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305Baller
08-16-2015, 08:49 PM
The proverbial torch of "best player" has been passed as...

Mikan
Cousy
Russell
Chamberlain
Kareem
Dr.J
Malone
Magic
Jordan
Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
LeBron


Edit1: Added Russell, Duncan, Shaq
Edit2: Added Cousy, Malone

everyone in agreement??

Young X
08-16-2015, 08:52 PM
Shaq

ShawkFactory
08-16-2015, 08:54 PM
Shaq
And bird

JimmyMcAdocious
08-16-2015, 08:58 PM
If you're talking like the quintessential player or players of each era, I'd say: Mikan > Russell and Wilt > Kareem and Dr J > Bird and Magic > Jordan > Duncan, Kobe, Shaq > LeBron. And I think the next generation has started already with Davis and whoever emerges. Probably the next 3-5 draft classes. Durant's longevity will be interesting because technically I could see him falling with Davis and the new generation of players. Kind of like how Shaq was playing well into the 90s, yet he's paired with the dominant players of the 00s.

jlip
08-16-2015, 09:01 PM
The proverbial torch of "best player" has been passed as...

Mikan

Russell...Mikan's last full season of basketball was 1954. Wilt's first season was 1959-60 which was five years later. Someone had to be the best during that interim.

Chamberlain
Kareem
Dr.J
Magic
Jordan
Kobe
LeBron

everyone in agreement??

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ClipperRevival
08-16-2015, 09:02 PM
Way too general. Hakeem dominated from 1994 through 1995. Shaq from 2000 - 2002. No Duncan?

SouBeachTalents
08-16-2015, 09:04 PM
I'd like to hear how the "torch" was passed from Jordan to Kobe when Shaq/Duncan won 3 MVP's & 6 Finals MVP's before Kobe won either one.

And how is Moses completely skipped over when he won 3 MVP's and a Finals MVP in a 5 year span?

Angel Face
08-16-2015, 09:20 PM
LeBron's torch died quickly, got snatched by KD (2014) and Curry (2015).

ArbitraryWater
08-16-2015, 09:23 PM
LeBron's torch died quickly, got snatched by KD (2014) and Curry (2015).


right, a torch that just gets passed on to a new guy every year.. who's torch is it this year, AD?

Marchesk
08-16-2015, 09:42 PM
Moses Malone deserves mention with Dr J.

Cousy could bridge Mikan to Russell/Wilt

LAZERUSS
08-16-2015, 10:19 PM
...

Russell was easily the best player between Mikan and Wilt, and in fact, with Wilt.

And I won't take the time to find the newspaper clip, but there was article in the mid-50's, or so, in which Mikan claimed that Russell was going to be even greater than he [Mikan] had been.

Megabox!
08-16-2015, 10:39 PM
LeBron's torch died quickly, got snatched by KD (2014) and Curry (2015).
You have to be the dumbest MJ stan on this board, and it's not even close.

SouBeachTalents
08-16-2015, 10:44 PM
LeBron's torch died quickly, got snatched by KD (2014) and Curry (2015).

If KD snatched LeBron's torch in 2014 as you claim, then Curry would be taking KD's torch, not LeBron's, in 2015. Too stupid to even make a logical insult

outbreak
08-16-2015, 10:54 PM
So Hezonja will be the first euro on the list?

RRR3
08-16-2015, 11:08 PM
No TMac? No Chalmers?

Rocketswin2013
08-16-2015, 11:18 PM
Bryant and Duncan hardly had a reign of dominance like the rest. And holy fck keep Moses Malone out of these discussions please. Wow.

Marchesk
08-17-2015, 12:04 AM
Bryant and Duncan hardly had a reign of dominance like the rest. ons please. Wow.

Why? How many players have 3 MVPs in history? Who else was better than Moses in the late 70s to early 80s? Dr J and Kareem were his equal, but not necessarily better. Magic and Bird hadn't reached their peak years yet.

GreggPopazit
08-17-2015, 12:27 AM
No TMac? No Chalmers?

??

iamgine
08-17-2015, 12:30 AM
Mikan > Wilt > Kareem > Bird/Magic > Jordan > Shaq > Lebron

WayOfWade
08-17-2015, 01:07 AM
I think that LeBron has held the torch as best player since 10', and still has it today. Durant had one good year, but hasn't done much since (not really his fault). As for who can take it and when, I think within maybe even next season Durant could officially take it if he can put together another great season and won the title. But if LeBron continues his finals runs unimpeded, and no single player actually takes the league over, he'll have the title for a few more years.

Smoke117
08-17-2015, 01:11 AM
Kobe was never the best player in the league...how adorable that stans actually believe this. He literally has an MVP because he had been around 10 years or so in 08 and people felt sorry for him. He should do the right thing and drive that trophy over to CP3's house and hand it to him.

ballinhun8
08-17-2015, 01:22 AM
Kobe was never the best player in the league...how adorable that stans actually believe this. He literally has an MVP because he had been around 10 years or so in 08 and people felt sorry for him. He should do the right thing and drive that trophy over to CP3's house and hand it to him.


:facepalm


Kobe was the best individual player from at least 05-09 roughly. Individual dominance til 08 then the two titles.

If he's gonna drive over to CP360 then is Nash driving over to Kobe for the 05 or 06?

SouBeachTalents
08-17-2015, 01:23 AM
:facepalm


Kobe was the best individual player from at least 05-09 roughly. Individual dominance til 08 then the two titles.

If he's gonna drive over to CP360 then is Nash driving over to Kobe for the 05 or 06?

:lol

ballinhun8
08-17-2015, 01:45 AM
:lol



I wrote both years cuz off the top of my head I couldn't remember which one the general public felt Kobe deserved :roll:

ArbitraryWater
08-17-2015, 07:23 AM
:facepalm


Kobe was the best individual player from at least 05-09 roughly. Individual dominance til 08 then the two titles.

If he's gonna drive over to CP360 then is Nash driving over to Kobe for the 05 or 06?

yea, thats very "rough", coming straight out of the mouth from an idiot :lol


I wrote both years cuz off the top of my head I couldn't remember which one the general public felt Kobe deserved :roll:

If you cant tell from the top off your head which season was Kobe's injury year and which the 35 ppg one, then you're the definition of a casual :oldlol:

AnaheimLakers24
08-17-2015, 08:16 AM
Dr jay to magic/bird to jordan to kobe and now to curry
thats it. No one else had the torh im sure

SHAQisGOAT
08-17-2015, 08:36 AM
No Larry Bird :biggums:

:facepalm

Rocketswin2013
08-17-2015, 12:17 PM
:facepalm


Kobe was the best individual player from at least 05-09 roughly. Individual dominance til 08 then the two titles.

If he's gonna drive over to CP360 then is Nash driving over to Kobe for the 05 or 06?

:facepalm