University of Alabama Sorority Deletes Viral Recruitment Video After Backlash

[UK2K]

https://youtu.be/h3EHm6iT3hM


In advance of their annual Bid Day, in which prospective sorority members are told which sororities they’ve been accepted into, the University of Alabama’s Alpha Phi released a Bid video promoting their sorority, part of a longstanding tradition of sisterhood self-promotion. Dubbed by Total Frat Move as “a nuke on the recruitment game,” the video—which features mostly blonde young women frolicking around campus looking beautiful and having fun—received widespread attention, and then criticism, prompting the video to be deleted, and the women to shut down their social media presence.
The people upset by this video are:

1) Fat women who are jealous of the fact they could not get into a sorority like that when they were younger.

2) Feminists, who preach your value as a human and not a super hot, half naked college chick. My guess is, these girls probably know what they're doing. I've said before, the only workplace inequality I have seen is hot chicks being given promotions and raises they didn't earn.

3) Soccer moms who had their third child 8 months ago but still hasn't lost her baby weight because she won't work out. She's also probably afraid her daughters will grow up and want to be in this sorority.

4) Females who are losers.

I have to ask, is it your recruitment video? No? So who cares?

We are so leftist pussified we are demanding a sorority take down their recruiting video because.... because why exactly? Because it makes little girls want to strive to achieve physical perfection? Makes women feel bad about themselves? Makes dudes want to... I guess know them?

If anything, it looks like to me (since there are currently 72 members) that their videos have worked, and continue to work, which is the intention of a RECRUITMENT VIDEO.

America is so soft, and because this video brought up reality to women across the country (the reality they are trying to ignore, that their lives suck and they aren't fit) they complain about it.

Oh, and also when someone watched this video, they cried it was racist because there were no minorities in the whole video. Something that I didn't notice at all until I read about it. See? Someone was sitting behind their keyboard counting the minorities. How pathetic are you?

[GIF REACTION]

Was that the one I posted?

[UK2K]

Was that the one I posted?

Did you?

I just saw it on Barstool Sports.

I approve.

[GIF REACTION]

Frivolous bullshit anyways. Stuff of social justice warriors. But you're absolutely right UK. Jealousy is an integral part of both the biological and social engineered makeup of females.

[GIF REACTION]

Did you?

I just saw it on Barstool Sports.

I approve.
Yeah

Wow I'm amazed that got that backlash

[niko]

It is stupid but why the concern? I just saw a video about this taiwaness chick who wears little maid outfits to get people to come into her Burger King (or some hamburger place). It got lots of criticism. And YET, the tiny outfits remain tiny.

Not all women are feminist nazis, and the feminazism doesn't drag them all in (my wife doesn't think it's ok to be fat and no 3,000 videos will sway her).

Instead of discussing the fat women's crusade just post the hot women video.

[niko]

Watched video. :cheers:

[UK2K]

Watched video. :cheers:

:oldlol:

[niko]

:oldlol:
It's stupid to be upset over something that's clearly meant (while implying their are hot girls) to be funny and to be a parody. The only way this is demeaning toward women is if a person says that is the case and gives it that meaning.

[UK2K]

It's stupid to be upset over something that's clearly meant (while implying their are hot girls) to be funny and to be a parody. The only way this is demeaning toward women is if a person says that is the case and gives it that meaning.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/08/bama_sorority_video_worse_for.html


Remember all those bikini-clad, sashaying, glitter-blowing, and spontaneous piggyback-riding days of college? Me either. But according to a new video, it's a whirlwind of glitter and girl-on-girl piggyback rides at the University of Alabama's Alpha Phi house.

No, it's not a slick Playboy Playmate or Girls Gone Wild video. It's a sorority recruiting tool gaining on 500,000 views in its first week on YouTube. It's a parade of white girls and blonde hair dye, coordinated clothing, bikinis and daisy dukes, glitter and kisses, bouncing bodies, euphoric hand-holding and hugging, gratuitous booty shots, and matching aviator sunglasses. It's all so racially and aesthetically homogeneous and forced, so hyper-feminine, so reductive and objectifying, so Stepford Wives: College Edition. It's all so ... unempowering.

Are they recruiting a diverse and talented group of young women embarking on a college education? Upon first or even fifth glance, probably not. Hormonal college-aged guys? Most assuredly yes. Older, male YouTube creepers? A resounding yes.

Her Op-Ed screams 'fat loser mother who hates her life worse than her kids'.

[Nick Young]

fat bishes got jelly.

[NumberSix]

What a bunch of terrible bitches. Being pretty, white and straight on purpose. I bet they're probably Christians too. Have they no decency?

[oh the horror]

Women using feminist terminology to hide the fact that they're shook because of the same issues the OP mentioned

Why would I give a shit at what some frat does? That's the aspect of being a frat. They can recruit who they want

[imdaman99]

So let me get this straight. People are offended over people being offended? :lol

[UK2K]

So let me get this straight. People are offended over people being offended? :lol

I always get offended when people out there pressure someone else to change in an attempt to make themselves feel better.

[imdaman99]

I always get offended when people out there pressure someone else to change in an attempt to make themselves feel better.
Are you offended when the French government forces Muslim women to take off their scarves at work or school?

[NumberSix]

I always get offended when people out there pressure someone else to change in an attempt to make themselves feel better.
I'd honestly like to see a sorority come out and openly promote their sorority as "whites only" just to see the heads explode.

