe: 5640 points in 220 games and 8641 minutes played
LeBron: 5020 points in 178 games and 7561 minutes played
Ouch!
mehyaM24
08-10-2015, 02:26 PM
35 year old MJ TOYED (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-LCvIFjjAA) with a young, athletic Bean. The poor kid had absolutely no idea how to deal with the old man. Got a one day PHD course in post play. Even the Diesel couldn't bail him out there. :(
:yaohappy:
isn't it amazing that when kobe & out-of-prime jordan decide to defend one another, even a 40 year old MJ gets the best of him?
reminds me of this gif
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ppela1.gif
DonDadda59
08-10-2015, 02:34 PM
reminds me of this gif
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ppela1.gif
:lebronamazed:
That's my gif :banana:
Poor Bean. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
But he did score a lot of points against the second worst (might have been THE worst at the time) defense in the league on a random January night that one time. So yeah, that's like... just as good. :confusedshrug:
Heavincent
08-10-2015, 03:17 PM
Does Kobe have the most 45/10 playoff games of anybody ever?
SugarHill
08-10-2015, 03:32 PM
:lebronamazed:
That's my gif :banana:
Poor Bean. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
But he did score a lot of points against the second worst (might have been THE worst at the time) defense in the league on a random January night that one time. So yeah, that's like... just as good. :confusedshrug:
all things considered, Raps were the worst defense in the league. second worst defensive rating and best effective field goal percentage by opposing team on their defense
TheMarkMadsen
08-10-2015, 03:41 PM
all things considered, Raps were the worst defense in the league. second worst defensive rating and best effective field goal percentage by opposing team on their defense
Raptors gave up four 40+ point game to opposing players all season..
compare that to teams like Miami that same year who gave up 8..
and also..
he put up 62 in 3 quarters against the WC champs weeks before this.. and could have easily of scored 80+ against them
sooooooo yeah :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2015, 03:48 PM
Kobe looking like a midget when compared to MJ. What's new?
And, 3ball with another ether. I got you when rep comes back, playuh.
:cheers:
SugarHill
08-10-2015, 03:51 PM
Does Kobe have the most 45/10 playoff games of anybody ever?
I think he has 3.
lebron was a rebound away from having 3.
jordan flirted with a bunch of 45+ triple doubles and only has 2 45/10 games I think
Kobe might have the most :applause:
smoovegittar
08-10-2015, 05:26 PM
After a small amount of salvia, you come up with these posts. :sleeping
I think he has 3.
lebron was a rebound away from having 3.
jordan flirted with a bunch of 45+ triple doubles and only has 2 45/10 games I think
Kobe might have the most :applause:
Wilt
Spurs m8
08-10-2015, 08:15 PM
Imagine going public that you think Kobe or LeBron are better than MJ.
How embarrassing.
kennethgriffin
08-11-2015, 12:18 AM
Imagine going public that you think Kobe or LeBron are better than MJ.
How embarrassing.
Jordan didnt feel embarrassed
3ball
08-11-2015, 12:28 AM
For reference
Playoffs Thru Age 30:
Jordan: 34.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 6.6 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BLK, 25.4 FGA, 50.1 FG%, 29.6 PER, 0.258 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48
Finals Thru Age 30:
Jordan: 36.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 7.9 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.76 BPG, 52.6% FG, 40.7% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT
Career Playoff Averages:
Jordan: 33.4 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 25.1 FGA, 48.7 FG%, 28.6 PER, 0.255 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48
Career Finals Averages:
Jordan: 33.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.65 BPG, 48.1% FG, 36.8% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT
Source: basketball-reference.com
4th Quarter Scoring:
MJ 1997 Playoffs: 9.6
MJ 1998 Playoffs (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4): 9.0
MJ 1993 Finals: 10.7
MJ 1997 Finals: 10.4
MJ 1998 Finals: 10.3
FYI: MJ 1988 Regular Season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380784): 12.1
Lebron 2013 Playoffs: 7.4
Lebron 2014 Playoffs: 5.8
Lebron 2015 Playoffs: 8.1
Lebron 2011 Finals: 2.2
Lebron 2014 Finals: 3.6
Lebron 2015 Finals: 10.1**
** 30% FG in 4th quarter, including zero points in 4th quarter of critical Game 4, with opportunity to take 3-1 series lead (only 20 points total in game)
305Baller
08-11-2015, 12:29 AM
Nice research.
Megabox!
08-11-2015, 12:56 AM
For reference
Playoffs Thru Age 30:
Jordan: 34.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 6.6 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.0 BLK, 25.4 FGA, 50.1 FG%, 29.6 PER, 0.258 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48
Finals Thru Age 30:
Jordan: 36.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 7.9 APG, 2.0 SPG, 0.76 BPG, 52.6% FG, 40.7% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT
Career Playoff Averages:
Jordan: 33.4 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.1 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 25.1 FGA, 48.7 FG%, 28.6 PER, 0.255 WS/48
Lebron: 28.2 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BLK, 20.8 FGA, 47.3 FG%, 27.4 PER, 0.234 WS/48
Career Finals Averages:
Jordan: 33.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.65 BPG, 48.1% FG, 36.8% 3 PT
Lebron: 26.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.54 BPG, 44.6 FG%, 31.9% 3 PT
Source: basketball-reference.com
4th Quarter Scoring:
MJ 1997 Playoffs: 9.6
MJ 1998 Playoffs (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4): 9.0
MJ 1993 Finals: 10.7
MJ 1997 Finals: 10.4
MJ 1998 Finals: 10.3
FYI: MJ 1988 Regular Season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380784): 12.1
Lebron 2013 Playoffs: 7.4
Lebron 2014 Playoffs: 5.8
Lebron 2015 Playoffs: 8.1
Lebron 2011 Finals: 2.2
Lebron 2014 Finals: 3.6
Lebron 2015 Finals: 10.1**
** 30% FG in 4th quarter, including zero points in 4th quarter of critical Game 4, with opportunity to take 3-1 series lead (only 20 points total in game)
Saddest troll ever
ShawkFactory
08-11-2015, 01:01 AM
Saddest troll ever
I wish there was a way to see how many hours each poster has spent on this site.
And I wish there was a way to see how many basketball related files that are used solely to troll that each poster has.
3ball would lap the field in both :lol
sportjames23
08-11-2015, 01:02 AM
Jordan didnt feel embarrassed
MJ never said Kobe or Lebron were better than he was.
kennethgriffin
08-11-2015, 10:28 AM
MJ never said Kobe or Lebron were better than he was.
if you say someone will beat you. that means theyre better
if you say someone will beat you. that means theyre better
Not true in this case. J.R. Smith probably beats Mike Conley one-on-one. But Conley>>>
kennethgriffin
08-11-2015, 10:43 AM
Not true in this case. J.R. Smith probably beats Mike Conley one-on-one. But Conley>>>
if mike conleys game was part time 1 on 1 isolation basketball then it would be true and jr smith would be the better basketball player
you cant use a high volume playmaking PG as the comparison
only another role player 1 on 1 SG would make sense
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