This is what the Black Community is complaining about

[97 bulls]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/massachusetts-man-assaulted-7-officers-traffic-stop-article-1.2321921

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh4nBbgXfeqhaq2vFb

Two situations (I assume recent) that show the police subdue two white males without resorting to lethal force. One was armed, the other assaulted seven officers apparently even knocking one out.

[Akrazotile]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/massachusetts-man-assaulted-7-officers-traffic-stop-article-1.2321921

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh4nBbgXfeqhaq2vFb

Two situations (I assume recent) that show the police subdue two white males without resorting to lethal force. One was armed, the other assaulted seven officers apparently even knocking one out.


There are tons of situations like this involving black folks that get resolved without fatality as well :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You really think every black person who's been arrested this year was shot and killed? Tons have been subdued without lethal force, it just doesn't make headlines.

And conversely, there was just an unarmed white kid in SC that was shot dead by an officer.

There is no uniformity of these circumstances. They're all different, INCLUDING THE OFFICERS. People act like its some policy to shoot blacks who are being arrested. Literally thousands of blacks are arrested every year without incident. Just because among these thousands, there are a handful of individual situations that go wrong, doesn't really mean.... anything.

[97 bulls]

There are tons of situations like this involving black folks that get resolved without fatality as well :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You really think every black person who's been arrested this year was shot and killed? Tons have been subdued without lethal force, it just doesn't make headlines.

And conversely, there was just an unarmed white kid in SC that was shot dead by an officer.

There is no uniformity of these circumstances. They're all different, INCLUDING THE OFFICERS. People act like its some policy to shoot blacks who are being arrested. Literally thousands of blacks are arrested every year without incident. Just because among these thousands, there are a handful of individual situations that go wrong, doesn't really mean.... anything.
No. But I do know the tolerance level of a black suspect is a lot lower than it is for a white suspect. Video after video shows such. What happened to that white teen is unfortunate. But its an anomaly.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Poor black people. I am so sorry.

[TripleA]

Poor black people. I am so sorry.

Thanks Dude.:cheers:

[HitandRun Reggie]

Rodney King survived didn't he? :confusedshrug: But they still tried to burn the city down. :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

It's really quite easy to explain this and please don't say I am a racist.

Black music has an influence on what has been happening. A lot of these guys try to follow in the footsteps of their favorite rapper. Black people have been rapping and singing about how much of a thug they are, shooting police and slapping hoes.

Regardless of skin, if you rap about these things, then they are going to take you very seriously.

You can say what about the Blacks that don't listen to rap or dress like thugs/rappers....well, those guys more often than not get off.

Presentation is everything.

Pick your poison....are Blacks a bunch of wankster studio gangsters?....Or you are that tough about your stance of F the Police. Can't have your cake and eat it.

[Akrazotile]

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It's really quite easy to explain this and please don't say I am a racist.

Black music has an influence on what has been happening. A lot of these guys try to follow in the footsteps of their favorite rapper. Black people have been rapping and singing about how much of a thug they are, shooting police and slapping hoes.

Regardless of skin, if you rap about these things, then they are going to take you very seriously.

You can say what about the Blacks that don't listen to rap or dress like thugs/rappers....well, those guys more often than not get off.

Presentation is everything.

Pick your poison....are Blacks a bunch of wankster studio gangsters?....Or you are that tough about your stance of F the Police. Can't have your cake and eat it.


Well crime stats were still terrible in a lot of these cities before gangsta rap originated. Also there aint a lot of gangsta rap in Africa - but theres a hell of a lot of violence. Same thing in Mexico of wherever. Cartel members listen to like mariachi n shit. It is possible that the culture of popular music can exacerbate the problem, but it doesnt cause it.

[NumberSix]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/massachusetts-man-assaulted-7-officers-traffic-stop-article-1.2321921

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh4nBbgXfeqhaq2vFb

Two situations (I assume recent) that show the police subdue two white males without resorting to lethal force. One was armed, the other assaulted seven officers apparently even knocking one out.
Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means? :confusedshrug:

[RidonKs]

$10 says the black people in dayton ohio don't give two fks about this

[9erempiree]

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Well crime stats were still terrible in a lot of these cities before gangsta rap originated. Also there aint a lot of gangsta rap in Africa - but theres a hell of a lot of violence. Same thing in Mexico of wherever. Cartel members listen to like mariachi n shit. It is possible that the culture of popular music can exacerbate the problem, but it doesnt cause it.

