Why would Donald Trump be a good President?

[TripleA]

So Trump stans how would he help better our great nation more than someone like Kasich, Carson, Bush, Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Fiorina ,etc?

[UK2K]

I'm probably voting for Carson myself.

I like Trumps values, but he doesn't have the demeanor to win the nomination.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Because he is white

[masonanddixon]

He wouldn't be a good president, but he'd be the most honest of all the shitty current candidates.

I personally think Nader should get the nod, but people just aren't intelligent enough to vote him in.

[TripleA]

Because he is white

Your on to something.:lebronamazed:

[9erempiree]

So Trump stans how would he help better our great nation more than someone like Kasich, Carson, Bush, Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Fiorina ,etc?

To be quite honest, Trump could do no worse than real politicians. Look how bad our country is right now and with Trump winning nomination I don't see how he can screw it up.

Surely, he can get shit done. The filerbusters would be called out by Trump.

[masonanddixon]

To be quite honest, Trump could do no worse than real politicians. Look how bad our country is right now and with Trump winning nomination I don't see how he can screw it up.

Surely, he can get shit done. The filerbusters would be called out by Trump.

lol it's amazing, Obama has set the bar so damn low that even an imbecile like Trump looks like the prophet.

[SpecialQue]

He would be an atrocious president because more than anything else the president is a figurehead and representation of this country. Presidents have to be EXTREMELY careful on what they say. Hell, even Bush Jr. followed a script and chose his words carefully. This nigguh Trump would have us in a war a week into his term. :lol

[VeeCee15]

trump is proven and has ran/managed a giant company..has leadership ability

other politicians either sucked d1ck to the top, lied to the top, or was born a bush or clinton. These people have no proven track record..to get things done or to lead.

He is also the BEST negotiator by far...everything is a deal. everything you do as a president is a deal. He will right the economy for sure and is best able to do that job.

[SpecialQue]

trump is proven and has ran/managed a giant company..has leadership ability

other politicians either sucked d1ck to the top, lied to the top, or was born a bush or clinton. These people have no proven track record..to get things done or to lead.

He is also the BEST negotiator by far...everything is a deal. everything you do as a president is a deal. He will right the economy for sure and is best able to do that job.

Is that why four of his companies have filed for bankruptcy?

[TripleA]

trump is proven and has ran/managed a giant company..has leadership ability

other politicians either sucked d1ck to the top, lied to the top, or was born a bush or clinton. These people have no proven track record..to get things done or to lead.

He is also the BEST negotiator by far...everything is a deal. everything you do as a president is a deal. He will right the economy for sure and is best able to do that job.

Donald Trump was born to real estate tycoon. While Ben Carson was also successful in his respective fields. Businesses do not work like national economies. Trump has also laid off thousands of workers with his bankruptcies..

[DonDadda59]

trump is proven and has ran/managed a giant company..has leadership ability

other politicians either sucked d1ck to the top, lied to the top, or was born a bush or clinton. These people have no proven track record..to get things done or to lead.

He is also the BEST negotiator by far...everything is a deal. everything you do as a president is a deal. He will right the economy for sure and is best able to do that job.

And The Donald is the classic rags to riches story? :roll:

If America needs advice on how to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy like Trump's businesses have multiple times, then call the Donald. Otherwise, he'd just be a National embarrassment.

[SpecialQue]

And The Donald is the classic rags to riches story? :roll:

If America needs advice on how to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy like Trump's businesses have multiple times, then call the Donald. Otherwise, he'd just be a National embarrassment.

I'm astonished at how many Trump fans don't even know these basic facts about him.

[KNOW1EDGE]

It doesn't even matter who the president is. They barely control anything (unless they are like Obama and just blatantly break the law)

All presidents suck. Humanity sucks.

We need a game changer. His name is Donald

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Ben Carson has a great story from surviving the "Ghetto" and doing stuff in medicine that most doctors dream of. Dude's incredibly intelligent and hardworking but I don't think transitioning to politics isn't the greatest move.

[TripleA]

It doesn't even matter who the president is. They barely control anything (unless they are like Obama and just blatantly break the law)



True most presidents have very little power. Especially in republican regimes
were states rights is a important thing.

[9erempiree]

And The Donald is the classic rags to riches story? :roll:

If America needs advice on how to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy like Trump's businesses have multiple times, then call the Donald. Otherwise, he'd just be a National embarrassment.

Except that filing for Chapter 11 is a beneficiary to a business person. While the general public thinks 'bankruptcy' is a bad thing, it is not, the businessmen of the nation, whether rich or not, knows that bankruptcy is a business savvy move than negativity.

I don't expect you guys that are not in finance/accounting to understand though.

[TripleA]

Except that filing for Chapter 11 is a beneficiary to a business person. While the general public thinks 'bankruptcy' is a bad thing, it is not, the businessmen of the nation, whether rich or not, knows that bankruptcy is a business savvy move than negativity.

I don't expect you guys that are not in finance/accounting to understand though.

Yeah but it also screws over his employees.

[9erempiree]

Yeah but it also screws over his employees.

Tough shit. That's life.

You expect him to lose money to feed others? That's not how it works. He has to protect his own interest. They should be thankful he gave them a job. He is still above water n regards to jobs created vs loss.

[TripleA]

Tough shit. That's life.

You expect him to lose money to feed others? That's not how it works. He has to protect his own interest. They should be thankful he gave them a job. He is still above water n regards to jobs created vs loss.

Presidential attitude right there.

[9erempiree]

Presidential attitude right there.

Leadership.

Some will have to sacrifice for the betterment of the entire group.

[KingBeasley08]

Real talk I would vote Obama again if he could run one more term. He'd easily win too. All the candidates are ass this year

Hopefully Biden gets in the race. I'd vote for him. Establishment enough that he can shit done, progressive enough to pursue good policies, and a continuation of the Obama administration :rockon:

[KingBeasley08]

Also Trump might actually win the nomination. He's in it to win it right now. I still don't see him becoming President but who knows


We might get Bernie Sanders vs. Donald Trump :lol

[DonDadda59]

Except that filing for Chapter 11 is a beneficiary to a business person. While the general public thinks 'bankruptcy' is a bad thing, it is not, the businessmen of the nation, whether rich or not, knows that bankruptcy is a business savvy move than negativity.

I don't expect you guys that are not in finance/accounting to understand though.

:lol

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[Kungfro]

Leadership.

Some will have to sacrifice for the betterment of the entire group.
So you're saying minorities should sacrifice to benefit other people. Yea that's a good model, he should run that as his campaign slogan.

[KingBeasley08]

How the fck do you lose money on a casino? This nikka :wtf:


What if Trump runs as a third party candidate doe... shit would get real fast

[9erempiree]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]:lol

[INDENT][B][COLOR="Red"]Trump

[Droid101]

Carly F. almost ruined HP when she was CEO. What's with the R's and failed businesspeople running for prez?

[9erempiree]

How the fck do you lose money on a casino? This nikka :wtf:


Easy.

The casino business is an entertainment business where they make money off of people's disposable income. In tough economic times, you are not going to see people gambling their money away or spending money at his resort/casinos.

Plus, factor in the huge operating cost to run the place, then you have to get out.

It's a actually a risky business but a lot of them are owned by the same entity and they can allocate their costs and profits. The Caesar Entertainment Group owns multiple casinos if I am not mistaken.

[SpecialQue]

:facepalm

Thank you Mr. Obvious. Chapter 11 involves reorganization of a corporation and its no surprise that Trump, like many have, have to leave its board.

Wow.

[DonDadda59]

:facepalm

Thank you Mr. Obvious. Chapter 11 involves reorganization of a corporation and its no surprise that Trump, like many have, have to leave its board.

Trump da business genius. Filing for bankruptcy 4 times, defaulting on loans, losing control of his own businesses. Just the sort of business savvy America needs :applause:

[Trollsmasher]

he would make America great again

if you are against Trump, you are against that

[Droid101]

http://i.imgur.com/sjDOsX0.jpg

[Lensanity]

Bernie is the game changer we need. Donald fires everyone who disagrees with him or gets upset at him. Not President material.

[DonDadda59]

^The Great Wall of America, coming in 2017. Paid for by Mexico after the U.S. defaults on the loan and files for chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Genius :bowdown:

[TripleA]

^The Great Wall of America, coming in 2017. Paid for by Mexico after the U.S. defaults on the loan and files for chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Genius :bowdown:

If the U.S files bankruptcy no more debt.
Trump is a genius.:bowdown:

[Trollsmasher]

Bernie is the game changer we need. Donald fires everyone who disagrees with him or gets upset at him. Not President material.
and socialists send those who disagree into uranium mines

beware of Sanders I say

[Godzuki]

filing bankruptcy is a business strategy. 50 cent ain't broke, i'm sure he still has tens of millions, but he's filing bankruptcy to clear his debt. he knows his name is bigger than his paper credit rating. so even if his credit becomes shot, he'll still be able to borrow from somebody based on who he is. same applies to Trump.

Trump turned the MissUSA pageant from a failing show to a billion dollar event when he took it over.

Trump was hugely successful with the Apprentice which ran for 14 seasons on prime TV spots.

Trump has very successful golf courses and resorts.

Nobody has made their name bigger or more recognized in American real estate.

