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Marchesk
08-14-2015, 07:11 PM
Instead of all-time franchise players, take the best championship team for each franchise and put them in a league with modern rules. They have a summer to prepare.

In the case where a franchise has several all-time great squads from different eras, they can be donated to teams lacking a championship.

For example:

Philadelphia 76ers 83 squad is an all-time great, but so is the 67 one. So ship one to Cleveland or Washington.

Which team wins the league?

Edit: the Kings can have the strongest Shaq/Kobe team.

Fallen Angel
08-14-2015, 07:13 PM
1996 Chicago Bulls

MrC1991
08-14-2015, 07:15 PM
1996 Chicago Bulls

Came in here to say this.

Fallen Angel
08-14-2015, 07:19 PM
Can't go wrong with this Top 12: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

Marchesk
08-14-2015, 07:21 PM
1996 Chicago Bulls

There's 4 teams in the 80s alone I'm not sure the Bulls would beat in a 7 game series.

Marchesk
08-14-2015, 07:22 PM
Can't go wrong with this Top 12: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

Just a terrible list.

Fallen Angel
08-14-2015, 07:29 PM
Just a terrible list.
Have you never heard of the Elo Rating? Pretty much tells the most dominant teams of all-time from the historically worse teams of all-time.

I don't understand how you could say that's a terrible list. All of those top teams dominated their respective season, some more than others.

SouBeachTalents
08-14-2015, 07:46 PM
Can't go wrong with this Top 12: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

Most indefensible rankings from that list

1. '10 Magic over '01 Lakers
2. '71 Bucks outside the top 25
3. '09 Cavs top 15
4. '09 Lakers top 5 all time
5. '03 Spurs top 25 all time

LAZERUSS
08-14-2015, 10:31 PM
Can't go wrong with this Top 12: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Reminds me a lot of Billingsley's Top-200 college football teams of all-time.

I'm reasonably certain that both lists just threw a bunch of teams in a hat, and pulled them out one-by-one.

Complete JOKE.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

kshutts1
08-15-2015, 03:50 AM
Criteria is very unfair to more modern teams.

A 30 team league is going to have talent a little more spread out, while the 9 team leagues, or whatever they were, are all stacked with talent, relatively speaking.

Most likely to win is probably the '67 Sixers? Wouldn't shock me to see an early Lakers team win, either. Or a 60's Celtics.

KembaWalker
08-15-2015, 03:53 AM
Wilt's dead tho

swagga
08-15-2015, 05:25 AM
Most indefensible rankings from that list

1. '10 Magic over '01 Lakers
2. '71 Bucks outside the top 25
3. '09 Cavs top 15
4. '09 Lakers top 5 all time
5. '03 Spurs top 25 all time

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Harison
08-15-2015, 05:33 AM
86 Celtics

RidonKs
08-15-2015, 08:00 AM
Can't go wrong with this Top 12: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

96 bulls
87 lakers
86 celtics
14 spurs
15 warriors
89 pistons
12 heat
00 lakers
83 sixers
95 rockets

how do you rank these teams?

swagga
08-15-2015, 09:09 AM
96 bulls
87 lakers
86 celtics
14 spurs
15 warriors
89 pistons
12 heat
00 lakers
83 sixers
95 rockets

how do you rank these teams?

those 87 lakers and 86 celtics would slow the game down and BRUTALIZE the bulls in the post.

LAZERUSS
08-15-2015, 09:10 AM
Most indefensible rankings from that list

1. '10 Magic over '01 Lakers
2. '71 Bucks outside the top 25
3. '09 Cavs top 15
4. '09 Lakers top 5 all time
5. '03 Spurs top 25 all time

This is just a great example of how RIDICULOUS that list is.

I personally rank the '71 Bucks at #4 all-time. And here is why...

1. They went 66-16 in the regular season, which is impressive enough, but they were 65-12 before coasting home.

2. They had a regular season ppg differential of +12.2 ppg, which ranks third all-time, and just behind the '72 Lakers and '96 Bulls, who both had a +12.3. BUT, again, when they were 65-12, their ppg differential was a staggering +13.6 ppg, which, of course, would have shattered the all-time mark.

3. They had the largest regular season FG% spread in NBA history, outshooting their opposition by an unfathomable .509 to .424 mark... or +.085.

4. They were #1 in ppg.

5. They were #1 in offensive FG%.

6. They were #3 in ppg allowed.

7. They were #1 in FG% allowed.


8. They went 12-2 in the post-season.

9. They were # 1 in ppg in the post-season.

10. They were miles better than everyone else in ppg allowed in the post-season.

11. They were light years better than everyone else in FG% in the post-season.

12. They were by far, the best team in the post-season in FG% allowed.

13. They had the largest ppg differential in post-season history, at +14.5 ppg.

14. They had the largest FG% spread in post-season history, at a staggering .497 to .395 mark, or +.102.


Furthermore, if the ABA had been merged with the NBA, those margins would have INCREASED across the board. The best team in the ABA was the Utah Stars, who won the title with a 57-27 record, and basically one legitimate NBA star in Zelmo Beatty. The Virginia Squires went 55-29, and their best NBA player was Charley Scott. The Kentucky Colonels were in the Finals with a 44-40 record, and their lone NBA star was Dan Issel.

As for the NBA, after Milwaukee's 66-16 record, the next best mark was New York at 52-30. So, the Bucks were an eye-popping +14 wins better than any other team in the league. Should they get punished for that?

Their only chip in the argument would have been their post-season competition, which was not their fault. They romped over the 41-41 Warriors in the first round, 4-1. They wiped out the 48-34 Lakers in the WCF's (albeit, LA was without both West and Baylor); and they swept the 42-40 Bullets in the Finals...(and by a +12.3 margin.)

The '71 Bucks had a PEAK Alcindor (Kareem), a still excellent Oscar, Bobby Dandridge and his 18-8 .509 FG%, Jon McGlocklin (who was the Kyle Korver of his era...albeit, he didn't benefit with his 3pt range, simply because the NBA didn't have a 3pt line), Greg Smith with his speed and athleticism, which produced a 12-7 .512 FG% season, and a couple of quality reserves in Bob Boozer and Lucius Allen.


I could easily shred that POS list, which has the '67 Sixers at #16 and the '72 Lakers at #18, as well as a ton of more examples, but I am not going to waste my time. Needless to say, I have the '72 Lakers at #1 all-time, and the '67 Sixers at #2, and I could provide similar numbers as I did for the '71 Bucks. I do have the '96 Bulls at #3.