You're right to an extent but I think the bigger issue is very deep and people have to get out of 'the mentality'.

The mentality is this....Blacks are going to be aggressive towards an officer because he/she may think the police is after them because they are Black. Police officers are also thinking the same thing too....they have to watch their back because the Black guy may attack or kill him because he sees that I am white and I could be a racist. Therefore, both persons are going to act overly aggressive which usually leads to something fatal.

...because of all the attention on police officers....I am afraid the police will do the opposite from now on. If they see a Black person they are not going to pull them over or arrest them. Just not worth it because you either end up pulling over a murderer and get killed -or- pull someone over and get accused of being racist.

[97 bulls]

Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means? :confusedshrug:
Yes and this isnt it. It's my understanding that some of you feel that the short trigger police tend to have effects everyone. This just isn't true. We see this case after case after case. Vid after vid after vid.

[You Cant Ban Me]

Poor black people. I am so sorry.
we dont want your sympathy you stupid fakkit we the cops to act right u stupid white sack of fly infested dog feces

[97 bulls]

Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means? :confusedshrug:
Why should they. In both instances, the officers showed tremendous restraint.

[97 bulls]

Rodney King survived didn't he? :confusedshrug: But they still tried to burn the city down. :oldlol:
We've been down this road. The police were caught beating a handcuffed man on video and they were let go.

And that incident happened shortly after a teenage girl was shot in the back. And the woman got probation if I remember correctly. And agin the incident was caught on video

[NumberSix]

We've been down this road. The police were caught beating a handcuffed man on video and they were let go.

And that incident happened shortly after a teenage girl was shot in the back. And the woman got probation if I remember correctly. And agin the incident was caught on video
You mean the girl who was shot by a Korean store clerk? What the hell does that have to do with anything?

[Godzuki]

We've been down this road. The police were caught beating a handcuffed man on video and they were let go.

And that incident happened shortly after a teenage girl was shot in the back. And the woman got probation if I remember correctly. And agin the incident was caught on video


what about owning up to when black people kill, rob, and assault azn, arab, and whities? happens all the time...but of course u only want to talk about when it happens to blacks.

what about when blacks burn down azn, arab, and whitie business's and leave the black ones alone?

why don't u ever own up to YOUR racism? :coleman:

u should join BLACK LIVES MATTER, you'd fit right in. i heard lame ass Bernie Sanders is pandering to them racists and hiring from the group that hijacked his rally. what a bitch ass candidate :facepalm

[West-Side]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/massachusetts-man-assaulted-7-officers-traffic-stop-article-1.2321921

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh4nBbgXfeqhaq2vFb

Two situations (I assume recent) that show the police subdue two white males without resorting to lethal force. One was armed, the other assaulted seven officers apparently even knocking one out.

There's like 100,000+ police altercations in U.S. a day.
The black community just LOVES to pick and choose their cases.

It's the most annoying thing ever actually. I have seen and read countless of policy killings of white people yet not a single **** is given by the media. No one bats an eye. Yet every wrong doing by the cops involving black people is on CNN for the next 3 weeks. :rolleyes: Yet more Latino's are killed by police than blacks, I've yet to see anything about them on TV this year.


It's not BlackLivesMatter assholes; it's AllLivesMatter.
They are subconsciously dividing themselves from the rest of the world when they're "trying" in reality to merge in.

All the media is doing is increasing the racial tension, people need to smarten up already.

[Patrick Chewing]

So the Black Community wants blood? It's only fair for them if white people get killed too??

And then they wonder why they're so far behind. Primitive way of thinking.

[West-Side]

So the Black Community wants blood? It's only fair for them if white people get killed too??

And then they wonder why they're so far behind. Primitive way of thinking.

CNN wanted the world to feel more sympathy for T.Martin (a ****ing criminal) than 70+ children murdered in Sweden or the 3 white young males killed near their University by police (wrongfully).

The sad thing is; so many uneducated black people wanted us to feel more sympathetic for the "skittle eating black teen" whose criminal record is the size of a bible than 6-10 year old children too. Mostly because he was BLACK and they were WHITE.

The black movement can go **** themselves.
I'm glad there are A LOT of educated and level headed black people out there who don't buy into this propaganda bullshit.

