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JohnMax
08-13-2015, 05:24 PM
Golden State Warriors superstar Stephen Curry said it's "funny" that, despite being the defending champs, the Warriors are not the title favorites, according to a report from CBS Sports on Wednesday.

The Cleveland Cavaliers, who lost to the Warriors in six games in the NBA Finals, are the Las Vegas favorites, with oddsmaker Bovada giving the Cavs -- who will be adding a healthy Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving this season -- 11-4 title odds.

The Warriors are tied with the San Antonio Spurs -- who add All-Star big man LaMarcus Aldridge -- with the second-best title odds, 9-2.

"We obviously are the champs, and you've got to think that we're gonna be a better team next year with our experiences that we've had, and we're not the favorites," Curry told CBS Sports at the Team USA minicamp in Las Vegas. "Obviously there's been a lot of noise, teams retooling and trying to boost their lineups. You have teams that haven't set foot on the floor yet and are heavily favored to kick us off our throne."

While being tied for second in the title race odds is hardly disrespectful, even as the defending champs, perhaps this is the fuel Curry and the Warriors will use next season to prevent the complacency that can plague young championship teams.

"We obviously know what's going on," Curry said. "And it's up to us to keep our momentum that we built."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25268077/stephen-curry-says-its-funny-warriors-are-not-title-favorites

bdreason
08-13-2015, 05:31 PM
People know it's hard to repeat. Especially trying to battle through the Western Conference.





Once again the West will come down to playoff matchups and health.

STATUTORY
08-13-2015, 05:34 PM
Lebron is always the favorite to win the championship, until he loses then it's because he didn't have enough help and must escape all culpability for failure.

Damn it feels good to be Da Brawn

bizil
08-13-2015, 05:35 PM
The Warriors' brand of small ball worked this time around. Gotta give them props! But I think the Cavs would have won if it wasn't for injuries. The Cavs were missing two of the top 15-20 players in the world. And when u look at teams like the Cavs, Thunder, Clippers, Spurs, Memphis, and Houston, they all have big lineups. So I think the Warriors would be better served to somehow get some more EFFECTIVE big men.

Trollsmasher
08-13-2015, 05:37 PM
it's almost like people know they only won because of freak injuries to the Cavs

Uncle Drew
08-13-2015, 05:40 PM
it's almost like people know they only won because of freak injuries to the Cavs
And the Grizzlies. And the Rockets.

fiddy
08-13-2015, 05:40 PM
it's almost like people know they only won because of freak injuries to the Cavs
With or without Kyrie and the stat padder, Warriors were winning, stay salty

Trollsmasher
08-13-2015, 05:41 PM
With or without Kyrie and the stat padder, Warriors were winning, stay salty
Cavs would win comfortably just with healthy Kyrie

they would've swept the dubs with both Kyrie and Love

fiddy
08-13-2015, 05:42 PM
Cavs would win comfortably just with healthy Kyrie

they would've swept the dubs with both Kyrie and Love
Delusional :roll:

ArbitraryWater
08-13-2015, 05:43 PM
Delusional :roll:

you think you have the right to call people delusional after you just said that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of an already 6 game series?

ISH

DMV2
08-13-2015, 05:44 PM
it's almost like people know they only won because of freak injuries to the Cavs
More like GSW having to face the Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, Grizzlies out in the West as oppose to the Cavs being shoe-ins for the Finals.

Trollsmasher
08-13-2015, 05:45 PM
More like GSW having to face the Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, Grizzlies out in the West as oppose to the Cavs being shoe-ins for the Finals.
whom has GSW faced last season again?

fiddy
08-13-2015, 05:45 PM
you think you have the right to call people delusional after you just said that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of an already 6 game series?

ISH
I smell excuses

LoneyROY7
08-13-2015, 05:50 PM
I want to hear what the FMVP thinks.

DMV2
08-13-2015, 05:50 PM
you think you have the right to call people delusional after you just said that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of an already 6 game series?

ISH
It was a loopsided 6-game series. First 3, even series. Last 3, all Warriors. Actually, I think all of Warriors wins were blowout or they had control from start to finish. Cavs wins were close games.

Anyway, here's the thing. We can't even used what happened in the series to indicate the result if it was a healthy Cavs team anyway.

With Love and Irving, it would have been completely different strategy anyway because LeBron wouldn't have taken 35 shots a game. He even said so himself, he wouldn't be shooting that much if he didn't have to. Healthy Cavs, different strategy. Totally different series, Warriors would have had to play without any mistakes like they did.

ArbitraryWater
08-13-2015, 05:53 PM
It was a loopsided 6-game series. First 3, even series. Last 3, all Warriors. Actually, I think all of Warriors wins were blowout or they had control from start to finish. Cavs wins were close games.

Anyway, here's the thing. We can't even used what happened in the series to indicate the result if it was a healthy Cavs team anyway.

