The case against fraud and sham commited by member Shade8780

[kNIOKAS]

Since that guy cannot keep his own thread from getting derailed I'm mounting my own defense case here. It's going be a defense case that I am going to launch into counter-offense case, because the evidence is sufficient not to only dismiss his claims as presented here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384515), but to incriminate him of shady (no pun intended, how fitting tho) gambling and forum use pracises.

Shade8780 is a liar, a fraudster and a mobster

I am basing my claim on the International Contract Law, as universally accepted in all the 193 legitimate countries worldwide and official governments of their respective sovereigns.

THE CLAIM #1:
The contract, in this case the bet is valid for an agreed period of time, commencing from the point where the winner of the bet is known as the outcome of the bet is declared official. These are the implicit rules of the betting online, that everybody follows unless agreed otherwise in-writing.

In Shade8780 vs kNIOKAS, the bet was agreed to be an one-month avy trial. Shade8780 came back to kNIOKAS one and a half month later and asked to wear an avatar for another month.

kNIOKAS claims that is his right to not be bond to the outdated bets and be held hostage to Shade8780's will to inflict the avatar at any time of Shade8780's personal choosing. That is not how contracts work.

Analog: If a company A agrees with company B to exchange supplies for a fixed period of time, the deal sets in to start counting from the day it was agreed upon. A company B cannot show up after the time runs out, present its own part of the supplies and require the other party to start exchanging based on the outdated terms. That would be seen as a major violation of the Contract Law and its established precendents.


Chronology:
07-11-2015, 11:54 PM Shade8780 offers an open bet

Will there be streams tonight? I usually don't watch live.

Conor's winning guys. Avy bet on it.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11568328&postcount=6814

07-12-2015, 12:24 AM I accept his offer, bargaining on the time frame:

I take it. What period? 6 months?

I got my 13 euros on Mendes too.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11568416&postcount=6816

07-12-2015, 01:36 AM Shade8780 is seen willing to bet an avy for a month

6 months? Jesus Christ

1 month.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11568579&postcount=6819

07-12-2015, 02:10 AM I accept the 1 month bet:

Ok deal.

they stream all types of events on firstrow, will have to wait until the action time or find something else if you demand higher quality.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11568633&postcount=6822




Relapse
That was the last I heard of him until yesterday, 04:45 PM using slurs and expletive language to swear on me and wanting to claim the 1-month bet deal that was agreed on 12th of July, one and a half month ago (47 days ago to be precise).

You're fvcking hilarious, now go change to the ***** avy bitch.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11656741&postcount=38984

I promptly responded Yesterday, 05:36 PM to point out that the deal has already gone past its date as well as there are a few other inaccuracies, and thus for I am ineligible to answer his demands:

A. No pm from you
B. No ava from you
C. The bet was placed 47 days ago. We agreed on a month, didn't we?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11656808&postcount=38990

This board member Shade8780 then responded with a fierce PR attack on my and my person and organized an online-mobbing group targeted at making me give in to his illegal demands. I am afraid it did no good as far as them achieving theirs, but serves as an incriminating piece of evidence in this trial. I present the second claim of my side.


CLAIM #2
Shade8780 used social and psychological pressure as well as consipired other members of the community to force kNIOKAS into illegal (see CLAIM #1) interpretation of bet laws and bond him to an outdated deal.

Aggravating circumstances
Exhibit A: Shade8780's goon Alamo resulting to mobbing and intimidation since their fraudulent claim was denied
Yesterday, 10:22 PM
Gonna find kNIOkas' house after I find fake14's house. There's gonna be some violence
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11657395&postcount=39054
Then at Yesterday, 10:29 PM, seven minutes later he grasps what he has stated on an online forum and backpeddals:

jk this wasn't a threat
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11657406
Yet Alamo's malicious intent is evident on the latter post at Yesterday, 10:32 PM where he insinuates tracking me down to brutually assault and carry out a lynching act no matter the costs and reprecussions of doing it:

Yes. I don't care if it's expensive. You can't put a price on justice.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11657413

[GIF REACTION]

Oh boy.

