View Full Version : Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Songwriters....
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 08:22 PM
I would spoil it but I rather you guys go look for yourself.
Some notable names, surprises and the good and the bad.
Thoughts? L Kizzle?
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters?utm_source=huffpostlive&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=partner
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 08:24 PM
Just released today.
Suguru101
08-13-2015, 08:25 PM
Taylor Swift on top of ABBA. :roll:
Timbaland on top of ABBA. :roll:
Won't even finish the list.
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 08:32 PM
Taylor writes amazing songs, her own songs too.
Timbaland is a known plagiarist. :biggums:
I get why Cobain is on the list but the guy from Green Day? Green Day guy over Eddie Vedder(not even listed) of Pearl Jam? :facepalm
I remember Green Day writing songs about mast*rbation.
You guys know how many great songwriters there are in this world?
To separate them they probably considered 'hits' and Swift got some hits.
Smoke117
08-13-2015, 08:37 PM
Bruce Springsteen above Neil Young....:lol :oldlol: :roll: :oldlol: :roll:
This list is garbage. Neil Young is easily a top 5 songwriter of all time.
ThePhantomCreep
08-13-2015, 08:38 PM
Let me guess--the list is heavily weighted towards baby boomer artists, with a few modern acts sprinkled in to fool grandpa into thinking Rolling Stone is still hip.
ThePhantomCreep
08-13-2015, 08:41 PM
Eminem made the list? I guarantee he hasn't come up with a melody in his life.
Smoke117
08-13-2015, 08:42 PM
Where was Uncle Neil? I only scrolled down a few...
17. This list is an absolute joke...they have ****ing Taylor Swift on their 100 greatest songwriters, but not Mark Kozelek? :biggums: (red house painters, sun kil moon)
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 08:44 PM
Bruce Springsteen above Neil Young....:lol :oldlol: :roll: :oldlol: :roll:
This list is garbage. Neil Young is easily a top 5 songwriter of all time.
They're like #17 and #14....hardly that far apart from one another.
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 08:46 PM
This list is an absolute joke...they have ****ing Taylor Swift on their 100 greatest songwriters, but not Mark Kozelek? :biggums: (red house painters, sun kil moon)
who?
Smoke117
08-13-2015, 08:48 PM
who?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrbVpsKdn90
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrbVpsKdn90)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7aLPQEfrFE
Patrick Chewing
08-13-2015, 10:04 PM
Taylor Swift on top of ABBA. :roll:
Timbaland on top of ABBA. :roll:
Won't even finish the list.
That's disgraceful. How many artists have sampled ABBA throughout the years???
Taylor ****ING Swift over Jimi Hendrix, Tony Iommi, 2Pac, Big L, and pretty much every artist ever?
Are you ****ing kidding me?
LOL @ calling Biggie the "best rapper ever" :rolleyes: Kanye West over 2Pac :oldlol:
RS always has THE worst lists, though, they must be notorious for it by now. Taylor Swift :roll:
andgar923
08-13-2015, 10:37 PM
Bowie at 39?
:no: :no: :banghead: :banghead:
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 10:49 PM
I don't like Taylor Swift but lets put this into perspective....her songs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Taylor_Swift
Almost all hits. Tons of them.
She can't break out of her stupid pop shit but she writes hit songs. Everything she writes becomes gold. At this rate she can crack top 20 therefore she is ranked deservedly so.
9erempiree
08-13-2015, 10:51 PM
Its funny that nobody bitches about the top 20...but can complain about the bottom of the list, which quite frankly, should be a coin flip.
Step your game up.
Smokey Robinson is too damn high.
ThePhantomCreep
08-13-2015, 11:16 PM
I can easily picture the fossils at Rolling Stone sitting around compiling this list:
"We have too many artists from the 60s and 70s. We need a token artist from 2015. Who's hot right now?"
"Taylor Swift."
"Okay, throw her in!"
Lady Gaga would have been included had they released this shit five years ago. :facepalm :lol
PS: The exclusion of Jimi Hendrix is just flat-out trolling.
Akrazotile
08-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Rolling Stones is a music industry mag and Taylor Swift is the most powerful artist in the biz. You guys are astonished theyre giving her a favorable ranking??
:hammerhead:
That_Admiral
08-14-2015, 05:24 AM
Kanye West at 84..... wow. So i guess it doesn't really matter about lyrics?
Nastradamus
08-14-2015, 01:19 PM
Kanye West at 84..... wow. So i guess it doesn't really matter about lyrics?
That's silly. Kanye has great lyrics. His lyrics give us an emotional vulnerabilty few do while relating to youth culture, including social and political commentary and not being afraid to try new things. How many rappers would write something like Only One or Jesus Walks(and I'm an atheist who hates Christianity fwiw)?
Levity
08-14-2015, 01:28 PM
Conor Oberst, the guy rolling stones dubbed rocks boy genius/this generations bob dylan, doesnt even make the list? ridiculous.
I can easily picture the fossils at Rolling Stone sitting around compiling this list:
"We have too many artists from the 60s and 70s. We need a token artist from 2015. Who's hot right now?"
"Taylor Swift."
"Okay, throw her in!"
Lady Gaga would have been included had they released this shit five years ago. :facepalm :lol
PS: The exclusion of Jimi Hendrix is just flat-out trolling.
:applause:
Smoke117
08-16-2015, 01:13 AM
Its funny that nobody bitches about the top 20...but can complain about the bottom of the list, which quite frankly, should be a coin flip.
Step your game up.
Smokey Robinson is too damn high.