[97 bulls]

You mean the girl who was shot by a Korean store clerk? What the hell does that have to do with anything?
A poster asked why blacks burned up LA. With the mindset that since they didn't kill Rodney King, it was ok.

I just showed all that happened leading up to the LA riots

[Godzuki]

A poster asked why blacks burned up LA. With the mindset that since they didn't kill Rodney King, it was ok.

I just showed all that happened leading up to the LA riots


so that one incident was justification to destroy LA?

if only white people rioted and burned down black neighborhoods for when a black person did something fukked up to a whitie :coleman:

[KNOW1EDGE]

so that one incident was justification to destroy LA?

if only white people rioted and burned down black neighborhoods for when a black person did something fukked up to a whitie :coleman:

There would be no neighborhoods.

Thankfully, there is a large difference in intelligence levels that allows the whites to remain civilized :cheers:

[97 bulls]

so that one incident was justification to destroy LA?

if only white people rioted and burned down black neighborhoods for when a black person did something fukked up to a whitie :coleman:
How old are you Godzuki

[97 bulls]

what about owning up to when black people kill, rob, and assault azn, arab, and whities? happens all the time...but of course u only want to talk about when it happens to blacks.

what about when blacks burn down azn, arab, and whitie business's and leave the black ones alone?

why don't u ever own up to YOUR racism? :coleman:

u should join BLACK LIVES MATTER, you'd fit right in. i heard lame ass Bernie Sanders is pandering to them racists and hiring from the group that hijacked his rally. what a bitch ass candidate :facepalm
How is what im saying racism? I want the police to show.the same tolerance for blacks that they do for whites. Is that asking much?

[97 bulls]

There would be no neighborhoods.

Thankfully, there is a large difference in intelligence levels that allows the whites to remain civilized :cheers:
Right. Because the only justification for rioting is when your local sports team wins a Championship like we see white people doing

[NumberSix]

Right. Because the only justification for rioting is when your local sports team wins a Championship like we see white people doing
I've literally never seen a single person defend that behaviour. I also wasn't aware that sports fans are only white.

[97 bulls]

There's like 100,000+ police altercations in U.S. a day.
The black community just LOVES to pick and choose their cases.

It's the most annoying thing ever actually. I have seen and read countless of policy killings of white people yet not a single **** is given by the media. No one bats an eye. Yet every wrong doing by the cops involving black people is on CNN for the next 3 weeks. :rolleyes: Yet more Latino's are killed by police than blacks, I've yet to see anything about them on TV this year.


It's not BlackLivesMatter assholes; it's AllLivesMatter.
They are subconsciously dividing themselves from the rest of the world when they're "trying" in reality to merge in.

All the media is doing is increasing the racial tension, people need to smarten up already.
You're missing the point. I agree all lives matter. My point is that when an unarmed criminal better yet bkack criminal gets murdered, the come back is that this is how the police do everyone. Theres many videos that show this just isnt true.

When a you have 3 or 4 cops going up against 1 black guy, thats unarmed, why is the first resort to put 10 bullets in his chest?

[West-Side]

How is what im saying racism? I want the police to show.the same tolerance for blacks that they do for whites. Is that asking much?

:facepalm Typical black person answer.
I have seen plenty of white people in real life and on TV get treated like shit, PLENTY. Only difference is they don't get their fame on CNN every time it happens to them.

That's why there's so much racial tension now. Because black people turn a blind eye to everything that is happening to other races and only complain when something unjust happens to their people. As I've already said way more Latino's get killed in the States yet we barely notice any of those killings on TV.

People like you are media's muppets; that's exactly who they target, people who buy into the propaganda and think that only black people face police brutality or that the stuff they see on TV happens to every single black person that gets pulled over.

Without realizing; it's just 1 altercation out of thousands that occur every damn day, and that other races are exposed to the same injustice that blacks face.

Again, answer to me this simple question and I love how every black person ignores it: Where are the Latino's on TV? Those that are likely to get killed by a cop (3 times to 1) that of a black man?

In the past decade nearly 400% more Latino's were killed by LAPD than blacks.

I don't see no ****ing #LatinoLivesMatter bullshit.
Because the media knows it's far easier to create tension and controversy against the black community because of their history with slavery, KKK etc.

Wake the **** up.

[97 bulls]

I've literally never seen a single person defend that behaviour. I also wasn't aware that sports fans are only white.
Lol. The poster I responded to basically made the claim that whites don't riot because theyre civilized. So not only is this moron justifying whites rioting, he obviously sees nothing wrong with it.