With Love and Irving, it would have been completely different strategy anyway because LeBron wouldn't have taken 35 shots a game. He even said so himself, he wouldn't be shooting that much if he didn't have to.

Is this gonna be the new narrative? :roll:

GSW won one of their games in OT (Game 1), so did the Cavs (Game 2)... Game 3 was about as close as Game 6, with both teams storming back late to almost make it a game... Game 4 was a blowout, and Game 5 was tied with 5 mins left and a 2 possession game with 3 mins (and a large outrage over the calls GSW got)..

Seriously, it was your normal close 6-game series.... stop this bullshit dude, not used to it from you.

And the rest, yea, Bron wouldn't take 35 shots, thanks for that... guess what, it would benefit his efficiency and the Cavs overall scoring output/effectiveness. This isnt hard to understand.

DMV2
08-13-2015, 05:56 PM
Is this gonna be the new narrative? :roll:

GSW won one of their games in OT (Game 1), so did the Cavs (Game 2)... Game 3 was about as close as Game 6, with both teams storming back late to almost make it a game... Game 4 was a blowout, and Game 5 was tied with 5 mins left and a 2 possession game with 3 mins (and a large outrage over the calls GSW got)..

Seriously, it was your normal close 6-game series.... stop this bullshit dude, not used to it from you.
You remember how much GSW was leading in Game 5? Cavs had a nice little nice, but it was still all GSW. As I said, last 3 game was either dominated by Warriors or controlled by Warriors. GSW clearly controlled Game 5.

They also had full control of that overtime Game 1 too.

Megabox!
08-13-2015, 05:56 PM
It was a loopsided 6-game series. First 3, even series. Last 3, all Warriors. Actually, I think all of Warriors wins were blowout or they had control from start to finish. Cavs wins were close games.
It wasn't really all that lopsided of a series IMO, every single game besides game 4 was close late in the 4th quarter. Cavs got dead legs and the Warriors had extra bodies, so they would just pull away. The final score doesn't really tell how close those games were.

fiddy
08-13-2015, 05:58 PM
It wasn't a lopsided series, every single game besides game 4 was close late in the 4th quarter. Cavs got dead legs and the Warriors had extra bodies, so they would just pull away. The final score doesn't really tell how close those games were.
Exactly, GSW had more depth, even with Kyrie healthy the Dubs would still have won.

ArbitraryWater
08-13-2015, 05:58 PM
You remember how much GSW was leading in Game 5? Cavs had a nice little nice, but it was still all GSW. As I said, last 3 game was either dominated by Warriors or controlled by Warriors. GSW clearly controlled Game 5.

No, I actually dont... I remember it being close to start the 4th (it was), the Cavs were up in the 3rd, it was ONE point game at halftime, it was tied after the first quarter, and there were a bunch of lead changes in the 2nd... :lol

just staaahp, go any further and its just more wrongness

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-13-2015, 05:59 PM
Is this gonna be the new narrative? :roll:

GSW won one of their games in OT (Game 1), so did the Cavs (Game 2)... Game 3 was about as close as Game 6, with both teams storming back late to almost make it a game... Game 4 was a blowout, and Game 5 was tied with 5 mins left and a 2 possession game with 3 mins (and a large outrage over the calls GSW got)..

Seriously, it was your normal close 6-game series.... stop this bullshit dude, not used to it from you.

And the rest, yea, Bron wouldn't take 35 shots, thanks for that... guess what, it would benefit his efficiency and the Cavs overall scoring output/effectiveness. This isnt hard to understand.

Close 6 game series, and LeBron was historically awful in 4th quarters...

http://s7.postimg.org/szo9zv2mj/23232.png



And just when you think it couldn't have gotten worse

*waits for it*


http://s27.postimg.org/u2cso5pr7/22222222222222222222.png


Oh me, oh my... :eek: :lebronamazed:

ArbitraryWater
08-13-2015, 06:01 PM
Close 6 game series, and LeBron was historically awful in 4th quarters...

http://s7.postimg.org/szo9zv2mj/23232.png



And just when you think it couldn't have gotten worse

*waits for it*


http://s27.postimg.org/u2cso5pr7/22222222222222222222.png


Oh me, oh my... :eek: :lebronamazed:

was it necessary derailing this thread when we just talked about it in the other?

Its okay, I saw it, you did a good job looking those up :cheers:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-13-2015, 06:01 PM
was it necessary derailing this thread when we just talked about it in the other?

Its okay, I saw it, you did a good job looking those up :cheers:

http://cdn.funnyhub.com/2015/jan/carlton-dance/carlton-dance26.gif

fiddy
08-13-2015, 06:02 PM
Close 6 game series, and LeBron was historically awful in 4th quarters...

http://s7.postimg.org/szo9zv2mj/23232.png



And just when you think it couldn't have gotten worse

*waits for it*


http://s27.postimg.org/u2cso5pr7/22222222222222222222.png


Oh me, oh my... :eek: :lebronamazed:

bran stans on suicide watch

DMV2
08-13-2015, 06:05 PM
It wasn't really all that lopsided of a series IMO, every single game besides game 4 was close late in the 4th quarter. Cavs got dead legs and the Warriors had extra bodies, so they would just pull away. The final score doesn't really tell how close those games were.
Still, we can't used the outcome of that series as if just plugging in Love and Irving automatically equals a series win for the Cavs.

