2004 Pistons Revealed as Classic Team for NBA 2K16

[Rake2204]

http://detroitsportsnation.com/detroit-nba/rake2204/2004-pistons-to-be-featured-as-classic-team-on-nba-2k16/42382/

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Best defensive team of all time in the best defense era (2001-2004)

[PistonsFan#21]

top 5 greatest team of all time :bowdown:

[West-Side]

That's sick.
Are the 2002 Kings and 2000 Blazers in it???

No NBA fans can ever not respect nor appreciate that 04' Piston.
They embodied everything that's right with basketball.

Strong team defense, cohesion, ball movement. They were just deadly. :bowdown:

[Rocketswin2013]

Hopefully they're worth using. 2k teams with no star power are almost always easy to defeat.

[Rake2204]

That's sick.
Are the 2002 Kings and 2000 Blazers in it???

No NBA fans can ever not respect nor appreciate that 04' Piston.
They embodied everything that's right with basketball.

Strong team defense, cohesion, ball movement. They were just deadly. :bowdown:The 2000 Blazers will, in fact, be included this year. However, the 2002 Kings have not been present since 2K13, when Chris Webber and 2K failed to come to an agreement on license usage.

[jayfan]

According to the article, 7 classic teams have been revealed so far, with 5 more still to come.

The 7 so far:

1999-00 Toronto Raptors,
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers
2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers
2002-03 Dallas Mavericks
2007-08 Boston Celtics
2007-08 Houston Rockets
2003-04 Detroit Pistons



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[gasolina]

I like that more "modern" teams are available. Some of the teams, while good, are a bitch to play with current rules

[Dbrog]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon: :pimp:

Back to my days of Wallace and Wallace in the paint! One of my favorite ever teams to play in past 2k games. Think big ben was on the cover in 04 or 05 or something. So sick and hyped!

99' Spurs next?!

[Rake2204]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon: :pimp:

Back to my days of Wallace and Wallace in the paint! One of my favorite ever teams to play in past 2k games. Think big ben was on the cover in 04 or 05 or something. So sick and hyped!

99' Spurs next?!Yup, NBA 2K5. They had the gong after he scored and everything.

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[MP.Trey]

Sick. It'll be fun to play with the younger, more athletic Sheed on the 2000 Blazers, and then seeing how different his older, more polished counterpart will play on the 04 Pistons.

[West-Side]

According to the article, 7 classic teams have been revealed so far, with 5 more still to come.

The 7 so far:

1999-00 Toronto Raptors,
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers
2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers
2002-03 Dallas Mavericks
2007-08 Boston Celtics
2007-08 Houston Rockets
2003-04 Detroit Pistons



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I think I'm going to cry. :cry:
So getting a copy this year.

Shaquille and Kobe better be like 99 & 98 on that team; they steam rolled through the playoffs together.

[Rake2204]

Sick. It'll be fun to play with the younger, more athletic Sheed on the 2000 Blazers, and then seeing how different his older, more polished counterpart will play on the 04 Pistons.It'll be interesting to see how much the two versions differentiate because 2004 Sheed was still under 30 years old, so he wasn't quite as explosive, but he was still dunking on heads pretty frequently. It wasn't until the following year(s) that he really began to sink into slightly-more-groundbound-veteran mode.

[Shade8780]

Next five teams should be:

2003-04 T'Wolves
2004-05 Suns
2004-05 Spurs
2005-06 Heat
2008-09 Lakers

[riseagainst]

greatest defensive team of all time.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[ShawkFactory]

Hopefully they're worth using. 2k teams with no star power are almost always easy to defeat.
True that.

I don't know how fun they'd be to play with. There's a reason they have the early 90s Warriors and Hornets. They weren't great teams but the stars on them were fun.

[KG215]

Hopefully they're worth using. 2k teams with no star power are almost always easy to defeat.
I was gonna say something along these lines. The 2004 Pistons are a great team but I can definitely see them being a team that's not useful and doesn't play up to their real-life counterpart unless 2K slightly overrates some attributes for some of their players. It'll be nearly impossible for 2K to make the virtual '04 Pistons just kinda sorta close as devastating defensively as the real '04 Pistons.

[KG215]

I love most of the more modern teams they're adding but I really wish they could do whatever they need to get done to add the '77 Blazers.

[West-Side]

I disagree, I find playing NBA 2K on the highest difficulty, it is far easier to win games with a balanced team like the 04' Pistons.

Playing with a one/two superstars + mediocre role players is tougher, IMO.

[Rake2204]

True that.

I don't know how fun they'd be to play with. There's a reason they have the early 90s Warriors and Hornets. They weren't great teams but the stars on them were fun.I think it depends what a player is looking for. I don't mess with head-to-head online gaming so I'm not sure how the team would translate on that front (though I envision Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton being dangerous).

