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triangleoffense
08-17-2015, 03:51 AM
one of the oldest ideas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pikd-9qqQ1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pw9g1efbNs

SouBeachTalents
08-17-2015, 03:54 AM
If the NBA was truly rigged the ratings killing Spurs wouldn't have 5 titles

NZStreetBaller
08-17-2015, 04:10 AM
Yeh its rigged. But there is only so much they can do in order to influence games without being detected. Hense why boring teams still win.

Bless Mathews
08-17-2015, 04:20 AM
If the NBA was truly rigged the ratings killing Spurs wouldn't have 5 titles

Thread over

brownmamba00
08-17-2015, 04:38 AM
If the NBA was truly rigged the ratings killing Spurs wouldn't have 5 titles
we don't know what happens behind closed doors...who says they don't make a shitload of money off the Spurs Ch'sip? New multi billionaire sponsors from Texas investing in the NBA?

the league is def rigged to an extent just look at the '06-'08 finals...the Celts-Heat series where Rondo was getting mauled in OT without any fouls while Wade and Bron got phantom calls on the other end...the missed calls in the '13 finals. the FT discrepancy in game 5 for the Kings in the '02 WCF and the Kobe call at the end of game 6 that series (the league wanted a gm7)

the Ewing, Rose and LeBron draft...the new investor in NO getting the no1 pick who just happens to be the next NBA great... and so much more...there is too much money going around for this not to happen don't be naive people.

It will surface one day tho just like it's surfacing in football...that fat jew Stern was so good in covering these things up tho.

JohnMax
08-17-2015, 05:08 AM
Lebron would not be 2/6 if NBA was rigged.

DOUBLE DRIBBLE
08-17-2015, 06:47 AM
Tim Donaghy is a dirtbag....


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/sports/basketball/15cnd-NBA.html?referrer=&_r=0

gyu
08-17-2015, 06:50 AM
If the NBA was truly rigged the ratings killing Spurs wouldn't have 5 titles
You guys are looking at it the wrong way. NBA could be rigged in ways that favors those who bet on games, not necessarily about trying to help the most popular teams/players win games.

DOUBLE DRIBBLE
08-17-2015, 06:57 AM
If the NBA was truly rigged the ratings killing Spurs wouldn't have 5 titlescome on... We all know the rig was in during that playoff series with the Spurs vs the Suns... It's the only logical reason the Spurs defeated the Suns and went on to play the Cavs for the Championship that year. Referees are dirty as shit. :biggums:

ArbitraryWater
08-17-2015, 07:20 AM
we don't know what happens behind closed doors...who says they don't make a shitload of money off the Spurs Ch'sip? New multi billionaire sponsors from Texas investing in the NBA?

the league is def rigged to an extent just look at the '06-'08 finals...the Celts-Heat series where Rondo was getting mauled in OT without any fouls while Wade and Bron got phantom calls on the other end...the missed calls in the '13 finals. the FT discrepancy in game 5 for the Kings in the '02 WCF and the Kobe call at the end of game 6 that series (the league wanted a gm7)

the Ewing, Rose and LeBron draft...the new investor in NO getting the no1 pick who just happens to be the next NBA great... and so much more...there is too much money going around for this not to happen don't be naive people.

It will surface one day tho just like it's surfacing in football...that fat jew Stern was so good in covering these things up tho.

this breakdown/argument for the league being rigged could only come from a Laker fan :oldlol:

It reads like comedy

poido123
08-17-2015, 07:29 AM
Impossible to rig a nationally televised sport like the NBA over a long time, over every single game.


A rigged game here and there? It's possible


What is closer to the truth is heavily influenced games. Refs can manipulate momentum swings etc to influence a result, although teams have and can overcome it.

This isn't some conspiracy theory, but a necessary protection of the NBA product and it's players. It's big business now.

brownmamba00
08-17-2015, 07:43 AM
this breakdown/argument for the league being rigged could only come from a Laker fan :oldlol:

It reads like comedy
ofcourse you're gonna laugh it off

you are the biggest lbj nutthugger on this board

don't make it any less true tho

poido123
08-17-2015, 07:45 AM
ofcourse you're gonna laugh it off

you are the biggest lbj nutthugger on this board

don't make it any less true tho


AW still wets the bed. True story

JohnnySic
08-17-2015, 07:52 AM
Impossible to rig a nationally televised sport like the NBA over a long time, over every single game.