We will never beat China with some lawful, high horse fgt who is unwilling to play dirty like Obama or Bernie Sanders. China manipulates everything within the boundaries of legal for advantages, and it takes someone who will play as dirty to beat them at their game. someone who knows how to game the business system and win. no goody good fgt will beat China's dirty tactics.

Trump4Prez :bowdown:

[ThePhantomCreep]

LMAO

[Patrick Chewing]

Ben Carson has a great story from surviving the "Ghetto" and doing stuff in medicine that most doctors dream of. Dude's incredibly intelligent and hardworking but I don't think transitioning to politics isn't the greatest move.


Blacks in this country deserve a second chance. Obama has failed them miserably.

Calling every black boy your son doesn't quite motivate black youth to get out of the ghetto.

[Patrick Chewing]

Bernie is the game changer we need. Donald fires everyone who disagrees with him or gets upset at him. Not President material.


I can't wait to see Bernie speaking at the State of the Union and getting bumped off the mic by some protestors.

[Smoke117]

You f@ggots vote...hilarious. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SpecialQue]

You f@ggots vote...hilarious. :roll: :roll: :roll:

I don't know why I found this as funny as I did. :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

The trolls on this site that support him do so because he's the closest thing they'll ever see to validation of their behavior. They see him acting like a bigot and (I will admit, hilariously) giving verbal thrashings to guys like Rand Paul and Rick Perry and he's basically become their trollmodel. So if he ever got to be President acting like this they would see it as proof that what their doing matters.

Unfortunately for them an overwhelming majority of the voting public would never vote for Trump. Because there are 17 Republican candidates taking 18-23% of the Republican support makes Trump the most powerful figure in the Republican party at this moment. And on the strength of his celebrity we are being forced to consider him winning the Republican nomination as a real possibility (I would still bet against him but I can't guess who it is that will overtake him). That is of course a nightmare to the people that have been running the Republican Party because they know that while the bigot sector of the Republican base loves him the things those bigots like about him are the same things that will make sure 2/3rds of the country vote against him.

"I'll make Mexico pay for the fence" is such a dumb line that frankly I don't believe even Trump believes it. Anyone that thinks that's possible really shouldn't even be allowed to vote. But our trolling twits just say, "that's alpha!" No, that's Alpo and you need to stop eating it. Making wild claims and talking shit about people doesn't make you a great leader, it makes you an asshole with a loud mouth. Mexico is going to pay for a fence that we want built and they have no interest in? Really? The hispanic population is going to support a man that calls their undocumented family and friends murderers and rapists? Really? A man that talks about how a woman has "blood coming out of her..." is going to get the female vote? Really?

The only thing Trump can do is kill any hope the Republican party has of winning the Presidency in 2016. Either by winning the nomination with his unelectable self or by taking a double-digit percentage of the Republican vote away from their nominee by grabbing the dumbest of the bigots.

Frankly I suspect that when he called Bill Clinton before deciding to enter the race they hatched a plot to ensure Hillary Clinton becomes the next President. After all, we're talking about a man that has in the past supported single-payer universal healthcare, a woman's right to choose, said Democrats were better for the economy and has donated money to the Clintons...but he changed his mind on all that because he thinks Obama's birth certificate is a forgery?

Trolls are getting trolled.

[Godzuki]

The trolls on this site that support him do so because he's the closest thing they'll ever see to validation of their behavior. They see him acting like a bigot and (I will admit, hilariously) giving verbal thrashings to guys like Rand Paul and Rick Perry and he's basically become their trollmodel. So if he ever got to be President acting like this they would see it as proof that what their doing matters.

Unfortunately for them an overwhelming majority of the voting public would never vote for Trump. Because there are 17 Republican candidates taking 18-23% of the Republican support makes Trump the most powerful figure in the Republican party at this moment. And on the strength of his celebrity we are being forced to consider him winning the Republican nomination as a real possibility (I would still bet against him but I can't guess who it is that will overtake him). That is of course a nightmare to the people that have been running the Republican Party because they know that while the bigot sector of the Republican base loves him the things those bigots like about him are the same things that will make sure 2/3rds of the country vote against him.

"I'll make Mexico pay for the fence" is such a dumb line that frankly I don't believe even Trump believes it. Anyone that thinks that's possible really shouldn't even be allowed to vote. But our trolling twits just say, "that's alpha!" No, that's Alpo and you need to stop eating it. Making wild claims and talking shit about people doesn't make you a great leader, it makes you an asshole with a loud mouth. Mexico is going to pay for a fence that we want built and they have no interest in? Really? The hispanic population is going to support a man that calls their undocumented family and friends murderers and rapists? Really? A man that talks about how a woman has "blood coming out of her..." is going to get the female vote? Really?

The only thing Trump can do is kill any hope the Republican party has of winning the Presidency in 2016. Either by winning the nomination with his unelectable self or by taking a double-digit percentage of the Republican vote away from their nominee by grabbing the dumbest of the bigots.

Frankly I suspect that when he called Bill Clinton before deciding to enter the race they hatched a plot to ensure Hillary Clinton becomes the next President. After all, we're talking about a man that has in the past supported single-payer universal healthcare, a woman's right to choose, said Democrats were better for the economy and has donated money to the Clintons...but he changed his mind on all that because he thinks Obama's birth certificate is a forgery?

Trolls are getting trolled.


tldr :sleeping

Trump4Prez :bowdown:

[Patrick Chewing]

In other words, RMWG is supporting Hillary.


Glad we squared that away. Whew.

[Real Men Wear Green]

tldr :sleeping

Trump4Prez :bowdown:
You never do have a real rebuttal. At least this time you admit it. YTDDR: You're Too Dumb Don't Respond.

[Real Men Wear Green]

In other words, RMWG is supporting Hillary.


Glad we squared that away. Whew.
Actually I prefer Sanders but am working on a superpac to draft Vladimir Lenin.

[KevinNYC]

Surely, he can get shit done. The filerbusters would be called out by Trump.
And that would affect filibusters how?

[KevinNYC]

or was born a bush or clinton.:roll:

Yes, Bill Clinton was born a Clinton. That meant nothing before 1991.

Who else was born a Clinton?

[Real Men Wear Green]

And that would affect filibusters how?Be serious. You will never stop Trump with a filerbuster.

[KNOW1EDGE]

RMWG is the same guy who swears the Pats have never cheated. Def a sharp guy.

[Real Men Wear Green]

RMWG is the same guy who swears the Pats have never cheated. Def a sharp guy.
Please point out where I said the Pats never cheated.

[Real Men Wear Green]

RMWG is the same guy who swears the Pats have never cheated. Def a sharp guy.
My first post in the Deflategate thread. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10944177&postcount=70)
As a Pats fan I'm not as badly torn over this as some may expect me to be when I acknowledge the fact that they are cheaters and I expect they have cheated in minor and/or major ways for as long as Belichick has been here. Just for anyone that cares about facts.

[Patrick Chewing]

I will be announcing my pick for President very soon. I know you'll all be interested.

However, Chris Christie said something very interesting today. You can't fire the Speaker of the House. You can't fire most people in Washington. He of course was referring to Donald Trump.

[Derka]

He wouldn't be a good president, but a large percentage of my fellow Americans are soft, gullible and in love with celebrity culture...especially if you're a bloviating, loudmouthed dimwit who will grab whatever mic is near and say the first absurd thing that comes to mind and keeps your paying customers paying.

[Lakers Legend#32]

ONLY reason is that we would have a super model First Lady.

[dude77]

President Elect Donald J. Trump .. get ready bitches! .. the meltdowns will be epic .. and yes, he would become the president with the hottest first lady to date

[Trollsmasher]

The trolls on this site that support him do so because he's the closest thing they'll ever see to validation of their behavior. They see him acting like a bigot and (I will admit, hilariously) giving verbal thrashings to guys like Rand Paul and Rick Perry and he's basically become their trollmodel. So if he ever got to be President acting like this they would see it as proof that what their doing matters.

Unfortunately for them an overwhelming majority of the voting public would never vote for Trump. Because there are 17 Republican candidates taking 18-23% of the Republican support makes Trump the most powerful figure in the Republican party at this moment. And on the strength of his celebrity we are being forced to consider him winning the Republican nomination as a real possibility (I would still bet against him but I can't guess who it is that will overtake him). That is of course a nightmare to the people that have been running the Republican Party because they know that while the bigot sector of the Republican base loves him the things those bigots like about him are the same things that will make sure 2/3rds of the country vote against him.

"I'll make Mexico pay for the fence" is such a dumb line that frankly I don't believe even Trump believes it. Anyone that thinks that's possible really shouldn't even be allowed to vote. But our trolling twits just say, "that's alpha!" No, that's Alpo and you need to stop eating it. Making wild claims and talking shit about people doesn't make you a great leader, it makes you an asshole with a loud mouth. Mexico is going to pay for a fence that we want built and they have no interest in? Really? The hispanic population is going to support a man that calls their undocumented family and friends murderers and rapists? Really? A man that talks about how a woman has "blood coming out of her..." is going to get the female vote? Really?

The only thing Trump can do is kill any hope the Republican party has of winning the Presidency in 2016. Either by winning the nomination with his unelectable self or by taking a double-digit percentage of the Republican vote away from their nominee by grabbing the dumbest of the bigots.

Frankly I suspect that when he called Bill Clinton before deciding to enter the race they hatched a plot to ensure Hillary Clinton becomes the next President. After all, we're talking about a man that has in the past supported single-payer universal healthcare, a woman's right to choose, said Democrats were better for the economy and has donated money to the Clintons...but he changed his mind on all that because he thinks Obama's birth certificate is a forgery?