Who got the popcorn?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/3382db6db4ac8d009ca4e9ed58146724/tumblr_nkrezha2H31s20efno1_400.gif

[SugarHill]

Shade8780's goon Alamo resulting to mobbing and intimidation since their fraudulent claim was denied

http://heydontjudgeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/frog-needs-help.gif

[kNIOKAS]

CLAIM #3

A person of unknown identity tried to scam kNIOKAS into using an avatar by claiming he was Shade8780 that kNIOKAS had bet bonds at the time. kNIOKAS did not give in into a shady fraud (again no pun, but you look at it) since the board member Shade8780 was banned from the forum, and could not be using it.

Analog: If Company A makes a deal with Company B, but Company B gets investigated by IRS and has its licence suspended and a monetary bankrupcy declared, Company A has its dealings with Company B suspended by default. A different company, lets call it Company C cannot then enter to the game and claim benefits of the deal from Company A to Company B, because it has nothing to do with Company B. They are two separate judicial entities.

It would be unfair to Company B if/when back in business asking from Company A to pay its dues get an answer "But I paid to Company C".

Therefore, kNIOKAS was right to suspending his dues to the claims of an anonymous user Immortal Nemesis, because he was uncertain of the identity of this person.

Exhibit B Immortal Nemesis claiming he's Shade8780:
http://i.imgur.com/4NWMQX6.png
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11598810&postcount=23152

Please pay attention that the namely user did not paste a screenshot off the browser, but edited it under MS Paint software. That takes from the credibility of the screenshot, since it was digitally altered to add scribbled quote:
**** u KNIOKAS. Who knows what else could have been altered in that image. We for the very least are sure that the evidence was tampered with when edited in MS Paint.

Exhibit C Prominent members of the board being confused of the identity of Immortal Nemesis, thus confirming the shady use of the account:

Wait...let me get this straight...


ImmortalNemesis...

Originally Belonged to YGS
Then Shade
Now RTC?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11637122&postcount=33954

08-09-2015, 06:39 PM Suspect memberm Immortal Nemesis responding in a defensive compromised manner:

i'm not f*cking rtc god dammit people
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11637133&postcount=33962

08-09-2015, 06:40 PM RRR3 is still confused about who is writing to him from the other side:

Who are you then
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11637135&postcount=33963

08-09-2015, 06:42 PM Suspect answers angrilily in a dissmissive manner, likely infurated by the expore:

im done f*ck you guys
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11637143&postcount=33968

08-09-2015, 06:42 PM Suspicion arises even among ranks of OG BTE emmbers:

that's sounds like something rtc would say
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11637142&postcount=33967


I think this is sufficient evidence that not only Shade8780 might have been using an alternative account - to his own claims - when actually banned under the Forum rules, therefore bypassing the legal code of the online community, but even if he did, he was not beyond reasonable doubt to be identified as the same member Shade8780, which is then is still not enough for me to cave in to his demands since it would be illegal to use re-transfer practise as illustrated in CLAIM #3 of retransferring dues to another judicial entity so that the original one bypasses the control of IRS.

[kNIOKAS]

when someone says avy bet for a week or avy bet for a month
they usually mean the duration of how long the loser has to wear an avatar of the winners choice

so when you first offered "6 months" you really meant that the winner has 6 months to claim the avatar for the loser? so lets say if shade had agreed to the 6 months..

hypothetically 5 months and 25 days later, shade could have said he wants to claim the avy bet now and then you'd determine the timeframe of how long the loser has to hold the avatar right then? what if shade said you have to wear the new avatar for a year? but you didnt want to... then the bet is void again?

very strange...
No, that is not the point.

The point is Shade8780 cannot hold his won bet to his advantage and make me a hostage of that bond. He cannot come whenever he wants and ask for me to use an ava for the time period agreed on the original bet. His claims are valid only for the time period from the point where the outcome of the bet is known to the extent of the time agreed in the bet.

When I was making a bet I did not assume I would be asked to wear it through mid-August to mid-September. Since the bet was made in early-mid-July, I was expecting it to end by the middle of August.

One cannot come ten years later and ask another party to carry out terms when back in the day they agreed for a month-long dealing. It's not how contracts work.

[kNIOKAS]

you did also say this

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11598797&postcount=23148
It wasn't to be taken literally.

Again, I do not expect Shade8780 to come five years later and demand me to do his stupid bet because he only then figured out it is a good time. I might have other things to do in life by that time.

why would you say deal without knowing how long you have to hold the avatar for if you lost?

that's like making a bet without knowing the potential of what you are going to lose/win
Because some things are widely conventional, therefore implicit and not stated in the contracts. If we were to make a bet from a scratch don't you know how awful of a task would it be? We'd need to write a whole New Constitution everytime somebody bets an avy or whatnot.