[niko]

I'd honestly like to see a sorority come out and openly promote their sorority as "whites only" just to see the heads explode.
yes, that's the same thing we are discussing here. Totally the same.

[NumberSix]

Are you offended when the French government forces Muslim women to take off their scarves at work or school?
I would be if that happened in the United States, Canada, Australia... Those type of countries. But France? No, I can see the logic behind that.

[NumberSix]

yes, that's the same thing we are discussing here. Totally the same.
I didn't say it was.

[SugarHill]

I would be if that happened in the United States, Canada, Australia... Those type of countries. But France? No, I can see the logic behind that.
what logic? :rolleyes:

[UK2K]

Are you offended when the French government forces Muslim women to take off their scarves at work or school?

That's a safety issue isn't it?

Can a kid walk into a school with a mask on? Or can I badge myself in at work wearing a mask?

No.

Anyone can make a video of them running around in bikinis to recruit new members. It may not be pretty or get 500,000 views, but they can absolutely do the same thing if they want.

[Derka]

Leave those dippy broads alone. Its their sorority, not yours Mr/Miss Angry Blogger. Mind your goddamn business.

[HitandRun Reggie]

People are envious of hot girls, especially the ones who flaunt it. Always been like that, always will.

[GIF REACTION]

Ahahahah

When they are dancing the black guy is just like: "**** yeah son!"

Can only imagine how it would be to be a football player at a big elite division 1 university like Alabama, let alone being a star on the team. Holy shit.

Imagine being Manziel on campus. Holy. Shiatsu.

[Jailblazers7]

Wait, people got mad at a sorority video because it was...exactly what you would expect from a sorority video? :lol

[Nick Young]

what logic? :rolleyes:
In my country, Europe, we believe in the vision of the great Danton. Separation of church and state, mon ami.

[UK2K]

Ahahahah

When they are dancing the black guy is just like: "**** yeah son!"

Can only imagine how it would be to be a football player at a big elite division 1 university like Alabama, let alone being a star on the team. Holy shit.

Imagine being Manziel on campus. Holy. Shiatsu.

I was at a party at UK's campus one time, and in walked John Wall and Demarcus Cousins. Wall walks in and says....

"So who wants to suck my dick?"

And... well, then I didn't see him again. The end.

True story.

[bdreason]

Just looked like a bunch of really happy people.

[rufuspaul]

I was at a party at UK's campus one time, and in walked John Wall and Demarcus Cousins. Wall walks in and says....

"So who wants to suck my dick?"

And... well, then I didn't see him again. The end.

True story.


:pimp:

[GIF REACTION]

I was at a party at UK's campus one time, and in walked John Wall and Demarcus Cousins. Wall walks in and says....

"So who wants to suck my dick?"

And... well, then I didn't see him again. The end.

True story.
Damn.

That American college life must rock. Especially for the wealthy.

[UK2K]

Damn.

That American college life must rock. Especially for the wealthy.

Yeah, it's probably really terrible :oldlol:

I mean, if I was a high D1 athlete, the type of girls would be pretty high on my list of questions. That's why the SEC is always bringing in high end classes.... Southern Girls. Mmmmmm.

[Dbrog]

Damn.

That American college life must rock. Especially for the wealthy.

This is not even remotely close to how it goes down just fyi. Parties can get crazy but it's not this easy unless you have prime genetics

[SCdac]

Lets be real, if they weren't white this wouldn't even be a 'story'... There are many homogenous black sororities and other types of sororities... and they party just as much.

[TripleA]

This is the same shit as dark skin women getting salty that only light skin girls or latinas are in music videos or commercials. Why hating you it sorta shows your envious and have low esteem that you attack people are to attracted to you. Don't get it twisted a lot of chocolate bitchs are fine especially the ones with natural hair. Its just a lot of them have low self worth because some people don't see them as beautiful.

[sundizz]

Honestly, people are envious/jealous/hate it because it encroaches on what they think life should be about.

These girls are the epitome of putting out something superficial. A lot of people want their country to be about more than this. In reality, neither side is right. It is just the media that fuels the fire of superficiality. Why for most of civilization the media was controlled by the people in power (and still is honestly, just to a less transparent degree).

[Nick Young]

Honestly, people are envious/jealous/hate it because it encroaches on what they think life should be about.

These girls are the epitome of putting out something superficial. A lot of people want their country to be about more than this. In reality, neither side is right. It is just the media that fuels the fire of superficiality. Why for most of civilization the media was controlled by the people in power (and still is honestly, just to a less transparent degree).
You sound jelly yourself breh.

Maybe they are just teenage girls who have different tastes from you and want to have fun and live their lives in their own way. Should they be censored from doing that? Should their sorority not be allowed to recruit like-minded individuals?

[UK2K]

Lets be real, if they weren't white this wouldn't even be a 'story'... There are many homogenous black sororities and other types of sororities... and they party just as much.
Yep you won't see any self hating white liberals bitch about diversity at Georgia Southern.

They are white. Fine. Fit. And will probably be given jobs they don't deserve cause they are attractive and flirtatious and/or will marry some celebrity or businessman or athlete and live in a big ass house.

And it eats people up inside.

[UK2K]

This is not even remotely close to how it goes down just fyi. Parties can get crazy but it's not this easy unless you have prime genetics
Wall was definitely an exception, but for real any UK basketball player is getting his dick sucked every night if he wants. They're treated like Gods.