In standard play (offline or against non-insane online opponents), I can see them being pretty dangerous when used correctly. I used to make the 2004 Pistons myself and running Hamilton off of double screens really did work quite well. And Rasheed Wallace can be a huge contributor to a gamer who's savvy with the post game (not to mention he can extend beyond the arc).

That said, Tayshaun Prince has historically been an "okay" option but nothing great, and Ben Wallace is just about useless offensively. The bench can also be touch-and-go, as Lindsey Hunter and Mike James aren't go-to video game characters. It's kind of on Corliss Williamson and Mehmet Okur on that next unit.

[SugarHill]

I disagree, I find playing NBA 2K on the highest difficulty, it is far easier to win games with a balanced team like the 04' Pistons.

Playing with a one/two superstars + mediocre role players is tougher, IMO.
I find it easiest to dominate with a great big that can shoot from the post like Dirk and work from there or an unstoppable threat like LeBron and wait for the double in order to get open 3s. If there is neither, yikes. :(

[Fire Colangelo]

Haven't played online quick games for a while now (not since the release of my team anyways). This should make it interesting.

The 04 Pistons will probably be one of those teams that are better irl compared to in the game though. I can see the 08 Rockets or Raptors being very popular though.

[Mr Feeny]

That's sick.
Are the 2002 Kings and 2000 Blazers in it???

No NBA fans can ever not respect nor appreciate that 04' Piston.
They embodied everything that's right with basketball.

Strong team defense, cohesion, ball movement. They were just deadly. :bowdown:

And caused Kobe to shoot 38%fg on single coverage as T Prince ravaged him on defense:lol

[Dbrog]

I find it easiest to dominate with a great big that can shoot from the post like Dirk and work from there or an unstoppable threat like LeBron and wait for the double in order to get open 3s. If there is neither, yikes. :(

Have you forgotten how boss Sheed was in the post (especially in 2k)? Just as good as Dirk man...

Having a bunch of shooters and a defensive monster down low is game over in 2k. Beast and feast for days. I don't know where this "balanced Piston" dilemma is coming from :confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

so we get two versions of T-Mac and neither are of him in his prime.. what the actual fucc :facepalm :facepalm

[SHAQisGOAT]

:applause:

Loving some of those new teams. With the '83 76ers, Kareem back in the game and a team with Charles Barkley... shit would be epic.

Just hoping for a great gameplay.

[KG215]

so we get two versions of T-Mac and neither are of him in his prime.. what the actual fucc :facepalm :facepalm
Meh, just bump up his ratings a bit to make him closer to his prime self. That's what I end up doing every year with certain classic players who are past their prime or before their prime.

I think doing that, and playing with a prime-esque version of T-Mac and prime VC and a pretty "meh" supporting cast in MyCAREER or MyGM could be pretty fun.

[Kobe_6/8]

Haven't played online quick games for a while now (not since the release of my team anyways). This should make it interesting.

The 04 Pistons will probably be one of those teams that are better irl compared to in the game though. I can see the 08 Rockets or Raptors being very popular though.

You can't use classic teams in online quick games unless it's against a friend.

[Fire Colangelo]

You can't use classic teams in online quick games unless it's against a friend.

Lol nvm then.... I'll probably never use the team then unless i have over

[Bosnian Sajo]

wtf, why do they have the 08 Rockets?


Gonna be fun to play with that Pistons squad. Every player from that squad is retired except for Prince, Big Ben and Sheed 2 of my favorite players of all time. Shit was 12 years ago....damn. Damn time flys, I was a kid when Detroit won. **** you 2k for making me feel nostalgic and emotional.

[Showtime2001]

wtf, why do they have the 08 Rockets?
I think because of the 22 game win streak they had.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I think because of the 22 game win streak they had.

Now that I think about it, I believe it has more to do with Yao still being apart of the team. Trying to attract the Chinese market I guess, because why else would they pick this team over one of the run n gun Suns of the mid 00's?

[KembaWalker]

Now that I think about it, I believe it has more to do with Yao still being apart of the team. Trying to attract the Chinese market I guess, because why else would they pick this team over one of the run n gun Suns of the mid 00's?

They haven't picked the Rockets over them, they still have a few teams to announce, I'm expecting one of those Suns teams and 06 Heat

[Rake2204]

Now that I think about it, I believe it has more to do with Yao still being apart of the team. Trying to attract the Chinese market I guess, because why else would they pick this team over one of the run n gun Suns of the mid 00's?Yeah, I think the Yao and Tracy McGrady combo is what they were going for there. They have a little bit of history in 2K as being an unstoppable force (they never quite figured out how to limit the power of a guy who stood 7'6'' in the game). One would think they'd have gone at least one year earlier, when Yao actually finished out the season, but maybe it was easiest to build the '08 team with the players available.