[kNIOKAS]

ok so what did you think you were losing if you lost the bet?
Wow you must have a hard case of everything. Care to read?

I was betting on Shade8780 using an ava for a month of my choosing or vice versa for a month depending on the outcome of UFC 189: Mendes vs McGregor.

[imdaman99]

lol the curious case of an avy bet gone wrong on Insidehoops

[Giaodollo]

tl:dr - ITT: Shade is a next level bitch.

[kNIOKAS]

show me the post where you guys agree to the one month timeframe to claim the bet

and show me the post where you guys agree on that the loser has to wear the avatar for a month of the winners choosing
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11658596&postcount=8

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11658598&postcount=9

What a headcase. Who hired you? Shade8780?

[Shade8780]

How long, in your mind, were you allowed to have the avy for?

[Shade8780]

no.. im just curious

i just dont think the bet existed in the first place

you guys never agreed on how long a loser has to change his avatar for

cuz it sounds like when you offered 6 months and he replied 1 month, you guys were talking about two different things
He didn't actually mean that originally. He's a bitch who won't own up to the bet and is trying to find a new way to dodge it.

[kNIOKAS]

no.. im just curious

i just dont think the bet existed in the first place

you guys never agreed on how long a loser has to change his avatar for

cuz it sounds like when you offered 6 months and he replied 1 month, you guys were talking about two different things
We were bargaining about the duration of the compulsary avatar-using time under the implicit assumption it starts from the moment the winner is known. Otherwise it would be unfair to the loser that the winner can hold him hostage so to speak and claim his win any time he wants. That is beyond the control of the loser, therefore it is implicit in betting that the duration starts from the moment the winner is known.

I offered him 6 months bet, he countered with 1 month, I accepted.


Although you're a smart dude jayda, I think I could incorporate some of your points...

[Giaodollo]

Can we just like step out of this argument and realize you three have been putting several hours of discussion regarding why a man didn't choose to have a pen!s as his avatar and then like just forget about it?

[Shade8780]

**** YOU JEFF

[Derka]

I'd just like to point out that someone in this thread's avatar is a fuzzy dick and that's pretty funny.

Carry on.

[BlakFrankWhite]

So much cringe.

The entire OP...should be put in the cringe thread

[Alamо]

Avy bets are so meaningless now. What's the point of even making one if you know 50% of the posters on here are bitches like kniokas and won't honor the bet but would expect you too?

[kNIOKAS]

Avy bets are so meaningless now. What's the point of even making one if you know 50% of the posters on here are bitches like kniokas and won't honor the bet but would expect you too?
This doesn't even make sense.


I am a bit dissapointed because I expected to dish out justice on Shade8780 way harder than it happened now. Jayda kinda played the role of a judge but didn't really go deep and listen to me. He was kind of a mediator, and rendered the Jury unnecessary.

[GIF REACTION]

I don't know what to believe anymore

[Shade8780]

He's either a really good troll, or a sad fvck. Either way, he's still a sad fvck.

Why are you taking this so seriously? Why are you bringing the "International Contract Law" into this? God.

[Alamо]

shade got banned, and since he wasn't around, you say the bet cant be claimed

nothing to argue :confusedshrug:



Why would Shade need to be here for kniokas to use an avy? The only rules to an avy bet are "you lose, you use the avy that the winner picked for the agreed upon amount of time." That's it, it's not that hard.

[Derka]

I think it was...2012 Eastern Conference Semi's where GOBB and I had an avy bet for the Celtics/Sixers series.

He welched on it.

I got over it about 20 seconds later. I think I busted his balls on it once but he probably doesn't remember. :oldlol:

Moral of the Story: dafuq are you doing?

[Alamо]

oh i agree with you wholeheartedly

but theres no way of convincing Kniokas otherwise

i have no idea why hes making an avy bet so complicated.

just take the L, be a man of your word


I was directing that post to the jury.


I wouldn't have a problem with this if kniokas just striaght up said "I'm a bitch, I'm not going to honor the avy bet." I mean he's pretty much saying that, but I want him to just straight up say it because we all know that's the true reason behind all this. Know what I'm sayin?

[kNIOKAS]

shade got banned, and since he wasn't around, you say the bet cant be claimed

nothing to argue :confusedshrug:
Yes but he might or might not have been behind compromised ImmortalNemesis account, trying to push me to commit fraud and retransfer my obligations based on his banned-self words.