Terrence Jones used to show up at the blue courts, and get out of the back seat of a black chromed out SUV and like six girls all fall out behind him. Crowds following them everywhere they go. Chicks trying to get in on that for when they go to the NBA.

I've see Louisville players (basketball and football) who could do no wrong too.

[TripleA]

Yep you won't see any self hating white liberals bitch about diversity at Georgia Southern.

They are white. Fine. Fit. And will probably be given jobs they don't deserve cause they are attractive and flirtatious and/or will marry some celebrity or businessman or athlete and live in a big ass house.

And it eats people up inside.

:lol

[TripleA]

Wall was definitely an exception, but for real any UK basketball player is getting his dick sucked every night if he wants. They're treated like Gods.

Terrence Jones used to show up at the blue courts, and get out of the back seat of a black chromed out SUV and like six girls all fall out behind him. Crowds following them everywhere they go. Chicks trying to get in on that for when they go to the NBA.

I've see Louisville players (basketball and football) who could do no wrong too.

Yeah my brother went to the same high school as Terrence Jones and he got his picking he picking of all the girls, smoked tons of weed and got some much free stuff. Terrence ross who also went to the same school was a lot more chill and did not really care about the lifestyle and was pretty introverted.

[FKAri]

It's strange in the US, especially in the South. Athletes get a ton of respect. It's what people for live for out there.

[ace23]

It's strange in the US, especially in the South. Athletes get a ton of respect. It's what people for live for out there.
Where are you from and who gets a lot of respect there?

[Bandito]

saw the video. Don't see what is so wrong about the video.

[UK2K]

Yeah my brother went to the same high school as Terrence Jones and he got his picking he picking of all the girls, smoked tons of weed and got some much free stuff. Terrence ross who also went to the same school was a lot more chill and did not really care about the lifestyle and was pretty introverted.

And while I would like to sit here and say 'integrity of the college game', guys come to UK for two things.

Girls. And the NBA.

And in the process while they're on campus, they basically walk on water.

I know a girl who was 'talking' to Chane Behannan for like, a night, and when he showed up to a party I was at, he walked right up to her and demanded a blow job. She said no, he laughed, and deleted her from his phone right in front of her.

But let's be honest, I'd do the same thing if I was a 18 year old star athlete.

[ballup]

I'm offended by how good their house is. They got chandeliers, fancy ass couches, and shit as college students.

[FKAri]

Where are you from and who gets a lot of respect there?

Rich people, lol. College level athletes being big time is strictly a US phenomenon.

[niko]

Wall was definitely an exception, but for real any UK basketball player is getting his dick sucked every night if he wants. They're treated like Gods.

Terrence Jones used to show up at the blue courts, and get out of the back seat of a black chromed out SUV and like six girls all fall out behind him. Crowds following them everywhere they go. Chicks trying to get in on that for when they go to the NBA.

I've see Louisville players (basketball and football) who could do no wrong too.
You don't have to act like a jerkoff to get the god like treatment though. I met Derrick Coleman in college and dude was mad chill. Nice as anything, smoking, chilling, wasn't nasty to anyone, and had a line of women. (I've met some NBA players who are real ****tards too, Latrell Spreweel. Dude acts like he has a hard life while he stands in his $5,000 coat with people holding his bag for him).

[ace23]

Rich people, lol. College level athletes being big time is strictly a US phenomenon.
Well yea because people who go play college sports here have to actually be good lol. In most countries, (ALL aside from the US as far as I know), the ones who are good enough to go pro do so after/during HS or come to the US for college.

[FKAri]

Well yea because people who go play college sports here have to actually be good lol. In most countries, (ALL aside from the US as far as I know), the ones who are good enough to go pro do so after/during HS or come to the US for college.

It's more than that. The NCAA has really become commercialized with all the TV contracts and gambling, even though it's not supposed to be amateur and they give nothing to the athletes. As for these athletes being "good'. I don't think that plays into it at all. It's mainly just hype. The Canadian Football League or Euroleague is a higher level of comp but folks would still rather watch college football/bball just because of alum associations and ingrained culture. It's weird to anyone who's seeing it from the outside.

[Derka]

I was at a party at UK's campus one time, and in walked John Wall and Demarcus Cousins. Wall walks in and says....

"So who wants to suck my dick?"

And... well, then I didn't see him again. The end.

True story.

True story. PC has a third, maybe second tier Division 1 basketball program and those fellas scored p*ssy like it wasn't a thing.

[Joshumitsu]

Here's the contradictory bit.

If you do a 'diversity campaign' where you hire actors/photoshop minorities into a video or pamphlet, the SJW/PC crowd will say it's BS and unrepresentative of reality.

But if you portray it as it is (a sorority or frat is mostly white? Who knew?!), they'll get their feelings hurt as well.

There's no way of pleasing SJWs. They're just looking for anything to complain about, as a means of discrediting groups they're up against. It's all political BS and NOT about helping the people they supposedly represent.

[Hawker]

Always hatin' on greek life. Frats get demonized for supposed rape culture yet sorostitutes still hang out with and **** them.