Trolls are getting trolled.
*they're

[TheMan]

tldr :sleeping

Trump4Prez :bowdown:
Knowing that Godzuki and dude77 are staunch Trump supporters only confirms the fact that Trump's base are full of idiots or trolls :oldlol:

[KevinNYC]

Knowing that Godzuki and dude77 are staunch Trump supporters only confirms the fact that Trump's base are full of idiots or trolls :oldlol:
Trolls4Trump
2016

[UK2K]

He wouldn't be a good president, but a large percentage of my fellow Americans are soft, gullible and in love with celebrity culture...especially if you're a bloviating, loudmouthed dimwit who will grab whatever mic is near and say the first absurd thing that comes to mind and keeps your paying customers paying.
That would be the BLM activists. Remember that scene at the Bernie rally this week?

[Derka]

That would be the BLM activists. Remember that scene at the Bernie rally this week?

I do. Doesn't really disqualify Trump from that description, however.

[DukeDelonte13]

Real talk I would vote Obama again if he could run one more term. He'd easily win too. All the candidates are ass this year

Hopefully Biden gets in the race. I'd vote for him. Establishment enough that he can shit done, progressive enough to pursue good policies, and a continuation of the Obama administration :rockon:


Real talk.

[UK2K]

I do. Doesn't really disqualify Trump from that description, however.

I think one of the most appealing things about him is his lack of a 'script' so to speak.

I watched a speech of his yesterday, guy just stands there and talks like he's talking to you or me in a sports bar.

Some of the stuff he says is kinda oddball, but he's the anti-politicians politician. I love it.

[Derka]

I think one of the most appealing things about him is his lack of a 'script' so to speak.

I watched a speech of his yesterday, guy just stands there and talks like he's talking to you or me in a sports bar.

Some of the stuff he says is kinda oddball, but he's the anti-politicians politician. I love it.

He's not a politician at all...at least not right now. Its a lot easier to not be a politician 15 months before anyone is casting a vote. At some point, he's going to have to actually come up with policy ideas and he's going to have to sell them to voters with something far more comprehensive than "I'm going to make Mexico pay for a wall." At some point, if he's serious about this, he's going to have to utter that most politician of phrases: "I will work with Congress to blah blah blah."

Personally, I don't think he'll get that far...and I think that's his plan. I think he's happy to go as far as "shouting at the top of my lungs and being as crass as possible" will carry him (again, Americans love a brash, outspoken person and will willingly follow him no matter how much of an asshole he/she is). He gets a bump in brand recognition and he'll have more willing shoppers and consumers for whatever it is he tries to sell after this. That might be cynical of me but when it comes to Trump, I think that cynicism is well founded.

[Godzuki]

Knowing that Godzuki and dude77 are staunch Trump supporters only confirms the fact that Trump's base are full of idiots or trolls :oldlol:


coming from the biggest sheep think fgts on the planet who follow every mainstream PC movement and most of y'all mfer's dont follow shit other than NBA thats funny :oldlol:

y'all are like rappers, dwights, and rihanna's, lowest IQ voters on the planet. whatever benefits YOU only and your lame feel sorry for yourself made up oppression you'll run with, never mind the bigger picture.

now you're all on the Bernie bandwagon just like the Change one that didn't change shit. keep following the herd, its easier not to have to think for yourself at all Bernie following wimps :applause:

[KingBeasley08]

Trump is actually one of the more liberal Republicans running. Makes all his support even funnier :lol

[TheMan]

Trump is actually one of the more liberal Republicans running. Makes all his support even funnier :lol
And his staunchest supporters seem to be the most right wing, xenophobic and racist elements of the GOP, he's trolling the fvck out of them and they're taking it hook, line and sinker :oldlol:

[UK2K]

And his staunchest supporters seem to be the most right wing, xenophobic and racist elements of the GOP, he's trolling the fvck out of them and they're taking it hook, line and sinker :oldlol:

Buzzword. How many points did you get? Do you have a quota?

:lol

[Derka]

And his staunchest supporters seem to be the most right wing, xenophobic and racist elements of the GOP, he's trolling the fvck out of them and they're taking it hook, line and sinker :oldlol:
Which is what makes me wonder just what the hell the GOP is going to do. Suppose Trump drops to a 3rd party candidacy...or just plain drops out of the race altogether. Who can they possibly offer up to unite the party behind in November in the wake of Donald slashing and burning the right wing?

[KNOW1EDGE]

Why does it make people racist if they plan to vote for Trump if he makes it that far?

FYI people aren't voting for Trump because of his skin color like they did with Obama.

[Godzuki]

Trump is actually one of the more liberal Republicans running. Makes all his support even funnier :lol


how is he liberal :wtf:

if he were liberal maybe there'd actually be a liberal that didn't think he was completely insane? this board is full of liberals, how the hell does he appeal to any of them? :biggums:

thing is he's nowhere near as bad far right as liberals think. he is pandering to the far right with the social issues shit. he doesn't care much about pro choice vs life, gay marriage, and shit like that. he cares about real shit like our economy, our borders, china, ISIS, etc.

if Trump goes independent expect him to go more left on social issues and less religious morality.

its the bernie sanders sheep who follow the herd on all of that PC garbage like they did Obama, its really the same crowd they're sharing. weak leaders who have no balls to negotiate with and get us awful deals. bernie is even more a poohsee than Obama, since i don't even think Obama would let anyone hijack his podium. i can't even emphasize how weak u have to be to allow that to happen in front of thousands of people who came to see you :coleman:

[Lensanity]

#FeelTheBern

[Godzuki]

oh and i keep forgetting that Bernie Sanders mf'er goes and hires someone from the very same movement that hijacked your podium :roll: :roll: :roll:

can u be more of a PC poohsee? seriously?

its like someone punching u in the face for no reason and then thanking them for it by hooking them up with your sister because you're scared.

how the fukk can u vote for someone that weak? u should be ashamed of yourselves :facepalm

[longtime lurker]

Knowing that Godzuki and dude77 are staunch Trump supporters only confirms the fact that Trump's base are full of idiots or trolls :oldlol:

So true. I used to think that Godzuki posts like he doesn't have a high school education. Now I'm convinced he doesn't have an elementary school education. These are the type of linear thinking simpletons that Trump appeals to

[RidonKs]

the truth is that a donald trump administration would be idiocracy come true and the last nail in the coffin of the american empire

[Godzuki]

So true. I used to think that Godzuki posts like he doesn't have a high school education. Now I'm convinced he doesn't have an elementary school education. These are the type of linear thinking simpletons that Trump appeals to


oh please, i'm one of the smartest mf'ers on this forum and follow more grown up shit than almost every fake smart guy here.

meanwhile you're the resident reverse racist, feel sorry for yourself agenda driven fgt. u and that other dude i always forget the name of....

funny how the people who pretend to talk about intelligence are usually the ones who have the lowest :lol

keep following those mainstream PC movements, you're the sheep of america :applause:

[Godzuki]

the truth is that a donald trump administration would be idiocracy come true and the last nail in the coffin of the american empire


trump couldn't possibly do anything worse than his predecessors have. be specific, what could he do that would be so bad? stop illegals? actually stand up to China's economic manipulations? cut off ISIS's ability to make money? :confusedshrug:

what would be sooo bad that would be the end of america? :coleman:

[longtime lurker]

the truth is that a donald trump administration would be idiocracy come true and the last nail in the coffin of the american empire

If Trump wins the election over Bernie Sanders, then Americans get the president that they deserve. If he wins over Hilary, then they were screwed regardless of the choice.


oh please, i'm one of the smartest mf'ers on this forum and follow more grown up shit than almost every fake smart guy here.

meanwhile you're the resident reverse racist, feel sorry for yourself agenda driven fgt. u and that other dude i always forget the name of....

funny how the people who pretend to talk about intelligence are usually the ones who have the lowest

keep following those mainstream PC movements, you're the sheep of america

http://replygif.net/i/980.gif

People who claim they're one of the smartest posters on an internet forum are obviously compensating for their lack of intelligence in real life. All your posts are the same stupid garbage. You'll talk about PC, fagts, liberals, talk like a wanna be gangster and just post the literally the same reply over and over again. You don't even form coherent thoughts, much less your own thoughts.

[Godzuki]

If Trump wins the election over Bernie Sanders, then Americans get the president that they deserve. If he wins over Hilary, then they were screwed regardless of the choice.



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People who claim they're one of the smartest posters on an internet forum are obviously compensating for their lack of intelligence in real life. All your posts are the same stupid garbage. You'll talk about PC, fagts, liberals, talk like a wanna be gangster and just post the literally the same reply over and over again. You don't even form coherent thoughts, much less your own thoughts.


all u are is a lame race card playing fgt. thats all u ever do. the day u actually give a decent argument without using the race card is the day u might stop being a racist.

i make a good argument for everything i support. i dare u to post any stance i've taken without a legit argument :pimp:

i am well versed in current events,, stocks, business, fighting, movies, and pretty much everything imaginable :bowdown:

you're a one trick race card playing pony. and y'all are wearing the fukk out of that to the point people, even liberals, are taking y'all less seriously. tell me i'm lying :coleman:

[Godzuki]

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/08/14/0814-herschel-walker-donald-trump-tmz-4.jpg


Donald Trump's campaign has a new, powerful ally -- football legend Herschel Walker is backing his ex-boss because of two words -- unpolished and trustworthy.