And as Kemba said, there's still five more teams that have not yet been revealed, so the Rockets haven't been picked over the Suns yet, per se. With all the new clubs seemingly coming from the 2000's, and knowing Nash is in the game with the '03 Mavericks, it appears as though a mid-00's Suns team could have a good chance of making the cut, assuming all the necessary rights could be secured.

[Cold soul]

04 Pistons were beast such fun team to watch.

[Droid101]

**** the Pistons forever. That team ruined basketball for me for many years. So glad they were wrecked for the next 12 years after that.

Why yes, I'm a Laker fan, why do you ask?

/have no hate for the current Pistons
//actually like Brandon Jennings.
///hope they make the playoffs! Time heals all wounds.

[Akrazotile]

**** the Pistons forever. That team ruined basketball for me for many years. So glad they were wrecked for the next 12 years after that.

Why yes, I'm a Laker fan, why do you ask?

/have no hate for the current Pistons
//actually like Brandon Jennings.
///hope they make the playoffs! Time heals all wounds.



It is kinda interesting how their prominence basically started with an epic Kobe chokejob, and ended with a steamrolling at the hands of Lebron :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

It is kinda interesting how their prominence basically started with an epic Kobe chokejob, and ended with a steamrolling at the hands of Lebron :oldlol:

Their prominence ended after Wade steamrolled them in 2006 and Ben Wallace was gone that Summer.

[Kobe_6/8]

Their prominence ended after Wade steamrolled them in 2006 and Ben Wallace was gone that Summer.

Pistons made the Eastern Conference Finals in 2007 and 2008 while Wade kept being prominent.

[Rake2204]

Pistons made the Eastern Conference Finals in 2007 and 2008 while Wade kept being prominent.Yeah, I kind of thought the Pistons should have made the Finals in 2007; they blew a 2-0 conference finals lead to that Cavaliers team. But then again, LeBron James did some LeBron James things and stuff happened, so shoulda, coulda, woulda.

I thought the official end of their reign came a year later against Boston, back in the conference finals. Detroit stretched the series to six but I never quite had the feeling they could emerge victorious. Those super Celtics were just better, and I think the aging Pistons had grown content, particularly with a ring already to their names.

[guy]

Seems like all the new teams are from the 2000s. I'm guessing that they don't have the rights to guys like Barkley, Miller, or Webber or else those guys teams would be in it. My guess on the remaining 5:

05 Suns
05 Spurs
06 Heat
09 Lakers
12 Heat

[Droid101]

It is kinda interesting how their prominence basically started with an epic Kobe chokejob, and ended with a steamrolling at the hands of Lebron :oldlol:
Their prominence started with a salary dump trade for Rasheed Wallace (who was already salary dump traded to the Hawks earlier that year) and ended with, as has been stated upthread, Wade and/or the Celtics.

Nice try at trolling though starface.

[Wade's Rings]

Pistons made the Eastern Conference Finals in 2007 and 2008 while Wade kept being prominent.

I thought they should've made the Finals in 2007 but in 2008 they didn't stand a chance IMO to the Celtics. However losing Big Ben was huge.

[Wally450]

04 Pistons vs 08 Celtics.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1772373_o.gif

[Rake2204]

On a related classic Pistons note, the Jordan Rules will be in 2K16, amongst other old school adjustments (some highlights):


Jordan RULES – Yes, the infamous “Jordan Rules” are in the game. The entire progression on how they disrupted Jordan’s rhythm in the late 80’s is here. From where they forced him when he had the ball, to the change from Dumars to Rodman depending on success.

Scottie Pippen matching up with Magic Johnson- As you know this was the adjustment that changed the entire 91’ series.

Gary Payton on MJ in 96’ Finals.

Celtics adjustments to the Showtime Lakers.

http://www.operationsports.com/features/2323/nba-2k16-gameplay-blog-with-scott-ogallagher/

[Rake2204]

And now for the letdown: a stream revealed last night that the 2004 Pistons roster currently has just seven real players:

Chauncey Billups - 88
Ben Wallace - 87
Richard Hamilton - 86
Tayshaun Prince - 77
Elden Campbell - 70
Lindsey Hunter - 69
Darko Milicic - 69

So, yeah, that means no Rasheed Wallace, Mehmet Okur, Corliss Williamson, or Mike James.