[Nick Young]

It's more than that. The NCAA has really become commercialized with all the TV contracts and gambling, even though it's not supposed to be amateur and they give nothing to the athletes. As for these athletes being "good'. I don't think that plays into it at all. It's mainly just hype. The Canadian Football League or Euroleague is a higher level of comp but folks would still rather watch college football/bball just because of alum associations and ingrained culture. It's weird to anyone who's seeing it from the outside.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Is Euroleague the same league where Division 3 player Bo McCalleb looks like prime T-Mac?:roll: :roll: :roll: The same league where 2.8 PPG Spanoulis is a superstar? The same league that's building a giant statue for their GOAT, Anthony Parker?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GaxYT56Bpb8/T1R4dERJYRI/AAAAAAAADMQ/4dBb6RDj6Jc/s800/AP%2520statue.jpg

Canadian football league does not have any elite college prospects playing. Only college football rejects. Lots of people like college football because it gives them a chance to watch the next generation of NFL super stars. CFL is where you go to watch scrubs die.

Your opinions are shit.

[UK2K]

Here's the contradictory bit.

If you do a 'diversity campaign' where you hire actors/photoshop minorities into a video or pamphlet, the SJW/PC crowd will say it's BS and unrepresentative of reality.

But if you portray it as it is (a sorority or frat is mostly white? Who knew?!), they'll get their feelings hurt as well.

There's no way of pleasing SJWs. They're just looking for anything to complain about, as a means of discrediting groups they're up against. It's all political BS and NOT about helping the people they supposedly represent.
https://youtu.be/GnZkJJs_Hc4

Speaking of diversity...

For some reason, nobody is clamoring for this sorority to include members of the other races.

Double standard much? Welcome to America 2015.

[Nick Young]

Here's the contradictory bit.

If you do a 'diversity campaign' where you hire actors/photoshop minorities into a video or pamphlet, the SJW/PC crowd will say it's BS and unrepresentative of reality.

But if you portray it as it is (a sorority or frat is mostly white? Who knew?!), they'll get their feelings hurt as well.

There's no way of pleasing SJWs. They're just looking for anything to complain about, as a means of discrediting groups they're up against. It's all political BS and NOT about helping the people they supposedly represent.
And if it is an undiverse sorority of only black women, it would have been a never ending chorus of "YOU GO GURLZ" and buzzfeed articles with titles like "You'll never believe how empowered these proud black independent women are!"

[NumberSix]

And if it is an undiverse sorority of only black women, it would have been a never ending chorus of "YOU GO GURLZ" and buzzfeed articles with titles like "You'll never believe how empowered these proud black independent women are!"
Lol. Seriously imagine what the reaction would be to people screaming at a black sorority for not being "diverse" enough. :roll:

[Nick Young]

Lol. Seriously imagine what the reaction would be to people screaming at a black sorority for not being "diverse" enough. :roll:
Also these all-white sororities don't go around actively saying "WE'RE A WHITE SORORITY" while most of the all-black sororities proudly advertise their racial segregation, and get applauded for it.

[Derka]

Yeah, the few black students we had at Providence absolutely tended to segregate themselves from everyone else (with a few exceptions, naturally). All of them, ironically enough, except the men's women's basketball teams: mostly black and far and away the most socially outward black folk on campus.

Also, the term "historically black college/university" makes me cringe.

[NumberSix]

Yeah, the few black students we had at Providence absolutely tended to segregate themselves from everyone else (with a few exceptions, naturally). All of them, ironically enough, except the men's women's basketball teams: mostly black and far and away the most socially outward black folk on campus.

Also, the term "historically black college/university" makes me cringe.
Imagine if they started calling Harvard "historically white".

[ace23]

Also, the term "historically black college/university" makes me cringe.
Why?

[UK2K]

Why?

Because 'historically white' is racist, even if its true.

[TripleA]

Because 'historically white' is racist, even if its true.

Why majority of colleges were historically white. The reason they created HCBU
was so blacks could get a higher education which they sure as hell would not be able to get at "historically white colleges".

[Lebowsky]

https://youtu.be/GnZkJJs_Hc4

Speaking of diversity...

For some reason, nobody is clamoring for this sorority to include members of the other races.

Double standard much? Welcome to America 2015.
WTF did I just watch?

[UK2K]

Why majority of colleges were historically white. The reason they created HCBU
was so blacks could get a higher education which they sure as hell would not be able to get at "historically white colleges".

Why not? If a black person got into Yale, their degree wouldn't look any different than a white person's degree from Yale.

They've already lowered the admissions standards for blacks far below whites or Asians at nearly every college in California, whats the problem?

[ace23]

Because 'historically white' is racist, even if its true.
It's not really racist. It's just obnoxiously redundant to anyone with a middle-school-level education.

[TripleA]

Why not? If a black person got into Yale, their degree wouldn't look any different than a white person's degree from Yale.

They've already lowered the admissions standards for blacks far below whites or Asians at nearly every college in California, whats the problem?

Dude you do know they were created after the civil war not in the last 30 years.

So shit like this would not happen.

I know you trying to make a point but they were created not because blacks wanted to be segregated but crazy shit like the ole miss riot would happen.


The Ole Miss riot of 1962 was fought between Southern segregationist civilians and federal and state forces beginning the night of September 29, 1962; segregationists were protesting the enrollment of James Meredith, a black US military veteran, at the University of Mississippi (known affectionately as Ole Miss) at Oxford, Mississippi. Two civilians were killed during the night, including a French journalist, and over 300 people were injured,[1] including one third of the US Marshals deployed.

[ace23]

Why not? If a black person got into Yale, their degree wouldn't look any different than a white person's degree from Yale.

They've already lowered the admissions standards for blacks far below whites or Asians at nearly every college in California, whats the problem?
Jesus.