Walker knows The Donald well ... he was a contestant on "Celebrity Apprentice" and toted the rock for the New Jersey Generals -- Trump's USFL team -- back in the '80s.

He tells TMZ Sports he has no issues with Trump's incendiary straight talk because ..."I'm tired of politicians. I'm tired of promises. I know Donald will keep his word. He'll do what he says."

As for Trump's more controversial remarks -- Megyn Kelly and Mexicans -- Herschel thinks he does need to clarify a few things, but adds, "I guarantee his plan is not to deport everyone. If you're good, there will be a path to citizenship."

Walker adds, "He's not a polished politician and I hope he doesn't become one."

For now, he's stopping short of pledging his vote to Trump -- he's got an eye on Ben Carson, too -- but he's buying in to Donald's slogan, "Make America Great Again."

"We're the best country in the world. It's why everyone wants to come here. We have to make sure we stay the best country."


Trump4Prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[longtime lurker]

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/08/14/0814-herschel-walker-donald-trump-tmz-4.jpg


Donald Trump's campaign has a new, powerful ally -- football legend Herschel Walker is backing his ex-boss because of two words -- unpolished and trustworthy.

Walker knows The Donald well ... he was a contestant on "Celebrity Apprentice" and toted the rock for the New Jersey Generals -- Trump's USFL team -- back in the '80s.

He tells TMZ Sports he has no issues with Trump's incendiary straight talk because ..."I'm tired of politicians. I'm tired of promises. I know Donald will keep his word. He'll do what he says."

As for Trump's more controversial remarks -- Megyn Kelly and Mexicans -- Herschel thinks he does need to clarify a few things, but adds, "I guarantee his plan is not to deport everyone. If you're good, there will be a path to citizenship."

Walker adds, "He's not a polished politician and I hope he doesn't become one."

For now, he's stopping short of pledging his vote to Trump -- he's got an eye on Ben Carson, too -- but he's buying in to Donald's slogan, "Make America Great Again."

"We're the best country in the world. It's why everyone wants to come here. We have to make sure we stay the best country."


Trump4Prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

What's Donald Trump's platform besides "build a wall and make the Mexicans pay for it"

[NumberSix]

If Trump wins the election over Bernie Sanders, then Americans get the president that they deserve. If he wins over Hilary, then they were screwed regardless of the choice.
I would vote for Obama to be allowed to have a 3rd and 4th term before I would for for an irrational, head in the clouds communist like Bernie Sanders.

After 8 years of Bernie Sanders, the United States debt would be AT LEAST doubled.

[masonanddixon]

the truth is that a donald trump administration would be idiocracy come true and the last nail in the coffin of the american empire

No thats Obama. Trumps just panders.

[imnew09]

Not gonna lie, heard Trump's press today and he seems really intellectual on fixing the economy. He discussed about corporate inversion man that's the first time I'm hearing about it from a candidate.

[Godzuki]

Not gonna lie, heard Trump's press today and he seems really intellectual on fixing the economy. He discussed about corporate inversion man that's the first time I'm hearing about it from a candidate.


the haters have been underestimating Trump from the start. especially the sheep like liberals riding hillary and now poohsee ass bernie's bandwagons.

[kurple]

Not gonna lie, heard Trump's press today and he seems really intellectual on fixing the economy. He discussed about corporate inversion man that's the first time I'm hearing about it from a candidate.
the american economy wont be fixed any time soon

world war 3 will probably happen before that

[Lensanity]

I don't understand how Hillary is so high in the polls. Is it just me, or does absolutely EVERYONE hate her? I don't know anyone that is voting for her and I never ever hear anyone of internet forums ever speak well of her. Meanwhile, Bernie has a cult following. I know her name is bigger but is she really that far ahead of him?

[UK2K]

the american economy wont be fixed any time soon

world war 3 will probably happen before that

We start scaling back a little defense and a little welfare (as in work for your handouts) and the deficit will be cut sooner than you think.

The downside is, lazy people will not be happy.

http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/policybasics-wheretaxdollarsgo-f1.png

Nearly 10% of our budget is just interest. How stupid are we? :lol

[UK2K]

I don't understand how Hillary is so high in the polls. Is it just me, or does absolutely EVERYONE hate her? I don't know anyone that is voting for her and I never ever hear anyone of internet forums ever speak well of her. Meanwhile, Bernie has a cult following. I know her name is bigger but is she really that far ahead of him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf7MR0f4XDI

Cause people are truly, THAT stupid.

And she has a vag, which automatically makes her qualified to be president somehow.

[Lensanity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf7MR0f4XDI

Cause people are truly, THAT stupid.

And she has a vag, which automatically makes her qualified to be president somehow.


Interesting, because every woman I know hates her lol

Her gender won't make anywhere near as big of a difference as Obamas race did. But then again all the Nazianz feminists will surely bow down for her campaign.

[KevinNYC]

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Nearly 10% of our budget is just interest. How stupid are we? :lol

7% is not "nearly 10%."

10% is 42% higher than 10%.


a seventy thousand dollar car is not close to $100,000.

In answer to your question, less stupid than we used to be? Interest was over 14% in the last year of G. H. W. Bush administration back in 1992.

[longhornfan1234]

Warren needs to join the race now and attack. Now is a perfect time for her. Hilary is weak right now, and Sanders stands no chance against her. Only Biden with Obama's endorsement could beat Warren in Democratic primaries.


Warren vs Rand would be nice.

[iamgine]

He wouldn't be, but neither would the rest of them. At least with Trump there will be a lot of entertainment.

[UK2K]

7% is not "nearly 10%."

10% is 42% higher than 10%.


a seventy thousand dollar car is not close to $100,000.

In answer to your question, less stupid than we used to be? Interest was over 14% in the last year of G. H. W. Bush administration back in 1992.

7% of a 100% budget is 'nearly 10%'. Just like 97% is nearly 100%. Or 47% is nearly 50%. Or 1% is nearly 4%.

Source? Partially because I don't believe you, but partially because I want to see how the interest was 14% back then when our debt was a fraction of what it is now.

[TripleA]

Hilary Clinton is very shady while being queen of political correctness,while Bernie Sander is a socialist, Joe Biden = Obama 2.0. Have I got it right guys?

[Jailblazers7]

7% of a 100% budget is 'nearly 10%'. Just like 97% is nearly 100%. Or 47% is nearly 50%. Or 1% is nearly 4%.

Source? Partially because I don't believe you, but partially because I want to see how the interest was 14% back then when our debt was a fraction of what it is now.

In what world is 1% nearly 4%? :oldlol:

It makes a difference between 7% & 10% because that is a 43% increase while a jump from 47% to 50% is a 6% increase.

[KevinNYC]

7% of a 100% budget is 'nearly 10%'. Just like 97% is nearly 100%. Or 47% is nearly 50%. Or 1% is nearly 4%.
Incorrect.

1% is not nearly 4% and that is the point I'm making.

If something goes from 97% to 100% it's a less dramatic increase than going from 1% to 4%.


Source? Partially because I don't believe you, but partially because I want to see how the interest was 14% back then when our debt was a fraction of what it is now.
My calculation was that interest was 14.4% of outlays in 1991 based on the chart I was reading. That bold part is important as we shall see. Looking that up now, I see this page which has it at 14%. (http://federal-budget.insidegov.com/l/94/1991) It may be rounding down. Either way my point stands as interest is 6.6% of outlays today.
As for spending on net interest, the government dedicated about 14% of all its outlays that year to paying down its accumulated debt.
There are two reasons it's only 7% of outlays now.

One is the cost of borrowing came down. The debt of the 80's and 90's was more expensive than the debt of today.

Interest rates were a lot, lot higher during the 1980's which corresponded to the time when our debt took off. You could earn 15% on a US treasury note during the recession of 1982. So by 1992 we piled up a lot of high price debt that led to, among other things, Ross Perot's succesful third party run and Clinton's debt reduction package and this great quote

You mean to tell me that the success of the economic program and my re-election hinges on the Federal Reserve and a bunch of ****ing bond traders?
-Bill Clinton 1993
https://www.stlouisfed.org/legacy_assets/publications/re/2014/b/images/credibility_fig2.png

The second reason that interest came down is overall outlays grew. It's a numerator and denominator issue and you need to make the right comparison especially when dealing with massive numbers.

Interest is 252 billion this year (6.6%), if it were 10%, it would be 381 billion. Would you say that 252 billion is nearly 381 billion?

[NumberSix]

the american economy wont be fixed any time soon

world war 3 will probably happen before that
I don't know what you mean by that. The way you "fix" the economy is simple. For the government to get the hell out of it. Other than trade deals, the government should just stay out of it. And Trump is right about how bad the trade deals are. Idiots are making these deals. They're completely lopsided against the United States.

[KevinNYC]

The way you "fix" the economy is simple.

So if this is the criteria, for how long has the US economy been broken.

And which economies are fixed?

[NumberSix]

So if this is the criteria, for how long has the US economy been broken.

And which economies are fixed?
It's not broken. Perhaps "fix" isn't the right word. Civilization itself is a work in progress that is never finished. The US economy is good. But it can be improved.