[NumberSix]

You're missing the point. I agree all lives matter. My point is that when an unarmed criminal better yet bkack criminal gets murdered, the come back is that this is how the police do everyone. Theres many videos that show this just isnt true.

When a you have 3 or 4 cops going up against 1 black guy, thats unarmed, why is the first resort to put 10 bullets in his chest?
Right. Because there are no cases of multiple cops killing non-blacks who are unarmed. And there are no cases of cops going out of their way to not shoot a black person.

[NumberSix]

Lol. The poster I responded to basically made the claim that whites don't riot because theyre civilized. So not only is this moron justifying whites rioting, he obviously sees nothing wrong with it.
:wtf:

So which is it? Whites don't riot, or they do but it's ok? :confusedshrug:

[Charlie Sheen]

The problem I have with all of this is the response by police to these matters. They close rank and rally behind the shield regardless if the officer was a shitbag who wasn't equipped to be in that line of work.

[97 bulls]

:facepalm Typical black person answer.
I have seen plenty of white people in real life and on TV get treated like shit, PLENTY. Only difference is they don't get their fame on CNN every time it happens to them.
No you havnt. Give me examples. And what I mean by examples, is an unarmed white person gets killed by the police on video, and the police are let go. And even justified. Again blacks are upset when the police unjustly murder a black person, we get made when they are justified and exonerated. Especially when the incident is caught on film.


Again, answer to me this simple question and I love how every black person ignores it: Where are the Latino's on TV? Those that are likely to get killed by a cop (3 times to 1) that of a black man?
Latinos do get up in arms. But again, show me where a latino person is killed by the police, on video, and the latino community doesn't go up in arms over it.


In the past decade nearly 400% more Latino's were killed by LAPD than blacks.

I don't see no ****ing #LatinoLivesMatter bullshit.
Again, were they justifiable? Were they in video? The black.community doesn't go up in arms when the police kill a black person justifiably. Look at that black guy in New York that stabbed someone in the Jewish Temple. The police killed him and blacks agreed.

We get bent out if shape when a black person is killed by the police, again unjustly, on video, and the police are let go. We didn't get mad when that pooice officer shot that black guy in the hip for reaching for his wallet to give the officer his license. Why? Because he was arrested and sentenced. We didn't get up in arms when that police officer shot that man in the back then planted evidence next to his dead body. Because the officer was arrested. And even then I read some of the replies from posters blaming that black guy.

[NumberSix]

No you havnt. Give me examples. And what I mean by examples, is an unarmed white person gets killed by the police on video, and the police are let go. And even justified. Again blacks are upset when the police unjustly murder a black person, we get made when they are justified and exonerated. Especially when the incident is caught on film.


Latinos do get up in arms. But again, show me where a latino person is killed by the police, on video, and the latino community doesn't go up in arms over it.


Again, were they justifiable? Were they in video? The black.community doesn't go up in arms when the police kill a black person justifiably. Look at that black guy in New York that stabbed someone in the Jewish Temple. The police killed him and blacks agreed.

We get bent out if shape when a black person is killed by the police, again unjustly, on video, and the police are let go. We didn't get mad when that pooice officer shot that black guy in the hip for reaching for his wallet to give the officer his license. Why? Because he was arrested and sentenced. We didn't get up in arms when that police officer shot that man in the back then planted evidence next to his dead body. Because the officer was arrested. And even then I read some of the replies from posters blaming that black guy.
Where are all these incidents of blacks getting murdered on film by cops and the cops getting away with it? :wtf:

The guy that shot the guy in the back is being charged with murder. That guy that shot the guy in the car is being charged with murder. Where are all the cries of "those cops din do nuffin" that you're ranting about?

[NumberSix]

Again, were they justifiable? Were they in video? The black.community doesn't go up in arms when the police kill a black person justifiably. Look at that black guy in New York that stabbed someone in the Jewish Temple. The police killed him and blacks agreed.
Did you miss that whole Michael Brown thing? :confusedshrug:

[97 bulls]

Right. Because there are no cases of multiple cops killing non-blacks who are unarmed. And there are no cases of cops going out of their way to not shoot a black person.
But are they let go?