[UK2K]

Dude you do know they were created after the civil war not in the last 30 years.

So shit like this would not happen.

What does that have to do with the fact that a historically black school can call themselves a historically black school and get a high five while a historically white school could not call themselves a historically white school without being called racist?

It's not the creation of the black school that I have an issue with, its the idea of being able to exclude other races but not be considered racist.

[UK2K]

Jesus.

Disagree? Am I lying?

[TripleA]

What does that have to do with the fact that a historically black school can call themselves a historically black school and get a high five while a historically white school could not call themselves a historically white school without being called racist?

Why do care so much. The title is stating the history. You do know white people are not banned from HCBU. They make up a large minority of them. Their are some HCBU that are majority white. If someone calls their school a historically white school I would not think thats racist I would think that is redundant since almost all colleges in the U.S are historically white colleges.

[UK2K]

Why do care so much. The title is stating the history. You do know white people are not banned from HCBU. They make up a large minority of them. Their are some HCBU that are majority white.
Because I believe in equality.

[TripleA]

Because I believe in equality.
What equality that HCBU are not called racist well they are not and neither are "Historically White Colleges" Because those are facts not opinions.

[ace23]

Disagree? Am I lying?
Read a book.

[Nick Young]

Why do care so much. The title is stating the history. You do know white people are not banned from HCBU. They make up a large minority of them. Their are some HCBU that are majority white. If someone calls their school a historically white school I would not think thats racist I would think that is redundant since almost all colleges in the U.S are historically white colleges.
Shut the phuck up. You'd probably the first crying out how racist it is.:facepalm

[TripleA]

Shut the phuck up. You'd probably the first crying out how racist it is.:facepalm

:lol No I don't cry and whine about irrelevant shit. Words are not racist but actions are.

[Pushxx]

People pretending to be blind to this double standard so they can feel better about their lives since they are miserable pieces of shit that can't just live and let live in peace...

[TripleA]

Shut the phuck up. You'd probably the first crying out how racist it is.:facepalm

Dude why you so mad you having trouble comprehending that a black person is not crying racism and have to take it out on me for stating facts while you attack me for no reason while me and UK2K were in a very civil conversation.

[Nick Young]

Dude why you so mad you having trouble comprehending that a black person is not crying racism and have to take it out on me for stating facts while you attack me for no reason while me and UK2K were in a very civil conversation.
"facts"

[TripleA]

"facts"

I said why they are called HCBU and you telling me to shut the Phuck Up
who here is more offended me or you. I talk in civil conversation while you resort to insults just because you dislike what I said.

[UK2K]

Read a book.
I see you didn't tell me I was incorrect.

I know the truth hurts, but, it is what it is.

[Jailblazers7]

Why not? If a black person got into Yale, their degree wouldn't look any different than a white person's degree from Yale.

They've already lowered the admissions standards for blacks far below whites or Asians at nearly every college in California, whats the problem?

Yep, I bet Harvard and Yale were really lowering admission standards to up their campus diversity back in 1867 when Howard was founded.:lol

[UK2K]

Yep, I bet Harvard and Yale were really lowering admission standards to up their campus diversity back in 1867 when Howard was founded.:lol

Are we talking about 1867?

We're talking about now, and the use of 'historically black colleges', TODAY. Not 150 years ago. Now.

And schools across the country have lowered their standards for blacks. They dont need to score the same as whites or Asians to be admitted. Isn't that embarrassing? To be told you don't have to be as good, just marginally good, to be accepted? Wouldn't you be ashamed to be walking around campus knowing everyone there scored an acceptable score but you?

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html

True story, black students dont have to be nearly as good as whites or Asians to be admitted to the same schools. The schools have LOWERED their admission cut off point for blacks because.... diversity. :facepalm

[NumberSix]

Because I believe in equality.
Why? :wtf:

[UK2K]

Why? :wtf:

Get rid of the AA bullshit. If you can get into the school, you get in. If you can't, you can't.

Same thing with the military and lowering standards for women so they can almost pass the physical requirements instead of failing miserably. Why do females have their own physical fitness test? When we get into the field, will they be doing shit differently than males? No. So why can't they qualify like every male does? All that says to me is 'you are a weak individual and because you suck we're going to ease up and allow you to pass even though you aren't as good as everyone else'. Or the Houston Fire Department lowering their standards for blacks to be promoted because the test was deemed 'racist'. That screams 'you all were too stupid to pass the test, but because our fire department is being called racist because none of the black candidates can pass a simple test, we're going to just let you slide in anyway.'

That's embarrassing. Like, really.

Everyone plays by the same rules. If you suck, you suck, and that's it.

[Jailblazers7]

Are we talking about 1867?

We're talking about now, and the use of 'historically black colleges', TODAY. Not 150 years ago. Now.

And schools across the country have lowered their standards for blacks. They dont need to score the same as whites or Asians to be admitted. Isn't that embarrassing? To be told you don't have to be as good, just marginally good, to be accepted? Wouldn't you be ashamed to be walking around campus knowing everyone there scored an acceptable score but you?

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html

True story, black students dont have to be nearly as good as whites or Asians to be admitted to the same schools. The schools have LOWERED their admission cut off point for blacks because.... diversity. :facepalm

And I'm talking about the root of the phrase and why it is such an important part of the identity of some universities. It's not that complicated.

[ROCSteady]

Roll. ****in Tide. Lol


Nah but Greek culture at major universities is wack.

