Anderson Silva suspended one year after testing positive for banned substances

[ArbitraryWater]

GOAT out

[fiddy]

next Lebron pls

[FKAri]

Most athletes trying to come back from an injury are gonna be on banned substances.

[Godzuki]

damn MMA is falling apart these days...

GSP out, Jon Jones out, now Anderson Silva :facepalm

the only goat left is rousey :bowdown:

[Mr Feeny]

The cheat is out

Fixed it there for you, A.W.:cheers:

[iTare]

Most overrated piece of shit this sport has ever seen.
Chael should have beaten him the first time and the second if it wasn't for his autism. It's cool tho, my boi Chris showed the world that this guy was nothing but an intermediate muay thai artist with some bjj skill. Not GOAT.

Jones
Fedor
Aldo
Gsp
Weidman

Remember that list, never forget it.

[HitandRun Reggie]

damn MMA is falling apart these days...

GSP out, Jon Jones out, now Anderson Silva :facepalm

the only goat left is rousey :bowdown:

Silva was never going to bounce back to championship form anyway after that injury at his age. He ain't Randy Couture, he needs that speed and quickness.

[dude77]

I would like to have seen silva vs. fedor back in the day .. fedor would have murdered him

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Hah! What a fraud.

And lol @ GOAT. Fedor at his best would have ripped that clowns head off, and shit down his neck.

[~primetime~]

Fedor was in a higher weight class


Prime Silva still would have beat him though I think

[jamal99]

Fedor was in a higher weight class


Prime Silva still would have beat him though I think
Prime Fedor would destroy prime Silva. Weight difference wouldn't be so big as Silva probably walks around 220 and Fedor is about 235, Silva is taller and longer, but much weaker...

[~primetime~]

Prime Fedor would destroy prime Silva. Weight difference wouldn't be so big as Silva probably walks around 220 and Fedor is about 235, Silva is taller and longer, but much weaker...
I think it would be a really good fight

[RedBlackAttack]

Fedor was in a higher weight class


Prime Silva still would have beat him though I think
...would beat a prime Fedor? Wow, I think that would be a total mismatch. Fedor in his prime was as strong as a bear with basically no weaknesses. Way too big and strong for Silva.

[~primetime~]

...would beat a prime Fedor? Wow, I think that would be a total mismatch. Fedor in his prime was as strong as a bear with basically no weaknesses. Way too big and strong for Silva.
IMO prime Silva is the most skilled fighter in the history of...fighting

I think really highly of the guy, I definitely feel like he is more skilled than Fedor, it's just a question of if that is enough to overcome the size/strength difference.

[Mr Feeny]

IMO prime Silva is the most skilled fighter in the history of...fighting

I think really highly of the guy, I definitely feel like he is more skilled than Fedor, it's just a question of if that is enough to overcome the size/strength difference.

Your entitled to your opinion but you're in the minority here. Everyone's telling you prime Fedor would absolutely wreck and ravage Silva, and I happen to agree. Prime silva was a supreme cheat who got away with it for so long. Now that he's been exposed, lots of people (as you can clearly see) either drop him from their all time lists or don't consider him as great as they once thought he was. He did this to himself. A cheat is a cheat and he managed to wreck his legacy with his own stupidity.

[SaltyMeatballs]

HAAAAAAA!!!

[highwhey]

Jon Jones is the GOAT.

Now hopefully, everybody else thinks so too.

Sure, sure he's a cokehead and a piece of shit outside the cage but he wasn't a cheater.
Thats what im sayin...if you gona do drugs, do some coke or another man drug...not some "bro" drug.

[~primetime~]

Your entitled to your opinion but you're in the minority here. Everyone's telling you prime Fedor would absolutely wreck and ravage Silva, and I happen to agree. Prime silva was a supreme cheat who got away with it for so long. Now that he's been exposed, lots of people (as you can clearly see) either drop him from their all time lists or don't consider him as great as they once thought he was. He did this to himself. A cheat is a cheat and he managed to wreck his legacy with his own stupidity.
I have to say using steroids to get an edge is disgraceful.

I won't look at prime Silva as a steroid user though...and I doubt this does that much to many people's all time lists.

Prime Fedor is obviously capable of beating prime Anderson but I don't think he would "wreck and ravage" him...maybe if Silva got caught dancing again. No one of any weight class would be able to take prime Anderson lightly, it wouldn't be like that.

[ArbitraryWater]

Y'all sayin Fedor is GOAT shoulda been here with me http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384096 :coleman:

and he is, tbh

[Godzuki]

lets be honest, fedor very likely used steroids too.