[KingBeasley08]

It's not broken. Perhaps "fix" isn't the right word. Civilization itself is a work in progress that is never finished. The US economy is good. But it can be improved.
How in particular should the government stay away from the economy? Does that include labor laws or is just stimulus package type ish? Should there be regulation of certain industries like telecom, oil, and food? Trust busting?

Not attacking you btw, just want your two cents

[KevinNYC]

How in particular should the government stay away from the economy? Does that include labor laws or is just stimulus package type ish? Should there be regulation of certain industries like telecom, oil, and food? Trust busting?

Not attacking you btw, just want your two cents
Yeah, I'm a bit a confused by that as well. In my definition of an economy, if I'm a cop or a teacher or guy who fills in potholes, I'm part of the the economy and not separate from it.

[GreggPopazit]

trump is proven and has ran/managed a giant company..has leadership ability



You realize that his company got big by stepping on the little man right? He will push agendas that help him and the rich get richer while not helping people that actually need help. Trump as president will continue to help him, not others.

[Godzuki]

You realize that his company got big by stepping on the little man right? He will push agendas that help him and the rich get richer while not helping people that actually need help. Trump as president will continue to help him, not others.

Trump already said he will stop companies abusing government loopholes. that he knows better than the other politicians how laws are abused by companies and he said he would stop them.

thing about Trump is he doesn't give a fukk about making enemies. he's the type that would gladly fukk all the other company execs over if it made him look good. and Trump as Prez looking good translates to doing great things for the country. you can bet Trump isn't going to be Prez to make other business men richer, more than making himself look good...of which coincides with being a good Prez.

and the sad reality is the other side of that rich vs poor coin is EVERY Dem caters to the poor and lazy to a fault. they want to pretend its always the rich man holding the ghetto and poor down because they pander to them for votes. that goes for bernie flanders especially. all the left does is kiss the ferguson, bmore, etc. rioters asses and pretend its the police, rich peoples, and everyone elses fault for their issues because they're as important to the base of their votes as the religious right is to the right wing candidate votes.

bottom line is Trump can't have ulterior motives running for Prez since he's already rich, becoming Prez is a guaranteed get richer accomplishment just by giviing speeches, and his main objective will be to prove to everyone and especially the critics he is a great Prez because his ego is the main motivator. his whole goal as a Prez coincides with the well being of America. u can't say that about any of the other candidates.

Trump4Prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[dude77]

people are complaining because trump wants to deport illegals .. only in this fkd up, spineless, estrogen oozing country would anyone complain about that

get ready ladies .. it's coming ..


http://www.golfdigest.com/images/magazine/2014-11/maar02-donald-trump-portrait.jpg

[Lensanity]

If Biden becomes president I'm ****ing out

[oarabbus]

If Bernie Sanders doesn't win, I don't even want Hilary to win. I want Trump to win.

Bernie

or

Trump.

That is the only way.

[KevinNYC]

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CD/20130501/BLOG003/130509990/V1/0/V1-130509990.jpg

Finally found someone more hateful than Zimmerman

[KNOW1EDGE]

Finally found someone more hateful than Zimmerman

Dudes avatar went from a child-killer to The Donald.

What's that say about Trump? Lol

[DonDadda59]

http://www.golfdigest.com/images/magazine/2014-11/maar02-donald-trump-portrait.jpg

The Donald looks like a normal sized oompa loompa who likes to stare at the sun.

[Godzuki]

every day that goes by, the more Trump talks, the more Trump dominates the race :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

The survey finds Trump with the support of 24% of Republican registered voters.

His nearest competitor, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, stands 11 points behind at 13%.

Just behind Bush, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson has 9%,

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker 8%, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul 6%, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former tech CEO Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich all land at 5%, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee rounding out the top 10 at 4%.


the ISH liberal media is going to be on suicide watch when Trump gets elected :pimp:

[StephHamann]

the ISH liberal media is going to be on suicide watch when Trump gets elected :pimp:

http://www.nickadamsweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/white-kid-dance-club.gif

[KevinNYC]

Godzuki, do you know what a ceiling of support is?

[KyrieTheFuture]

I don't think you realize all the republicans who aren't trump supporters would rather vote democratic than have that ass clown in office.

[UK2K]

I don't think you realize all the republicans who aren't trump supporters would rather vote democratic than have that ass clown in office.

I don't want Trump in office, but I sure as shit wouldn't vote Democrat.

[NumberSix]

I don't think you realize all the republicans who aren't trump supporters would rather vote democratic than have that ass clown in office.
Not only would I vote for Trump over Bernie Sanders, but I would vote for Sarah Palin over Bernie Sanders.

[UK2K]

Not only would I vote for Trump over Bernie Sanders, but I would vote for Sarah Palin over Bernie Sanders.

I'd vote for the Hamburgular before I voted for Bernie Sanders.

The last thing this country needs is socialism.

[TripleA]

I'd vote for the Hamburgular before I voted for Bernie Sanders.

The last thing this country needs is socialism.

El Chapo over sanders.:bowdown:

[NumberSix]

I'd vote for the Hamburgular before I voted for Bernie Sanders.

The last thing this country needs is socialism.
I would legit agree to 2 more Obama terms over 1 term of Bernie Sanders.

[niko]

every day that goes by, the more Trump talks, the more Trump dominates the race :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

The survey finds Trump with the support of 24% of Republican registered voters.

His nearest competitor, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, stands 11 points behind at 13%.

Just behind Bush, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson has 9%,

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker 8%, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul 6%, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former tech CEO Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich all land at 5%, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee rounding out the top 10 at 4%.


the ISH liberal media is going to be on suicide watch when Trump gets elected :pimp:
He has 24%. That's not exactly imposing.

[Godzuki]

Godzuki, do you know what a ceiling of support is?


they were saying he hit his ceiling after the debate, and how die hard Republicans didn't trust him. the GOP establishment is so afraid of him because he's a maverick to their united right wing cause. they even went so far as to purposely single him out and attack him on stage much more than the other candidates with gotcha questions, then make it seem like all of the Republicans turned on him because he wouldn't commit to the party in their mock voter pool, and on top of all of that they tried to turn his statement about megyn kelly seeing blood into a menstruation anti women comment.

then what happens? the Donald surges in the polls :bowdown:

and now the most recent poll has him gaining another 4% which is huge after just a few weeks from his prior surge :bowdown:

then u have the Dem's, hillary and flanders, pandering to Black Lives Matter because theyre scared their podiums are going to be hijacked. Hillary is about to get railroaded by her social media of sensitive information. Bernie Flanders is such a weak and spineless poohsee its only a matter of time before he is exposed. keep praying The Donald doesn't have a chance just like the Huffington Post did, now they look real dumb.

Trump will be sitting pretty at the top of the heap when its all said and done and y'all are going to be like OH SHIT :eek:

Trump4Prez :bowdown:

[Godzuki]

He has 24%. That's not exactly imposing.


Trump has surged 8% pts since July. thats HUGE.

if it were a real race Trump would have lapped the field like 3 times :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Godzuki]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150812102033-hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter-protest-daunasia-yancey-intv-nr-00003108-exlarge-169.jpg

At last month's Netroots Nation in Phoenix, both former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders were interrupted. Since those protests, Clinton has gone to great lengths to say repeatedly that "black lives matter," and she has also made race and police reform a key part of her campaign.

Earlier this month, Sanders ceded a stage in Seattle to protesters to make their points at the microphone, but eventually left the stage and called off his event when those protesters didn't relinquish the podium.

Black Lives Matter activists have been criticized at times for their tactics, particularly taking over events, but Yancey told CNN after her planned protest earlier this month that there would be more interruptions from the group in the future.

if u vote Dem you're voting for old and scared pandering poohsee's. Lets be real :coleman:

[Lensanity]

I would legit agree to 2 more Obama terms over 1 term of Bernie Sanders.
Why? You keep saying he is bad for the economy but I haven't seen you explain why.

Bernie will actually make the right changes and tell the truth. I want a president I can actually trust.

[Patrick Chewing]

Man Hillary wears the same ****ing suit every goddamn day. What a Communist bitch!

Meanwhile in Iowa....


http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/08/18/gettyimages-484350434-a6d18d91602260af02973b9f28993df6d56be1fd-s900-c85.jpg

[Godzuki]

i'd love to see Trump in a 1v1 debate against that coward Bernie.

Trump would intimidate him so much i think Bernie would leave the podium again :oldlol:

or he'd just get eaten like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcnH_TOqi3I


Trump4Prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ThePhantomCreep]

i'd love to see Trump in a 1v1 debate against that coward Bernie.

Trump would intimidate him so much i think Bernie would leave the podium again :oldlol:

or he'd just get eaten like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcnH_TOqi3I


Trump4Prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Yeah, a man who has been in politics since the 60s is going to be intimidated by... the Apprentice guy.

You Kochbots are delusional.

[Godzuki]

Yeah, a man who has been in politics since the 60s is going to be intimidated by... the Apprentice guy.

You Kochbots are delusional.


that weak ass grandpa was intimidated by 2 ugly fat bitches who hijacked his podium in front of 1000's who came out to see him speak :biggums:

i don't know what u call weak but thats the definition of poohsee ass mf'er :coleman:

oh and he hires someone from their movement into his campaign right afterward :roll: :roll: :roll:

i swear i haven't seen anyone do something that lame in a long time :sleeping:


bernie could be one of the weakest spineless human beings in the universe.