It sets really a bad precedent I think. Getting banned, but wanting the benefits be transfered to another account. The whole situation is ridiculous.

What if you bet under on account, lose, change the avy but then get banned and therefore the avy is not getting the expected exposure for the agreed time? I think this could be solved by an extension of a bet in a similar situation, yet I just argued how it then becomes unfair for the loser to get the terms imposed at the time that he did not control.

What if you bet under one account, lose, get to use an avy but keep using the alternative account for the time so the avy doesn't get the expected exposure? Renders betting useless.


Why would Shade need to be here for kniokas to use an avy? The only rules to an avy bet are "you lose, you use the avy that the winner picked for the agreed upon amount of time." That's it, it's not that hard.
Because it is not right the other way around, stupid. What are you trying to achieve here?

[Alamо]

well thats good to know for when/if people make an avy bet with you ever again

i think you're the only one worrying about stuff like that :oldlol:



No one is ever gonna make any kind of bet with this guy again.


I could see him making a money bet with one of his friends(if he has any) over a sports game, but not giving up the money because his friend was out of town when the game happened.

[kNIOKAS]

No one is ever gonna make any kind of bet with this guy again.


I could see him making a money bet with one of his friends(if he has any) over a sports game, but not giving up the money because his friend was out of town when the game happened.
That's a strawman. Sorry but you have no law training nor mental capabilities to speak on this level.

[BurningHammer]

tl:dr - ITT: Shade is a next level bitch.

[falc39]

So since Shade was banned OP decides to suspend having to use avatar. But when Shade is reinstated OP makes no effort to honor original avy bet. Not cool.

Not to mention the ridiculousness of mentioning international contract law on a 1 month avy bet. Who does that??? It's just a month and would be pretty much over by now. But instead, we get this drawn out squabbling over something so trivial. Hilarious.

[kNIOKAS]

So since Shade was banned OP decides to suspend having to use avatar. But when Shade is reinstated OP makes no effort to honor original avy bet. Not cool.

Not to mention the ridiculousness of mentioning international contract law on a 1 month avy bet. Who does that??? It's just a month and would be pretty much over by now. But instead, we get this drawn out squabbling over something so trivial. Hilarious.
Wow can you read? Shade8780 came one and a half month late to claim his bet.

[falc39]

Wow can you read? Shade8780 came one and a half month late to claim his bet.

That is a reasonable time frame. It's pretty obvious you knew he was banned and used that to dodge getting out of the terms completely. In this thread you extrapolated this and said it would be unreasonable for someone to come 5 years later and claim their bet. That is true but one and a half months is very reasonable considering the circumstances. The wiser thing for you would be to honor it in good faith, not writing up walls of text about international contract law just to get out of a silly 1 month avatar bet.

[RidonKs]

Avy bets are so meaningless now.
Quote Of The Thread

[BlakFrankWhite]

No one is ever gonna make any kind of bet with this guy again.


I could see him making a money bet with one of his friends(if he has any) over a sports game, but not giving up the money because his friend was out of town when the game happened.

I doubt anyone wants to even talk with OP.

Definition of bitch made

[ekosky]

OP is a fuccing loser.

Just wear the fuccing avatar already, poosyboy.

[kNIOKAS]

OP is a fuccing loser.

Just wear the fuccing avatar already, poosyboy.
wow it surely makes rednecks mad that there is a law around. Jesus Christ move to Greece you corrupt clans of hillbillies

[RRR3]

Dude wear the avy, this isn't a good look for you.

[ekosky]

wow it surely makes rednecks mad that there is a law around. Jesus Christ move to Greece you corrupt clans of hillbillies
Redneck lol

Just saying, bra. No need to taken offense to what I said. Quit being a little poosy, is all.

Do you want to be known as a poosy IRL and on here for the rest of your miserable life? What are you so afraid of? It's an avatar.

[Bandito]

I agree with kniokas after his rebuttal.

[Shade8780]

I agree with kniokas after his rebuttal.
go fk yourself you third world rent boy.

[kNIOKAS]

go fk yourself you third world rent boy.
Well contrary to your understanding the third world is bound by things like honour codes, while the first developed world operates under Law. I am sorry that you all so tribal on ISH, and want to force me to accept illegal terms on basis of a non-existant, archaic and arbitrary claims of honour.