Pride basically allowed steroids, and didn't test nearly as stringently as UFC does. plus Fedor always got special contracts and league favoritism.

and he was the pride of Russia/Putin. pretty likely they were feeding him steroids like Drago got to fight Rocky. Russia plays dirty like that for nations pride, especially in those 80's days~

[West-Side]

lets be honest, fedor very likely used steroids too.

Pride basically allowed steroids, and didn't test nearly as stringently as UFC does. plus Fedor always got special contracts and league favoritism.

and he was the pride of Russia/Putin. pretty likely they were feeding him steroids like Drago got to fight Rocky. Russia plays dirty like that for nations pride, especially in those 80's days~

You ****ing moron, go watch his biography.
The man was a religious and spiritual freak who didn't work out nearly as much as other MMA fighters. He focused more on his "mental" preparation. His gut belly should tell you that he's one of the least likely to use steroids. His workout regime consisted of what Stallone was doing in Rocky 4.

[Godzuki]

You ****ing moron, go watch his biography.
The man was a religious and spiritual freak who didn't work out nearly as much as other MMA fighters. He focused more on his "mental" preparation. His gut belly should tell you that he's one of the least likely to use steroids. His workout regime consisted of what Stallone was doing in Rocky 4.


more like Drago in Rocky 3 :sleeping

i can see Putin setting him up with some hot Russian bitch handler while he's supervising his prize to beat Americans...., and Russian scientists with all kinds of diodes connected to him while he's punching a bag checking on the progress of the masking agent roids.

not like it mattered much since Pride didnt give a shit about fighters taking performance enhancing drugs like UFC :coleman:

http://punchbets.com/news/images/1508051319-fedor.jpg

[SexSymbol]

I think Silva would destroy fedor prime for prime, completely different levels of skill

[Mr Feeny]

I think Silva would destroy fedor prime for prime, completely different levels of skillYou also think Kobe is a top 10 player tbf. You're wrong again. Same day. Same old, same old.

[West-Side]

I think Silva would destroy fedor prime for prime, completely different levels of skill

How?
Fedor has way more power, is extremely resilient, world-class submission game, world-class judo, excellent stand up.

Fedor will annihilate Silva if he tries his cocky acts in the octagon; Fedor isn't Forrest Griffin.

:oldlol: @ this moron thinking anyone would "destroy" prime Fedor. The man went undefeated 28 straight fights during a 10 year span; defending his title countless times. Silva gets caught with using steroids.

How soon people forget who Fedor was.
Just 5 years ago not a single soul alive would have considered Silva better; but now as times past and people only remember Fedor losing 3 straight fights, opinions change. I'd rather be a fan of a fighter that losses 3 straight fights than a cheater though.

Plus, what Weidman did to Silva was far more humiliating than Fedor getting caught a few times by legends like Ben Hendo and current UFC champ Werdum.

Both fights he was winning with ease until he got cut in the triangle and with the uppercut. Just carelessness on his part.

I can't wait to see The Last Emperor in the UFC; 75% of prime Fedor is enough to win the title, IMO.

[theballerFKA Ace]

I think Silva would destroy fedor prime for prime, completely different levels of skill


A young Fedor never let himself get dominated by smaller Asian dudes like Anderson. Silva is lucky he moved out of Pride, he had a weakness against Japanese fighters.

[Crimsonrain777]

Your entitled to your opinion but you're in the minority here. Everyone's telling you prime Fedor would absolutely wreck and ravage Silva, and I happen to agree. Prime silva was a supreme cheat who got away with it for so long. Now that he's been exposed, lots of people (as you can clearly see) either drop him from their all time lists or don't consider him as great as they once thought he was. He did this to himself. A cheat is a cheat and he managed to wreck his legacy with his own stupidity.

This is just wishful thinking, this doesnt affect his legacy at all. He's old as shit and his mma career(atleast to me) has been done for about a year now. I'm sure alot of people will still consider him in their top 2 greatest pound- for- pound mma fighters ever. If not the greatest

[Godzuki]

silva could beat fedor, anyone pretending otherwise is just a huge fedor stan. fedor has stans like beiber has stans. they're fanatics. u can't take them seriously because they aren't realistic about their hero.

silva could easily catch fedor in standup. he is one of the greatest stand up striker in ufc history. fedor could also possibly dominate silva on the ground and pound like chael did him. then gain silva can also beat fedor with triangle too. its why its a dream fight.

i think jon jones would beat fedor in his prime. i'm also positive werdum will whoop fedors ass if he makes it that far.