[97 bulls]

Did you miss that whole Michael Brown thing? :confusedshrug:
Yes. They didn't deem that justifiable. And again, he was let go

[97 bulls]

Where are all these incidents of blacks getting murdered on film by cops and the cops getting away with it? :wtf:

The guy that shot the guy in the back is being charged with murder. That guy that shot the guy in the car is being charged with murder. Where are all the cries of "those cops din do nuffin" that you're ranting about?
Wtf are YOU talking about???!!!! I said we don't complain when we feel its justified or the officer gets put in jail. Those are examples I used to back up my stance.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yes. They didn't deem that justifiable. And again, he was let go


LOL who didn't deem it justifiable??

[oh the horror]

OP I don't know why you'd engage in a dialog trying to explain this shit to the idiots here on this board.

[UK2K]

LOL who didn't deem it justifiable??

Nobody, he just made that up.

[West-Side]

OP I don't know why you'd engage in a dialog trying to explain this shit to the idiots here on this board.

Let me guess, you're black right? :rolleyes:

[Patrick Chewing]

Let me guess, you're black right? :rolleyes:


Nah, he just lives in California.


Up is down, right is left, and wrong is right in California.

[Patrick Chewing]

Nobody, he just made that up.


LOL i'm curious. I mean I really want to know how Laqueesha and Tyrellasaurus know more about the case and the law than a non-partisan jury of their peers.

[97 bulls]

LOL who didn't deem it justifiable??
Personally, as far as the Michael Brown situation, and the aftermath I feel the black community was wrong. Based on what I've heard of the situation

[UK2K]

LOL i'm curious. I mean I really want to know how Laqueesha and Tyrellasaurus know more about the case and the law than a non-partisan jury of their peers.

They don't. They tried to put one guy on the stand who completely lied about what happened.

The evidence was so overwhelmingly in favor of Ofc. Wilson, from REAL witness testimony to ballistics and forensics, that they decided it wasn't even worth their time to pursue.

But by that point, the BLM people had invested too much to admit their poster boy was an actual piece of shit who got what he deserved. So they took it and ran with it and never looked back.

[Patrick Chewing]

Personally, as far as the Michael Brown situation, and the aftermath I feel the black community was wrong. Based on what I've heard of the situation


Good. I'm glad you feel this way. The best a community can ask for (Black or White) is for proper justice. Not caveman justice, but 21st century justice. We're supposed to be more enlightened than our ancestors. Proper justice took place here. It went before a grand jury, and they made the correct decision based on the evidence provided.

[You Cant Ban Me]

so many small pink ***** in this thread :oldlol:

[97 bulls]

Good. I'm glad you feel this way. The best a community can ask for (Black or White) is for proper justice. Not caveman justice, but 21st century justice. We're supposed to be more enlightened than our ancestors. Proper justice took place here. It went before a grand jury, and they made the correct decision based on the evidence provided.
True. But it doesn't exonerate the whole situation.

[97 bulls]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhuXD7kSbQJRX7lFi6

This former Baltimore police officer echoes my sentiments of police relationships with minorities. We refuse to look at the big picture.

[UK2K]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhuXD7kSbQJRX7lFi6

This former Baltimore police officer echoes my sentiments of police relationships with minorities. We refuse to look at the big picture.

What I think every time I see someone complaining about unfair treatment by police...

http://ct.thisonesite.com/ol/to/se/i57/2/1/26/frabz-stop-breaking-the-law-asshole-70db71.jpg

[KNOW1EDGE]

Worldstarhiphop is where I go for unbiased, educated, well-written political articles because they are always based in fact and the people who write them are always really smart.

[97 bulls]

What I think every time I see someone complaining about unfair treatment by police...

http://ct.thisonesite.com/ol/to/se/i57/2/1/26/frabz-stop-breaking-the-law-asshole-70db71.jpg
Again. Its always this feeble attempt to justify the actions of an over zealous police officer or officers.

If you drive im sure youve broken the law and received a ticket. Your saying its ok for the police to have carte Blanche on whether or not you shoukd die?

[97 bulls]

Worldstarhiphop is where I go for unbiased, educated, well-written political articles because they are always based in fact and the people who write them are always really smart.
Lol. Did you even listen to the interview? Maybe that interview was staged. Maybe that man isnt or never was a police officer. Sarcasm

[97 bulls]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/06/25/an-interview-with-the-baltimore-cop-whos-revealing-all-the-horrible-things-he-saw-on-the-job/

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7655204

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5nPyf-0UMc

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/retired-accuses-baltimore-police-brutality-article-1.2270122




Worldstarhiphop is where I go for unbiased, educated, well-written political articles because they are always based in fact and the people who write them are always really smart.
Here jackass. This make you feel better?