A bet is a bet.
Thank you for your educated argument, tautology smuchk.

[Shade8780]

go

[Shade8780]

kill

[KNOW1EDGE]

We get it kNIOKAS-

You made a bet
You lost the bet

Some time passed and now your claiming a statute of limitations that does not exist on ISH.

You are a man of little to no honor or self-respect.

May the ISH Gods forever piss on your e-soul

[ImmortalNemesis]

yourself

[oh the horror]

There's only one way to solve this mess.


Kniokas and Shade must 69 one another, each placing their d*cks in the other's mouths. This is the only way this can work.



Take pictures of this event gentlemen and post it here

[Fire Colangelo]

The **** did I just read lol...

To bring international law for a ****ing avy bet? man up and honour your bet. It's an avatar on an online forum, who gives a shit?

[kNIOKAS]

We get it kNIOKAS-

You made a bet
You lost the bet

Some time passed and now your claiming a statute of limitations that does not exist on ISH.

You are a man of little to no honor or self-respect.

May the ISH Gods forever piss on your e-soul
It does exist, and I am the trailblazer who is to bring civilization to ISH. America wasn't built on lawlessness, neither could the online forum like this. You cannot forfeit the power of a civil society by merely claiming it does not exist. It will son, you bet your worst it will

[DonDadda59]

Shade = The Teflon Don. His goons got goons. :pimp:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Wooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, op is a bitch forreal. Who the hell gets that upset over an avatar bet?

[Knicks101]

OP getting negged into oblivion when rep comes back.

[ArbitraryWater]

Just touched down in Shade's country

[Bandito]

There's only one way to solve this mess.


Kniokas and Shade must 69 one another, each placing their d*cks in the other's mouths. This is the only way this can work.



Take pictures of this event gentlemen and post it here
I agree with this

[Bandito]

But he agree to a period of one month. He didn't agree to anything else. The month passed so that was that.

He played technicality against shade.

[Shade8780]

I offered him the deal of one month of wearing the avy. He accepted it. I offered the deal, not him, and as far as I'm concerned, there was no deadline to when I could give him the avy.

go fk yourself.

[Alamо]

OP getting negged into oblivion when rep comes back.


This

[warriorfan]

https://therepublika.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/jackie-chiles-seinfeld-phil-morris-mustache.jpg

[ballup]

All rise for judge ballup. You all may now sit.

After reviewing both the prosecution's and the defenses' claims, I have made a sound decision. There are multiple claims and testimonies that the user we call shade was still present on ISH during his ban. The court finds these claims to be truth. The original bet does not include any indication of a start date. There is no disbute over the record of the original betting quotes either. Thus, there is no limit as to when the payout can be taken.

The defendant must adhere to the avy bet. The court also demands that once this has been done, the prosecution and affiliates must cease badgering the defendant. If the defendant does not meet the requirements, the court shall motion the request to brand him as "fvckboi".

This case is dismissed

[Batzman]

shut it down.

[kNIOKAS]

All rise for judge ballup. You all may now sit.

After reviewing both the prosecution's and the defenses' claims, I have made a sound decision. There are multiple claims and testimonies that the user we call shade was still present on ISH during his ban. The court finds these claims to be truth. The original bet does not include any indication of a start date. There is no disbute over the record of the original betting quotes either. Thus, there is no limit as to when the payout can be taken.

The defendant must adhere to the avy bet. The court also demands that once this has been done, the prosecution and affiliates must cease badgering the defendant. If the defendant does not meet the requirements, the court shall motion the request to brand him as "fvckboi".

This case is dismissed
Ur hn,

http://i62.tinypic.com/206yccy.jpg
I want to point out the contradictionary premises of the verdict.


1) Under what evidence it is proved that the spoken member Shade8780 was on the forum during his ban? The presented evidence Exhibit B shows that identity cannot be identified by the best of the experts.

2) If the spoken member Shade8780 was present during his ban, why did he postpone claiming the bet? The fact that he willingly did not collect the winnings makes him eligible for the negligence and dishonouring the bet.

3) It is stated that Shade8780 was actually present during his ban. If assumed so, does that not put Shade8780 responsible of trespassing and avoiding his official duty of obeying the law, thus staying away from ISH until ban expires? Why would kNIOKAS then honour the bet with a person that has no honour himself? The reciprocacy principle is the essence of a lawful system.