[Nanners]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

these dumb ass jabronies are in for a rude awakening if trump ever has to debate uncle bernie

[UK2K]

Why? You keep saying he is bad for the economy but I haven't seen you explain why.

Bernie will actually make the right changes and tell the truth. I want a president I can actually trust.

Bernie Sanders is just pandering to whatever the latest faux controversy is.

And the low information people eat it up.

[Godzuki]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

these dumb ass jabronies are in for a rude awakening if trump ever has to debate uncle bernie

:roll: :roll: :roll:

its unbelievable bernie stans think he can stand up to Trump when he ran from 2 ugly fat bitches :biggums:

Trump would tear him apart like a shark does a seal. even putting bernie on seal level is overestimating that weak cowardly pansy.

bernie is probably the biggest panderer in political history. sad how many sheep just follow whats popular and pandering :rolleyes:

[UK2K]

Yeah, a man who has been in politics since the 60s is going to be intimidated by... the Apprentice guy.

You Kochbots are delusional.
Thats the last thing I want.

A politician who has been making promises for 50 years.

I thought maybe because Obama was new, he wouldnt be indebted to special interest groups and spend his presidency repaying favors, but turns out, pandering to special interest groups is how he got elected in the first place.

At the very least, I can 100% say that Donald Trump cannot or will not be bought. He won't have to repay anyone if he wins.

[Patrick Chewing]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

these dumb ass jabronies are in for a rude awakening if trump ever has to debate uncle bernie


Bernie will get owned.

[Nanners]

:oldlol:

like i said....if you actually believe any of that bullshit, its going to be a rude awakening

keep underestimating bernie... he is drawing crowds of 20-30k while trump has to pay actors to show up at his events.

[KevinNYC]

but turns out, pandering to special interest groups is how he got elected in the first place.
Nope.

[KevinNYC]

while trump has to pay actors to show up at his events.Trump only had to do that for his launch.

He's legit drawing crowds now

[Godzuki]

:oldlol:

like i said....if you actually believe any of that bullshit, its going to be a rude awakening

keep underestimating bernie... he is drawing crowds of 20-30k while trump has to pay actors to show up at his events.


he draws 20-30k to listen to Black Lives Matter speak :oldlol:

[UK2K]

Nope.
http://dailysignal.com/2012/11/07/the-top-3-special-interests-expecting-favors-during-obamas-second-term/


Big Labor

Labor unions have spent billions since 2005 to elect friendly politicians, including President Obama. Government unions went “all out for the president,” noted Heritage’s James Sherk and Ashley Shelton on Tuesday. And that only tells part of the story. “The hours spent by union employees working on political matters were equivalent in 2010 to a shadow army much larger than President Barack Obama’s current re-election staff,” according to the The Wall Street Journal.


Environmentalists

“The reelection of President Obama and Vice President Biden is an affirmation of the role of government in charting America’s clean economy future,” said BlueGreen Alliance executive director David Foster after Tuesday’s results came in.

Energy Action Coalition executive director Maura Cowley expressed a similar sentiment: “it’s clear that taking bold and urgent action on the climate crisis must be at the top of Obama’s list.”

As Heritage’s Diane Katz recently noted, the Environmental Protection Agency reportedly held off on issuing major regulations until after the election. With Obama in office for another four years, expect him to advance many of the regulations he stalled for fear of the political fallout that would result from the depressing impact on the American economy.


Green Energy Companies

As Heritage’s Rachael Slobodien documented yesterday, 19 taxpayer-backed green energy companies have recently filed for bankruptcy. Despite that record, federal handouts to such companies are likely to continue under Obama, who made “green jobs” a pillar of his reelection campaign.

The president’s victory on Tuesday makes an extension of the wind production tax credit (PTC) more likely during the lame duck session of Congress, according to industry observers.

If the PTC extension passes, it will mark the first post-election handout to green energy companies, but by no means the last. “President Obama has been a tremendous supporter of solar energy,” said Solar Energy Industries of America CEO Rhone Resch in reaction to the election, “and we look forward to continuing to work with the Obama Administration over the next four years.”

Yes.

Add the minorities, 95% of the black vote (which is why Democrats don't give them shit, because they dont have to), Hispanics hoping for amnesty, and self hating white guilt leftists, and voila, you won yourself a presidency.

[Trollsmasher]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/2016-poll-hillary-clinton-joe-biden-bernie-sanders/index.html


The poll finds Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton ahead of Trump by just 6 points, a dramatic tightening since July. Trump is the one of three Republican candidates who have been matched against Clinton multiple times in CNN/ORC polling to significantly whittle the gap between himself and the Democratic frontrunner. He trailed Clinton by 16 points in a July poll, and narrowed that gap by boosting his standing among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (from 67% support in July to 79% now), men (from 46% in July to 53% now) and white voters (from 50% to 55%).

we got this shit on a lock down

[KingBeasley08]

All parties pander. If you don't think the Republicans do, then you're either being intentionally stupid or you're just stupid. Nothing wrong with it. Both parties do it

Trump ain't too bad doe. Supports nationalized, privatized healthcare system and progressive tax rate :applause: Funny thing is guys like Patrick Chewing rip those ideas but if a Republican President gets behind it, you know he'll defend em. So maybe it's for the best

[KyrieTheFuture]

Everyone who thinks Bernie is weak at debate clearly has never seen him talk. Watch him tear Alan Greenspan a new asshole if you want proof.

[Nanners]

All parties pander. If you don't think the Republicans do, then you're either being intentionally stupid or you're just stupid. Nothing wrong with it. Both parties do it

Trump ain't too bad doe. Supports nationalized, privatized healthcare system and progressive tax rate :applause: Funny thing is guys like Patrick Chewing rip those ideas but if a Republican President gets behind it, you know he'll defend em. So maybe it's for the best

yeah tbh trump is probably my second choice for pres after bernie. trump has some very liberal views for a republican, and he seems a lot more trustworthy than shady shillary. also it would be kind of hilarious.

[UK2K]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/2016-poll-hillary-clinton-joe-biden-bernie-sanders/index.html



we got this shit on a lock down

Clinton should be in jail. Others have been jailed for less. She openly admitted she had government documents labeled secret on her private server, which was housed in a bathroom closet and protected by a 'mom and pop shop' IT company run out of someones apartment who just so happened to donate to her cause.

Weird right? Any Republican would be blasted gfor being that stupid, but the media will give Hillary a pass.

[RidonKs]

yeah tbh trump is probably my second choice for pres after bernie. trump has some very liberal views for a republican, and he seems a lot more trustworthy than shady shillary.
bush would be a better president than trump. though trump would be a worse candidate for the republican party so i'm praying he gets the nomination. the vocal minority of independents who might swing for trump are already (and will continue to) drown out the voices of people who know that it's one thing to have a playboy stooge for president (reagan), but entirely another thing to have an rich arrogant cvnt of a playboy stooge for president. he will be bought and sold like a common whore.

thing is, if america abandons every single tradition ever embedded in its political process, it will nominate donald trump and bernie sanders as opposition candidates. and the entire corporate world will jump on the trump train which will be the toughest political sale in american history. meanwhile sanders is saying everything nobody wants to hear and also stands out as a policy radical, even though he's quite reserved in terms of charisma. he'll get labeled a radical and attacked in a few months, once his campaign finishes the initial primary push.

[KevinNYC]

Add the minorities, 95% of the black vote (which is why Democrats don't give them shit, because they dont have to), Hispanics hoping for amnesty, and self hating white guilt leftists, and voila, you won yourself a presidency.You forgot women. You basically are saying that anyone who isn't white AND share your preferences is a special interest group.

However this is just dumb. What you described is coalition politics. So liberals are a special interest group? Or are they more likely to vote for the party that shares their ideology. Just as members of the Republican coalition do.

Finance, Real Estate, Insurance, Transportaion, Agribusiness, Energy and Construction companies give much more heavily to Republicans. Are they not special interests?

Obama won his first presidency because the Republicans had destroyed their brand and we were in the midst of a financial crisis. Republicans were pretty unpopular in 2008.
http://www.pewresearch.org/data-trend/political-attitudes/republican-party-favorability/
He won the second time because he was still a better choice
Both parties are look upon unfavorably, but the Republicans are more underwater than the Democrats.

[KevinNYC]

Clinton should be in jail. Others have been jailed for less. She openly admitted she had government documents labeled secret on her private server, which was housed in a bathroom closet and protected by a 'mom and pop shop' IT company run out of someones apartment who just so happened to donate to her cause.

Weird right? Any Republican would be blasted gfor being that stupid, but the media will give Hillary a pass.

Couple of points
A. The private server thing is a separate issue from the classified documents issue.

Even if she had her regular work email on a state.gov address that would not change any thing about the handling of classified information. That would need to be on a separate system entirely. That is there should not be classified info in the 30,000 emails she turned over if those emails went through a government server or her own. Classified info needs to be a secure system. The issues with having a private server involve archiving govt records, FOIA requests and a few others.

B. Nothing have I seen indicates that she had documents labelled secret.. In fact, I have heard charges that accuse her or her staff of removing the classification markings.

However, if the emails still have classified info, this is still an issue. That is you can't read a classified (and Marked report) on your secure system that says "Osama is holed up in Abottabad" and then get on your nonsecure email (personal or not) and type up a nonmarked email saying "Looks like we'll be hitting Abottabad soon" and be in the clear. This seems to be the allegation that is being made. The IGs did not make a criminal referral and I think if they folks marked documents they would have.....total amateur at this, so that with a grain of salt, but I think there non criminal referral means take a look at this see if this came from classified sources. There's an article in politico of someone who was accused of mishandling material that he actuall got from the newspaper and when the lawyers accused him they were actually in violation because they just revealed that this info was considered classified and the accusation revealed it to someone not read into the program.