[West-Side]

silva could beat fedor, anyone pretending otherwise is just a huge fedor stan. fedor has stans like beiber has stans. they're fanatics. u can't take them seriously because they aren't realistic about their hero.

silva could easily catch fedor in standup. he is one of the greatest stand up striker in ufc history. fedor could also possibly dominate silva on the ground and pound like chael did him. then gain silva can also beat fedor with triangle too. its why its a dream fight.

i think jon jones would beat fedor in his prime. i'm also positive werdum will whoop fedors ass if he makes it that far.

Wait are you implying that Werdum is better than a prime Fedor?

[Godzuki]

Wait are you implying that Werdum is better than a prime Fedor?

werdum now could be goat :coleman:

[FKAri]

silva could beat fedor, anyone pretending otherwise is just a huge fedor stan. fedor has stans like beiber has stans. they're fanatics. u can't take them seriously because they aren't realistic about their hero.

silva could easily catch fedor in standup. he is one of the greatest stand up striker in ufc history. fedor could also possibly dominate silva on the ground and pound like chael did him. then gain silva can also beat fedor with triangle too. its why its a dream fight.

i think jon jones would beat fedor in his prime. i'm also positive werdum will whoop fedors ass if he makes it that far.

If Fedor took AS to the ground, AS would get worked worse than Nog did. If Silva kept it standing it would've been favorable (similar to the Arlovski vs Fedor fight minus the flash KO). I still take Fedor 7 times out of 10.

[jamal99]

If Fedor took AS to the ground, AS would get worked worse than Nog did. If Silva kept it standing it would've been favorable (similar to the Arlovski vs Fedor fight minus the flash KO). I still take Fedor 7 times out of 10.
Something like that. If they go to the ground it's game over, Silva would have a bit of an advantage in standup due to quickness and length, but strength difference would probably be too much for Silva to handle...

[gigantes]

the real story is not that silva is out until january, but just how much of a f-cking clown-circus the whole hearing was. for example... (http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/8/13/9150529/five-things-we-learned-from-anderson-silvas-bizarre-nevada-athletic)

[quote]1. This was an absurd, hilarious moment in combat sports.

This was worth the cost of an entire year of Fight Pass alone. For the sad souls who had the misfortune of not catching it live, it goes like this. The commission uses a speakerphone to interview witnesses or sports officials who need to testify in some capacity, and let the media call in to hear them speak. The speakerphone can be heard from the commissioner's microphone in the room. It's difficult to mute everyone when interviewing someone on the phone, so someone (or many) figured out how to call in and play music while the hearing was being conducted. The choices ranged from Shaggy's 'It Wasn't Me' or 2 Live Crew's 'Me So Horny' to Salt N' Pepa's 'Let's Talk About Sex'. There were others, but you get the idea. All of it was timed perfectly and served as quite a bit more than comic relief, but commentary on the event.

The NAC fashions itself as the Adults In The Room, deeply-concerned chin strokers who parade their patriarchal sense of knowing what's best for everyone in the most overly serious, moralizing of ways. Their job is important, but their sense of entitlement is outrageous. If their proceedings call out for anything, it's pranksters who aren't required to buy into their brand of enforcement, preferring to liven up the atmosphere instead. These heroic phone DJs seemed to have an uncanny sense for picking sexualized, recognizable songs that thematically matched the proceedings, all of it serving as the perfect antidote to furrowed brows and finger waging from the commission.

2. It's better to just admit guilt, maybe even if you're not guilty.

Silva did admit guilt when it came to taking anti-anxiety medication, but essentially wanted either leniency or clemency when it came to being caught taking a sexual performance enhancement product his Brazilian friend procured in Thailand. I am not making this up. Either because he didn't know what he was taking or didn't realize it'd be problematic in some capacity or whatever the case, Silva and his team tried to argue there were extenuating circumstances. That they did it so clumsily (more on this in a minute) didn't help their cause, but neither was the attempt at pushback at all.

If the NAC values anything, it's genuflection before their might. Two boxers on the docket at Thursday's hearing prior to Silva essentially accepted blame and walked off with sentences as light as seven months. Silva, by contrast, tried to argue there was basically more to the story or that the state of Nevada didn't always follow proper procedure. None of that worked. It possibly made things even worse and in the process, apparent details of Silva's sexual life were laid bare for the world to see. It is extremely difficult to imagine how confession of wrongdoing, even in the case where you haven't committed it but can't prove otherwise, isn't the better option to take.

3. Anderson Silva's attempt at defending himself was remarkably bad.

When the NAC is running circles around your defense, underscoring inconsistencies, highlighting your na