[dude77]

most of these incidents have involved someone fking with cops and breaking the law .. I'll echo the same shit .. stop breaking the law and stop acting like some anti social dickhead with cops .. people don't wanna put themselves in their shoes .. look what happened to that guy in memphis .. they got targets on their backs .. that's why they're so cautious .. so you have to put yourself in their shoes .. when you're stopped .. don't act a fool and don't break the fkn law and 99% of the time you're ok

[longtime lurker]

Damn white privilege. GOAT body armour

[KNOW1EDGE]

Damn white privilege. GOAT body armour

White privelage AKA not being a retard is the greatest body armour known to man.

And to think, we are all equipped with the same body armour, but only some of us choose to use it. And those of us who don't use our armour and fight with Police and end up hurt blame the people who use their armour. Sounds like the people who aren't using their brains are pretty stupid huh?

[longtime lurker]

White privelage AKA not being a retard is the greatest body armour known to man.

And to think, we are all equipped with the same body armour, but only some of us choose to use it. And those of us who don't use our armour and fight with Police and end up hurt blame the people who use their armour. Sounds like the people who aren't using their brains are pretty stupid huh?

It's obvious that you didn't bother to look at the videos that the OP posted. I'm not surprised considering everything you post is the equivalent of written diarrhea

[KNOW1EDGE]

It's obvious that you didn't bother to look at the videos that the OP posted. I'm not surprised considering everything you post is the equivalent of written diarrhea

I am intelligent though.

I don't need to watch propoganda videos to know that no matter what color you are if you don't commit crimes or fuhck with police you'll be fine.

[longtime lurker]

I am intelligent though.

I don't need to watch propoganda videos to know that no matter what color you are if you don't commit crimes or fuhck with police you'll be fine.

:oldlol: sure you are champ.

[UK2K]

Again. Its always this feeble attempt to justify the actions of an over zealous police officer or officers.

If you drive im sure youve broken the law and received a ticket. Your saying its ok for the police to have carte Blanche on whether or not you shoukd die?
If.I'm.speeding and I get pulled over, I'm not gonna bitch about a speeding ticket.

Cause I knew I was doing it.

Out of curiosity, what % of people who are convicted of breaking laws do you think knew they were breaking laws when they allegedly broke them?

[Norcaliblunt]

OP, blacks will never achieve any positive results for their cause by calling a majority of the population "beneficiaries of white privilege", no mater how true it may or may not be. Bottom line. Structure your movement on concrete economic demands everyone can get behind and you'll see progress.

[UK2K]

Chris Rock cracks me up.

This skit sesms appropriate.

NSFW: Language. But hilarious.

[97 bulls]

OP, blacks will never achieve any positive results for their cause by calling a majority of the population "beneficiaries of white privilege", no mater how true it may or may not be. Bottom line. Structure your movement on concrete economic demands everyone can get behind and you'll see progress.
I agree. But heres the problem. First and foremost, there must be a common ground. Ive said before, its not a black or white thing, its a socio-economic thing.

I posted those videos to show that police can show restraint even in intense situations. Theres always gonna be criminals. That why we have police. But the justification for the actions of these people whove are being payed to serve the community is just irreprehenisible.

I applaud the officers in thise videos because they value lives. In just about every video shown where a black person is killed by what we call an overzealous cop, the reply is always that this is how cops do things.

No its not. They dont repect black live.

And understand, we cant argue, things that aren't on film. The law always sides with the police. Even with videos in some instances.

I just dont see situations where a white criminals even armed just get shot off the cuff.

[NumberSix]

I agree. But heres the problem. First and foremost, there must be a common ground. Ive said before, its not a black or white thing, its a socio-economic thing.

I posted those videos to show that police can show restraint even in intense situations. Theres always gonna be criminals. That why we have police. But the justification for the actions of these people whove are being payed to serve the community is just irreprehenisible.

I applaud the officers in thise videos because they value lives. In just about every video shown where a black person is killed by what we call an overzealous cop, the reply is always that this is how cops do things.

No its not. They dont repect black live.