Lots of folks including the media are mixing up several of these issues. There are concerns with both A and B, but they are different. B is much more serious than A.

[UK2K]

Couple of points
A. The private server thing is a separate issue from the classified documents issue.

Even if she had her regular work email on a state.gov address that would not change any thing about the handling of classified information. That would need to be on a separate system entirely. That is there should not be classified info in the 30,000 emails she turned over if those emails went through a government server or her own. Classified info needs to be a secure system. The issues with having a private server involve archiving govt records, FOIA requests and a few others.

B. Nothing have I seen indicates that she had documents labelled secret.. In fact, I have heard charges that accuse her or her staff of removing the classification markings.

However, if the emails still have classified info, this is still an issue. That is you can't read a classified (and Marked report) on your secure system that says "Osama is holed up in Abottabad" and then get on your nonsecure email (personal or not) and type up a nonmarked email saying "Looks like we'll be hitting Abottabad soon" and be in the clear. This seems to be the allegation that is being made. The IGs did not make a criminal referral and I think if they folks marked documents they would have.....total amateur at this, so that with a grain of salt, but I think there non criminal referral means take a look at this see if this came from classified sources. There's an article in politico of someone who was accused of mishandling material that he actuall got from the newspaper and when the lawyers accused him they were actually in violation because they just revealed that this info was considered classified and the accusation revealed it to someone not read into the program.

Lots of folks including the media are mixing up several of these issues. There are concerns with both A and B, but they are different. B is much more serious than A.

More than 300 of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s emails — or 5.1 percent of those processed so far — have been flagged for potential secret information, the State Department reported to a federal court Monday as the political furor continued to grow for the Democratic presidential candidate and her aides.

Point being, General Petraeus was caught up for much less.

I heard, as well, that her staff intentionally scrubbed the 'Secret' label off documents.

Nice post by the way. :cheers:

[KevinNYC]

Nothing have I seen indicates that she had documents labelled secret..
More than 300 of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s emails — or 5.1 percent of those processed so far — have been flagged for potential secret information, the State Department reported to a federal court Monday as the political furor continued to grow for the Democratic presidential candidate and her aides.
Yes, this information reinforces what I said. If they are flagged as potential, we are NOT dealing with information is labelled secret.

So far they have been no bombshells. Having documents flagged to be reviewed by other agencies is not usual when reviewing documents under the Freedom of Information Act.

Point being, General Petraeus was caught up for much less.Not true. At this point that is pure talking point speculation.

Petraeus pled guilty to knowingly misusing classified material and sharing it. We're not anyway near that yet. So far, we don't even know if this is serious enough to lose a security clearance over, remember the inspector generals did not make a criminal referral.


I heard, as well, that her staff intentionally scrubbed the 'Secret' label off documents.
This is in the news, but I have not heard this from folks actually part of the investigation. This would be a bombshell, but right now this speculation.

[UK2K]

Yes, this information reinforces what I said. If they are flagged as potential, we are NOT dealing with information is labelled secret.

So far they have been no bombshells. Having documents flagged to be reviewed by other agencies is not usual when reviewing documents under the Freedom of Information Act.
Not true. At this point that is pure talking point speculation.

Petraeus pled guilty to knowingly misusing classified material and sharing it. We're not anyway near that yet. So far, we don't even know if this is serious enough to lose a security clearance over, remember the inspector generals did not make a criminal referral.


This is in the news, but I have not heard this from folks actually part of the investigation. This would be a bombshell, but right now this speculation.

They are under review. This news only broke yesterday or the day before.


EXCLUSIVE: An email from a top Clinton adviser containing classified military intelligence information, and one from a top aide containing classified information about the Benghazi terror attack, were the documents that kick-started the FBI investigation into the mishandling of classified information, Fox News has learned.

The emails, among thousands on Hillary Clinton's personal server, were released to the Benghazi select committee in May and have been widely discussed but Fox News for the first time has identified which Clinton aides sent them and the subject matter.

The first was forwarded by Clinton adviser Huma Abedin and contained classified material from military intelligence sources. The 2011 email forwards a warning about how then-Ambassador Chris Stevens was "considering departure from Benghazi" amid deteriorating conditions in a nearby city. The email was mistakenly released by the State Department in full, and is now considered declassified.

The second was sent by Clinton aide Jake Sullivan and contained classified information as well as sensitive law enforcement information on Benghazi. The partly redacted November 2012 email detailed how Libyan police had arrested "several people" with potential connections to the terror attack.

Abedin and Sullivan now work for the Clinton presidential campaign. A spokeswoman for the intelligence community inspector general confirmed to Fox News that the information was classified at the time it was sent.

^^That's the best part^^

They actually have jobs now. Go figure.

[NumberSix]

Yes, this information reinforces what I said. If they are flagged as potential, we are NOT dealing with information is labelled secret.
OMG,I can't believe Hillary has actually convinced people of this stupidity.

Use your common sense for just a minute. Why do you think youre not allowed to use a private server? Do you think documents are actually labelled "Super Top Secret"?

They're not labelled as "classified" because they're not supposed leave official government servers in the first place. You don't label which ones can or can't be taken because it's understood that NONE OF THEM are to be taken at all. It's like being surprised that you got in trouble for stealing something from a store that didn't specifically have a "do not steal" label on it. It's understood that EVERYTHING. In the store is not to be stolen.

[RidonKs]

OMG,I can't believe Hillary has actually convinced people of this stupidity.

Use your common sense for just a minute. Why do you think youre not allowed to use a private server? Do you think documents are actually labelled "Super Top Secret"?

They're not labelled as "classified" because they're not supposed leave official government servers in the first place. You don't label which ones can or can't be taken because it's understood that NONE OF THEM are to be taken at all. It's like being surprised that you got in trouble for stealing something from a store that didn't specifically have a "do not steal" label on it. It's understood that EVERYTHING. In the store is not to be stolen.
ah. so forwarding to a private email address to view later is a crime now? how about transferring something to a usb drive? this is now the same as stealing tooth paste from the grocery store?


what is the nature of the sensitive data you so disapprove of hilary breaching? like what specifically about it do you think was dangerous? because otherwise we just have a couple of partisan rats getting delirious over a minor procedural error with no real world consequences...

[Droid101]

OMG,I can't believe Hillary has actually convinced people of this stupidity.

Use your common sense for just a minute. Why do you think youre not allowed to use a private server? Do you think documents are actually labelled "Super Top Secret"?

They're not labelled as "classified" because they're not supposed leave official government servers in the first place. You don't label which ones can or can't be taken because it's understood that NONE OF THEM are to be taken at all. It's like being surprised that you got in trouble for stealing something from a store that didn't specifically have a "do not steal" label on it. It's understood that EVERYTHING. In the store is not to be stolen.
The encryption level is the label dude, not the damn subject line.

[NumberSix]

ah. so forwarding to a private email address to view later is a crime now? how about transferring something to a usb drive? this is now the same as stealing tooth paste from the grocery store?


what is the nature of the sensitive data you so disapprove of hilary breaching? like what specifically about it do you think was dangerous? because otherwise we just have a couple of partisan rats getting delirious over a minor procedural error with no real world consequences...
Yes. It is. :hammerhead:

[RidonKs]

Yes. It is. :hammerhead:
no you're ****ing wrong you putz

[KevinNYC]

They are under review. This news only broke yesterday or the day before.

Yes, my point is this is not actually unusual during a FOIA review. This is no way means 315 criminal charges, however folks what you think it's really bad and scary news and they are spinning you.

The first was forwarded by Clinton adviser Huma Abedin and contained classified material from military intelligence sources. The 2011 email forwards a warning about how then-Ambassador Chris Stevens was "considering departure from Benghazi" amid deteriorating conditions in a nearby city. The email was mistakenly released by the State Department in full, and is now considered declassified.
Yes, Chris Stevens was the ambassador and yes he died in Benghazi.
However, that happened in 2012.

In 2011, he was not "then-Ambassador." He became the Ambassador on June 7, 2012. He did travel to Libya in 2011 and that was not classified info. In fact, it was announced at several press conferences at the time that he was going to Benghazi. So that is open source information. You don't need to be stripped classified document codes to know that.

Here's several stories from 2011 that mention it.

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/service-held-in-benghazi-for-combat-photographers-and-physician-killed-in-misurata/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/29/us-libya-east-usa-envoy-idUSTRE72S3RL20110329

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-03-30/veteran-arabic-speaking-envoy-stevens-leads-u-s-talks-with-libya-rebels

[KevinNYC]

Use your common sense for just a minute. Your common sense has steered you wrong. This is an example of a fake classified document with proper codes. Note that the document overall has codes and each paragraph has different codes.


[QUOTE]TOPSECRET//SI//TK//NOFORN

(S) Economic, Political Problems for Zendia Ahead

(TS//SI) The Zendian Ambassador to Dirtbagistan believes it is increasingly likely that his country will fail to make its next International Monetary Fund (IMF) payment, scheduled for mid-September. This IMF payment of 475 billion Zendian wangos ($8.4 billion) is beyond his government

[UK2K]

Yes, my point is this is not actually unusual during a FOIA review. This is no way means 315 criminal charges, however folks what you think it's really bad and scary news and they are spinning you.