These hoes think they're smart and enlightened yet they limit themselves to dudes in particular frats and get hammered drunk and get run through by the athletics teams LOLz

I ain't mad at em doe. Go get yours shawty

[UK2K]

And I'm talking about the root of the phrase and why it is such an important part of the identity of some universities. It's not that complicated.

Ok, but we are talking about today. It's not that complicated.

A school claiming to be a 'historically white college' would be racist, yes or no? Even if it's true.

[ROCSteady]

What a bunch of terrible bitches. Being pretty, white and straight on purpose. I bet they're probably Christians too. Have they no decency?


:roll: :roll:

This shit is golden. Cracking up in the library.


:rockon:

[ROCSteady]

I was at a party at UK's campus one time, and in walked John Wall and Demarcus Cousins. Wall walks in and says....

"So who wants to suck my dick?"

And... well, then I didn't see him again. The end.

True story.

:applause:


The Wizards will have success because their franchise player is alpha, assertive and doesn't mince intentions.

I'm so proud of Wall. Great man too

[Godzuki]

wow not even 1 token azn or black chick out of like a 100 bitches :wtf:

and the one dude is black which basically means they like black dikk :coleman:

[NumberSix]

Get rid of the AA bullshit. If you can get into the school, you get in. If you can't, you can't.
I agree if it's a school that has public funding. But if it's a private institution, if they want to place a priority on "diversity", why shouldn't they have the freedom to do that? :confusedshrug:

[STATUTORY]

Ok, but we are talking about today. It's not that complicated.

A school claiming to be a 'historically white college' would be racist, yes or no? Even if it's true.

all school with the exception of the historically black ones are historically white, they don't need to claim it because HBCU are the exceptions to the norm. Talk about a nonissue

[UK2K]

I agree if it's a school that has public funding. But if it's a private institution, if they want to place a priority on "diversity", why shouldn't they have the freedom to do that? :confusedshrug:
I don't have a problem with privately funded anything making any type of rules.

Is Yale privately funded? I don't know.

The educational system in California isn't.

[UK2K]

all school with the exception of the historically black ones are historically white, they don't need to claim it because HBCU are the exceptions to the norm. Talk about a nonissue
So would it be okay if they claimed it?

Since its true?

[STATUTORY]

So would it be okay if they claimed it?

Since its true?

nothing is stopping them from claiming it, but universities don't want to because they don't take pride in that heritage, whereas HBCU have reasons to advertise their past.

[Bankaii]

nothing is stopping them from claiming it, but universities don't want to because they don't take pride in that heritage, whereas HBCU have reasons to advertise their past.
Wow someone on the OTC forum that isn't an idiot.

[GimmeThat]

Are we talking about 1867?

We're talking about now, and the use of 'historically black colleges', TODAY. Not 150 years ago. Now.

And schools across the country have lowered their standards for blacks. They dont need to score the same as whites or Asians to be admitted. Isn't that embarrassing? To be told you don't have to be as good, just marginally good, to be accepted? Wouldn't you be ashamed to be walking around campus knowing everyone there scored an acceptable score but you?

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html

True story, black students dont have to be nearly as good as whites or Asians to be admitted to the same schools. The schools have LOWERED their admission cut off point for blacks because.... diversity. :facepalm

lets say if I were to rephrase this statement. to say that students who comes from a background where they have/had been stuck in lower social-economic status, may develop slower in comparison to other those that of the same age. how would you feel about your statement? if you were 18 years old, and they asked you, would you prefer 'money' or 'opportunity', what would you say? since I'm taking a frog leap forward that saying the modern world now is different than the world before BECAUSE of the events in which had happened, which only makes revision inevitable. But hey, lets call it/that change if that suits the agenda. And yes, some people do receive both money AND opportunity.

but before we go on about how the Asians are classified as "model minorities" to speak strictly on the topic of race, I am also quite unaware that Asians had been known/attempt to gather power in America through the traditional white/black ways.

which probably just goes along with the abnormal high rate of tutoring at a younger age, in which its attempt to enter into a better college, and feeling being discriminated. only to discover the amount of those who graduate, enter the real world, and can't handle the responsibility. Not that people are still foolish enough to believe that responsibilities and pressure are that of the same thing (or are they?)

but hey, make it an issue about race.


"most people don't listen to the most intelligent person in the room, but they listen to those who appear to know what they are talking about"

"peace if possible, but truth at any rate"

[GimmeThat]

I agree if it's a school that has public funding. But if it's a private institution, if they want to place a priority on "diversity", why shouldn't they have the freedom to do that? :confusedshrug:

it would be safe to assume that even on the subject of diversity, it is important to respect the privacy of others, correct?

not that that would be an ironic way to encourage utilizing public funding towards such cause.

[UK2K]

lets say if I were to rephrase this statement. to say that students who comes from a background where they have/had been stuck in lower social-economic status, may develop slower in comparison to other those that of the same age. how would you feel about your statement? if you were 18 years old, and they asked you, would you prefer 'money' or 'opportunity', what would you say? since I'm taking a frog leap forward that saying the modern world now is different than the world before BECAUSE of the events in which had happened, which only makes revision inevitable. But hey, lets call it/that change if that suits the agenda. And yes, some people do receive both money AND opportunity.

but before we go on about how the Asians are classified as "model minorities" to speak strictly on the topic of race, I am also quite unaware that Asians had been known/attempt to gather power in America through the traditional white/black ways.

which probably just goes along with the abnormal high rate of tutoring at a younger age, in which its attempt to enter into a better college, and feeling being discriminated. only to discover the amount of those who graduate, enter the real world, and can't handle the responsibility. Not that people are still foolish enough to believe that responsibilities and pressure are that of the same thing (or are they?)

but hey, make it an issue about race.