And understand, we cant argue, things that aren't on film. The law always sides with the police. Even with videos in some instances.

I just dont see situations where a white criminals even armed just get shot off the cuff.
So, there's a new story out that a police officer got beaten bloody and unconscious with his own gun because he was scared to shoot an aggressive criminal because he didn't want to be lynch mob target like officer Darren Wilson.

[UK2K]

So, there's a new story out that a police officer got beaten bloody and unconscious with his own gun because he was scared to shoot an aggressive criminal because he didn't want to be lynch mob target like officer Darren Wilson.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.

I could see where the news would make you hesitant. Especially if an unarmed man charges you. But I'd rather put one in someone chest then to be pistol whipped. He's lucky the guy didn't blow his head off while he was at it. You already assaulted an officer, may as well put one in his dome. Either way, you're going to jail for decades.

[RidonKs]

jeez, race sure is a big deal in america these days. i wonder why :hammerhead:

[NumberSix]

jeez, race sure is a big deal in america these days. i wonder why :hammerhead:
It's true. Race just recently became relevant in America.

[97 bulls]

If.I'm.speeding and I get pulled over, I'm not gonna bitch about a speeding ticket.

Cause I knew I was doing it.

Out of curiosity, what % of people who are convicted of breaking laws do you think knew they were breaking laws when they allegedly broke them?
Fine but if you do. It does not give the officer the right to kill you. People are justifying the actions if the police by saying they broke the law. Thats wrong.

[97 bulls]

So, there's a new story out that a police officer got beaten bloody and unconscious with his own gun because he was scared to shoot an aggressive criminal because he didn't want to be lynch mob target like officer Darren Wilson.
No one is arguing justified shootings. Again, there a video of a police officer shooting and killing a black man who came after him with a knife. No one argued it.

[NumberSix]

No one is arguing justified shootings. Again, there a video of a police officer shooting and killing a black man who came after him with a knife. No one argued it.
Again, that whole Ferguson/Michael Brown thing.

[97 bulls]

Again, that whole Ferguson/Michael Brown thing.
Look at it this way. The way our society is set up, if the police kill a man, the dead man is guilty until proven innocent. And most often, if there isnt a video. It goes by the cops story. I still find it amazing that for some reason that Brown kid was running then turned and charged the officer.

Either way. Michael Brown isnt someone I feel Blacks should be defending.

Look at the case where the police officer shot and killed that man then said he was trying to take taser and even planted the evidence. Had it not been filmed, you guys woild be defending him til the cows come home.

Or more recently. The officer who shot and killed that guy and said he had to cuz he was being dragged. You guys would be defending that to the bitter end.

[longtime lurker]

So, there's a new story out that a police officer got beaten bloody and unconscious with his own gun because he was scared to shoot an aggressive criminal because he didn't want to be lynch mob target like officer Darren Wilson.

So you respond to his post with something completely unrelated that doesn't even provide a counter argument to his post. You just like to be dumb when it comes to these issues.


Either way. Michael Brown isnt someone I feel Blacks should be defending.

Why exactly not? Whether or not Michael Brown is a good person is irrelevant because a death sentence isn't just cause for stealing.

[RidonKs]

It's true. Race just recently became relevant in America.
there are quiet periods and riotous periods. the discourse is bipolar and toxic on both sides for the most part. but through every ebb and flow and more vibrant conversation is taking place outside of popular circles. the politicians and pundits aren't talking about it, academia isn't talking about it, columnists and reporters and journalists aren't talking about it, and insidehoops definitely isn't... neither is reddit or youtube or the fking forum of the naacp. it's too hard to have these conversations in public with people you aren't very familiar with.

the right conversations are taking place between confidants and intimates over what is appropriate to say and what isn't appropriate to say. furthermore they are correcting the immature assumptions that black people have any sort of a free ride or get to be racist to white people or enjoy pulling "the card" or whatever the hell else. and those powerful conversations make ripple effects that spill outward into society. they are manifested in our entertainment media and our work environments, our education programming and our athletic interests.

it's only the people having those conversations, and not to mention those with a sharp enough eye to recognize it on its merit alone :pimp:, who see the rising tide of political correctness which has come to overwhelm whatever independence streak makes crude people think it's okay to act like punks to others in public.

we may proclaim al sharpton and jon stewart as our heroes for the time being, because they're goofy and flagrant, but the heart of the message goes back to Whence Divine Lord Jesus "Son of God" Christ entered the scene with a simple scroll; reciprocate kindness. forgive transgression. love strangers.

the meek may not exactly impress us with their clever tactics or empirical precision, but we can nevertheless abide by Thomas Jefferson who had great faith in the common man, especially the sort to sneer right back upon catching an established elite sneering at him.