A rigged game here and there? It's possible


What is closer to the truth is heavily influenced games. Refs can manipulate momentum swings etc to influence a result, although teams have and can overcome it.

This isn't some conspiracy theory, but a necessary protection of the NBA product and it's players. It's big business now.
This guy gets it.

AnaheimLakers24
08-17-2015, 08:01 AM
Bron would be 1/6

Gileraracer
08-17-2015, 08:49 AM
Lebron would not be 2/6 if NBA was rigged.

He would be 0/6 if it wasn't

Sakkreth
08-17-2015, 08:55 AM
Yes, that lakers 3peat is a joke, should of been 1 title. Those wcfs against portland and sacramento was a complete joke. Don't need much more proof than that.

ArbitraryWater
08-17-2015, 09:16 AM
ofcourse you're gonna laugh it off

you are the biggest lbj nutthugger on this board

don't make it any less true tho

I laugh it off because its trash.. mentioning bad calls at the end of the 2012 ECF G2 is like the horrible calls all over the 4th quarter between the Lakers/Jazz 2008 WCSF G5, the yt vid was taken down by now, go download that game somewhere....

the 2006-2008 finals? Only a Laker fan would be upset about Duncan/Spurs winning a fair finals and the Celtics beating the Lakers fair and square... you think those are qualified mentions?

When it comes to infamous rig jobs, its 2002, 2006, 2010 G7... thats it.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the 2012 finals, of course, 2013, I'm unsure who you believe was robbed?

- Heat set record for most number of fouls called on one team in the finals for a quarter.
- Heat set record for fewest FT's ever attempted in 7-game finals series

Oh game 6 ending specifically?

- No-call on Manu travel last second shot where Ray "fouled" him.
- No technical on Spurs subbing in Duncan for final possession of 4th quarter

And your take on 2002 is the most ridiculous thing in your post.... "Kings with the large free throw desceperany in game 5, and the one lil Kobe call at the end of game 6"

































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you ain't foolin' no one

PJR
08-17-2015, 09:21 AM
Ya'll are idiots

senelcoolidge
08-17-2015, 10:59 AM
If you have watched the NBA long enough you know that refs manipulate games. Why do you think so many games are so close (one team all of sudden gets 30 ft attempts in a quarter or half) (inconsistent foul calling..one team is being mauled with no calls while the other gets away with anything)? Super star calls..that's not suppose to happen based on the rules..but it does. It's not rigged to the point where it's so obvious, but sometimes it is obvious. These refs have biases. They dislike certain players, coaches, and teams. They have agendas. You can't even question refs or it's a fine. You have refs that are criminals such as Joe Crawford.

HighFlyer23
08-17-2015, 11:09 AM
2002 WCF, the 2007 WC Semis, and 2006 Finals immediately come to mind

NBAplayoffs2001
08-17-2015, 11:13 AM
2002 WCF comes to mind immediately.

kshutts1
08-17-2015, 11:18 AM
Is football, or any other sport, more appropriately ref-ed?

I think that, short of some bad apples that are operating on their own, with the league unaware, that the most "rigged" the league is is just the human element, as someone above me just said.

At the end of the day, or at the point of the call, the refs are human. They're likely to get caught up in many of the same facets of the game as we fans are. Their calls are likely to be, at least partially, a result of their emotions, and gut feelings.

HighFlyer23
08-17-2015, 11:29 AM
Is football, or any other sport, more appropriately ref-ed?

I think that, short of some bad apples that are operating on their own, with the league unaware, that the most "rigged" the league is is just the human element, as someone above me just said.

At the end of the day, or at the point of the call, the refs are human. They're likely to get caught up in many of the same facets of the game as we fans are. Their calls are likely to be, at least partially, a result of their emotions, and gut feelings.