"most people don't listen to the most intelligent person in the room, but they listen to those who appear to know what they are talking about"

"peace if possible, but truth at any rate"

So, they're dumber?

And because you're black doesn't automatically make you impoverished. I grew up poorer than dirt, but I didn't get my 'you grew up in a shitty area' bonus.

If you wanted to look at each applicant on a case by case basis, maybe their parents tax returns, that's understandable. But to blanket an entire race with a bonus and lax standards just because, is not equality. It's pity.

You're too dumb to get in, so we'll make it easier for you.

[GimmeThat]

So, they're dumber?

And because you're black doesn't automatically make you impoverished. I grew up poorer than dirt, but I didn't get my 'you grew up in a shitty area' bonus.

to your first question: so does tutoring improve scores or not? because if tutoring doesn't improve scores, than yes, they ARE dumber.

to your second question: so once again, I've asked you, if you grew up poorer than dirt, and I told you, you now have can have not just the money, but also the opportunity, what would you say? But logically, you wouldn't say opportunity, because that automatically qualifies yourself for volunteering to walk around feeling embarrassed and shameful. (who knows, people are into that sort of stuff)


As to my prior answer, it is intended to state that I rather help a redneck who tries to be different, than some rich black kids.

and yes, it actually takes committed time and effort to apply for a top university. if these top ranked universities' recruiters can't tell that through their recruiting/selection process. not even God can help where the U.S. will be ranked internationally.

[Nick Young]

lets say if I were to rephrase this statement. to say that students who comes from a background where they have/had been stuck in lower social-economic status, may develop slower in comparison to other those that of the same age. how would you feel about your statement? if you were 18 years old, and they asked you, would you prefer 'money' or 'opportunity', what would you say? since I'm taking a frog leap forward that saying the modern world now is different than the world before BECAUSE of the events in which had happened, which only makes revision inevitable. But hey, lets call it/that change if that suits the agenda. And yes, some people do receive both money AND opportunity.

but before we go on about how the Asians are classified as "model minorities" to speak strictly on the topic of race, I am also quite unaware that Asians had been known/attempt to gather power in America through the traditional white/black ways.

which probably just goes along with the abnormal high rate of tutoring at a younger age, in which its attempt to enter into a better college, and feeling being discriminated. only to discover the amount of those who graduate, enter the real world, and can't handle the responsibility. Not that people are still foolish enough to believe that responsibilities and pressure are that of the same thing (or are they?)

but hey, make it an issue about race.


"most people don't listen to the most intelligent person in the room, but they listen to those who appear to know what they are talking about"

"peace if possible, but truth at any rate"
So basically, you believe it is best to infantilize and patronize all black people. In your world view, it is better to assume that all black people are inherently stupider than everyone else, based on the color of their skin, than it is to treat everyone equally?

[GimmeThat]

So, they're dumber?

And because you're black doesn't automatically make you impoverished. I grew up poorer than dirt, but I didn't get my 'you grew up in a shitty area' bonus.

If you wanted to look at each applicant on a case by case basis, maybe their parents tax returns, that's understandable. But to blanket an entire race with a bonus and lax standards just because, is not equality. It's pity.

You're too dumb to get in, so we'll make it easier for you.




since I'm taking a frog leap forward that saying the modern world now is different than the world before BECAUSE of the events in which had happened, which only makes revision inevitable. But hey, lets call it/that change if that suits the agenda. And yes, some people do receive both money AND opportunity.



there hasn't been enough of you, and it doesn't appear the lack of participation from people with similar traits from you, promises there WILL/would be an increase of participation from the likes of you.

so we'll make it easier for you.


can policy makers artificially create pioneers?

[Nick Young]

there hasn't been enough of you, and it doesn't appear the lack of participation from people with similar traits from you, promises there WILL/would be an increase of participation from the likes of you.

so we'll make it easier for you.


can policy makers artificially create pioneers?
So you are saying that skin color should allow under-qualified people who didn't work hard in their lives to gain positions and scholarships over people who have more qualifications and experience and worked harder, but have the wrong skin color?

[GimmeThat]

So basically, you believe it is best to infantilize and patronize all black people. In your world view, it is better to assume that all black people are inherently stupider than everyone else, based on the color of their skin, than it is to treat everyone equally?


or people who had been historically discriminated against tend to end up being more capable than what is being known.

and my point is still that, do you think asking someone a question in which people might find true decades ago, and now ask the same question, would be deemed appropriate. because one once supported such policy, and now its very own right to revise its answer/thought process is being questioned, as if those who felt unjust then, wants to utilize such opportunity to press charge in making stupidity out of someone, to show that they were right all long.

As such case would only stand true if no one benefited from such policy years ago, and that going to your ideal school and to a second ranked school is being treated as a zero sum game. which I would leave those others who read my comment to determine what it means to have an "extreme" point of view.

[Nick Young]

or people who had been historically discriminated against tend to end up being more capable than what is being known.

70 years ago, the Jewish people were put in to death camps and mass executed by the millions. Do you believe that Jewish students, a group of people who have been historically discriminated against, should be given the same affirmative action benefits of other disadvantaged minorities?