LeBron wouldn't have taken 35 shots. He admitted he hated doing that on live TV, but he had no other choice.

So with healthy Love and Irving, LeBron would have give up some his opportunities to Love and Irving. Kyrie was kinda clutch in his early years, we know that but he had a so-so 2014-15 season. Love is a big question mark. Would he been able to come through on the biggest stage of is career?

I don't think we could automatically say healthy Cavs win easily like that.

ArbitraryWater
08-13-2015, 06:08 PM
Still, we can't used the outcome of that series as if just plugging in Love and Irving automatically equals a series win for the Cavs.

LeBron wouldn't have taken 35 shots. He admitted he hated doing that on live TV, but he had no other choice.

So with healthy Love and Irving, LeBron would have give up some his opportunities to Love and Irving. Kyrie was kinda clutch in his early years, we know that but he had a so-so 2014-15 season. Love is a big question mark. Would he been able to come through on the biggest stage of is career?

I don't think we could automatically say healthy Cavs win easily like that.

:biggums:

seriously, what are ya smoking my dude

SCdac
08-13-2015, 06:10 PM
Steph is just gonna have to live with it. If they're still a championship team, they're gonna have to prove it. I mean I'm fine with the statement "they're still the team to beat" because I think there's alot of truth to it, but I think it's more out of respect than anything. Respecting them as last season's best team... but this upcoming season should be intense and hopefully more competitive. Spurs re-tooled, healthy Kevin Durant and Westbrook for OKC, hopefully healthy Cavs team, Clips w/ paul pierce, etc... Just because their team won a championship in the here and now doesn't necessarily mean they're an unparalleled team in the past and future.. look at the 2011 championship Mavs not long ago - their championship was relatively dominant but was followed by a 1st round exit then missing the playoffs altogether the following season. But it's different in that GSW should be in their collective prime and kept all their pieces.. still, I can see other teams coming out swinging.

Megabox!
08-13-2015, 06:10 PM
Still, we can't used the outcome of that series as if just plugging in Love and Irving automatically equals a series win for the Cavs.

LeBron wouldn't have taken 35 shots. He admitted he hated doing that on live TV, but he had no other choice.

So with healthy Love and Irving, LeBron would have give up some his opportunities to Love and Irving. Kyrie was kinda clutch in his early years, we know that but he had a so-so 2014-15 season. Love is a big question mark. Would he been able to come through on the biggest stage of is career?

I don't think we could automatically say healthy Cavs win easily like that. I agree with you there, adding those 2 doesn't automatically give them the W even LBJ said that. But it sure as hell gives them a MUCH better shot at it. Injuries just ruined the whole season, wish everyone would stay healthy for once

Thunderfan86
08-13-2015, 06:20 PM
I want to hear what the FMVP thinks.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

G0ATbe
08-13-2015, 06:27 PM
Not really. Best player in the league wasn't even playing that season, and we all know OKC/Cavs would've manhandled Warriors and anyone else in the league if they were healthy.

Warriors beat a bunch of injured teams tbh , gave me flashbacks of 2012/2013 Heat title runs.

Young X
08-13-2015, 06:46 PM
I don't care if their competition was weak, the Warriors are still the team to beat. The previous champion should always be the team to beat (unless they're clearly worse like the '12 Mavs were). We haven't even seen these other teams play yet.

Barring any major injuries, the Warriors will likely be even better next season which is scary. They're still the most balanced team in the league on both ends.

FKAri
08-13-2015, 06:46 PM
I want to hear what the FMVP thinks.

This. I'm not interested in the opinions of a roll player.

WorldWarriors
08-13-2015, 08:39 PM
Just come back and do it again Baby!

Bay Area Baller
08-13-2015, 11:35 PM
SO if Steph Curry never had an ankle injury we'd have two Titles. Makes sense.:cheers: :cheers:

NBAplayoffs2001
08-14-2015, 02:27 AM
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Aka, those stats mean nada nearly every year.

Gileraracer
08-14-2015, 03:14 AM
Cause they know LeBald will have a cakewalk to the finals again.
Adam Silba makes sure he'll be in shape when finals time comes.

And yet again he'll loose :lol :lol Help from everywhere and still 2/6

Chrono90
08-14-2015, 03:16 AM
Lebron is always the favorite to win the championship, until he loses then it's because he didn't have enough help and must escape all culpability for failure.

Damn it feels good to be Da Brawn

Reason = E.A.S.T.E.R.N. Conterence

He knows better not to go to the West.