I will be looking to appeal the verdict when I get an answer from Ur Hn.

[Shade8780]

this case is dismissed fgt you lost

[kNIOKAS]

this case is dismissed fgt you lost
I have a good case. If anything, you should be punished for being banned but still visiting the forum. Just say "case dismissed" isn't good enough - it has to be grounded on a reason of Law.

[ballup]

Ur hn,

http://i62.tinypic.com/206yccy.jpg
I want to point out the contradictionary premises of the verdict.


1) Under what evidence it is proved that the spoken member Shade8780 was on the forum during his ban? The presented evidence Exhibit B shows that identity cannot be identified by the best of the experts.

2) If the spoken member Shade8780 was present during his ban, why did he postpone claiming the bet? The fact that he willingly did not collect the winnings makes him eligible for the negligence and dishonouring the bet.

3) It is stated that Shade8780 was actually present during his ban. If assumed so, does that not put Shade8780 responsible of trespassing and avoiding his official duty of obeying the law, thus staying away from ISH until ban expires? Why would kNIOKAS then honour the bet with a person that has no honour himself? The reciprocacy principle is the essence of a lawful system.

I will be looking to appeal the verdict when I get an answer from Ur Hn.
I have made my verdict and because I have done so, you are not allowed to directly address me about this case any further. Any more attempts to do so will result in me holding you in contempt of this court.

You can motion an appeal, but we currently do not have a system to support that currently.

[kNIOKAS]

I have made my verdict and because I have done so, you are not allowed to directly address me about this case any further. Any more attempts to do so will result in me holding you in contempt of this court.

You can motion an appeal, but we currently do not have a system to support that currently.
Appeal in motion,

Will be addressed as soon as the system gets in motion.

I am also changing my avatar in motion. It wasn't agreed when would I change my ava, only the duration of it.

[Shade8780]

BUMP

Get to negging, folks.

THIS MAN, KNIOKAS, DODGED AN AVY BET

ARE WE GONNA ALLOW THIS

[Giaodollo]

I say we forgive kNiokas. The man has said sorry plenty of times and even taking you up on your offer. We all make mistakes, but what defines a man is his willingness to forgive those who have made regrettable mistakes. Holding on to anger and resentment only gives you tense muscles, a headache and a sore jaw. Forgiveness gives you back the laughter and the lightness in your life. Because. my friends, if we cannot forgive a man, then what does that make us? savages!

As my good friend Alexander said, "to make mistakes is humane, to forgive is divine." Be divine Shade.

[Shade8780]

damn

[Draz]

Courts in session btches

[JohnFreeman]

As Shades wife I will make a statement later

[Giaodollo]

Courts in session btches
I have said my piece, now I will pray for the divinity of Shade to take form. I know Shade, I know he has greatness in his heart, the price of eminence is responsibility, responsibility that it takes to forgive a man in deep sorrow.

[gigantes]

BUMP

Get to negging, folks.

THIS MAN, KNIOKAS, DODGED AN AVY BET

ARE WE GONNA ALLOW THIS
let's not forget that kniokas offered a repeat avy bet with you for conor - aldo, but you disappeared at the time. so i stepped in on yours / conor's behalf and took the bet. so if aldo had won, i'd still be wearing an aldo avatar right now. instead, do you see that kniokas is duly sporting a conor avy...?


so i propose the following-- be the proactive party here and offer a fresh avy bet for conor vs. RDA. if kniokas declines for whatever reason, i will take his place in that bet, gambling on RDA.

my understanding would be that shortly after the fight is over, one of us would wear the opponent's champion for the next 30 days.

what say you?

[Waking_Life]

Im the one that had shade banned

[Draz]

I have said my piece, now I will pray for the divinity of Shade to take form. I know Shade, I know he has greatness in his heart, the price of eminence is responsibility, responsibility that it takes to forgive a man in deep sorrow.
I'll summon the God's to the courts sir.

[Nick Young]

http://i.imgur.com/FidZknJ.gif

[Pushxx]

http://rs265.pbsrc.com/albums/ii205/lassie_faire/GIF%20central/Eating%20Popcorn/scarjo_popcorn.gif~c200

[kNIOKAS]

let's not forget that kniokas offered a repeat avy bet with you for conor - aldo, but you disappeared at the time. so i stepped in on yours / conor's behalf and took the bet. so if aldo had won, i'd still be wearing an aldo avatar right now. instead, do you see that kniokas is duly sporting a conor avy...?


so i propose the following-- be the proactive party here and offer a fresh avy bet for conor vs. RDA. if kniokas declines for whatever reason, i will take his place in that bet, gambling on RDA.

my understanding would be that shortly after the fight is over, one of us would wear the opponent's champion for the next 30 days.

what say you?