Speaking from someone who has read a lot of your threads (kobe or not related)...this is possibly the...DUMBEST ****ING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID. Smokey Robinson is a legend. Do you want some advice? No? too bad. Stop posting every moronic thought that comes into your mind...whether it bge your kobe stan bullshit to your muslim rage...nobody gives a shit. Shut the **** up.
Smokey Robinson is a legend you imbecile.
BlakFrankWhite
08-16-2015, 01:51 AM
They didn't include Hendrix FFS
TheMan
08-16-2015, 01:59 AM
Taylor ****ING Swift over Jimi Hendrix, Tony Iommi, 2Pac, Big L, and pretty much every artist ever?
Are you ****ing kidding me?
LOL @ calling Biggie the "best rapper ever" :rolleyes: Kanye West over 2Pac :oldlol:
RS always has THE worst lists, though, they must be notorious for it by now. Taylor Swift :roll:
This post x 1,000,000
RS is a lame publication trying to stay "hip"
Yeah, Taylor Swift will be forgotten by the time the next generation is buying music. Rolling Stone sucks
TheMan
08-16-2015, 02:03 AM
I don't like Taylor Swift but lets put this into perspective....her songs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Taylor_Swift
Almost all hits. Tons of them.
She can't break out of her stupid pop shit but she writes hit songs. Everything she writes becomes gold. At this rate she can crack top 20 therefore she is ranked deservedly so.
Taylor Swift writes pop music garbage, her music will not have staying power, SHE HAS NO BUSINESS BEING IN THIS LIST, ARE YOU KIDDING ME???!!!???
what do they classify as 'song writer'
That_Admiral
08-16-2015, 02:35 AM
That's silly. Kanye has great lyrics. His lyrics give us an emotional vulnerabilty few do while relating to youth culture, including social and political commentary and not being afraid to try new things. How many rappers would write something like Only One or Jesus Walks(and I'm an atheist who hates Christianity fwiw)?
If this was to do with producing or being an artist, I would gladly put him higher. But if it's solely on lyricism there's no way he deserves to be this high.
Just2McFly
08-16-2015, 03:18 AM
R Kelly should be in the top 20..... This guy has written for himself and virtually every R and B act for the past 25 years...
Jailblazers7
08-16-2015, 03:18 AM
They're like #17 and #14....hardly that far apart from one another.
Lol yeah they are like 3-4 spots apart and it's a tragedy? But Springsteen is great in his own right so it's kinda ridiculous to single him out vs. Neil Young. Bowie at 39 does seem crazy tho.
RedBlackAttack
08-16-2015, 03:08 PM
That's silly. Kanye has great lyrics. His lyrics give us an emotional vulnerabilty few do while relating to youth culture, including social and political commentary and not being afraid to try new things. How many rappers would write something like Only One or Jesus Walks(and I'm an atheist who hates Christianity fwiw)?
The problem isn't necessarily Kanye West or Taylor Swift... it's the exclusion of people like Jimi Hendrix, who should have -- not just been on the list -- but been high on the list. His body of work considering how brief his career was is flat-out awe inspiring.
His releases as a singer songwriter began in late 1967 and he was dead by the end of 1970.
In that tiny window, he wrote and performed at the highest level classics like Purple Haze, Fire, Little Wing, The Wind Cries Mary, Voodoo Child, Angel, Foxy Lady, Red House, Bold As Love, Castles Made of Sand, Manic Depression, and a ton of other songs that are still as popular almost 50 years later as they were when he released them... maybe moreso.
Are we really going to sit here and pretend that Taylor Swift or Kanye West are going to have that kind of staying power?
List is a joke for a lot of reasons, but their decision to exclude Hendrix is just embarrassing.
christian1923
08-16-2015, 04:27 PM
Taylor ****ING Swift over Jimi Hendrix, Tony Iommi, 2Pac, Big L, and pretty much every artist ever?
Are you ****ing kidding me?
LOL @ calling Biggie the "best rapper ever" :rolleyes: Kanye West over 2Pac :oldlol:
RS always has THE worst lists, though, they must be notorious for it by now. Taylor Swift :roll:
Kanye has made way more hits then tupac dude. yeezy is the goat
ThePhantomCreep
08-16-2015, 08:28 PM
what do they classify as 'song writer'
Good question. I'm not seeing how Eminem and Kanye are songwriters. Kanye at least produces, but I doubt he's ever crafted a killer hook on his own, without sampling. Eminem is basically just a lyricist.
Listen to "Stronger". Daft Punk does the heavy lifting on that track, not Kanye.
Nastradamus
08-17-2015, 11:14 AM
The problem isn't necessarily Kanye West or Taylor Swift... it's the exclusion of people like Jimi Hendrix, who should have -- not just been on the list -- but been high on the list. His body of work considering how brief his career was is flat-out awe inspiring.
His releases as a singer songwriter began in late 1967 and he was dead by the end of 1970.
In that tiny window, he wrote and performed at the highest level classics like Purple Haze, Fire, Little Wing, The Wind Cries Mary, Voodoo Child, Angel, Foxy Lady, Red House, Bold As Love, Castles Made of Sand, Manic Depression, and a ton of other songs that are still as popular almost 50 years later as they were when he released them... maybe moreso.
Are we really going to sit here and pretend that Taylor Swift or Kanye West are going to have that kind of staying power?
List is a joke for a lot of reasons, but their decision to exclude Hendrix is just embarrassing.
No problem wanting Hendrix in, but Kanye is not the guy you should be looking to count out. I wouldn't discount his staying power either.
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