“I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves ; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.

"Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, Liberals and Serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, Whigs and Tories, Republicans and Federalists, Aristocrats and Democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object. The last one of Aristocrats and Democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all."

preach

[97 bulls]

So you respond to his post with something completely unrelated that doesn't even provide a counter argument to his post. You just like to be dumb when it comes to these issues.



Why exactly not? Whether or not Michael Brown is a good person is irrelevant because a death sentence isn't just cause for stealing.
Because the evidence isnt concrete. And there are far stronger issues to get behind.

[UK2K]

So you respond to his post with something completely unrelated that doesn't even provide a counter argument to his post. You just like to be dumb when it comes to these issues.



Why exactly not? Whether or not Michael Brown is a good person is irrelevant because a death sentence isn't just cause for stealing.

Assault with the intent to cause serious bodily harm is though.

Justifiable shooting. The end.

[NumberSix]

Look at the case where the police officer shot and killed that man then said he was trying to take taser and even planted the evidence. Had it not been filmed, you guys woild be defending him til the cows come home.
Yeah, of course. Had there been no evidence of his guilt, we would have argued that there is no evidence that he's guilty. That's called common sense. Fortunately, in that case there is evidence of his guilt.

[97 bulls]

Yeah, of course. Had there been no evidence of his guilt, we would have argued that there is no evidence that he's guilty. That's called common sense. Fortunately, in that case there is evidence of his guilt.
Right and youd be defending a lie. And thats my point.

[NumberSix]

Right and youd be defending a lie. And thats my point.
What lie?

It seems you fundamentally misunderstand the point of the justice system. It's not to lock up people if you think they might be guilty. :hammerhead:

Not guilty =/= definitely innocent.

[97 bulls]

What lie?

It seems you fundamentally misunderstand the point of the justice system. It's not to lock up people if you think they might be guilty. :hammerhead:

Not guilty =/= definitely innocent.
I totally understand the justice system. I also understand theres two different types if justice. Like I stated earlier. If a person kills a man, the dead man must prove hes innocent.

You guys need to stop acting like the police are above reproach.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I totally understand the justice system. I also understand theres two different types if justice. Like I stated earlier. If a person kills a man, the dead man must prove hes innocent.

You guys need to stop acting like the police are above reproach.

In most cases the evidence, eye-witness testimony, video etc etc prove innocence or guilt not an accused persons testimony.

But I get what your saying, what's stopping cops from shooting people(of all colors)dead and then saying it was justified and the victim can't defend himself?

Plenty of flaws in our judicial system

[97 bulls]

In most cases the evidence, eye-witness testimony, video etc etc prove innocence or guilt not an accused persons testimony.

But I get what your saying, what's stopping cops from shooting people(of all colors)dead and then saying it was justified and the victim can't defend himself?

Plenty of flaws in our judicial system
Exactly. But even more (and your gonna hate me for this) I think we as black people would understand this better if they (the police) were consistent. Are there exceptions to the rule? Yes. But I just don't think we as black people get handled the same way

[KNOW1EDGE]

Exactly. But even more (and your gonna hate me for this) I think we as black people understand this better if they (the police) were consistent. Are there exceptions to the rule? Yes. But I just don't think we as black people get handled the same way

I dont mind one bit when I see these criminals (of any color) killed by police.

But I hate it, and I agree, that an innocent and respectable black person is more likely to be mistreated by police than a respectable and innocent white person.

Peaceful protest, promotion of peace and unity, and honest discussion between the 2 parties is the only solution to the problem. Sadly, neither side wants to keep it real or take responsibility for their part of the problem. Imo

[97 bulls]

I dont mind one bit when I see these criminals (of any color) killed by police.

But I hate it, and I agree, that an innocent and respectable black person is more likely to be mistreated by police than a respectable and innocent white person.

Peaceful protest, promotion of peace and unity, and honest discussion between the 2 parties is the only solution to the problem. Sadly, neither side wants to keep it real or take responsibility for their part of the problem. Imo
Very fair assesment.