I cannot think of a people who have been more historically discriminated against than the Jews. Where are the affirmative action laws helping Jewish students get in ahead of other people with better grades than them in high school?

[GimmeThat]

So you are saying that skin color should allow under-qualified people who didn't work hard in their lives to gain positions and scholarships over people who have more qualifications and experience and worked harder, but have the wrong skin color?

if they pride themselves as an educational facility/organization. A slogan even utilized by the U.S. military.

then it's certainly worth being discussed and explored.


since those are some serious terms worth defining. not that I am eagerly to blurt out the statement that higher education isn't a right immediately.

[Nick Young]

if they pride themselves as an educational facility/organization. A slogan even utilized by the U.S. military.

then it's certainly worth being discussed and explored.


since those are some serious terms worth defining. not that I am eagerly to blurt out the statement that higher education isn't a right immediately.
So you believe that black people are inherently academically worse than non-black people?

That's disgusting and despicable.
It seems like the only racist in this thread is you.

Thank you for being honest about your beliefs.

[GimmeThat]

70 years ago, the Jewish people were put in to death camps and mass executed by the millions. Do you believe that Jewish students, a group of people who have been historically discriminated against, should be given the same affirmative action benefits of other disadvantaged minorities?

I cannot think of a people who have been more historically discriminated against than the Jews. Where are the affirmative action laws helping Jewish students get in ahead of other people with better grades than them in high school?

if you were to truly argue specifically on this topic. Then the only ideal/logical solution would be to create a fund designed specifically to the breeding of the Jews. No?

While I can't personally state that the U.S. media has done enough of its job to make jews desirable as a breeding partner state side.

But it is true, perhaps the German National Bank could create a loan program designed specifically for Jews in raising extra children. As to the detail of it, that is to be brought up with the U.N. council, especially if there still feels to be a huge differentials from the damage its cost since 70 years ago, with the treaties that was signed then.

[GimmeThat]

So you believe that black people are inherently academically worse than non-black people?

That's disgusting and despicable.
It seems like the only racist in this thread is you.

Thank you for being honest about your beliefs.

I also think that education through the school system is the only path to gaining control of wealth and power hasn't been a very first world idea/thought process for some time now.

I could be wrong, as I do not speak for all citizens that of the first world.

[Nick Young]

if you were to truly argue specifically on this topic. Then the only ideal/logical solution would be to create a fund designed specifically to the breeding of the Jews. No?

While I can't personally state that the U.S. media has done enough of its job to make jews desirable as a breeding partner state side.

But it is true, perhaps the German National Bank could create a loan program designed specifically for Jews in raising extra children. As to the detail of it, that is to be brought up with the U.N. council, especially if there still feels to be a huge differentials from the damage its cost since 70 years ago, with the treaties that was signed then.
Surely US affirmative action laws should be designed to benefit Jews as much as they benefit black people right? It's all about helping those poor oppressed minorities.

[Nick Young]

I also think that education through the school system is the only path to gaining control of wealth and power hasn't been a very first world idea/thought process for some time now.

I could be wrong, as I do not speak for all citizens that of the first world.
Why do you believe this? Many of the worlds richest people are billionaires who either never attended university or dropped out.

[UK2K]

70 years ago, the Jewish people were put in to death camps and mass executed by the millions. Do you believe that Jewish students, a group of people who have been historically discriminated against, should be given the same affirmative action benefits of other disadvantaged minorities?

I cannot think of a people who have been more historically discriminated against than the Jews. Where are the affirmative action laws helping Jewish students get in ahead of other people with better grades than them in high school?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

[QUOTE]The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland

[Nick Young]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076



Why don't the Irish get bonus points? Take one guess.
There is even a retarded professor who tried to teach his kids that Irish never experienced discrimination. They were enslaved. They were genocided against, and then when they came to America in relatively recent times, they were discriminated against just like black people.

http://www.longislandwins.com/columns/detail/high_school_student_proves_professor_wrong_when_he _denied_no_irish_need_app

Where are the reparations and affirmative action laws for the Irish? Why are there laws actively working against Chinese Americans, another minority group that was discriminated against in recent history?

How long does the affirmative action benefits from the "black people were slaves before 1860" argument last?

Who is the great arbiter who decides which oppressed minorities get the free hand outs and opportunities they don't deserve, and which minorities don't?

These retards like GimmeThat always shut down and disappear when their own racist logic is thrown back in their face.

[GimmeThat]

Who is the great arbiter who decides which oppressed minorities get the free hand outs and opportunities they don't deserve, and which minorities don't?

These retards like GimmeThat always shut down and disappear when their own racist logic is thrown back in their face.

who are the people that are oppressing others, and why are there people still being oppressed?

if you were to criticize my logic, please feel free to summarize it at first.


"NOUS LE PEUPLE"

well, the people are surely retarded.

next up from 'the people' "we are not oppressing others!!!"
or, "since everyone is oppressing others, no such thing as anyone being oppressed"

because, treating all sins as purely equal, not just theoretically, but practically, really isn't extreme at all.

[Nick Young]

who are the people that are oppressing others, and why are there people still being oppressed?

if you were to criticize my logic, please feel free to summarize it at first.


"NOUS LE PEUPLE"

well, the people are surely retarded.
Obviously, the first estate imperialist CIS gender white patriarchy, AMIRITE BRO? HIGH FIVE!
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