why is Anonymous becoming so pro-active?

[RidonKs]

politically speaking but also on strictly social justice issues...

it's an incredible organization unique in our day and age, at least with regard to scale if not in outright principle. and it's safe to say political issues are not the raison d'etre of anonymous... since they still like to be goofy and satirical and play off their main gimmick and all that

in any case these days we have whistleblowing leaks coming out of anon, they were all over twitter during recent major shakeups like occupy and the arab spring and others, they are hacking into government and major financial institution websites, etc etc etc one question is where they will go next? my gut tells me copyright and net neutrality and public access to information will be the direction they take primarily... but its tough to say


here's an interview (http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/interview-anonymous) i'm listening to that sparked this idea. a discussion between JEsse Brown, great canadian interviewer who does media scrutiny, and some member of anonymous who operates the twitter account @anonupordown (https://twitter.com/OpAnonDown)

[CNNonceAgain]

Because its a bunch of pathetic no life fvcks who wish to feel good about themselves, so they associate with what they perceive as a large and powerful organisation, just like every other over-socialised leftist.

They are the acne ridden, morbidly obese equivilent to peta or code pink

[RidonKs]

Because its a bunch of pathetic no life fvcks who wish to feel good about themselves, so they associate with what they perceive as a large and powerful organisation, just like every other over-socialised leftist.

They are the acne ridden, morbidly obese equivilent to peta or code pink
they are gaining influence so pathetic pleasers tho they may be, it's still a fascinating phenomenon.

will people begin to show outrage at a cell style organization with no accountability or representation taking matters into its own hands like a vigilante trying to do the right thing?

[CNNonceAgain]

People? No, so long as they don't do anything that turns the public against them like the IRA did with the omagh bombing
States? Already hate them

[RidonKs]

People? No, so long as they don't do anything that turns the public against them like the IRA did with the omagh bombing
States? Already hate them
this is exactly the point dude, hits the nail on the head rather well in fact

the danger of a splinter cell org is that there is no ordered hierarchy and everybody feels equally responsible for taking matters personally. that means things can get violent quick. and as soon as the first bank of america is bombed or even hacked, the public will deem the group (cyber)terrorists and the fbi will have licence to begin tracking and rounding them up.

[dunksby]

They are a bunch of irresponsible coders, some of them just glorified spammers, who think too highly of themselves. Their self-righteousness makes me sick, who keeps these assholes in check? Just because they think something the government does is bad doesn't mean they have the right to expose sensitive information that could be used in whole bunch of ways to hurt people. Their vigilante justice reminds of superhero movies where although you don't see anybody get hurt, the protagonist[s] run wild in cities detroying and blowing shit up; leaving destruction in their wake just to stop some cartoonishly painted evil villain.

[NumberSix]

They are a bunch of irresponsible coders, some of them just glorified spammers, who think too highly of themselves. Their self-righteousness makes me sick, who keeps these assholes in check? Just because they think something the government does is bad doesn't mean they have the right to expose sensitive information that could be used in whole bunch of ways to hurt people. Their vigilante justice reminds of superhero movies where although you don't see anybody get hurt, the protagonist[s] run wild in cities detroying and blowing shit up; leaving destruction in their wake just to stop some cartoonishly painted evil villain.
Every ideologue thinks they're breaking the law for "the right reasons" or "the greater good".

[Velocirap31]

I think they're alright. They DDoS child porn websites and expose the members' identities. At first they desired to just cause havoc for anyone they disliked, but they've generally moved toward good causes. Even with little to no leadership, the general public will move towards good and order (after chaos). Kind of how wikipedia works so well.

I admire their abilities with a computer. I don't care what they look like and neither should you. What do looks matter for anyway? Unlike looks or athleticism, their skills will last a lifetime and may even lead them to a great career developing apps and software for all of us coding dummies.

[nathanjizzle]

They are incredibly corny

[RidonKs]

They are a bunch of irresponsible coders, some of them just glorified spammers, who think too highly of themselves. Their self-righteousness makes me sick, who keeps these assholes in check? Just because they think something the government does is bad doesn't mean they have the right to expose sensitive information that could be used in whole bunch of ways to hurt people. Their vigilante justice reminds of superhero movies where although you don't see anybody get hurt, the protagonist[s] run wild in cities detroying and blowing shit up; leaving destruction in their wake just to stop some cartoonishly painted evil villain.

I think they're alright. They DDoS child porn websites and expose the members' identities. At first they desired to just cause havoc for anyone they disliked, but they've generally moved toward good causes. Even with little to no leadership, the general public will move towards good and order (after chaos). Kind of how wikipedia works so well.

I admire their abilities with a computer. I don't care what they look like and neither should you. What do looks matter for anyway? Unlike looks or athleticism, their skills will last a lifetime and may even lead them to a great career developing apps and software for all of us coding dummies.
interesting points. on the one hand, they are self-righteous ideologues with no flexibility on issues. on the other hand, many of their declared grievances are difficult to argue with, such as tracking the hosts of child porn websites..

[Trollsmasher]

still thinking those script kiddies can accomplish anything:lol

[dunksby]

interesting points. on the one hand, they are self-righteous ideologues with no flexibility on issues. on the other hand, many of their declared grievances are difficult to argue with, such as tracking the hosts of child porn websites..
There are not many areas so black and white as child porn, although they could have just flagged that shit to FBI, but as expected they got into vigilante justice on a wide scale.

[RidonKs]

There are not many areas so black and white as child porn, although they could have just flagged that shit to FBI, but as expected they got into vigilante justice on a wide scale.
i dunno, i know enough history about the fbi to understand why somebody would rather take matters into their own hands. and you're right that most issues aren't as cut and dry as child pornography.. then again a lot of shit is.

which activities of anonymous do you find shows the most objectionable disregard for official justice?

[SCdac]

they operate with a mob mentality, being lead by whatever protest is sexy at the time, and that alone is questionable... as an angry mob often doesn't act rationally or with proper regard for life.

remember when they threatened an "electronic holocaust" against Israel? (that wording hints at more than just criticism of Israel)

http://europe.newsweek.com/anonymous-electronic-holocaust-against-israel-has-limited-success-320176

or when they singled out the wrong person in the aftermath of the michael brown shooting (calling the wrong person out on twitter)?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2725292/Anonymous-suspended-Twitter-naming-wrong-police-officer-Michael-Brown-shooting.html

The wannabe vigilante justice is not something I can get behind. Having said that... even a broken clock is right twice a day... but their movement is generally a joke to me, and perpetually hiding behind anonymity is somewhat cowardly imo... it's not the same as having to use a pseudonym in say North Korea or China or something

[outbreak]

because now it's a lot of people who do it for the lols being lead by politically minded people. Sometimes they do good but there's also been times they've released wrong info and ruined peoples lives.