Yes, Chris Stevens was the ambassador and yes he died in Benghazi.
However, that happened in 2012.

In 2011, he was not "then-Ambassador." He became the Ambassador on June 7, 2012. He did travel to Libya in 2011 and that was not classified info. In fact, it was announced at several press conferences at the time that he was going to Benghazi. So that is open source information. You don't need to be stripped classified document codes to know that.

Here's several stories from 2011 that mention it.

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/service-held-in-benghazi-for-combat-photographers-and-physician-killed-in-misurata/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/29/us-libya-east-usa-envoy-idUSTRE72S3RL20110329

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-03-30/veteran-arabic-speaking-envoy-stevens-leads-u-s-talks-with-libya-rebels

Impressed by your work. Well done.

[NumberSix]

It's hilarious that the usual lib-tards think Hillary is going to survive this scandal.

[KevinNYC]

It's hilarious that the usual lib-tards think Hillary is going to survive this scandal.
It's hilarious that your understanding of what is going on is completely off.

[RidonKs]

It's hilarious that your understanding of what is going on is completely off.
in his defense, it's becoming less and less funny

[KevinNYC]

Impressed by your work. Well done.

thanks.
You have to remember that a lot of the anonymous sources who are talking to the media might have an interest in releasing this info in the most damaging way possible.

I had a meeting coming up so I didn't explain the classification codes meant. That fake memo overall was highly classified you needed top level clearances to read it, but two of the paragraphs were unclassified.

FOUO For Official Use Only
not classified, but shouldn't be released to the public without official approval.

U Unclassified
completely unclassified info.

So you can quote from a document marked top secret/special intelligence/not to be show to foreigners, but you had better be quoting the right paragraphs. This is the type of stuff that is under review. If you wrote FOUO stuff to Secretary Clinton in an email, you are not going lose your security clearance. AND this might need to be reviewed to see what needs to be removed/redacted before public release. If you quoted stuff that gives away spy satellite info, you might lose your clearance or you might be indicted depending on the circumstances.

[KevinNYC]

OMG,I can't believe Hillary has actually convinced people of this stupidity.

Use your common sense for just a minute. Why do you think youre not allowed to use a private server? Do you think documents are actually labelled "Super Top Secret"?

They're not labelled as "classified" because they're not supposed leave official government servers in the first place. You don't label which ones can or can't be taken because it's understood that NONE OF THEM are to be taken at all. It's like being surprised that you got in trouble for stealing something from a store that didn't specifically have a "do not steal" label on it. It's understood that EVERYTHING. In the store is not to be stolen.
Just to be clear, you're incorrect on several points

Top Secret information needs to be transmitted on secure system completely separate from regular office email. For what's worth, Clinton claims she would deal with Top Secret material in hard copy.

For office email you could use a private email address and the regulations at the time clearly talk about what you need to do if you do this. In fact the regulation goes into how you decide what is a personal email and what needs to be saved as a government record. This mainly has to do with archiving of government records. Later after Clinton left office, the law was changed and you could not do official email on a private email address.

I know the Colin Powell used a private email address and I believe they say Condi Rice did, but Powell for sure. The difference with clinton is created her own domain and got a server. She was not the only one on this domain her husband, daughter and it seems some aides were on this domain.

Your other point is a mixing up of Classified documents and government work records. Regular old non classified email is still considered a work record and classified documents are formally marked in there is a rigorous process for doing so at the document and paragraph level.

[ThePhantomCreep]

It's hilarious that the usual lib-tards think Hillary is going to survive this scandal.

Lol @ this Kochsucker.

The IRS scandal.
Fast and Furious.
The VA scandal
OMGZ, BENGHAZI!!!

If I had a dollar for every phony baloney scandal parroted by the right (that went nowhere), I'd buy each and every teabilly in this country a clue. Hilary has nothing to worry about.

[UK2K]

Lol @ this Kochsucker.

The IRS scandal.
Fast and Furious.
The VA scandal
OMGZ, BENGHAZI!!!

If I had a dollar for every phony baloney scandal parroted by the right (that went nowhere), I'd buy each and every teabilly in this country a clue. Hilary has nothing to worry about.
Vets are still blowing their heads off in the parking lot and dying waiting for treatment.

That's not a scandal. It's just not as entertaining as riots.

[Godzuki]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/donald-trump-mitt-romney-choked-2012/index.html

trump takes the best shots :oldlol:

"that is the dumbest thing i've heard in the history of politics"

"he is such a low energy person"


Trump is the GOAT speaker/debater :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[KevinNYC]

.... on her private server, which was housed in a bathroom closet and protected by a 'mom and pop shop' IT company run out of someones apartment who just so happened to donate to her cause.

This is another one of those facts that has a half life about a day and a half.

The Colorado IT company moved into a loft and converted the closet into a server room and put their servers in it. They didn't put their clients servers there.

The Clinton's server was never in Colorado.

"There never was, at any time, data belonging to the Clintons stored in Denver. Ever," said Dovetail Solutions CEO Andy Boian, who added that Clinton's server was always in a New Jersey data center.

When this company got the contract, they moved the Clinton email server from NY to NJ.

This company might have been a Mom and Pop shop when they started, but they seem like they are doing pretty well right now (http://platteriver.com/see-us/press/)

[TheMan]

I'm watching Trump at a pep rally in Alabama and my God, is this guy the biggest dope to ever be taken seriously (well, just remembered Palin, Cain, Bachmann...) by a political party? The GOP are just pandering to the lowest denominator. You literally have to be a simpleton to buy this blowhard's pitch :facepalm

'Murrica full of idiots :banghead:

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm watching Trump at a pep rally in Alabama and my God, is this guy the biggest dope to ever be taken seriously (well, just remembered Palin, Cain, Bachmann...) by a political party? The GOP are just pandering to the lowest denominator. You literally have to be a simpleton to buy this blowhard's pitch :facepalm

'Murrica full of idiots :banghead:


Did you buy Obama's pitch? Cause that assclown sucked hard.

[TheMan]

Did you buy Obama's pitch? Cause that assclown sucked hard.
Say what you will about Obama but we are MUCH better off than 8 years ago. That you cannot deny. Of course you'll probably feel different since you take Fox News propaganda hook, line and sinker.

[Patrick Chewing]

Say what you will about Obama but we are MUCH better off than 8 years ago. That you cannot deny. Of course you'll probably feel different since you take Fox News propaganda hook, line and sinker.


LOL that's MSNBC propaganda.

[TheMan]

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LOL that's MSNBC propaganda.
http://media2.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif

[KevinNYC]

Say what you will about Obama but we are MUCH better off than 8 years ago. That you cannot deny. Of course you'll probably feel different since you take Fox News propaganda hook, line and sinker.
8 years ago was 2007.

[oh the horror]

I'd buy Obamas pitch over Trump that's for damn sure.


Donald Trump is the reality tv of politics on steroids. It's unreal to me that we are seriously SERIOUSLY having a conversation where this man is leading intern polls. Elections and politics have finally evolved into a full on public display of sketch comedy and it's almost like being American is the hilarious punchline.



I almost want to see Trump elected as full on president just to soothe the sprinkle of anarchist in my blood.

[TheMan]

8 years ago was 2007.
Goddam, you gotta be so literal, you know what I meant bruh

[TheMan]

I'd buy Obamas pitch over Trump that's for damn sure.


Donald Trump is the reality tv of politics on steroids. It's unreal to me that we are seriously SERIOUSLY having a conversation where this man is leading intern polls. Elections and politics have finally evolved into a full on public display of sketch comedy and it's almost like being American is the hilarious punchline.



I almost want to see Trump elected as full on president just to soothe the sprinkle of anarchist in my blood.
GTFO, he would be the US worst president ever, easily. He'd make W look like a legit competant world leader in hindsight :lol

[UK2K]

This is another one of those facts that has a half life about a day and a half.

The Colorado IT company moved into a loft and converted the closet into a server room and put their servers in it. They didn't put their clients servers there.

The Clinton's server was never in Colorado.


When this company got the contract, they moved the Clinton email server from NY to NJ.

This company might have been a Mom and Pop shop when they started, but they seem like they are doing pretty well right now (http://platteriver.com/see-us/press/)
Well, one of the employees who worked there described it as a mom and pop shop'.

Maybe they're wrong.

[NumberSix]

GTFO, he would be the US worst president ever, easily. He'd make W look like a legit competant world leader in hindsight :lol
Right, a guy who has been massively successful in the real world couldn't possibly handle a job that is usually done by people with absolutely no real world experience at all.

Look at the deal Obama just made. Iran gets $150 billion, keeps their nuclear sites, keeps American prisoners, sanctions lifted, 24 for days before inspections and the latest revelation... Iran gets to do their own inspections.

You really think Trump would be as incompetent as Obama? :wtf:

[UK2K]

Say what you will about Obama but we are MUCH better off than 8 years ago. That you cannot deny. Of course you'll probably feel different since you take Fox News propaganda hook, line and sinker.
The market just crashed.

The fed can't continue to pump made up money into the market.

Because they've been doing that, it will correct itself, and it will tank.

The economy can tank again as soon as Obama leaves office, then he (and our propagandized media) will blame it on Trump if he wins, or they'll continue to blame Bush if a Democrat wins.