RDA will tear McGregor's lungs out... I'm all up in that bet. I mean crazy that Connor agreed to it, he is a real show.


Im the one that had shade banned
All by a chain of coincidences, that have made him a lesser man, unless he muster for forgiveness.... How did that happen? How you played it?

[kNIOKAS]

And shade is nowhere to be seen. Again.

[ZeN]

RDA will tear McGregor's lungs out... I'm all up in that bet. I mean crazy that Connor agreed to it, he is a real show.


All by a chain of coincidences, that have made him a lesser man, unless he muster for forgiveness.... How did that happen? How you played it?
I claimed that he posted nudez

[kNIOKAS]

I claimed that he posted nudez
He can't stay away from the trouble no matter what... And I fell for making a bet with him :facepalm

[gigantes]

alright. once again i'll make the bet on his behalf-- if RDA beats McG, i'll wear an RDA avatar for the next 30 days.

deal, kniokas?

honestly not a great bet for me, of course. i'm really not sure conor knows what he's getting in to. he seems to think that just because he was a champ at 155 in another org, that he can get it done in the UFC. not to mention, modern RDA has looked like such a beast that i'm still not convinced he isn't on designer PED's.

conor's coach is even talking about him going up to 170 and beating robbie lawler. :facepalm

[gigantes]

nah. feck off yourself, mate.

not only did i bail you out before, but i've beaten you to the punch once again. kind of ironic since you claim to be a conor fan, eh?

i do think kniokas should ALSO let you in to the bet, but if you lose this time then your avatar should be a pic of a transvestite to teach you a lesson.

[highwhey]

With so much drama in the OTC it's kinda hard being Snoop D-O-Double G

[kNIOKAS]

alright. once again i'll make the bet on his behalf-- if RDA beats McG, i'll wear an RDA avatar for the next 30 days.

deal, kniokas?

honestly not a great bet for me, of course. i'm really not sure conor knows what he's getting in to. he seems to think that just because he was a champ at 155 in another org, that he can get it done in the UFC. not to mention, modern RDA has looked like such a beast that i'm still not convinced he isn't on designer PED's.

conor's coach is even talking about him going up to 170 and beating robbie lawler. :facepalm
Yeah but if Conor wins this one - he then also wins an another fan in me [despite his terrible silly mouth]. I'll even watch him, on mute. I really don't see why would he go against the killing machine of RDA. Crazy, but respectable.

Lawler would also beat him into the turf, but at least that's a striking match, with way more chances to land a successful punch, like happened with Aldo. But then again Lawler moves cautiously and measures everything... Yeah Conor larger than his own life.

I am doing a bet with you, no question.


hey fvck you gigantes and fvck you kniokas

this is my fvcking bet

kniokas you're a sly piece of shit trying to make me out to be the bitch in this scenario. why would anyone want to do an avy bet with you after all this?

only one running is you you fat eurotrash piece of shit

let's get it on mfer
Hold it. You've declined the offer last time, you got banned during our bet the time before that - I think you need to prove your integrity first. I am willing to do it if we can assure some safeguards, perhaps arrange the avatars in advance, make an official thread of commitment, that sort of thing.

Oh, and now you're cussing around too much to be respected. Show respect, to be respected.

[kNIOKAS]

btw, you didnt bail me out, you stole my thunder
If you ever had any thunder, it got banned multiple times now. I told you about respect already - use it.


If you have a betting offer for me, I'll hear it out. Go ahead.

[gigantes]

sorry no this is mine

i dont know why you're getting involved mate

btw, you didnt bail me out, you stole my thunder
see, the reason i think that a transvestite is perfect for you is because you're being such a drama queen about all this. :D

[kNIOKAS]

stop with the bs just yes or no

your avy
http://imgur.com/g21hBL1
:no: The posting of sexually-explicit material is strictly prohibited in the insidehoops.com forum. I guess it's fitting that you're Conor's fan, you are notorious after all. I will not report you this time but I hold no resposibility if someone else is less patient, and will.