ISIS beheads Croatian. How many nations to go before they piss off the entire world?

[HitandRun Reggie]

And why behead a Croatian if they are making demands to the Egyptians? To terrify foreign workers from living in Egypt?

May be NSFW, photo shows beheading.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/new-isis-islamic-state-video-beheading-beheads-tomislav-salopek-beheaded-wilayat-sinai-egypt-uncensored-youtube-video-pictures-screengrabs-screenshots-stills-photos/

[fiddy]

Poor fellow, got 2 young kids, RIP
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3c_1439387042 NSFW

[Patrick Chewing]

Republicans should slaughter Democrats on the ISIS debate. So far, The Donald is the only one to say he would put boots on the ground to defeat ISIS.


ISIS is so beatable right now it's not even funny. These Muslim goat-****ers have pea-sized brains. All they know in life is which way the wind carries the sand. The more we wait, the bigger they get. They just blew up like 12 guys just a couple of days ago.

[fiddy]

Republicans should slaughter Democrats on the ISIS debate. So far, The Donald is the only one to say he would put boots on the ground to defeat ISIS.


ISIS is so beatable right now it's not even funny. These Muslim goat-****ers have pea-sized brains. All they know in life is which way the wind carries the sand. The more we wait, the bigger they get. They just blew up like 12 guys just a couple of days ago.
So, you suggest invading Syria, which is an ally of Russia?

[brownmamba00]

Republicans should slaughter Democrats on the ISIS debate. So far, The Donald is the only one to say he would put boots on the ground to defeat ISIS.


ISIS is so beatable right now it's not even funny. These Muslim goat-****ers have pea-sized brains. All they know in life is which way the wind carries the sand. The more we wait, the bigger they get. They just blew up like 12 guys just a couple of days ago.
goddamn this is some ignorant shit right here

[West-Side]

Poor fellow, got 2 young kids, RIP
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3c_1439387042 NSFW
C'mon Putin just nuke these assholes already. :mad:

[navy]

Republicans should slaughter Democrats on the ISIS debate. So far, The Donald is the only one to say he would put boots on the ground to defeat ISIS.


ISIS is so beatable right now it's not even funny. These Muslim goat-****ers have pea-sized brains. All they know in life is which way the wind carries the sand. The more we wait, the bigger they get. They just blew up like 12 guys just a couple of days ago.
Delusions. The United states cant defeat terrorist groups like isis because they can simply put their guns down and blend in with the population. As more troops are sent over more people join the cause. Creating an endless occupation.

This isnt like ww1 or 2 where we were after government surrender. If it was, we would have ended the war in a fvckin day. The real problem bush had when he started iraq and afghanistan. No endgame in sight. Had there been one those wars would have been justified in history and even praised. The US military is strong enough to wipe these suckers out.


A mindset change is needed. Donald trump cant defeat isis. Only Muslims can.

[StephHamann]

A mindset change is needed. Donald trump can defeat isis.

:applause:

[navy]

:applause:
:facepalm

[Patrick Chewing]

goddamn this is some ignorant shit right here


I just insulted the enemy (ISIS) and you say that's some ignorant shit?? WTF is wrong with you??

[Patrick Chewing]

A mindset change is needed. Donald trump cant defeat isis. Only Muslims can.


This is probably 200 years down the road and maybe sooner. But in the meantime, ISIS needs to be destroyed. The only way you can change radical Islam is from within. On that we agree. I watched a video the other day of some Imam in some Arab country preaching to these kids no older than 6 or 7 years of age about how they must die for the good of Allah and how Israel is bad and all this crazy shit. That's the problem. The indoctrination is out of control. All these terrorists are zombies who have been brainwashed since an early age. The Imams and the mosques have to much power and sway over the people.

[RidonKs]

if anything is gonna break the camel's back, it wont be croatia. :lol people vacation there, they don't make friends with the locals. if we're looking for heavy straw, my guesswork begins in ethiopia, spain, egypt, india, chile, australia, italy. these are the countries that matter most to the conflict. there are many facets and one shouldn't overlook them. i hestitate to suggest turkey will have anything to do with an about face. but as for the crucial flip flop? we look no further than my very own stephen harper. he gets re-elected with a majority, the next president of the united states is a republican. he gets the boot and the next president of the united states is probably bernie sanders. which means more obama-style hestitation and posturing and maintaining appearance of aggression while killing only like a few dozen people a month which is a good month on average so props to mr. obama.

[HitandRun Reggie]

This is probably 200 years down the road and maybe sooner. But in the meantime, ISIS needs to be destroyed.

Like it has been pointed out many times here, they are nearly impossible to irradiate with our current rules of engagement. Call it cowardice or self preservation, they stuff away that flag they are so proud of and hide among the innocents. And even if we can pick away at them, the anti-US media says their corpses are those of the non-combatants. Without uniforms it's difficult to prove otherwise.

In a way it is all of the nations fault that harbor terrorists. For every good middle easterner willing to stand up to tyranny, there are 10 evil or apathetic ones. We really should stay out of middle east affairs, but if our citizens are somehow directly affected, we should attack without discrimination taking out all terrorists and the people around them. If the people suffer more from attacks by the western world than they do from ISIS, then maybe they'll stand up and address what's bringing down the ire of the western world upon them. At the end of the day we should have a "better them than us" mentality. But our nation does not have the stomach to effectively and realistically deal with bad guys in the ME.

[imdaman99]

For every good middle easterner willing to stand up to tyranny, there are 10 evil or apathetic ones.
Sounds legit. If I wanted made up skewed statistics, I'd tune into Fox News :lol

[FKAri]

lol @ thinking Putin is going to help the US to bring down ISIS. Putin is a gangster himself.