On the plus side, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is back, Eric Snow has been added to the '01 Sixers (and '96 Sonics), Nick Van Exel is on with the '03 Mavs and '98 Lakers, Rick Fox is there, Steve Francis is on that 2008 Rockets team, and Isaiah Rider made the 2001 Lakers (I know those last two didn't even make the playoff rosters but it's cool to have their likenesses aboard).

[TheMarkMadsen]

And now for the letdown: a stream revealed last night that the 2004 Pistons roster currently has just seven real players:

Chauncey Billups - 88
Ben Wallace - 87
Richard Hamilton - 86
Tayshaun Prince - 77
Elden Campbell - 70
Lindsey Hunter - 69
Darko Milicic - 69

So, yeah, that means no Rasheed Wallace, Mehmet Okur, Corliss Williamson, or Mike James.

On the plus side, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is back, Eric Snow has been added to the '01 Sixers (and '96 Sonics), Nick Van Exel is on with the '03 Mavs and '98 Lakers, Rick Fox is there, Steve Francis is on that 2008 Rockets team, and Isaiah Rider made the 2001 Lakers (I know those last two didn't even make the playoff rosters but it's cool to have their likenesses aboard).


No Rasheed ?? :biggums: :biggums:

WTF was the point of even adding them if Rasheed wasn't on.. and how could they not get his rights when he was just in the game like 2 years ago..

[Natureland]

That also means no Sheed on the 2000 Blazers, either. :( But I just saw Sabonis got in, so that's cool.

[TheMarkMadsen]

this is really dumb, why add two teams that nobody was clamoring for if arguably the best player on each team isn't available (ok maybe not the best player but Sheed was huge for both these teams)

[Heavincent]

Yeah those teams might as well not be in the game without Sheed.

[Coach Eddie]

http://detroitsportsnation.com/detroit-nba/rake2204/2004-pistons-to-be-featured-as-classic-team-on-nba-2k16/42382/

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The best team that nobody will want to play with.

[ZMonkey11]

The best team that nobody will want to play with.

about 85% of games I play on 2k are Pistons teams. Sorry Coach Eddie.

[MEB2kDeez]

Damn, no Sheed? :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

KAreem, Nick, Francis, and Rider(ill edit him to 90s levels) are nice to have but no Sheed? Bullshit.....

[Cold soul]

04 Pistons vs 08 Celtics.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1772373_o.gif

Just imaging that matchup gives me goosebumps and chills. :coleman:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I think even on the easiest difficulty, this team would be hard to shut down a team under 60 points like they did in real life a handful of times :bowdown:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

And now for the letdown: a stream revealed last night that the 2004 Pistons roster currently has just seven real players:

Chauncey Billups - 88
Ben Wallace - 87
Richard Hamilton - 86
Tayshaun Prince - 77
Elden Campbell - 70
Lindsey Hunter - 69
Darko Milicic - 69

So, yeah, that means no Rasheed Wallace, Mehmet Okur, Corliss Williamson, or Mike James.

On the plus side, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is back, Eric Snow has been added to the '01 Sixers (and '96 Sonics), Nick Van Exel is on with the '03 Mavs and '98 Lakers, Rick Fox is there, Steve Francis is on that 2008 Rockets team, and Isaiah Rider made the 2001 Lakers (I know those last two didn't even make the playoff rosters but it's cool to have their likenesses aboard).

Without those 4 players, they don't become a classic team. Hopefully, 2K fixes this. Otherwise, I agree with the rankings. Rasheed's a 85-87 but will probably be that one player on the team that can drop a ton of points if used correctly- posting up etc instead of shooting 3s.

[G-train]

Without those 4 players, they don't become a classic team. Hopefully, 2K fixes this. Otherwise, I agree with the rankings. Rasheed's a 85-87 but will probably be that one player on the team that can drop a ton of points if used correctly- posting up etc instead of shooting 3s.

I'm pretty sure 2K would have gone to reasonable lengths to get Rasheed.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Anyone playing? That intro was dumb af. Thought I accidentally preordered Live.

[Kobe_6/8]

Anyone playing? That intro was dumb af. Thought I accidentally preordered Live.

Yeah I just did my first online match. Won with OKC in Golden State, Westbrook is great.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Spent 30 minutes on making my dude and he ended up looking like Robin Lopez :facepalm . The face scan is maybe better. Took me one try and I got 9000 plus obviously using artificial lighting because it's midnight. Tho my room gets pretty bright when I turn the lights on and I moved a lamp with the shade off next to me with my phone light shining behind.

Initially don't like the look of the menus, but it's more intuitive than last year which is great. Don't know why 2K always bombs the menu. Doesn't seem like they did this year, although I'm just messing with the settings right now. It's just ugly that bothers me. Whatever.

Guess I'll jump straight into mycareer.