The NFL is officiated better than the NBA and there is no question about that. The challenge system in the NFL is also an asset.

Clearly you cannot tell me that the refs didn't influence the outcome of the 2002 WC Finals. That is the most flagrant example I can think of. There is a reason why the NBA gets accused of fixing games more than the other major professional sports leagues.

HurricaneKid
08-17-2015, 11:37 AM
The NFL is officiated better than the NBA and there is no question about that. The challenge system in the NFL is also an asset.

Clearly you cannot tell me that the refs didn't influence the outcome of the 2002 WC Finals. That is the most flagrant example I can think of. There is a reason why the NBA gets accused of fixing games more than the other major professional sports leagues.

The NFL officiating is a joke. Holding and DPI are defensible on essentially every play. Which means you can negate a TD/give a team an extra possession EASILY. And you cannot dispute most penalties.

kshutts1
08-17-2015, 11:40 AM
The NFL is officiated better than the NBA and there is no question about that. The challenge system in the NFL is also an asset.

Clearly you cannot tell me that the refs didn't influence the outcome of the 2002 WC Finals. That is the most flagrant example I can think of. There is a reason why the NBA gets accused of fixing games more than the other major professional sports leagues.
I literally mentioned some bad apples operating on their own :facepalm

HighFlyer23
08-17-2015, 12:41 PM
I literally mentioned some bad apples operating on their own :facepalm

More like some bad apples working together and calling the same bad calls

The only way for the kind of officiating we saw in 2002 in the WCF to happen is if the officials grouped together or if they received a command from the top.

HighFlyer23
08-17-2015, 12:45 PM
The NFL officiating is a joke. Holding and DPI are defensible on essentially every play. Which means you can negate a TD/give a team an extra possession EASILY. And you cannot dispute most penalties.

Still it is more consistent than the NBA.

I don't recall there ever being as much criticism placed on NFL refs as there is on NBA refs and officiating. You have politicians coming out and questioning the officiating in the NBA.

kshutts1
08-17-2015, 12:55 PM
More like some bad apples working together and calling the same bad calls

The only way for the kind of officiating we saw in 2002 in the WCF to happen is if the officials grouped together or if they received a command from the top.
I like that we all hold on to ONE series, that happened THIRTEEN YEARS AGO, as an argument that the NBA is currently rigged.

Statistics alone would say that the NBA should have had a seemingly rigged game well before the one they actually did. Seemingly rigged being that the calls were so bad that the game appeared to be rigged, even though it was not.

Now, I'm not saying that the game was not influenced by refs; I actually believe that it was. But I'm just pointing out the luls in the matter.

kshutts1
08-17-2015, 12:56 PM
Still it is more consistent than the NBA.

I don't recall there ever being as much criticism placed on NFL refs as there is on NBA refs and officiating. You have politicians coming out and questioning the officiating in the NBA.
It's because basketball is easier to understand; more people are "couch experts" even though the game is less popular.

Watch a game with a super knowledgeable NFL fan, and they'll gripe about calls nearly all game.

Edit: Also, the NFL calls are generally more subjective, whereas NBA are generally more cut-and-dry.

senelcoolidge
08-17-2015, 01:58 PM
Basketball is the easiest sport to manipulate out of all the major sports. There will always be human error, but these refs if they called it by the book they could have a 80% clean game. The league was going to go back to 2 refs per game and the refs fought hard against it. It's funny that in the past when they had 2 refs it seemed like games were officiated better.

sd3035
08-17-2015, 04:44 PM
Lebron would not be 2/6 if NBA was rigged.

He would be about 0/3 right now if it weren't rigged

KNOW1EDGE
08-17-2015, 04:48 PM
Impossible to rig a nationally televised sport like the NBA over a long time, over every single game.


A rigged game here and there? It's possible


What is closer to the truth is heavily influenced games. Refs can manipulate momentum swings etc to influence a result, although teams have and can overcome it.

This isn't some conspiracy theory, but a necessary protection of the NBA product and it's players. It's big business now.

Isn't that basically the definition of rigging a game?