[navy]

Sounds legit. If I wanted made up skewed statistics, I'd tune into Fox News :lol
The statistic is made up, but there is some truth. There are far too many terrorist sympathizers and those converting to follow terrorist brothers.

ISIS(radicalism) cant win if the good citizens unite against them and their cancerous teachings.

[Dresta]

lol @ thinking Putin is going to help the US to bring down ISIS. Putin is a gangster himself.
What does 'being a gangster' have to do with anything? Putin obviously has a concern over the rising Islamist menace, and tbh, is far more sensible and realistic in dealing with it than the Americans, who fund and train them. Russia has a long experience with this in Chechnya and Dagestan.

In fact, part of the increasing polarisation between America and Russia came from the fact that Russia would not withdraw support for Assad, who America wanted to topple. If the Americans had listened to him, the whole region would be far better off. He even wrote an op-ed column in the NYT about it :oldlol::

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?hp&_r=2&


Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world.

Mercenaries from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all.

...

It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”

But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.

No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.

The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.

:confusedshrug:

[fiddy]

In fact, part of the increasing polarisation between America and Russia came from the fact that Russia would not withdraw support for Assad, who America wanted to topple. If the Americans had listened to him, the whole region would be far better off. He even wrote an op-ed column in the NYT about it :oldlol::

:confusedshrug:
Ofc they knew about wold happen in Syria, they knew whats going to happen in Iraq when Saddam was gone, the U.S. is deliberately trying to destabilize the region

[KevinNYC]

Ofc they knew about wold happen in Syria, they knew whats going to happen in Iraq when Saddam was gone, the U.S. is deliberately trying to destabilize the region

So the US started the Syrian Civil War?

[Lebron23]

US and their Allies can stop ISIS if they are really serious in beating them, but some of them are probably selling weapons to them.

[NumberSix]

US and their Allies can stop ISIS if they are really serious in beating them, but some of them are probably selling weapons to them.
Well, yeah. Of course. The United States completely smashed the Iraqi Republican Guard in like 13 days.

[navy]

US and their Allies can stop ISIS if they are really serious in beating them, but some of them are probably selling weapons to them.

Well, yeah. Of course. The United States completely smashed the Iraqi Republican Guard in like 13 days.
No. ISIS is nothing like the Iraqi Republican Guard. Defeating governments is easy for the United States if they really want someone gone they can kill them or make them go into hiding. Which is why the United States easily defeated Sadaam and the Iraqi guard and yet the Iraq war never ended.

ISIS and other terrorist groups are easy to kill, but you cant defeat them because they can simply put their guns down and wait for the troops to leave or just blend in with the citizens of the country. There is nothing to distinguish them. The more you kill the more people that sympathize with their cause even if it is really against their interest.

Nobody has come up with a real plan to defeat isis and the other terrorist groups for good. Not even journalist and middle east experts. That defeat has to come from education and a rejection of radicalism.

[fiddy]

So the US started the Syrian Civil War?
U.S.'s irresponsible and reckless policy in the region definitely contributed.

[RidonKs]

if isis beheaded conan or letterman or jon stewart, would america immediately declare war?

[Dresta]

So the US started the Syrian Civil War?
Err.. pretty much: if external powers had not been meddling then Assad would have put down this uprising as easily as his father had put down the one in 1982.

The Western (US led) crusade against Assad is the single largest factor in making Syria into an unliveable warzone.

[NumberSix]

Err.. pretty much: if external powers had not been meddling then Assad would have put down this uprising as easily as his father had put down the one in 1982.

The Western (US led) crusade against Assad is the single largest factor in making Syria into an unliveable warzone.
Obama somehow always ends up being on the side that leads to jihadists taking over. Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, making retarded deals with Iran, was pissed off when the Egyptian military ousted the muslim brotherhood.

[BigNBAfan]

Republicans should slaughter Democrats on the ISIS debate. So far, The Donald is the only one to say he would put boots on the ground to defeat ISIS.


ISIS is so beatable right now it's not even funny. These Muslim goat-****ers have pea-sized brains. All they know in life is which way the wind carries the sand. The more we wait, the bigger they get. They just blew up like 12 guys just a couple of days ago.

I share dislike for the ME, but realistically who gives a fck. Let them do their thing over there. If Russia wants them as an ally, let it be... how on earth can they possibly help? If anything, it's a liability for them.

Problem is if you go out there and kill 4-5000 people, family runs deep and big there. You will have 20,000 people disliking the US who have been hurt on a personal level.

That means more shit for everyone.

IMO, stay the **** out. GL with life, leave everyone alone and we'll do the same for you.

Cut off any immigration, no coming in, going out is fine. If caught in the US or any country illegally we put a chain on you and you do manuel labor of making a rock wall along the border.

[TheMan]

If we didn't need that ME oil so much, we could all just ignore those fcks and let them tear eacjh other apart without giving the tiniest of fvcks

We need other sources of energy to render them irrelevant. Only reason we care about that area is what lies underneath their feet.

[NumberSix]

If we didn't need that ME oil so much, we could all just ignore those fcks and let them tear eacjh other apart without giving the tiniest of fvcks

We need other sources of energy to render them irrelevant. Only reason we care about that area is what lies underneath their feet.
America actually doesn't need middle eastern oil though. Canada has almost as much oil as Saudi Arabia, but of course, Obama and the left are deadest against Canadian oil because, you know..... :confusedshrug:

[ace23]

Did he die?

[I<3NBA]

you can't kill an idea. only an idea can kill another idea.

[fiddy]

Did he die?
Nah, its just a scratch